Jim Rome's game 5 take - from ESPN's Rome is burning
"There's something a little distasteful about me sitting right here acting like I'm Connie Mack, Casey Stengel and Tony Larussa all rolled into one the day after the fact. That said, nobody is more relieved today than Angels manager Mike Scioscia. That cat is seriously off the hook after nearly managing his team right out of the ALCS last night. Well, it does take some unbelievable gall for me to second guess a guy who's forgotten more baseball than I will ever know. Considering that's what they pay me to do I'm just going to go ahead and do it. Besides, Scioscia has not forgotten more baseball than John Lackey will ever know, and I know that Lackey agrees with me.
How do you hook him with a 4 run lead when he had just gotten Damon to fly out to right for the second out of the inning? Look, if you want to pull him after he walked Posada and Jeter great, but if you leave him in to get Damon (and he does) how do you not let him work his way out of that jam and get the last out, especially since he was set to face a struggling Texas. He's your horse, he dominated for the first 6 innings and he was right- that was HIS game.
Now, not only are you going to have to replace Lackey next year when he leaves, you almost had to replace the entire ballpark after Darren Oliver dragged his gas can to the bump, soaked the infield with gasoline, starting flicking lit finger tips all around and attempted to burn that joint to the ground. Texas, the guy that Scioscia "Just had to turn around" cleared the bases on the very first pitch, Oliver then intentionally walks AROD, gave up the game tying knock to Madsui and then passed his gas can to Jepsen who tried to burn down the rest of the city allowing that two run triple to Cano.
Luckily the rally monkey then came out, the Angels came back and the manager was off the hook. The only person happier than Scioscia was the Phillies manager, because if the Angels can steal game 6 and force Sabathia to pitch again then every Philly fan will probably be climbing greasy lamp posts and dodging roman candle fire once again."
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pretty well said.
"In every adversity there lies the seed of an equivalent advantage. In every defeat is a lesson showing you how to win the victory next time." (Robert Collier)
by norcaliangelsfan on Oct 23, 2009 4:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I used to listen to Rome everyday.
Didn’t like him at first, but then he grew on me. That guy definitely has a way with words. And everything he said about last night was damn straight.
Happy Birthday to the ground!
by Monkeyspanked on Oct 23, 2009 4:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well this is why Jim Rome has never managed a MLB team to the playoffs
RIP #34
by linkbruin on Oct 23, 2009 4:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
So easy to sit in a studio and cap on the skipper. I am so tired of this “Scioscia screwed up” nonsense. In either scenario that could have happened against the Angels he would have looked like an ass had the offense not bailed him out:
1. Lackey is left in there … Teix hits a 3 run double to right field. Backlash: “What a nutjob Scioscia is … leaving Lackey in there against Teix when he had a warm Oliver SITTING in the bullpen!”
2. Takes Lackey out and puts in Oliver. Teix hits a 3-run double to left field. Backlash: “What an ass Scioscia is for taking out Lackey. It was HIS game.”
Boy, aren’t we all a freakin’ Phi-Beta-Kappa genius when we know the end result?
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Oct 23, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly, Teixeira not Texas, was "due" for the big hit after not providing much offense in this series.
If had not been off Lackey it would have been off which ever reliever Soth threw out there. Lackey always wants to stay out on the mound longer than he should, always. Baloney it was HIS game. Nobody knows more what is going on with these players both physically and mentally than Soth and Butcher at any given moment and especially during a game. Anybody else is an internet second-guesser.
The 2009 Pregame Picks Winner and Iron Man of Halos Heaven.com
by 44FAN on Oct 23, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just to clarify
Jim Rome did correctly use Tex’s name (Teixeira and not Texas.) When I dictated his take I was just too lazy to keep spelling out his name.
by Trooper86 on Oct 23, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt sosh was thinking Teixeira is "due"
we better take Lackey out now.
by Funke5ive on Oct 23, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
more plausible
The only thing I can fathom is turning Teix around, or the emo look on John’s face/chiny-chin-chin…i kid
either way…Peace out Big John and I don’t blame you !
by Funke5ive on Oct 23, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If your betting on the due theory then Oliver was DUE to lay an egg as well
Willie Mays Aikens is FREeeeeeeee
by Angel Aviator on Oct 24, 2009 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
game last night hurts because, that was probably it for Lackey as an Angel
Look Angels won, so usually, fans just move on. Problem is Lackey is a free agent at the end of the year, and that is the confrontation.. Our last moments remember JL in an Angel uniform is the 7th inning .
Great point by Steve Hartment and former GM Bowden from the Natiionals. Hartment said, he could coach by the book like Sosh, any fan who really follows baseball can make that call. The great managers are the ones who coach on instinct and guy feel, I 100 percent agree.
