The Winner of the 2009 Pregame Picks...
by scottnak on Oct 5, 2009 10:53 PM PDT
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...is... well, first let's take a look at the weeks that have passed, and crown the last 2 "weekly winners"
Week 25 goes to Funke5ive!
Week 26 goes to Zoe Necrosis! Who was just 1 tick away from a perfect week!
Now, 44FAN certainly did not have a flawless week 26, was that enough to let Brew Angel catch up and snatch the crown at the very last second?!
Or did someone else seize the day and rocket up to the top??
Perhaps these Fun Stats can paint a better picture?
Vlad IS my man performed the best in the 2nd half of the Pregame Picks season.
In addition to winning the most individual weeks...
In addition to having the best PPG (Point per game) ratio.
And once again 44FAN was able to tough it out and get the Iron Man award for 2 years running.
That's 324 games in a row, without fail folks. And some people still can't play the game right once.
NOW... the WINNER IS...
... 44FAN! Congratulations! Playing every game certainly paid off, that and having a knack for the prognosticatin'.
Also congrats to Brew Angel with the silver, and vlad IS my man for the bronze.
Hope you had fun, and hopefully we can make this game even better!
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Yay!
80th place after missing the first 18 weeks!
The Big Red Machine V.2 is coming this Fall 2009. Go Halos!
by Slyintine on Oct 5, 2009 10:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thoughts
Having it be an accumulation of points throughout the entire season really turns people off.
For people who can play everyday, like 44Fan, it provides them with too much of an advantage.
I think it should be weekly winners, then most weekly wins at the end of the year win the whole shebang.
Then people will be more encouraged to play (considering how many new people we seem to be getting, it would be nice to include them all) and more fun for people who cannot play everyday.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
by PhiSlamma on Oct 6, 2009 12:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
tune in next season
i like the way you think… …but does the almighty scottnak?
by Rev Halofan on Oct 6, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
reply to Phi
“Having it be an accumulation of points throughout the entire season really turns people off.”
The game is 162 questions about each game of the season, just like the regular baseball season and is reflective of it. The Angels go out and play all 162 games and I have never heard anyone getting turned off. The AL west is determined by which team wins the most games just like the pregame picks, why change it? Pregame Picks is like playing the whole season out on Halos Heaven.
“For people who can play everyday, like 44Fan, it provides them with too much of an advantage.”
This is a lazy excuse Phi. Especially coming from somebody that only bothered to play less than ten percent of the games offered. It takes all of two minutes to make and record your picks. Most of us regular fan members log on to Halos Heaven everyday anyway so it takes just a little extra effort to play this fun game. You can play everyday if you try and desire to do so.
“I think it should be weekly winners, then most weekly wins at the end of the year win the whole shebang.”
If you think it should be weekly winners, then you would still have to play nearly everyday if you want to end up with the most weekly wins by the end. If you play everyday you always have a good chance of winning. Your statement here makes no sense if you honestly think about it.
“Then people will be more encouraged to play (considering how many new people we seem to be getting, it would be nice to include them all) and more fun for people who cannot play everyday.”
What would be the point of having the game then? A game should start, be played by the rules and end with a winner. You are saying people should be allowed to float in and out, play when they feel like it, and end up winning something in the end? Why should the people who play most of the time be handicapped for playing the game right, being committed to it, and supporting it all season long? The game as it is still allows people to play when they want or start later and still find satisfaction in playing the game. The game is a challenge to yourself to get the picks right on a daily basis as much as the accumulation of the year. But you, PhiSlamma, not having played a bulk of games would not realize any of this.
I personally think it is best to keep the game as it is. Your suggestions are interesting but none of them would actually change the results very much if at all. My having played every game probably accounts to less than ten points advantage over the top five players who missed a few games. We are just better at playing the game. If the rules changed we would adapt and continue on our winning ways.
by 44FAN on Oct 6, 2009 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree that you would keep your winning ways
but the number of people who THINK they have a chance would increase, making for greater community participation.
by Rev Halofan on Oct 6, 2009 1:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotcha
plus there is the factor that some of us who live in weird time zones (BST) find it difficult to play every game. In my own case, there was the situation where my laptop was stolen for two months and I simply couldn’t get online to play.
I like the idea of a weekly winner (as Rev says, encouraging MORE participation), plus retaining the overall champion for folks like 44FAN.
By the time I got my new laptop, I was so far behind in the race I had no chance of ever catching up. I kept playing as often as I could because I enjoy the game.
But if there were a weekly winner award, I guarantee I would have played most if not all games (barring the stolen laptop). This just reinforces the Rev’s argument about greater community participation (which is good for the Rev).
