Mariano Rivera caught doctoring the ball ALCS game 3, 10th inning
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 19, 2009 11:21 PM PDT
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PrintAfter his last warmup pitch, Mariano Rivera walks towards the back of the mound, looks at 2nd base area, then 3rd base area, and then down at the ball and spits directly onto the ball as Fox quickly cuts to a shot of Mike Scioscia. About 15 seconds later he delivers his first pitch to Aybar, for a called strike on the corner.
checks 2nd base
coast is clear, i want to spit on you
hall of fame spit, makes the cutter filthier than originally thought
spit landing on the ball, some hand, and the innocent ground (you can see a little halo on top of the ball as the spit connects
spit landing, as fox realizes what it is broadcasting and quickly cuts to scioscia (can still see the spit halo on top of the ball)
mike scioscia ... and the spit halo on top of the ball
look at that spit aided cut action, the unhittable mariano rivera.
and the video on youtube (not mine)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KihPKUZni8Y
You can see larger sized screen grabs on my flickr ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/donikowski/4028009753/in/set-72157622623946248/
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The "Spit Halo" is Soth's New Era logo on the sleeve.
That’s what I thought at first too though.
Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.
That "halo on top of the ball"
is not a halo on top of the ball. It is the manufacturer’s logo on Sosh’s sleeve as the image is fading to Sosh in the dugout.
You too can be a baseball media analyst! Just don't allow your need to be wrong in public to get in the way of your ignorance.
Someone with uber frame-by-frame skilletz needs to figure out where the spit goes
"Figgins' OBP is still over 40!" -Steve Physioc
by Figgi4life on Oct 19, 2009 11:28 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
well goddammit
fox is killin me
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 19, 2009 11:29 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I think just the straight line of spit
cascading into 5 different directions indicates it, at the very least, hit his hand.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 19, 2009 11:30 PM PDT reply actions
Why is this not being sent to Lyle Spencer, the LA Times, the OC Register, commented on effing Torii Hunter's blog, etc.?
Or is it? If so, good on you. If not, send, send, send!!
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
just emailed the sports staff at latimes and ocregister
other than whicker
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 20, 2009 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
QGS, you are the Abraham Zapruder of Halos Heaven.
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by 44FAN on Oct 19, 2009 11:53 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The saliva is going back and to the left
"Death to the opposition!" - Commander Worf, First Baseman: The Niners
by Zoe Necrosis on Oct 20, 2009 5:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Uhh that looks pretty conclusive to me
How has he not been spotted doing this before??
It is at least good enough to warrant investigation.
FOX has to have the rest of that original camera angle (the fade is done in the truck).
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by matthiasstephan on Oct 20, 2009 8:05 AM PDT reply actions
I am pretty sure
that he is just spitting on the ground.
Listen. The pitcher is good. It’s not a spitball. He’s good at what he does.
In response to RubixsQube
From the frame “coast is clear” to the fade, Mariano is staring right at the ball. If his intent was to spit on the ground he would be looking at the ground where he intended to spit — this is what people do. Just as our heads will turn in the direction we intend to look, our eyes would focus on where we were spitting. If Rivera were just “spitting on the ground” as you say, he wouldn’t have been staring at the ball, AND holding the ball up, raised as if it were a target.
YES, Rivera is good at what he does,but a SPIT BALL makes him better. Just as roids make Bonds or A-Rod better than they already are.
OC Register.com carrying the story!
Sam Miller has the video up on the sports page
by SocalAngelFaninOC on Oct 20, 2009 8:24 AM PDT reply actions
Sam Miller link
This team is our extended family, That's why we love them no matter what the record, no matter what the score.
by halofan4life on Oct 20, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
First of all,
There’s no splatter. The stuff that looks like splatter in the freeze frames is composed of the white rings on Mikes shirt and the unchanged vector of spit passing by Rivera’s hand.
The rest of the baseball world thinks this is giving Halos Heaven a bad name.
the rest of the world can FUCK OFF
"In every adversity there lies the seed of an equivalent advantage. In every defeat is a lesson showing you how to win the victory next time." (Robert Collier)
by norcaliangelsfan on Oct 20, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions
It doesn't need to splatter he wans't throwing a cup of water at the ball
He shot spit right at the ball, if he missed it was an accedent. Splatter or no, he spit on that ball.
We take serious...comedically.
