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Angels Frozen in Place, Drop Game 1 to Yankees

Final Score in New York: Angels 1, Yankees 4

A night of sloppy fielding from the normally sharp Angels gifted the Yankees enough runs to take Game 1 of the 2009 ALCS. The Angels had the tying run on deck in the 9th, so it is not like they got dominated, in fact, the Yankees were pretty flat all night and a precision defensive outing would have yielded a win.

But just like in the 2002 and 2005 postseason, the Yankees took game 1 of the series form the Angels. John Lackey pitched fantastic, Jason Bulger and Matt Palmer each did the job of holding things in place, but CC Sabathia scattered hits far enough apart from each other to avoid any trouble.

It didn't look like the Angels when Erick Aybar and Chone Figgins looked at each other on a first inning popup instead of looking at the ball. The national broadcast hardly named them as it was so intent on stroking the Yankees. A FOX broadcast truck in the Yankee Stadium parking lot had gallons of lube at the ready should the game have gone into extra innings, but it wasn't necessary, as the Angels threatened but did not score off of Mariano Rivera.

The Angels got a RBI single from Kendry Morales in the 4th inning to score Vladimir Guerrero who had led off the frame with a double that almost cleared the plexiglass centerfield wall. It was that kind of night for the Angels ... a lot of invisible almosts that are now just whisps blowing around the L in the scorebook.

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Figgins gets the blame just for continuing to suck

despite that 1st inning gaffe falling squarely on the shoulders of Aybar.

Figgy needs to sit tomorrow after going 0-16 in the playoffs. Simply inexcusable.

by shiftyeyedgoat on Oct 16, 2009 8:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Guy is terrible

Good luck with that contract

by bruinbrah on Oct 16, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why, is the basketball season starting?

That’s the only time “big game” and “UCLA” should be used in the same sentence.

by shiftyeyedgoat on Oct 16, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

2009 Angels Season: Let's Do This For Nick

by trojanangelfan on Oct 16, 2009 9:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

GO BEARS!!!!!

:)

Let's win one for Adenhart #34
HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!!!!!

by moosemastr on Oct 16, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he called off Aybar...

I saw Figgy’s mouth moving and Aybar backing away.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 16, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why blame?

He’ll be raising the trophy with the rest of the team.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 16, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Figgins is to blame for everything..

Sure hes great during the regular season versus bad pitchers but in the playoffs…chokes! thats why he is never a true lead off hitter.

by ihatefiggins on Oct 16, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Why does everything BAD that happens to us in the Playoffs always include Figgins in the picture somehow??? Figgins is bad luck for us in the playoffs if you ask me. Who wants to bet he will never be benched and will continue to suck.

by ihatefiggins on Oct 16, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dislike

That there’s no third option to blame the offense.

by Branta on Oct 16, 2009 8:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Yankees

think their shit staff is getting outta this with a 1.0 era; they are dumber than ken rosenthal.

by bruinbrah on Oct 16, 2009 8:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Lots of fail

"Figgins' OBP is still over 40!" -Steve Physioc

by Figgi4life on Oct 16, 2009 8:20 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

There is nothing to laugh about

Saunders didn’t win 16 games and go to the all star game last year for no reason

by ryanfea on Oct 16, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just checked Mega Man's profile...

he’s simply a turd-dropper who will likely be banned.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 16, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're right

He won 16 games for being an average pitcher with a lucky BABIP

"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper

"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles

by Cheezombie on Oct 16, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

there's the word!

i was waiting to see how long it would take for someone to throw out “lucky”

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Oct 16, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's better to be lucky than good.

However, your wrong to imply that he isn’t good.

by ryanfea on Oct 16, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

4.6 ERA FTW!!!

"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper

"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles

by Cheezombie on Oct 16, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

most of that was due to arm troubles in the middle of the year

do some research, sweetheart.

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Oct 16, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

4.6 ERA! Gasp! How will we ever win!

AJ Burnett’s era is 4.04 which isn’t that much better. Burnett also led the leauge with walks allowed with 97 given up. Saunders also had an ERA of 3.41 last year and won his last 7 decisions this year.

by ryanfea on Oct 16, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that really the best you can do?

Pathetic

"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper

"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles

by Cheezombie on Oct 16, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

A classic example of the condescending douchebag, everyone!

Berates everything, accomplishes nothing!

You are the anthropomorphic definition of “useless”.

by shiftyeyedgoat on Oct 16, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

You brought nothing new here either, cheezie...

“Angels … lucky”

Same old shit. Go away. There’s a rock that is calling you back home. Crawl back under it.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 16, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

LMAO?

I think your ass already gets plenty of a workout without the laughter.