Think of the weekly winner award as sort of like winning the Division instead of the WS.
Plus it also sets up the interesting possible scenario of a player winning the most Weekly Winner Awards, but still losing out on the Overall Award.
Don't call me Desmond!
by highlandhalo on Oct 6, 2009 4:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its somewhat shocking that the person who just won is defending the current format.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
by PhiSlamma on Oct 6, 2009 5:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, if you look at ...
Scottnak’s impeccably compiled fun stats, you will see that:
a) Vlad IS my man was Winner of the Week 5 times, compared to 3 apiece of 44FAN, leftwing and sothball.
b) Vlad IS my man was also the overall Halos Heaven leader in Points Earned Per Game (1.4276 ppg), narrowly edging out latecomer opiejeanne (1.4253 ppg) and the Iron Man, 44FAN (1.4012 ppg).
Just another illustration of why additional awards / incentives might make the game more fun. And a greater, even cooler community.
BTW, Congrats 44FAN on a well-earned victory! Well done, Strongest Man in OC.
~ highland
Don't call me Desmond!
by highlandhalo on Oct 6, 2009 5:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So basically what you're saying
Is that 44FAN exceeded his Pythagorean win total, and only won the whole game because he was lucky? :)
We Will Win With What We've Got
by foxpaw on Oct 6, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's lucky I didn't play all 162 games. ;-)
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
by opiejeanne on Oct 6, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even know what a Pythagorean win total IS ....
Don't call me Desmond!
by highlandhalo on Oct 6, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah pretty much
Even though I don’t know what it means. Looking forward to watching /commenting on the games with all of you from Thursday on …
Don't call me Desmond!
by highlandhalo on Oct 7, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a damn good idea ...
A weekly winner would be really fun, and there could be some kind of lame prize each week. Plus of course, you could still crown an overall season-ending champ as well.
Thoughts … almighty scottnak?
Don't call me Desmond!
by highlandhalo on Oct 6, 2009 4:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I AM THE HULA DULA - THE PREGAME PICKS RULA!
Special thanks to scottnak for keeping the Pregame Picks always on track, and neatly sorted out. We could not do it without his labor and I am sure it is more work than it looks like. “And some people still can’t play the game right once.” I love that, LOLcats!
Thanks to Rev Halofan for this fun game and something to do on this site other than read everyone’s fresh garbage everyday. This game is a challenge with its impossible questions and if you delve into it you can learn more about other teams and players just by looking at basic stats on a daily basis to help formulate your guesses. I have become more knowledgeable about players and teams from playing this game the past two and a half years. This is a brilliant game you invented, I can’t believe you are not better at playing it. When I first joined HH, I used to copy your picks thinking you would know what was right — boy I found out quick how wrong a move that was!
For all the rest of my fellow fan members, I won and you did not! For that, you get the famous Fiddle Cat:
by 44FAN on Oct 6, 2009 1:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Special thanks too to Scottnak
and the Rev. And one minor point: The questions were much more interesting / brain-tickling this year than last year. Especially the occasional five pointers, etc …
Don't call me Desmond!
by highlandhalo on Oct 6, 2009 4:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And a silly prize for Winner of the Week might be ...
a) T-shirt?
b) Photoshopped Winner of the Week medal and the right to use it as an avatar for the entire following week.
c) Or maybe Rev could do a cross-promotion with Hooters and the Winner of the Week gets free buffalo wings?
d) A Strike Force girl’s phone number?
:)
Don't call me Desmond!
by highlandhalo on Oct 6, 2009 5:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That's much better than the 1st or 2nd-place prizes now
Which is just the mental satisfaction of a season well-played. And knowing that I’m better than everyone. Except 44Fan.
by Brew Angel on Oct 6, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
option d) doesn't do much for the ladies here, nor the out-of-town players.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
by opiejeanne on Oct 6, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about doing it like NASCAR's "The Chase" or golf's FedEx Cup?
Nah, just kidding. I like it the way it is.
Hooters anyone?
by Chone's Chonies on Oct 6, 2009 6:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh well...
missing 10 games hurt my chances… :[
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
by vlad IS my man on Oct 6, 2009 7:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks
Bro
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
by vlad IS my man on Oct 6, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What??
no medal for 4th, could be pewter, could be wood covered in tin foil, could be……
"You've got red on you"
by Andyman on Oct 6, 2009 8:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Curses! My plans for world domination have been thwarted, thanks to That bloody Limey ...
and everyone else who finished above me! (Congrats 44FAN).
