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I can't hate the Yankees...

...although I used to--prior to 2006. (Note: I considered writing this as a reply to Moondoggy's post because it has a similar theme, but, what-the-heck--it's cathartic.) That summer, my family took a two-plus-week trip back East to visit New York and New England. We drove a clockwise route from NYC to upstate NY, thru Vermont and NH to Maine, down to Boston, then back to NYC for the last four days. On the way we got to see/experience three baseball-related sights: Cooperstown, a Fenway Park tour, and we caught just a glimpse of Yankee Stadium.

Star-divide

We were a bit apprehensive about the final NYC leg of the trip--we're not big-city folks--but we shouldn't have been concerned at all. We ran into--much to our surprise--lots of helpful, friendly (!) Gotham-ites. And two NYC-dwellers stood out above the rest.

First, there was an annoymous guy on the subway. On our first full day, we did a lot of traveling on the subway. At some point, we hopped on a train going uptown instead of downtown. As soon as we got on, I realized we blew it. We were obviously tourists, and I was looking at the route map, trying to figure out how to reverse our direction. A local businessman noticed our plight, and made sure we got on the right train. He actually got off the train we were both on, and directed us to the right platform. He then got back on the next train going in his direction. To top it off, he made sure we could fix our problem without having to exit and re-enter the station, which would have cost extra fares. We thanked him profusely for his above-the-call-of-duty help.

The other outstanding person we met was our waitress (from Yonkers) at Totonno's pizza in the upper-east side. We had spent most of another day in and around Central Park. A co-worker of my wife had suggested a pizza place not too far from the park. When we went to the corner where the pizza place was supposed to be, no luck. (After we got back, he realized he gave us bum directions.) We looked around, starving, and just up the block was another place: Totonno's, whose awning read, "Only God Makes Better Pizza." Bingo! It was late afternoon and the place had just opened. Again, we looked like obvious tourists. The waitress pegged us, correctly, for Californians, and jokingly asked if we wanted ranch dressing on our pizza, because everyone in Cali eats pizza w/ ranch dressing. I came back with some now-forgotten stereotypical comment about New Yorkers, which completely broke the ice. We had some of the best pizza I ever had--a thin Margherita pie (no ranch, of course), along with salad, bread, a large (free!) carafe of Chianti, and (free, again!!) desert. For most of the meal we were the only ones in there, which meant we were treated like royalty. Overall, just a great dining experience. And I think we helped dispell at least one California stereotype.

Ever since that trip, I haven't had the hate for NY that I used to have. Those two people are the faces of NY to me and my family, and it's hard to hate folks like that. Now Boston, on the other hand...

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also I don’t really give a city bonus points for acts of generosity from its citizens. I give the bonus points to the people who do the acts.

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by teopeht on Oct 26, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can hate the Yankees.

And I hate their fans when I see them cheering on my TV. I have a blanket of hate for anything even loosely related to the Red Sox*.

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by 44FAN on Oct 26, 2009 9:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

mmmm

Blanket of Hate keeps me warm during the winter.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Oct 26, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No ranch on the pizza?

Thats only a california thing? Its amazing!

Never Quit , Never Surrender!

by anaheim angels on Oct 26, 2009 10:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A few years ago I went to NY for a week.

An NY native now living here in SoCal found out and, not knowing that I had supported an office in Manhattan for 17 years, assumed it would be my first trip. He impaled me with stories about how NOT to order pizza like some stupid Californian. His finale was to warn me away from pineapple. “NEVER order a pizza in New York with pineapple!!!” Uh…sure. Ok.

So a few days later, tired and hungry from the trip I stepped out of my hotel to grab a bite. Across the street was a pizza joint. Yep, there in the window, a large ham and pineapple pizza being sold by the slive, and have taken already.

I wonder what John Lackey must think about how long Sosh left Juan Rivera in the playoff lineup?

by Stirrups on Oct 27, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you write this late at night?

not your usual eloquence Stirrups. I will attest that NY pizza is the best I’ve ever had (as noted in an earlier thread many moons ago…I still have fond memories of Shakey’s — and I know, Lampost in Irvine is supposed to be very good).

Oh…and pineapple on NY pizza is almost a staple.

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

by Moondoggy on Oct 28, 2009 5:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forgive my current writing style these days.

I am still working off my ALCS failure hangover. Testy. Bitter. Even my mockery is weak sauce. A mockery of itself. And I don’t even have sufficient energy to correct those who disagree with me. And, yes, I had just gotten back from a business retreat up in the local mountains (where my poker winnings were the only positive event of the entire weekend). I was exhausted.