2009 Halos AL Western Division Champs:
"Don't worry bout a thing,
Cause every little thing gonna be all right!"

by Quad Fin Rider on Oct 17, 2009 5:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lackey...

shoulders a lot of the blame. Plenty to go around tonight.

by 4acesusaf on Oct 16, 2009 8:23 PM PDT reply actions  

yep ...

he should have run out there in-between Fig and Aybar to make that catch. Dang him.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 16, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lackey was

piss poor tonight. he was lucky he only got rung with 4

by bruinbrah on Oct 16, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. Seemed like he was behind on every batter.

However, only 1 or 2 ER, you can’t nail it on him.

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Oct 16, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lackey was awful in pitch conservation

and giving up chopper singles, but for hte most part, he stranded runners, got key outs and made quality pitches.

NO PART OF THIS GAME IS HIS FAULT.

If the three errors — and the Aybar/Figgy “hit” — are reversed, Lackey gives up 1 run, max and pitches later into the game.

He didn’t pitch well by WHIP or pitch count, but he pitched well enough to win when it’s not nearly snowing outside.

by shiftyeyedgoat on Oct 16, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

why does ken rosenthal sound like a computer program reading a book?

anyways, Figgi gets the blame.

I cant wait to see some new blood at 3rd next year while he fetches some ridonkulous contract and underproduces (hopefully for the yankees?)

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Oct 16, 2009 8:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Sabathia's was yawning...

…but it appeared the Angels were the tired ones. No offense, crappy defense.

(Yawn.)

by sothball on Oct 16, 2009 8:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Ay, Yoinks

Well fought. But you know what?

This is how I roll.

And I can do this anytime I want.

Nice scarf.

"Death to the opposition!" - Commander Worf, First Baseman: The Niners

by Zoe Necrosis on Oct 16, 2009 8:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Well IT CAN'T HAVE IT!!

"Death to the opposition!" - Commander Worf, First Baseman: The Niners

by Zoe Necrosis on Oct 16, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow...

i just put in Adventureland..and its set in 1987…and the first thing i noticed is how the hairstyles are not very 80s-ish.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Oct 16, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

That movie i supposed to be set in 87?

I mean, I didn’t see it or anything, but the trailers certainly didn’t indicate it was mean to be anything but up to date. Aesthetic fail.

"Death to the opposition!" - Commander Worf, First Baseman: The Niners

by Zoe Necrosis on Oct 16, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

neither did i.

standard modern 80s-redux movies…

actors wear striped shirts… post-production puts on a slight film grain… 80s soundtrack!!!!!!!

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Oct 16, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

CC

will not lose if figgins and abreu hit 1-2

unless he pitches 4 games, i’m not worried

That game reminded me of most of the angels’ recent playoff losses, bad D, bad hitting, and just a total no show in general.

Lackey wasn’t horrible, but giving up a run early against a guy of cc’s caliber is a deadly sin

by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 16, 2009 8:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Figgy Figgy Figgy

please get him on the bench…. Izzy can play 3rd just fine.. and seems to have a pulse with the bat in october. Defense was an all around fail tonight cant blame just one person in the field

#34 R.I.P.
Heavenly Offense

by BigBangRobbDawgg on Oct 16, 2009 8:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Figgins is INVISI-MAN

He’s the ghost of Playoff A-Rod past.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 16, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agreee!

There is no excuse for what 0-16?? for a lead off hitter Correct me if im wrong, the Lead-Off Hitter are the ones that are GOOD at getting on base and setting the table right???

by ihatefiggins on Oct 16, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Despite the double

Vladdy looked terrible at the plate.

Stay on the damn bag!!

by higdog on Oct 16, 2009 8:28 PM PDT reply actions  

He was late on every fastball

and looked especially horrible against rivera who was only throwing 91 and you know he is going to throw you a fastball.
no excuse to be late on that, not saying it’s easy to hit, but to be that late?
looked weird as he was late all night, despite the double on the slider

by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 16, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vlad

to be honest i didnt expect much from Vlad..Never did..he just gets lucky on 1st swings if the pitcher makes a mistake.

by ihatefiggins on Oct 16, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

How much longer do you continue to play Figgy?

I say be decisive and bench him ASAP, give Mice T. a shot; he’s earned it.

Let the Halo power flow...all night long!

by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Oct 16, 2009 8:32 PM PDT reply actions  

of course he will... why wouldnt he...

he’s gonna “turn the page”. too bad the pages are glued together

#34 R.I.P.
Heavenly Offense

by BigBangRobbDawgg on Oct 16, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but...