Look, all year, I have bashed our manager for over managing, and relying on pitching counts. Adenharts awesome game, but to be pulled and pen blows game. Of course we have seen this all year with Lacky ahead, Weaver ahead and Saunders ahead. I will say this again, sometimes the best move a manager can make is the move he DOES not make.
What is so crushing on this and why all the ANgel fans cannot just say, look we won lets move on is because more and likely, we lost any hope of resigning Lackey, Could you imagine Lackey in a Dodger or Red Sux, Yankee Jersey next year? Texas sounds like a fit for him, but, the team is having financial troubles.
You do not have to agree with me thats fine, but I will ask this, does Lackey get the appreciation and respect from the Angel fans as he should? Next to Nolan Ryan, Lackey may be the best right hander ever to pich for the Halos.
FInally, What I have heard a lot today on radio is, stick with Lackey who won a game 7 World series as 22, lives for these moments and is in a contract year. Our manager picked 39 year old journey man. Yes, he has had a good year for his standards, but plan and simple, dont piss off your best pitcher, or player. Example Kobe Bryant. Can you see phil tell Kobe in the 4th with 2 minutes left of a tie game against the Celtics, your tired, you need to sit, we need fresh legs in and lets go to Sasha!!!! or Luke!!!
by Ca1IFORNIA ANGELS on Oct 23, 2009 9:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that was really hard to read...
but, I agree.
With the way Scioscie treated him, I see it being easy for John to travel the circuit and get to know a few other managers this winter. Money will win, but so too will the manager that allows John to throw 8 innings every start, even if he gives up 5 runs in the process.
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by feNOMINAL on Oct 23, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You will see Lackey PITCHING in an Angel uni 3 more times in 2009.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Oct 23, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure if Game 6 goes the Halos Way
Lackey would be out there for Game 7.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
by Jay Cal on Oct 24, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right...
game 7 ALCS plus two World Series starts. Was I unclear about that???? ;)
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Oct 25, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
39 year old journey man who....
a 0.00 ERA over 6 1/3 this post season before Game Five.
Get with it, dude. you’re out of touch sometimes.
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Oct 23, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey now...be fair
he’s only “out of touch” when he’s awake.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
by Moondoggy on Oct 25, 2009 5:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If this was the first or second inning
I think you would have a point. It was the 7th. In an elimination game.
RIP #34
by linkbruin on Oct 23, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you still here? Why haven't you been banned?
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
by opiejeanne on Oct 23, 2009 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Money is no object
Except when you are tapped. Texas is having financial issues. The McCourt divorce will handcuff any off season cash that franchise could have had. New York just spent $280 Million on pitching, I’m pretty sure they will not be the suitors for Lackey. Perhaps Boston, but aren’t they committed to several pitchers already?
I think maybe Lackey’s best place to re-sign will be with the Angels. But if he doesn’t, I expect him to sign in places that can afford him. Probably an AL Team. Probably Seattle.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
by Jay Cal on Oct 24, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seattle? Really? What makes you say that?
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
by Clutch on Oct 25, 2009 2:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, dude.
Not to get all cornball here, but I thought this was a TEAM game. No one player is bigger than the team, right? It’s Scioscia’s JOB to make these calls. So you’re saying he should leave his pitcher in the game to protect his feelings? Give me a fucking break.
by dmhead on Oct 24, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Arte gives him the best deal...
…he stays. Lackey is 31, this is likely his last chance to make the big bucks. Regardless of the brush up with Scoscia, if he gets the money from the Angels he’ll be back.
by mustard_man on Oct 24, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck Rome.
Who the hell would want to be a “clone” of an dirty goateed ass-clown like Jim Rome? His radio show is the Dungeons and Dragons of sports radio. I listen to five minutes of that show and I dont have a clue what the hell he is talking about because their is so much nerdy lingo that you only really get if you listen to the show everyday in its entirety.
Really, who follows and worships this guy? A bunch of geeks who spend their thoughts on trying to give Rome an erection from the perfect “smack.” I aint hating if you listen to it. Hell, I wonder what hes got to say about things every now and then but 90 percent of the time I dont know what he is talking about and get tired of his massive chest-pumping bravado when we all know hes just trying to make up for something…
He Rome, I see you grew some facial hair and put on some weight. Maybe you can actually take Jim Everett this time.
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Oct 23, 2009 9:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That was awesome...
I’ve never listened to Jim Rome and only heard of him when he made fun of my team’s QB.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Oct 23, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like Rome...but...
understandable…you like the Rams. ;) J/K!
side note: I don’t think they should have the record that they currently have.
Is this you? DOWNING RULES
by figgifig on Oct 23, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think DR's team is the Rams.