But there’s always next year! And then I’ll show you! I’LL SHOW YOU ALL!!!!
[maniacal laughter] Bwahahahahaha!!!!!!
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
by red floyd on Oct 6, 2009 8:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn that was fun
I’m so happy with my showing, moving up every week from outside of the top 50 to top 30 by the end. I played a LITTLE last season, but I gave more thought to this than my two Fantasy Baseball leagues (I suck at those anyway), and it payed off.
Love the format, don’t change a thing. If you don’t do better, it’s your own fault. Don’t hate the game
Next Season Top 20 Here I come!
RIP Nick Adenhart 8-24-86 - 4-9-09
"Hostility Abounds" 9-17-08
Angel Fan for LIFE 1971 - present / UCLA Class of 2006 - 2nd Generation
by wildwill on Oct 6, 2009 8:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well Done!
This was fun, I wasn’t able to play every game….so be it. This is done for fun, complaining about the format is ridiculous—suggestions for improvements are fine, but unless you are one of the people who put together this site you don’t have any right to bitch!
To all who make this site what it is————-THANKS
by TheGrinch on Oct 6, 2009 9:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Congratulation to 44Fan...
…and I’m sorry that Red Floyd already beat me to the gloating about who is gonna win next year (bwahahaha, yada yada yada, etc).
Oh and thanks for the fiddle cat and the gravity-challenged Mickey Mouse…uh…robot.
by sothball on Oct 6, 2009 1:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Based on points per game, you have to worry about Vlad IS my man.
And me.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
by opiejeanne on Oct 6, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna kick all your asses next year.
And during the playoffs xxx ~ highland
Don't call me Desmond!
by highlandhalo on Oct 7, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh sure...
…try to out-gloat me and RedFloyd. One word…Loser!!!
(Okay…if you want to challenge RedFloyd to a gloating contest, be my guest. 2nd place is assured to one of you.)
by sothball on Oct 7, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol 109 points in the first half.............
11 in the second.
Stupid change in work schedule.
Congrats to the winner(s)!
"In every adversity there lies the seed of an equivalent advantage. In every defeat is a lesson showing you how to win the victory next time." (Robert Collier)
by norcaliangelsfan on Oct 6, 2009 1:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i rather enjoyed that
i’ll be here for the whole season next year though, watch out!
by Scotty G on Oct 6, 2009 2:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yay! I started late, only played 87 games and ended in 53rd place, and second in points per game.
I’m pretty happy with that.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
by opiejeanne on Oct 6, 2009 2:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You did incredibly well, as noted above
But please opiejeanne, during the playoff game threads against (well we know who) our language may become foul. Please forgive us in advance.
Don't call me Desmond!
by highlandhalo on Oct 7, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there going to be a postseason special event?
by Matt UK on Oct 6, 2009 2:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A thank you banquet for the administrators of the site and especially Scottnak?
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
by opiejeanne on Oct 6, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This game kicked ass.
Thanks for dealing with all our crap, scottnak!
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Oct 6, 2009 4:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
To make myself feel better
I am the 2009 HH PGPPPG Leader!!
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
by vlad IS my man on Oct 6, 2009 7:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Scottnak
for all your work you put in during the year.
On a side note – DAMNIT! I had to make a pic opposite of what I thought and of what vlad IS my man had at the end of the season to try and pass him – it was my only shot. But in the meantime – I got passed up for 4th cause of it….SOB! Oh well, Top 5 over the season is a good finish – its my internet claim to fame.
Free Brandon Wood!
by gorams77 on Oct 6, 2009 8:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, I think you made the right choice
But in the meantime – I got passed up for 4th cause of it…
"You've got red on you"
by Andyman on Oct 7, 2009 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good stuff
64th in 2nd half = not too bad. next time, play every day and try to finish in the top 50!!
didn’t crack #100 (101) for the season, but when you only play 31 games, though it seemed like a lot more, that’s going to happen… 1.51 PPG is probably not sustainable for 162, especially with all the 5 point 50/50 games down the stretch. but it still topped the best averages out there for 81+ games, so that’s good to know.
thanks for running it!!
"This is a guy who is a combination of great courage and, nuts!"- Steve Physioc
by Brian S (brianguy) on Oct 7, 2009 11:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I, for one, would appreciate a way that does not depend on Google Apps.
Double entry, being blocked from Google Apps by my employer, and having to contend with those on short notice, just got too tiresome for me to deal with.
The worst thing is the day you realize you want to win more than the players do. - Gene Mauch
by Stirrups on Oct 7, 2009 10:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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