…take away the 2 gift runs, and we still lose 2-1. Offense just didn’t show up. Figgy…where art thou?

by sothball on Oct 16, 2009 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Figgins

Dude, seriously. Get on base once in a while.

by LA Seitz on Oct 16, 2009 8:33 PM PDT reply actions  

He's waiting for tomorrow

(at least that’s probably what he’s telling himself every day he goes o-fer)

O-fer Figgins
or
Fail-gins…

those are my new nicknames for the Fig-ster.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 16, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Figgins also clear as day said

“AYBAR” on that pop up … he was the only one who said anything, which obviously was too complex for aybar to actually comprehend given the ear muffs

by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 16, 2009 8:35 PM PDT reply actions  

I saw that too

Why didn’t he say something that didn’t sound so much like “I got it?”

What we've got can't be bought

by rspencer on Oct 16, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Ay-bar" or "EYE-got it?"

or “MINE” I’d like to hear the post-game comments, as I think that Figgy called for it, yet you think that he told Aybar to get it.

Although, in my limited playing time, the only time you yell is when you are calling to GET THE BALL, not let someone else get it.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 16, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

The shortstop has makes the call...

…and Scioscia reminded Aybar of that at the end of the inning.

by sothball on Oct 16, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

When you put it that way. . .

it makes perfect sense. I guess I was just trying to make the most possible sense out of the situation. If Figgy did call for the ball, and then did nothing but stare stupidly at Aybar, that was failure of massive proportions.

What we've got can't be bought

by rspencer on Oct 16, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

QUESTION:

Have the Yankees actually earned a victory in this postseason? The snippets I caught from the Twins series indicate that the Twins’ mistakes led to giving the series to the Yankees. I could be wrong, though.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 16, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Again...

Even without the defensive mistake the Yankees have two runs. You can blame the D if you want, but really it was a lack of offense that was the major issue.

by GMan83201 on Oct 16, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Disagree on one point

Flawless defense wouldn’t have made the difference. The Yanks had 2 runs that scored without errors/that “single” that dropped between FIggins and Aybar. It would have been 2-1.

by GMan83201 on Oct 16, 2009 8:37 PM PDT reply actions  

who knows the score if no errors

different mindset after making them. and who cares we lost…move on. game 2 is tomorrow.

by figgifig on Oct 16, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep...

the game would have proceeded EXACTLY the same had Aybar made that catch.

NOT!

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 16, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I conted that Lackey would have had a 1-run CG had Aybar made that catch

Instead, the hot-headed Texan melted down mentally and didn’t make it. How do you like that? ;)

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 16, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

You could see on some of the replays how ticked off Lackey was with his teammates. Then he made a throwing error himself. I agree—mental meltdown.

by hbhalofan on Oct 16, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

C'mon ... you've been watching Lackey for a while, just like me...

I know that if something happens behind him, he gets visibly shaken (he was shown SCREAMING like a douche toward Aybar and Figgy after they let that ball drop) and then he melts down shortly thereafter. Granted, he did fairly well considering, but I think he would have done a lot better had that play been made.

Yes, this is purely my stupid opinion.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 16, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nono, I totally agree with you that Lackey would've gone farther into the game,

But I’m saying, that play notwithstanding, he was NOT looking good early on (see my first batter analysis of Lackey, after an 8 pitch single to Jeter), and continued to struggle, BUT he was getting out of jams.

The defense wasn’t doing their jobs, but to say Lackey had “1 ER, CG” stuff tonight is most likely not true.

by shiftyeyedgoat on Oct 16, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok.

gotcha.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 16, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lackey Needs to Concentrate on His Pitching

The trouble with Lackey is he acts like a complete new pitcher with no experience whatsoever. Even if the outfielders made some mistakes, he pretty much put himself in the hole and no one else should be blamed for it. How many pitches did he throw in the early innings? While, Sabathia was coasting and throwing few pitches, he was struggling to come out of innings. His pitch count was so high, he was done pretty much by the first couple of innings. Worst of all, he was a big cry baby over the dropped ball by Figgins/Aybar! A good pitcher concentrates on his pitches which he has control over!

by JimmyBlue on Oct 17, 2009 4:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well...

the Yanks would have been up 1-0 anyway, and the Angels only scored one run. You can argue that pop-up affected the offense but I doubt it. The theme of the game still was that CC was dominant and shut down the Angels offense.

Depending on which AJ Burnett shows up there could be a good chance for LA to steal one. I sorta figured the Yanks would take this one and that the real chance to swing the series was game 2.

I’m a Yankee fan, by the way. I do my best to be respectful and just offer an alternative view. Let me know if I get offensive.

by GMan83201 on Oct 16, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

I personally didn’t go to “Over the Monster” after the three Angel victories. Kind of a sensitive timing thing, with the wounds all fresh, you know?