100%
If he didn’t spit on the ball he sure tried to. Does NY get a pass on breaking an obvious rule?
SUSPEND HIM!
We take serious...comedically.
he could have just spit on his hand and THEN...
rub the spit into the ball.
This thread is not a high-water mark for this site
If nobody has explained the compression of field distance in a telephoto shot to you before, allow me to be the first.
What looks like spitting directly on the ball could, in fact, have been a foot or more to the right of Rivera’s hand. The lens, however, compresses the depth of field and makes it seem like the event is happening directly over the ball.
Didn’t we already explore this with the ball which dropped “directly in front” of Juan Rivera in Fenway? What seemed like a catch which was possible with the fielder diving for the ball was, in fact, not nearly close enough to him for that to be possible—it is just that the camera angle and telephoto lens made it seem so.
Everybody really needs to stop looking for the hoboes on the grassy knoll and instead focus on the team’s need to simply play better baseball, especially on the offense. Accusing the other team’s pitchers of cheating and the umpires of being biased and the like are just side shows of no importance.
"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon
agreed
Nick Adenhart- Forever a true Angel in Heaven. RIP 1986-2009
by AnaheimHalos61 on Oct 20, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Arod could shoot roids directly into his ass
while punching a newborn swaddled on third base, and the league, the fans, and George fucking Kaplan would tell us all that the video is inconclusive due to focal length and fly balls appearing closer in the rear view mirror than they actually are.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 20, 2009 11:12 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
That's funny
Dude, can you believe you started something that was reviewed by the commissioner’s office and is on the NY Post website? That is freaking insane. I bow to you.
We are the Los Angeles Angels of the late 2000s
One word for you
Decaf.
"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon
by George Kaplan on Oct 20, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
haha
the coffee thoughts dwindle as the day gets older
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 20, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
UPDATE STRAIGHT FROM MLB AND NY POST
PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!
SILENCE!
THE GREAT AND POWERFUL OZ HAS SPOKEN!
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 20, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
agreed the "logic" used by MLB is inane
He did it in plain sight, who would be that stupid to do it in plain site.
He’s appeared in 999 games and it’s never been brought up before so it must be false.
By that logic can someone explain what he’s NOT allowed to do???? Seems like MLB would let him put a turd on the ball and throw it up there. Well he’s never put feces on the ball before that we know of, so he certainly didn’t do it this time.
All I know, is that
I see the spit line all of a sudden explode around the hand and ball.
Maybe it hit a bug 5 feet away from the ball, given the depth of field magic surrounding what we see on tv.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 20, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
You are seeing what you want to see.
Happens all the time.
You too can be a baseball media analyst! Just don't allow your need to be wrong in public to get in the way of your ignorance.
just as mlb is telling me what they want me to see
happens all the time.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 20, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
You already agreed that you were mistaken in seeing splatter
here.
MLB is agreeing with your agreement. Now THAT is something that does NOT happen all the time.
You too can be a baseball media analyst! Just don't allow your need to be wrong in public to get in the way of your ignorance.
why?
because the league gave their opinion on something that protects their money machine?
MLB has an endless supply of rug and the largest broom in all of professional sports.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 20, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Their argument was he's never been seen doing it before, so he must not have done it
By that same logical thought, I should be allowed to rob a bank and get away with it because I’ve never done it before. The video evidence was taken from a bad angle, and I was actually withdrawing money from the teller like I’ve done every other time I’ve gone to the bank.
There is as much proof that he did do it as he didn’t do it. You’re really gonna trust Bud Selig’s “I zee nothing” guys on this one?
RIP #34
This just in
In a stunning turn about the Yankees have now been proclaimed the winners of Game 3 of the ALCS. Upon review it was found that in 120 years of playing baseball the Yankees have never lost a game in the ALCS in which they were up 3-0. Therefore by using the “Mariano Rivera Spitball Logic Property” Bud Selig really had no choice but to give the Yankees a 3-0 series lead.
Bud Selig had this to say, “I was as shocked as anyone, when Howard Kendrick scored that run in extra innings as the home team I thought that gave the W to the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, but looking over the record book, if the Yankees have never lost before in those circumstances they certainly couldn’t have lost yesterday”
I think Rivera MISUNDERSTOOD:
He was doing a SPITTER update. When he got back to the bench, they corrected him by telling him it’s called TWITTER!
I love this team.
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