If you ever get back OC, screw Lampost. In Orange, up at Tustin and Meats, back in the very corner of the shopping center (not the Mall), there is a Zito’s. Go there. This is the original. The other Zito’s outlets around Orange are NOT the same pie. This one appears to put garlic in the butter that they baste the dough with before they apply the sauce. the best pizza I have had anywhere, even NY. (Of course, the original owner was from a pizza making family from NY.)

I wonder what John Lackey must think about how long Sosh left Juan Rivera in the playoff lineup?

by Stirrups on Oct 28, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

will do

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

by Moondoggy on Oct 28, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't hate the Yanks.

I hated watching them beat my team but I HATE the Sox and their fans. Yankee fans are obnoxious but tolerable, Sox fans are winy douche bags. The only down side to their team’s decline is now we all have listen to more years of their fans complaining about bad calls and Yankee bias and wine wine wine wine wine.

by pbubba on Oct 26, 2009 10:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

agree

I’ve been out here for 21 years now and whle I definitely don’t hate New Yorkers, I loath the Yankees. Always have, always will. I respect them and I’ll pull for them against the BoSux (that was a surprise to me…before I cameout here, I didn’t care about the Sux one way or the other. The more I was exposed to them and their fans, the more the hatred grew), but I’ll never not hate them.

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

by Moondoggy on Oct 27, 2009 5:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You might not be able to, but I sure as hell can

From jacking the city of New York for a billion and a half to make a stadium that’s already starting to fall apart, to buying every free agent in sight, there’s plenty of reasons.

As for the fans? Don’t get me wrong; every fan base has its good core, even the Yankees and the Phillies. And hell, we had the Rally Wino, so there’s no lack of d-bags in OC. But if you’ve ever had to deal with the Bleacher Creatures in Yankee Stadium or you’ve seen that howler monkey passing himself off as a Yankee fan in that MLB Network ad, it’s pretty freaking hard to find any sympathy for the city of New York.

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by BigKahunaMan on Oct 27, 2009 8:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

As a matter of fact

I was in the bleachers for game six. Rev and the Mrs. spent an evening in the right field bleachers. The reputation is not as bad as reality. The fact is that the vast majority of the fans aren’t that bad, in fact, are kind of fun to be around and to jaw back and forth with.

I used to think that the Yankee fans that we have to endure in SoCal were truly awful, but talk with the ushers and they will tell you they have MANY more problems with “halo fans” being disrespectful and starting fights than with the Skank fans.

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

by Moondoggy on Oct 27, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BIG TIME CAVEAT

While I don’t hate the NYY fan base (like I hate the BoSux fans), I do hate hate hate the Yankees and will till the day I die.

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

by Moondoggy on Oct 27, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I ♥ New York.

I moved out here a year and a half ago because I am in love with this city… The energy, the architecture, the diversity, the food (OMG THE FOOD). In the two months I’ve worked in Manhattan, New Yorkers have been fabulous. Until I went to the game Sunday night, I’d never had a real problem with one.

After much discussion with a Sux fan friend (we didn’t talk baseball until years after we were friends, for some reason) who lived here for a few years, I’ve realized that I don’t hate the Yankees, or even fans of Yankees baseball who know and respect the game and can discuss it in an intelligent way.

I hate, loathe, abhor the “Yankees fans” who are just wearing the hat or Jeter jersey as a way to identify with winners. (This came up in another recent thread, I think. Maybe Report, Part II?) It’s as though they think that the Yankees’ success compensates for their total failure in other arenas (such as LIFE).

Unfortunately for all of us, it doesn’t.

by cath619 on Oct 27, 2009 9:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Careful with these statements

Prior to 2004, most folks hated the Yankees, indifferent to the Red Sox. Once the Red Sox won the WS and especially after the second time, the team and their fans became insufferable. Most people were rooting for the Red Sox over the Yankees prior to this.

If the Yankees win the WS this year, their fans will revert back to their obnoxious normal selves. Right now they are somewhat humble, but don’t expect that to last if they win it all.

by LosAngel on Oct 27, 2009 10:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

Agree 100%. Same think with the Pats. I rooted for them when they were the underdog. Then everyone started tripping all over-themselves with worship. It’s ridiculous.

Nick, you will always be an Angel. And you will be missed.

by anaheimisnotla on Oct 27, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I LOVE NEW YORKERS...

who stay in New York

We are the Los Angeles Angels of the late 2000s

by Higz on Oct 27, 2009 5:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

New Yorkers tend to be very loud and sometimes obnoxious (i know this because

i am a new yorker). But like I said in Moondoggy’s fanpost, we can also be very caring, kind, loving, helpful human beings. If a complete stranger came up and asked me where the Casa Blanca hotel was, I would dessert whatever I was doing and make sure I got them there safely. That’s what we do, and we have the best pizza (without ranch dressing). :^)


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by TheMelkman on Oct 28, 2009 10:15 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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