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 16, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess the point I'm trying to drive across

is that yeah, CC looks like the real deal. However, at worst you see him three times. There’s a good chance to steal one tomorrow if Bad AJ shows up, and a split in the first two games puts all the pressure on the Yanks.

by GMan83201 on Oct 16, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you hear Scioscia's quote yesterday?

It was funny and I paraphrase:

“if there are enough rain delays, we will see CC Sabathia seven times!”

Lol!

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 16, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope not.

I bet that after seeing him 7 times you guys could probably figure him out.

by GMan83201 on Oct 16, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow.

Unnecessary. I don’t think I’m being rude or anything.

by GMan83201 on Oct 16, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

That one belongs after Mega Man's quote...

however, he will be banned sometime in the next 24 hours, I think.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 16, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he went by "Static Cling"

’Til he got banned. He probably about 13 y/o.

"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett 

—Hasta la victoria siempre ¡Patria o Muerte! –Ernesto "Che" Guevara

by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 16, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Two for Three so far,

but the most important is the one where CC gets the edge.

I’m blaming snowy conditions and New York sucking in general, but all-in-all, the game was only worrisome because of how bad the ANGELS were, not how GOOD the Yanks were.

by shiftyeyedgoat on Oct 16, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't count

on there being very many more errors. But yeah, I don’t mean to be harsh but that was not a good showing. I hope the Yanks are aware that this was sort of a fluke.

by GMan83201 on Oct 16, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate that guy.

Gives us Yanks fans a bad name. Some of us aren’t D-bags.

by GMan83201 on Oct 16, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can handle respectful disagreement...

..it’s actually healthy. Thanks for being the anti-douche.

by sothball on Oct 16, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually prefer it on the opponent's page

a lot of the time. The post-game celebrations over at pinstripe can get over the top.

by GMan83201 on Oct 16, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Explanation:

Yankees fan: 3rd generation. I was raised one. It’s hereditary.

Blazers fan: Portland born and bred. Love living in the Pacific Northwest.

Packers fan: my initials are “GB.” When I was 8 I watched football with my dad and saw “GB” in a little box score. I decided at that point they were my favorite team and see no reason to go back.

by GMan83201 on Oct 16, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yuck to all three.

I don’t know how you can even count the Portland Jail-blazers as a sports franchise.

by shiftyeyedgoat on Oct 16, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

The real reason:

when I was in kindergarten I met Buck Williams. To this day he is still my favorite all-time player. The next week my dad took me to a game to reward me for good behavior in school (I was not very often well-behaved), and I’ve been hooked ever since.

BTW, I won’t be one of those morons that gets in a fight over Lakers vs. Blazers. I’m just happy they aren’t the Jail Blazers anymore and actually have a watchable and likable team.

by GMan83201 on Oct 16, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

all the old players 2

drexler, duckworth rip, porter, cliff robinson, ainge…not sure if u remember the glasses @ dairy queen.

by figgifig on Oct 16, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brandon Roy is nasty.

And I feel Oden finally living up to some of his expectations this season. Let’s hope McMillan can keep the back court happy.

"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt

by Daniel52 on Oct 16, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lot's of upside to my team

But I think a lot of Portland fans need to keep in mind their ceiling is basically where the Lakers are now: defending champs.

by GMan83201 on Oct 16, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get a lot of contact with the Portland fan base living in MA...

… but I’m heading up to Boston when the Blazers come to town in January.

"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt

by Daniel52 on Oct 16, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lackey Sucked!

Not to absolve the fielding errors but, John Lackey sucked which is a big part of the reason that the Angels lost. In the playoffs, pitching counts more than ever. Remember NY has a lot of good hitters. How are the Angels going to beat them without holding their batters down? We beat Boston because we held their batters down. The Yanks did a better job holding our batters down in the first game. Saunders better bring his A game tomorrow.

by JimmyBlue on Oct 16, 2009 8:45 PM PDT reply actions  

keep in mind the yankees are a much better team offensively than the red sox

and those errors by the outfielders didnt help….

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 16, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

whenever I read your name

I visually picture shaq shooting a three…and actually making it for some reason.

by figgifig on Oct 16, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did he ever make one?

That guy has the worst release I have ever seen. No rotation. I like a Jamaal Wilkes or a Mitch Richmond shot where the ball is rotating perfectly off their fingertips. Textbook shooters.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 16, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

shaq has drained one 3-pointer in his entire career

it was in 1996

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 16, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHyockvy6kY

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 16, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

awesome

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 16, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's old now

i don’t think he can do much for the cavs…but i guess the media does.

by figgifig on Oct 16, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

me too

hes too old and injury prone
he was a stud with the lakers
but alot of the stuff hes said about the team after he left
left a bad mark…

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 16, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

It boils down to pitching

Whoever pitches better wins, plain and simple. Today was the Yanks day. Tomorrow, it could be the Angels. Part of the Angels problem is their pitchers choke and get nervous in the post season. I thought when they beat Boston in the last playoff series, they got the jitters out but, apparently, not! The best pitchers will find a way to win especially in the post season. This is a seven game series so, anything is still possible. Hopefully, the pitchers do their job tomorrow. The Angels cannot afford to fall behind 2-0. Let us make it 1-1.

by JimmyBlue on Oct 16, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yankees still win 2-1...

