I say pull the trigger. I think he might be wanting 10 per though.

He is great player,though a lil out of shape,hits 3 or 4 more years…
I agree wih yer price Halofan..maybe up 2 10 ?

It’s really ugly.

I think Bobby coming back is a good idea. He seemed to have the most/best influence on Chone this past season. So if Chone is gone, and Aybar is our new leadoff guy, then Bobby would hopefully be a good influence on him.

So yeah. Stick around i little more Mr Abreu.

With that said, I wouldn’t be surprised if some team like the Giants snaps him up for more money that Arte at the last minute…

Enough said.

and see if Arte/Tony can pull somebody top dollar to shore up the OF.

for two years at $20M. That I believe is what his value is. I also think that they will bring back Vlad. The two of them will platoon at DH and Right Field. If this happens it can keep them both fresh and in the lineup. The downfall is our right field defense will be extremely weak.

Both sides can win this:

1st year = $8MM
2nd year = $8.5MM
3rd year = $9MM team option with a $1.5MM buyout

Or something like that.

Bobby is guaranteed at least $18MM, and could make as much as $25.5MM. Not bad for an aging outfielder.

Arte is guaranteeing $18MM, but is only on the hook for two years. If Bobby maintains his productivity (youneverknow), he is rewarded handsomely, and properly.

I’m not sure either party could find a better deal this winter.

He has the power to go to Arte/Ninja and say “I want two more years of Bobby on this team,” and I think that would get us to put a slightly larger offer on the table than we otherwise would. Scioscia called Abreu our team’s MVP this year (when pressed) and so I don’t see this as outside of the realm of possibility.

I like johnnyangel101’s option, above, it seems to give everyone most of what they seem to want.

I think the off season will be bleak for many free agents. Yankees are set , dodgers in limbo and I don’t see any team being in a position to spend big bucks on 36 year old that has seen better days. I think there will be more bobby abreu’s and Orlando Hudson’s waiting until the last minute and accepting lessor offers. The agents just don’t get the new economic realities. Bobby had a good season and I hope he comes back, but I hope Arte doesn’t overspend negotiating against himself.

Went to Gozanga for college so the chances of getting him out west might not be bad…

Bobby A brings great discipline that obviously had rubbed off on other players. Jason Bay does not have that discipline but what if they were playing together?

Jason Bay in 9 games at Angels stadium is batting .176… HOWEVER, out of his 6 hits at Angels Stadium FOUR of them have been Home Runs.

He’s 31…ah yes, another aging outfielder for the Halos…just what we need.

He batted .400 at the new Yankees stadium this year.

But I have no problem saying goodbye to Abreu. He was a great bargain last year and his influence will be felt on the Angels for years to come. But he also had a very quiet Post-Season. A guy who isn’t new to post-season play was very quiet.

My preference would be to Vladimir over Bobby. I read a lot of great arguments for Bobby, but I just don’t see it. I don’t see Arte spending the money on a free-agent outfielder when we have a reasonable starting three in Rivera, Hunter, and Matthews.

let him teach young aybar the way of the productive at-bat for two years. i’d like to keep figgins,b ut i think it’s more important to let b wood get his shot, and it’s a crowded team as-is.

the thought of our slender first baseman chugging around RF is not a pleasant one.

and i don’t think vlad’s coming back. with him leading a bunch of free-swingers we never made it to the WS and didn’t show as well as we’d like in the playoffs. with abreu’s mindset firmly in place we swept the bosox and played the yankees hard despite ourselves.

i want abreu back for sure. i do not want matt holliday.

has got a point…….hmmm…….so if Bobby walks OUR best alternative is GMJ………hmmmm…….interesting

Give him the 2 years with the 8M / 8.5M (AB incentives) with 3rd option. Guy just might fit as a DH somewhere down the road as well.

I have heard 40 million and someone said 56 million and I want to think 60 million because i figure he will add to the payroll…?

Raises to ARB players, costs of signing/re-signing free agents, we’ll probably be closer to 60 million than 40.

A lot of time is spent on HH discussing whether or not a guy is worth the money. More time is spent discussing how much postseason performance matters. One thing that hasn’t been fully flushed out is: if we lose a guy like Bobby, how does the team get better?

Yes it’s true that the money could be spent elsewhere or that someone could rise up and replace his production, but who is that player?

I personally don’t care how much Arte spends as long as the team gets better. Last year we lost Teixeira, but his production was replaced by Kendry. GA was replaced by Rivera (or Abreu). So let’s discuss where the production comes from if we let Abreu walk. I don’t really see it on the bench or in AAA like we did last year.

….. on horrible/cash poor teams that could use the boost that 4 or 5 major league ready, or nearly so, players can bring? I mean, let Bobby and his contract demands go, screw Adrian, he’s great, but we have Cowbell. I’d almost rather drop those players mentioned in trade for Adrian on a team like the Pirates and get a guy like Andrew McCutchen, or David DeJesus, or any of the three outfielders in Baltimore? Heck, give em all kinds of players, we have a pretty crowded roster as it is, and an obvious NEED.

Spare cash and prospects, especially at pitcher and catcher, should be used to plug glaring holes. Figgins leaving is not a glaring hole, we have Wood. Lackey leaving is fine, he can go bitch and complain somewhere else and we still have a better rotation than most teams. Abreu is a bit more of a blow, but he himself is not really a long term solution, but he is expensive now. So it’s a sour situation either way, we failed to develop a young outfielder to fill the void, spend what ever it takes to solve it.

GMJ wants out

Please find a way to get rid of him

I think some people are forgetting that he batted .556 with 4 walks (all 4 coming in game 1, he didn’t have an official at bat) against Boston in the ALDS. Really, he just had a crappy ALCS. If you were to throw away that crappy ALCS, his numbers are fantastic. On top of that, his presence in the clubhouse is not only that of a leader but also a teacher. His influence on the younger players is invaluable, something that none of the coaches could have installed.

I often wonder if Morales’ numbers would have been as amazing without Bobby’s influence.

And if he stays it will be double. So you gotta let him know: should he cool it or should he blow?

on a 2 year deal with a 3rd year mutual option. he’s a great, professional hitter, and he’s had a profound impact on all of our hitters. we need his continued guidance with Aybar, Kendry and now Wood. the young guys are blossoming very well with him on the team.

ideally, i’d like Jason Bay’s numbers as well, but i don’t really want Jason Bay. I’m more interested to see what Napoli can do with the full-time DH role (and part-time C?). if Nappy fails or the offense sucks, made a trade midseason for a guy like Dunn to DH.

This one is way too tough to call.

I really liked Bobby, but he could be in his 40s for all we know. How many aging outfielders do we need?

I could go either way on Bobby, Figgins, and Vlad.

Lackey should be top priority.

but based on his alcs, his price must’ve dropped somewhat, right?

if it could happen, one more year would really be great to let aybar and the rest glean more of abreu’s at-bats and whatnot.

AFTER A COMPLETE SEASON IN 2007 WITH THE PHILLIES AND GOING TO THE SKANKS THE PHILS WIN THE W.S. THE FOLLOWING SEASON.
AFTER A COMPLETE SEASON WITH THE 2008 SKANKS LOOK WHO’S IN THE W.S. THIS YEAR.

We have to try to sign Holliday over Abreu. We got three legitimate options here, we will get a damn good Corner OF.