The 2009 Pregame Picks Winner and Iron Man of Halos Heaven.com
by 44FAN on Oct 23, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm freakin' lost here...
what the heck does Terrell Owens have ANYTHING to do with me? The guy is a freakshow.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Oct 24, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crying over his QB
In the same way that you only know Rome because he angered your QB?
I don’t know.
The one thing I know about this whole thing is that you don’t call Jim Everett “Chris.”
by BruinHalo on Oct 24, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"he's my QB!"
Rome made fun of your QB…so I was joking w/this line. you probably are not a “freak-show”.
by figgifig on Oct 24, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I don't listen to TO, as I clicked the link...
saw that face and instantly closed the window. I won’t give him even a split second of lip service.
I see the parallel now, but I do not appreciate being compared to that freak. ;P
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Oct 25, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is my bottom line
Rome brings up some going points that I most definitely agree with. I was 100% in favor of keeping Lackey in the game.
However, if I could pick one guy in the world to make the decision, no doubt it would be our manager. So in that regard, the guy I trust the most to make the right decision made a call, and I am ok with that. In Scioscia I trust. End of story.
by LosAngel on Oct 23, 2009 11:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I am more impressed that Rome's writing team
was capable of using enough Wikipedia to research who Connie Mack and Casey Stengel were, so that they could type those names into the teleprompter for Rome to recite.
You too can be a baseball media analyst! Just don't allow your need to be wrong in public to get in the way of your ignorance.
by Stirrups on Oct 24, 2009 12:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
we live and die by Scioscia's calls
Last year, we could second guess the squeeze call. This year we could question the Lackey call. And the Fuentes call. And other calls. I could question them, as well.
But all the Monday-morning quarterbacking only counts when we lose. These guys live by results, and they know it.
Do I think Lackey should’ve been pulled? Hell no. But that’s the way Scioscia works. Should he have put in Fuentes for Weaver? My gut says hell no. But Scioscia’s not going to mix up the pattern he’d constructed throughout the season. And he knows that if the Angels would’ve lost that game, there would’ve been a fucking shitstorm — that he would’ve had to face.
But it didn’t happen. The Angels got it done, and maybe some here think that happened despite him. But this blog has been a bitch-fest for results, so we should give Scioscia his props for his results so far.
by yeswecan on Oct 24, 2009 12:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
how many times did u watch JRIB to type this out?
by figgifig on Oct 24, 2009 1:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What the fuck does it matter?
Are you a whiny little kid or something? Calling me lazier than GA for not properly typing Tex’s name? Who the fuck cares, he’s a traitor who just last week called Yankee fans the best in the world! I took that as a shot knowing he was going to face the Angels, as if our fans suck compared to smelly, greasy Yankee fans. I spent my time dictating JRIB’s take thinking people here would appreciate the entertainment value of it – whether you agree with his opinion or not (and I don’t.) I don’t listen to his radio show but after big, controversial sporting events I might watch his show or read his website to get a laugh. I’m definately not a “clone” – those guys need to get a woman.
by Trooper86 on Oct 24, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
huh? I just wanted to know cause it looked like it would take a while and the GA thing was a joke...calm down.
At first I thought you might have found it online or something but if you didn’t great job. Whats funny is that I could picture Rome saying texas.
by figgifig on Oct 24, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aight, I thought you were trying to be a jackass or something
I’m a bit stressed and schitzo when the Angels are in the ALCS. When I originally posted this I was notified they had to take it down because of copyright issues – that you can’t just copy/paste content from another site. When I informed them that I typed it myself straight from Rome’s show and his take is not printed anywhere on the internet (or his website) they decided to give the post a green light.
by Trooper86 on Oct 24, 2009 6:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Trooper86, chill out and calm down...
The “GA is lazy” thing is a joke, and me being a GA guy, it took me a while to comprehend that’s all it was, a joke. You really have to develop thicker skin with your fellow Halo brethren (and sistren?). It took me about 200 postings before I figured out, it ain’t personal. Personally, Jim Rome is ok, in very small doses, but he does remind me of the kid that was always the first out in dodge ball and never picked to play any sport as a kid. His revenge, a nationally syndicated radio show, TV show and clones.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
by halofolife on Oct 24, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OLD SCHOOL
Sorry I am old School when it comes to pitching. Having pitched minor league ball I may know something. Sosh was wrong! The five man rotation is wrong, and starting pitchers need to work longer into games and throw more pitches.
Think about it, back when you had four man rotations, you had maybe 1/80th of the arm injuries you have now, (okay slight exageration). You also had a lower payroll not having to carry extra pitchers who maybe pitched to the opponents top lefty, and got paid 2-5 million a year for it.
Let your pitchers work out of jams!
by Baylorsgroove on Oct 26, 2009 2:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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