… if you’d like to bend reality and magically removed the runs scored due to Angel errors.

"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt

by Daniel52 on Oct 16, 2009 8:49 PM PDT reply actions  

See the link HERE for my response, since your scroll button is broken.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 16, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

:)

Good one!

It’s a bar, isn’t it. I can’t get beer there, so I guess I went with button. ;P

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 16, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I apologize for not following you personally on this thread.

Don’t start a hothead in the Bronx then.

"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt

by Daniel52 on Oct 16, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be terribly surprised...

… I don’t even know if I want Figgins anymore either :-(

"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt

by Daniel52 on Oct 16, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it Troll Day?

I left my stale bread crumbs at home…

"Death to the opposition!" - Commander Worf, First Baseman: The Niners

by Zoe Necrosis on Oct 16, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

;-D

"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt

by Daniel52 on Oct 16, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too bad

they taste like white-trash croutons.

by GMan83201 on Oct 16, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mmmmm

Croutons…

"Death to the opposition!" - Commander Worf, First Baseman: The Niners

by Zoe Necrosis on Oct 16, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope somebody throws some chairs in the clubhouse tonight

That was a poor team effort all the way around!

Figgy can kiss my ass. If he doesn’t start hitting this postseason, then it’s time to move on at 3rd base. He NEVER hits well in October. It’s bad!

RIP Nick. We will miss you!

by KingF15h on Oct 16, 2009 9:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Torii and Lackey are the team leaders

and they both made errors. Maybe Mickey Flatcher needs to do something.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 16, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those were completely unrelated statements,

but both of them true.

The leaders lost us the game, and Mickey Hatcher needs to calm his Hackers down and SIT ON A FUCKING PITCH.

by shiftyeyedgoat on Oct 16, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Figgy sits on all 3 pitches.

This isnt about mickey hatcher..this is about grown ass professional athletes playing like horeshit against CC.

What the hell is hatcher gonna do in a week?

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Oct 16, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

easy there...

while i agree with your points, I just was asking hatcher to throw some chairs and say “WTF is wrong with you guys???” Hopefully to get those limp carcasses to come back to life.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 16, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh i agree, mickey should pull some old-man rage on the players...

my semi-drunken post wastn directed at you..or anyone for that matter..just frustrating..and blaming the umps, blaming mickey, blaming ugly yankee fans…it gets on my nerve when you have guys like figgi go out there and act like they dont know what baseball is.

i’ll forget all of this if figgy goes 4-4 tomorrow and the angels win. Short term memory is great.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Oct 16, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

speaking of limp carcasses...

our Rams are getting their first win Sunday, so that’s something to look forward to

RIP Nick. We will miss you!

by KingF15h on Oct 16, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's my biggest problem with Figgy

It’s like he’s just sitting there waiting for them to walk him. He hardly ever swings the fucking bat!

As much as I like Bobby, he did the very same thing tonight. When it’s close with two strikes you gotta protect the plate guys!

RIP Nick. We will miss you!

by KingF15h on Oct 16, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES!

RIP Nick Adenhart.

"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5

by Clutch on Oct 16, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hope Scioscia yells at the Halos tonight--That always seems to work

RIP Nick Adenhart.

"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5

by Clutch on Oct 16, 2009 9:33 PM PDT reply actions  

tough love - like it

Who where those guys that showed up tonight in Angel uniforms?

Who goofed? I've got to know.

by hittheg on Oct 17, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Remember 2002, baby! Down 0-1 in every series and still won it!

And remember who you’re doing it for, Angels boys! ADENHART!!!!

RIP Nick Adenhart.

"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5

by Clutch on Oct 16, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Play the Halos off, Keyboard Cat!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J—-aiyznGQ

RIP Nick Adenhart.

"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5

by Clutch on Oct 16, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions  

'Night all!

“Turn the Page”—Tomorrow’s another day!

RIP Nick Adenhart.

