Joe West Named Crew Chief
by TheAngelsAngels on Oct 5, 2009 3:16 PM PDT
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PrintMajor League Baseball has made another transparent pro Red Sox move by naming Joe West the crew chief for the Angels-Red Sox ALDS matchup. In case you forgot, West is the same bag of doughnuts who ejected Hunter, Hatcher, and Speier after Beckett acted like a masshole during a Bobby Abreu at bat that ended with benches clearing and Nick Adenhart comments raging. In my opinion, it was more appalling than Rick Reed's debacle with the missed strike call. There is at least room for the excuse of a human error in that instance. This was blatant favoritism. MLB immediately suspended Beckett it was so blatant.
There are three other crew chief options to go with, and we magically ended up with this sorry excuse for American umpiring. I would find it odd that MLB pulled this move, but I am sure everyone knows why I am hardly surprised. Let's hope everything goes smoothly...
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No, 'bug is just being nasty.
West’s crew will include C.B. Bucknor, Eric Cooper, Greg Gibson, Brian Gorman and Dan Iassogna.
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
lassogna?
Hope the Soth doesnt try to eat him.
"In every adversity there lies the seed of an equivalent advantage. In every defeat is a lesson showing you how to win the victory next time." (Robert Collier)
by norcaliangelsfan on Oct 5, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Atleast we'll get a fair shake from Iassogna.
#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!
What's your basis?
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
I actually noted how good a game Iassogna was calling in
the Sept 30th game against Texas, I think. In a search of this site, we apparently had some problems with him in 2007, but none since then.
#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!
Oh, ok
Cool. Let’s see how it goes!
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Yeah, Iassogna is a good ump
So is CB Bucknor, who always given up some fair treatment
Don't call me Desmond!
fu**'em both.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Oct 6, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Just shows MLB has no integrity...
West, Bucknor, Hernandez- three of probably the worst ten umpires in the league, all in the post season. Oh well, let’s get out there and take care of business anyways!
And we get two of them.
Well, at least we didn’t get Reed or Eddings….
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
How in the world do you put in an umpire who has a history with a team????
Here’s how umpires for should be chosen for the postseason.
1. Players anonymously choose their top 10 umpires.
2. The 24 who received the most votes are the ALDS umps, the 12 that received the most advance to the LCS, and the Top 6 go to the WS.
3. After the 24 are decided each team is told who their 6 umpires are likely going to be however each team has 1 peremptory challenge which can preclude any umpire from that series. If all 4 teams use their challenge on the same guy then they choose the 25 guy from the players vote.
How could anyone except the umpires themselves argue with this selection process?
There's the problem
“How could anyone except the umpires themselves argue with this selection process?”
The umpire’s union is almost as strong as the player’s union. Any attempt to shake things up that screws with the seniority will be laughed at and dismissed. It’s stupid, I know.
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
Which is so stupid on MLB's part
because they umpires striked not that long ago and they could have gotten rid of whoever they didn’t like and made major changes to the umpire’s union.
Granted I don’t follow football and basketball anywhere close to as much as baseball, but reading about those sports it seems like at least some effort is made to put the best umpires on the field
Disagree.
As bad as mlb umpiring can be at times, I still think they are far better than NBA umps, and a little better than NFL. MLB has a rigorous minor league system for umps. The others are just hired. It’s the difference between a real cop or soldier, and a mall security guard.
This season is my best chance to get called out of the stands to pitch.
by Rally Manatee on Oct 8, 2009 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions
That could be corrupted too. Replay's the only answer.
Players or whole teams could conspire to vote for the guys that they’re paying off. We just need to implement instant replay in more scenarios. That’s really the only way around biased officiating.
This season is my best chance to get called out of the stands to pitch.
by Rally Manatee on Oct 8, 2009 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Joe West and Angel Hernandez are terrible. The Angels should fare better if Gorman, Gibson or Cooper are behind the plate as those guys issue less walks and so are more likely to remain unimpressed by Youkilis’s ability to stand there and look ugly.
Yes, the Angels have walked more this season than years past, but they still don’t take NEARLY as many pitches as the Red Sox and their pitchers generally rely more on location (especially Weaver and Saunders) than the Sox do. If West, Hernandez and Bucknor see all the time behind the plate, these could be some LOOOOONG games, literally and figuratively.
