My worry is that he is 38…

Make him a permanent DH if need be. Guy is good for the team.

Two years for $16-20 is going to be the market value for him. Didn’t he just say how much he LOVES this team and wants to return? So take the $16 then, Bobby.

My biggest fear is Bay becomes too expensive for Boston, and they then grab Abreu to play LF for two years.

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Maybe throw in some production based incentives that will raise it to 20

i hope he stays and he’s probably worth at least 18-20 mil, but it was the first offer. it’s negotiations. we’ll see if he continues being awesome in the ALCS and they bump it up a few mil.

And Abreu is a hell of a lot more useful than Burrell, even if he’s older. However, something like 2/20 makes me nervous, since it doesn’t leave a lot of room for Abreu to decline due to age. There’s no guarantee he’ll have two more years as good as this last one.

I don’t think Abreu is going to get much better than what the Angels are offering. There are a lot of OF/DH/1B types on the market, and some of them will go cheap. Can’t blame the guy for wanting to try the market though.

I don’t understand. Why would the Angels break their policy of waiting until the offseason to negotiate?

Oh well, thanks for the great 2009 season Bobby.

but i think he will fetch 2years at $20 mill. if he has a great ALCS and World Series his price would go up. on the other hand…..well there is no other hand because he is going to have a good ALCS and World Series.

Pay the man he has been nothing but positive

He’s getting old. Might be a big mistake to pay him $10 mil/ year.

But remember, Jon Heymoron wrote this article. You know, the same guy who wrote that an “anonymous scout” said that the Angels wouldn’t win a game against the Sox.

I wouldn’t trust him. Just wait and see, if Bobby’s not ready to sign then hes not ready to sign.

With Abreu turning down the offer for now. He has every right to negotiate for the best deal.

He will be 36 years old next year. His defense will only get worse, so I’d say around 2 years $15M-$18M is about right. Doesn’t hurt him to see if someone will give him a third year at that annual salary. Can always fall back on the Angels offer or something close to it at worst case.
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and probably a fair one. i don’t think it’s the years that are the problem (no way he’s getting more than 2 years ANYWHERE), it’s the money.

i’d go for a 2 year, $20MM deal, with incentives that could push it up another $1-2MM per year.

he could accept. Thats a solid deal for a guy his age.

2/$16MM is a very fair offer; add an option for a 3rd year at another $8MM, with a $2MM buyout, and everybody should be happy. If he gets old fast, Arte isn’t on the hook for too long. If Bobby continues to perform, he gets 3 years and $24MM. Not bad.

I’d like to keep him, but it’s not like Aybar and others will all of sudden forget to how to hit if he leaves. His influence will be felt long after he departs.

3 years $25 million but in the last year the angels have the option of making him a coach. Any takers?

Either 2 years 20 million, or 3 years 27 million? Offer him both and let him pick his preference.

The club has made it clear they do not negotiate during the season. Media making up a story to fill the space between games.

Plus the club has made a habit of making its best offer upfront & that doesn’t sound like its best offer.

I hope they did not insult him.

It seems strange that the Halos would give this kind of offer at this point in the offseason.

If you’re Bobby why would you give up Free Agency for an offer that is at best “fair.” If you’re Reagins, and you want to keep Bobby out of Free Agency, you are going to have to overpay. You would be overpaying him and in effect blowing him away with an offer that would induce him to avoid the uncertainties of free agency.

I also gotta laugh at all the fans who gripe that Bobby says he wants to stay with the Angels, so he should take this deal. Really???!! This could be the last contract he signs as a ballplayer, and you think he should take a lowball offer just because he likes California, likes his teammates and like the Angel style of ball. Give me a break. Which one of us, would forgo the opportunity to make 3-4 million dollars more for sentimental reasons?

In the end, Abreu will get 2 years at 10-12 million with incentives and a mutual option year.

What makes Abreu more valuable than Vlad is that the guy actually knows the strike zone. Vlad is used to hacking, and he will probably always be a hacker. The problem with this is that as Vlad gets older and his reflexes and body gets slower, he won’t be able to hit all of those balls out of the strike zone. Those are pitches that Abreu never tried to hit in the first place.

Where you will see a downward trend with Bobby is in the power numbers. Looking at his numbers you see a decline in his doubles and homers. That trend will continue, but he’ll still be a clutch hitter, albeit, one who hits more singles and walks more.

It’s fine to say, that the Angels shouldn’t overpay Abreu, but then who is your right fielder? Gary Matthews? Reggie Willits? Terry Evans? The Angels are not going to try to sign either Bay or Holliday. Both of those guys would cost far more money that they are willing to wrap up in Abreu. Moreover, both of those guys will receive love from NY and Boston, so it will be hard to compete with that kind of cash. When it comes down to it, we might have no other choice, but to moderately overpay for Abreu.

At this point, all of the Angel Free Agents want to test free agency. Lackey is likely gone since he has the most market value and someone is going to overpay for him. Moreover, the Angels picked up Kazmir with the understanding that he would be insurance in the event of Lackey’s departure. Figgins is also gone, since he’s a legit leadoff man and those guys rarely are on the market. Of the Angel free agents Abreu might be the one who the Angels have the best chance at retaining. The nightmare scenario is if the Angels retain none of their Free Agents. It’s a prospect that I don’t want to think about. Moreover, with the Angels in the ALCS, why not enjoy the moment and not think about the future. After all, the present is pretty awesome.

Regardless of the rumors truth or lack thereof, I think Reagins knows what he’s doing, and he hasn’t let me down so far. I’ll trust Tony to have a plan, whether Abreu stays or ultimately decides to leave.

and 22 mil is what he will get