"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5

by Clutch on Oct 16, 2009 9:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Game 2

I feel good about the angels chances in game 2. Joe is gonna be as fresh as ever and burnett is more vulnerable at this point in his career as he ever has been. Halos just need to make the most of each pitch and get some baserunners. I have to laugh that “most faithful fans in baseball” couldn’t even come close to selling out there stadium in an ALCS game. 95% filled at Yankee stadium I’m sorry, that’s pathetic. Compared to our last home game which was 99.9% filled. Angels win game 2 5-4, pray for some sunshine!

by Broncangelus1 on Oct 16, 2009 9:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Not trolling here

but just saying, they did sell out. 49,000 plus is selling out. The Yankees led the majors in attendance this season. And thats with those insane prices, and the recession. That sounds pretty “faithful” to me.

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 17, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah if you want to call 2500 open seats a sell out

I’m sorry but thats not a sellout. And using the “high priced” seats and the “recession” as an excuse, thats ridiculous, its the freakin championship series. Last I checked theres about 20 million people in NY city, we’ve got about 3 million here in orange county and we had no problem leaving barely 10 seats open at our stadium. And also, no the Yankees didn’t lead the lead league in attendance, the dodgers did.

by Broncangelus1 on Oct 17, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I meant overall

not at home. and the home was pretty close. The reason the Yankees did not lead the majors in attendance at home was the insane prices, the smaller stadium, and the recession. The Yankees couldn’t have predicted that the economy would crash, and the economy completely crashed after the Yankees set their prices. And they couldn’t change them, because some people had already bought them. The prices will be reset next year, and they will start selling out every game again.

And again, it was a sellout today. 49000 plus is a sellout. The seats were filled. It was the standing room tickets that weren’t all sold. And they don’t count toward the actual tickets (don’t know why, but they don’t).

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 17, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

what rock are you living under

lol at overall.

and the recession has been going on for some time.

and of course they would only sell out after getting a win under them.

by RedAces on Oct 17, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lots of FAIL today

hopefully we won’t see that tomorrow

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, Marquis Cooper, Steve McNair, and Frank Grimes, or Grimey, as he liked to be called.
SCREW BOSTON.

by JoseGuillenSux on Oct 16, 2009 9:47 PM PDT reply actions  

nobody freak out

it’s one game. this series is just starting.
yeah, we looked bad, but we’ll bounce back.

i say we win tomorrow, take games 3 & 5 in Anaheim, and win it in 6.

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Oct 16, 2009 10:00 PM PDT reply actions  

What worries me...

…is that the Yankee offense didn’t do much except hit singles. We will definitely bounce back (aka “turn the page”) but will they not also hit better? And is Saunders well-rested or well-rusted at this point?

by BigSnyan on Oct 16, 2009 10:04 PM PDT reply actions  

3 weeks of off-time?

In a hitter’s paradise against a team that will only slump for so long? What could possibly go wrong??

by shiftyeyedgoat on Oct 16, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hopefully nothing!

Let’s see how it goes!

RIP Nick Adenhart.

"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5

by Clutch on Oct 16, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

do you think CC’s fat helped him keep warm up there?

by FirstTwoThird on Oct 16, 2009 10:37 PM PDT reply actions  

So I just finished watching the game off my DVR

Questions I have.

Did Mathis even watch how the Angels hit Papelbum in the playoffs???? He has a better fastball than Lackey but when that’s all you’re thowing any Major League team can hit it. He started the game off only throwing 4 seam and 2 seam fastballs. It was inane and as a result Jeter and Damon got on to start the game. Once he started mixing in curves he was much better.

Did Mathis notice how A-Rod tried to take him out at the plate???? Because he was practically bending over when Tex was standing on the first base line waiting to tag him out. Fuck his shit up Mathis don’t just let him tag you, that’s BS, you have all the momentum and he’s standing there like a sitting duck, lower your shoulder and put him on the ground.

How apparent does it have to be that Figgins sucks in the playoffs to actually get Maicer and Kendrick in the lineup?

by MH252525 on Oct 16, 2009 10:53 PM PDT reply actions  

You're talking about a 15 AB sample size

Holy crap, Figgins got on base more than any other player in the regular season. Let him do his thing.

I feel the need, the need...for speed!

by Gorbachav5 on Oct 16, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea I'd agree but

the Angels are going to be facing lefties a ton this series which Maicer has shown in a ton more than 15 abs that he hits better than Figgy.

by MH252525 on Oct 16, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

figgins has hit for shit all year long against lefties

in his playoff career, he has habitually been horrible at the plate and shaky in the field.

he has a history of sucking, and it shines in his stat line in the post season.

in the same way ppl say some guys are clutch, I will say figgins sucks in fucking october.

18/103, .175 average
33 k’s, 3 walks
FOR A LEADOFF HITTER WHO PLAYS IN A POWER HITTING POSITION.

He’s hitting .237 this year against lefties, including his 0/8 against lefties this postseason.

by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 16, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

this

hey where did you get those stats. I was using baseball referrence.com but noticed it only had him at 99 at bats?