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
Lawl........
and so are more likely to remain unimpressed by Youkilis’s ability to stand there and look ugly.
"In every adversity there lies the seed of an equivalent advantage. In every defeat is a lesson showing you how to win the victory next time." (Robert Collier)
by norcaliangelsfan on Oct 5, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
He can do that in his sleep....
Oh wait.. he DOES do that in his sleep (at least he lies there and looks ugly).
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
Actually Bucknor was really good the last time he was behind the plate in one of our games
Don't call me Desmond!
I actually like Bucknor
Even though he tends to call a tighter strike zone. I’m not sure why others don’t like Bucknor. It’s Hernandez and West I can’t stand.
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
red sox r back
wa wa ………what will lackey cry about this time we are back and we are your nightmare !!!!
thanks for stopping by Red Sox R #1...feel free to stop by after the series
R.I.P. Nick, you are missed!
You joined to post that?
It’s not even witty. Or intelligent. Or clever. You’re not sending a text message guy; you can use full words and punctuation.
But seriously, go crawl back in whatever hole you came out of.
RIP #34
Cmon, give him a break
He DID use the longest ellipsis ever. That counts as punctuation, right?
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
**ahem**
Three dots is usually enough.
Three dots are usually enough.
Subject/verb agreement, you know. If we’re going to criticize the semi-literate bleatings of alcohol-impaired Red Sox fans, it is important to keep this house in order as well.
Besides, it is unfair to critique the writing of “red sox r #1” when it is clear the writer’s balls have yet to drop.
"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon
by George Kaplan on Oct 5, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I know about the subject-verb agreement, I also know that sometimes the grouping of things allows the use of the singular.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
Collective nouns
That would be correct if one was describing a collective noun:
“The College of Cardinals met at Busch Stadium.”
In the case discussed, though, the objects were enumerated—“three dots”—which would demand a verb suited for a plural object.
For example, one wouldn’t write:
“The three best hitters in baseball is the elite.”
Unless, of course, one was the editor of a Red Sox blog.
"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon
by George Kaplan on Oct 6, 2009 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Tesonero!
Think of it this way:
I: “How many dots should I use for an ellipsis, opiejeanne?”
opiejeanne: “Three dots is enough.”
I know what you're proposing
…but you simply wind up with a flaccid sentence. It may be colloquially “correct” but it is weak sauce otherwise.
“Three dots” quantifies the number of dots, thus it is no longer a collective noun, but a specific formula which requires noun/verb agreement.
"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon
by George Kaplan on Oct 6, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, that's what makes English such a vital language
In spirit I agree with your “strict constructionism” regarding English, and I too resist any dilution of the language. In this case, however, since opiejeanne’s meaning emerged undiluted and unambiguous, I respectfully ask for an agreement to disagree.
Agreed
to, um, disagree, and…
aw, hell, I forgot what I was thinking.
"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon
by George Kaplan on Oct 8, 2009 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Your point is well taken
but in defense of opiejeanne, her usage is correct, based upon an inferred subject phrase of “the use of.”
i am follow every good grammar that are made sox fans
"Death to the opposition!" - Commander Worf, First Baseman: The Niners
+1. I miss that site, but I found a new one last night. Alas, it is not related to baseball.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
What was the site?
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
I can't for the life of me find it. I've hunted through the history on the computer I was using last night, and it does not appear.
I was looking for “things to do in London” and came across it. The English was hilarious.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
I good have helped you with that one, and I speak good English!
Are you coming over to London? If so, me and the Limey can show you around. Email the Rev if you want my email address ~ highland
Don't call me Desmond!
Wow
this makes me absolutely sick. Cowboy Joe West is just about the worst egomaniac in the umpiring ranks, and he hates us. The Angels better plan to win by large margins, because they can’t cheat if it’s not close.
I live for dangling modifiers!
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Oct 5, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
OUCH!
You got me! I haven’t dangled a modifier since eighth grade.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. And thanks, opiejeanne, for making the clarification for me.
I have noticed a tendency for me to misread individual words and short phrases, usually with hilarious results.