But this is a huge sample size and if not do we give him another decade to prove himself?

by RedAces on Oct 16, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

my guess is they havent updated for tonight's 0/4

i just added his numbers up by checking the game log … maybe i miss counted too?

by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 16, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

no i think your right.

Well at least closer than they are. yeah it is not showing tonights updates yet. But this is a serious point. How long are we gonna wait around. I was thinking this before the post season started and am sick of it at this point. Sosh is a patient man but when is enough?

by RedAces on Oct 16, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

The sample size is much greater than 15AB...

In 103 postseason at-bats, figgy is a HORRIBLE 175 batting average and a 206 OBP. WOOF! Sit his ass DOWN.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 17, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Figgins just suck period...

I never liked figgins to be honest..He only hits well against badd pitching. When playoffs comes around against good pitching hes no where to be found on base. A little guy like him will just get over powered, because opposing pitchers know he cant hit a home run. So thats why we will fail unless who find a solution quick…Think of his past post season efforts? I guess Figgins never improved much.

by ihatefiggins on Oct 16, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

you've NEVER liked figgie?

…oh wait…just read your sig
nevermind

Who goofed? I've got to know.

by hittheg on Oct 17, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gallons of lube at the ready?

Jeez, Rev, give it a rest. Not everything is a slight at the Angels or worship of the Yankees/Red Sox. And even if it is, what the hell does it matter? Isn’t the actual baseball game a heck of a lot more interesting?

I feel the need, the need...for speed!

by Gorbachav5 on Oct 16, 2009 10:57 PM PDT reply actions  

not tonight it wasn’t….

by firebird81 on Oct 16, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the hell does it matter?

I had to listen to them suck Yankee cock for 3 hours. I’m gonna mention it.

by Rev Halofan on Oct 16, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

wonder if their hands had blisters and friction burns?

but then.. that’s what the lube is for right? ;)

Just another Halo victory

by HalosFanInNorCal on Oct 17, 2009 6:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

no its not at all...

I had to mute the TV from the 4th inning on…I couldnt listen to that shit anymore. terrible.

by dr-awkward on Oct 17, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

What a stinker

Get ’em tomorrow, I guess. Weather permitting.

By the way, did anyone notice that this was just the second game ever at the New Yankee Bandbox without a home run?

by Suboptimal on Oct 16, 2009 10:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Figgins = automatic out

figgins, vlad, mathis/napoli pretty much automatic outs..which is pretty sad. they need to stop listening to mickey mouse hatcher and learn to hit.

by ihatefiggins on Oct 16, 2009 11:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Vlad hit a double that was nearly a homerun.

by firebird81 on Oct 16, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

the double was cool

but i think we all saw how horrible he was when thrown fastballs.
something is wrong when he is as late as mathis is when swinging at a 91 mph fastball.

they just have to beat everyone other than cc, which frankly, doesn’t seem like that hard of a feat.
Playoff strike zones will doom Burnett.
Keep the yanks in the ballpark, and you can beat them.
Game 2 is huge, as Saunders was #2 in homers allowed in the AL, so he is mistake prone, and we see how he enjoys getting into jams, let’s hope his mistakes occur w/ nobody on base.

by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 16, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

i agree that he is underperforming

And keeping his eye on the ball when he is swinging might help. But he is not the problem.

by RedAces on Oct 16, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

did no one else see this?

Watch A-roid durring the play at the plate.

After the intitial contact, which was fine, that prick smacks Mathis in the face with his right hand and tries to hold his head down. Time to go native on him – a little headhunting for that asshole.

I thought this would be the main theme of this thread. I just got here after DVR and daughter’s weekend computer-time. If this has been discussed elsewhere please enlighten me.

Who goofed? I've got to know.

by hittheg on Oct 16, 2009 11:57 PM PDT reply actions  

didnt see it

surprised he didn’t slap though

by RedAces on Oct 17, 2009 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

i saw it

Most of the fans where I was saw it. We all know alex is a dirty and tained player too. We also thought that we were watching a yankee’s home telecast on fox. Both of the commetators were just talking non-stop about how good the yankees are.

by ihatefiggins on Oct 17, 2009 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

I saw it too! And I kept yelling about it everytime they showed the replay! Add it to the other things he’s been caught doing. What a scumbag. Hope he gets knocked on his ass for it.

by NJinHB on Oct 17, 2009 2:37 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

the play at the plate

but also looking at how he hit Mathis, he should definitely be glad that A-Rod hit him like a little girl. He tried throwing his arms at him…. if he leads with his shoulder like Erstad did in Atlanta then Jeff would have been in a world of hurt.

by MH252525 on Oct 17, 2009 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't see anything

I’m not being naive because Im a Yankees fan, but I don’t honestly think he did anything wrong. I saw him run over Mathis, flip over him (which is a result of running over him), and then go back over and slam his hand on home plate in anger. I didn’t see him touch Mathis intentionally trying to hurt him. If he did, wouldn’t you think Mathis would have noticed? Wouldn’t you think the umps would have noticed? There would have been words exchanged and possibly a bench clearing brawl. I don’t think anything happened intentionally

Give the guy a break. He’s had a great season and he’s a different person this year. If any other player did that you’d say it was some accident. Why do some people feel the need to bash Alex Rodriguez any chance they get?