It seems to be getting worse as I age.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
The misunderstanding was entirely my fault
My last sentence was quite poorly phrased. It required a reading of the whole paragraph to divine my intent even to realize that there was an inferred dangling modifier. Literally, that sentence in isolation assigns the intention of cheating to the Angels. It was only you guys’ giving me the benefit of the doubt that saved me from the flames!
E, rspencer.
Im pretty sure I dangled my modifier the other night.
"In every adversity there lies the seed of an equivalent advantage. In every defeat is a lesson showing you how to win the victory next time." (Robert Collier)
by norcaliangelsfan on Oct 6, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I was at the aforementioned game on Mother's day
sitting next to two useless chowds who made too many “Adenhart is dead” jokes to be considered human. People in the stands were going bonkers, especially after Hunter, Speier and Hatcher got tossed.
The chowds turned to me and said “this is why you’ll never win the World Series again, no class.”
I hate you, Boston.
Want to lie more?
You have never been to an Angels game.
That would violate the 10 foot tether rule your ball and chain has imposed on you.
Tisk tisk for such obvious fallacies.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
I'll lie more... with your MOM
nono, I’m just kidding.
I stand when she mumbles my jumblies.
by shiftyeyedgoat on Oct 5, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyday is mothers day for me at your house!
(because your mom sleeps with me)
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
by PhiSlamma on Oct 5, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Best moment of any game I've personally attended
Last year, game 2 of the playoffs, Chone Figgins scores to tie up the game in the eighth inning when the Angels had been down all game. We had three Boston fans with the thickest accents imaginable sitting behind us yammering incorrect “facts” all game long about how superior their team was. This silenced them.
Of course the next half inning changed that, but for about 10 minutes, I sat in blissful, un-massholed joy.
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
See Stirrups' post on this topic from some time ago
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Honestly
I was pumped for this series, thinking we have all the motivation, billboard material and passion we need to take down the most over-hyped, overrated team in baseball.
This, however, is a crushing blow.
For anyone who watches the majority of the games, they know. Joe West is an awful strike caller, has an enormous ego, and thinks he is GOD OF BASEBALL!!>
I have absolutely no choice but to expect the umps to fuck us, for everyone to say that we should have beat the Red Sox by 10 every game to avoid aforementioned ump fucking, then the entire HH community to weep themselves to sleep for the next few months.
Fuck Joe West.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
I think I just used my F Bombs for the year.
Whoops
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
I'll transfer my allotment into your f-bomb account.
Curse away — you might need it with Joe West behind the dish.
Hey Ian Kinsler -- Get the F off OUR field!
He is the eptiome of how shameful American umpiring has become.
West looks like he is coasting because he is tenured or some shit. I see no passion or love of his craft. He probably just randomly guesses 30 times a game when behind the plate. He has no clue anymore how to correctly measure a strike zone and be consistent with it. On top of everything else wrong with this guy…
R.I.P.N.A.
by TheAngelsAngels on Oct 5, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, at least it's not....ADAM West....!
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Haha
Maybe it would be better to deal with this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4v1hAnfy1I
Than with Joe West?
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
by Clutch on Oct 5, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
There must be something we can do.
Anyone see the movie Celtic Pride?
We may need some 10-15 HH’ers for this guy tho…
R.I.P.N.A.
just 2 fans... plus a forklift...
i have my license for such equipment.
#34 R.I.P.
Heavenly Offense
by BigBangRobbDawgg on Oct 5, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
i do as well
lets use a forklift
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 5, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Just on the topic of Red Sox fans at Angels games...
sort of…
My sister went to Boston College, so she took me to a Red Sox game at Fenway one time. I brought a sign that said Patriots Blow or something to that tune and it was hilarious. Everyone is just unprepared for such a sign at a Red Sox game, so everyone got flustered and excited and I would just laugh at how they talked and at their worn down, beaten down college hats.
NO WAY BRAH!!!!!
R.I.P.N.A.
Angels just gotta go out there and make sure the games aren't even close.
Kick Ass Angels!
Buck Foston!
*rolls eyes
"Figgins' OBP is still over 40!" -Steve Physioc
by Figgi4life on Oct 5, 2009 7:18 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
You know
I really don’t care. If the Angels play how they can play they can have a damn Monkey umpiring. I don’t want any more damn excuses! Let’s just kick some damn ASS!!
First we had a Salmon and now we have a Trout, let's see the same results.
by angelskid2210 on Oct 5, 2009 7:24 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
We'd win if it was a monkey.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
by opiejeanne on Oct 5, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
What was the game in question?
And how can someone make jokes about Adenhart without appearing like a heartless troll?
The Big Red Machine V.2 is coming this Fall 2009. Go Halos!
it was super early in the season
i was at this game… and i had to watch GMJ in center because of this! WEAK!
here’s a link — http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/11623113
April 12th game.
And you can’t. That’s kinda the point.
#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!
Man, how appropriate that setting was for such comments.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Indeed.
We watched the tail end of the game at my dad’s house, and he didn’t understand why we were so intense about it. Then the station replayed the incident and he understood, but he does think we’ve sort of lost our minds about this baseball team. (He and Mom were Angels fans from 1961 on, but he’s 91 now. ) On the last out he asked why everyone in the stands was on their feet after the second strike. I don’t remember fans doing that before the last few years.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
At least the enemy is complaining about Joe West too
“Oh and Joe West, the umpire who is well known to hate the Sox as much as any man ever.”
Posted on sons of Sam Horn by Gehrig38. In case you don’t know, Gehrig38 is also known as Curt Schilling. He may be full of crap, but it’s good to know that Joe West umpiring is not a cause for celebration on their side.
The HK-47 hitting droid is the finest line drive machine ever built
Bwahahaha--Even Curt Schilling dislikes this guy? Wow.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
I'm amazed.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
So why did Torii, Speier, and Hatcher get tossed?
What did Beckett say?
The Big Red Machine V.2 is coming this Fall 2009. Go Halos!
He threw the ball AT BOBBY'S HEAD.
Bobby was like WTF? Torii was all like “this isn’t cool, see” and then Speier went all apeshit and Hatcher tried to restrain him, so they all got tossed, and Becky with his little smirk got to stay on the mound all pristine like. Douchebag.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Well...
Beckett actually walked halfway to the batters box, instigating a fight, which is a flagrant violation and grounds for immediate ejection.
MLB suspended Beckett for this violation, but, surprise surprise, he was allowed to stay in the game by Joe West.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
Eh, that was the point
That Beckett basically “started it.” Though I’d forgotten the bit where he walked to the batter’s box! Makes the whole thing even more infuriating.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
I hate the Red Sox
For many reasons, but that incident is not a grudge I hold. Joe West did the Angels a FAVOR by leaving Becky in that game. He gave the Angels hitters a chance to kick his a$$. And they did, 4 runs in 6 innings. Especially Abreu, hitting a 2 run single his second time up.
The HK-47 hitting droid is the finest line drive machine ever built
by RallyMonkey5 on Oct 6, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
If they are going to win they are going to win
I am not looking for an excuse
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
That's great!
And I think everyone posting here agrees with you. I see no one looking for an excuse.
I can tell you that all I want is equitable, competent officiating for this series, and the prospects for this are diminished by the presence of Joe West.
by rspencer on Oct 5, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe they shouldn't make 50 errors and hit .000 in RISP situations
I could care less who is behind the plate
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
Sure you are
as are we all. But when you seem to suggest that those who differ with you are looking for an excuse, you are the one starting an argument.
Nope. Just my take on the post
Hence I did not reply to anyone.
No big deal.
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
I'd calm down a bit...
West is a bad ump, but he made a crucial call in Game 5 versus New York in 2005 FOR US, calling a Yankee runner out for running inside the base line at first base…remember that?
As bad as West and Hernandez are
You still have to win 3 games to take the series. And since they can only umpire 2 of the games behind the plate, there really should be no disadvantage for either team.
I’m just trying to reassure some people. It’s not that bad. It will be much better that West umps behind the plate in Anaheim where the Boston crowd can’t get in his head.
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
its sucks but...
what are you gonna do?
We just have to leave it all on the field while we fly our flags
buck joe west and doug eddings!
LET’S GO HALOS……DEMAND YOUR RESPECT AND THAT OF YOUR FAN BASE FROM BLOWSUX NATION!!!!
HALOS 8
BLOSUX 5
I CALLED IT!!!
Onward! NO fear! NO Sox! NO way!
BUCK FOSTON!!!!
At least it's not Doug Eddings
That douchebag will rot in hell for what he did to us….I’ll take Joe West anyday
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