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 17, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

A-Rod / changed man = Naive

And we bash cause he is and always will be a lil b****.

by RedAces on Oct 17, 2009 10:25 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Even though I found a bunch of Angels Fans in Chicago

The Halos didn’t live up to the billing. The offense better show up for Game 2. A split would be very satisfying :)

2009 Angels Season: Let's Do This For Nick

by trojanangelfan on Oct 17, 2009 12:04 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

we better show up tomorrow

it was a poor team effort from the start.
Figgins and Abreu need to swing the bat. WTF??

Angels 2009 WS Champs

by dan73962 on Oct 17, 2009 12:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Figgins Post Season Stats Starting from 2004

From 2004-Present with 103 At Bats including todays performance, He only managed to produce18 Hits, with only 11 runs scored and 33 strike outs. For a horrible post season batting average of .182 (baseball-reference.c@m). More reason to bench him.

by ihatefiggins on Oct 17, 2009 12:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Hhii

I’m gay I want to have sex with men and sodomize them

by Funke5ive on Oct 17, 2009 2:13 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Sorry fellas

This is the result of leaving your iphone open to a senior at servite…wanting to be a astro physics major in the airforce. Please feel free to email his parents @ imfunketoo@aol.com & dukebuddy@aol.com

He thinks this is hilarious.

by Funke5ive on Oct 17, 2009 2:36 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

copied the text

sent it to both parents (aol? still? really?)
do you have the e-mail for the airforce academy in CO?

Who goofed? I've got to know.

by hittheg on Oct 17, 2009 5:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

The entire shitty offense

with the exception of Morales (big surprise).

Still, I have to vote for Figgy for just about every reason listed above. He sucks right now and the Angels are giving every douche bag at ESPN reason to lube each other up in celebration for picking the Yankees.

We’re playing for so much more than just the ALCS. We’re playing to shut up every band wagon fan in Southern California, every east coast biased motherfucker at Fox and ESPN and Adenhart (who probably should have come first on my list).

The only magic number now is #34

by Teixeira Who? on Oct 17, 2009 4:06 AM PDT reply actions  

But we're not playing to shut Adenhart up...

Might want to clarify that there?

RIP Nick Adenhart.

"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5

by Clutch on Oct 17, 2009 4:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Out of Curiosity

What is the village of Anaheim’s relation to Los Angeles, anyway? Just wondering because, outside of the Disney bubble, your team’s name makes very little sense to the world. I just call you people “Anaheim.” Is this alright?

The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim of California of United States of North America of Western hemisphere of planet Earth of Solar System of Milky Way Galaxy of universe of ?.

by Solomon96 on Oct 17, 2009 8:35 AM PDT reply actions  

seriously?

look, we all know, alright. these zingers are getting out of control. If i had a nickel for every time some troll has posted that last sentence on here, I might be able to afford a ticket at Yankee Stadium. Please come up with new material before I blow my brains out.

by dr-awkward on Oct 17, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Solomon

Thank you for being the stereotypical New Yorker with all the hate in your profile. (It’s worth noting that The Angels began in Los Angeles, so it can be seen as a nod to our past. Do your research.) Regardless, I think I can speak for the majority of Angels fans when I say that we first hated the name until we saw how much it pissed every obnoxious fan off (i.e. Yankees and Dodgers). Now we love it for that reason alone (at least I sure as hell do).

I hope you’re not a Jets or Giants fan…

The only magic number now is #34

by Teixeira Who? on Oct 17, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just reread your profile

You are indeed a New York (New Jersey) Giants fan.

Classic.

The only magic number now is #34

by Teixeira Who? on Oct 17, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

and by the way...

what do you mean “you people”?

by dr-awkward on Oct 17, 2009 8:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Figgs particle

said to unify all of Angels’ energy. It’s playoff existence is purely theoretical, invisible and existing in another dimension, when and if exists it disappears in a flash.

by Angelitos on Oct 17, 2009 9:07 AM PDT reply actions  

nice!

where does the figgs particle live on the periodic table?

Just another Halo victory

by HalosFanInNorCal on Oct 17, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

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