Could Granderson be a smart plan B?
by ihearhowie2.0 on Nov 12, 2009 11:02 AM PST
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PrintSo apparently Detroit is trying to shed payroll and will consider dealing Curtis Granderson, Edwin Jackson, etc. etc.
Now, I know the guy's not exactly young but in the event Figgins leaves and Tony decides to save his resources ($$) for next year's free agent class that will be far superior, does a move for Granderson suddenly become really attractive?
We get an experienced lead off hitter with some pop to replace Figgins, it allows Abreu to shift to the DH (vastly improving our outfield defense) and opens up 3rd base for Brandon Wood.
And more importantly it gives us some pretty comfortable payroll flexibility to work with in-season trades or the aforementioned 2010 free agent class.
Granderson - RF
Abreu - DH
Hunter - CF
Morales - 1B
Rivera - LF
Napoli - C
Kendrick - 2B
Wood/Izturis - 3B
Aybar - SS
not too shabby. Good blend of youth and experience. Thoughts?
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other pluses:
30 HR power and I seem to recall him writing in an ESPN blog that Angel Stadium is his favorite place to play in the league.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Nov 12, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Another point.
He could possibly allow us to move Hunter to RF. Torii is amazing in CF, but Granderson would cover A LOT more ground.
Nick would be proud.
by halofan4life on Nov 12, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
would Torii do it though?
or better yet, would Mike?
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
by howiestheman on Nov 12, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
IDK?
But as we all know, Torii’s range is not what it was 4 years ago, and he’s not going to get faster. He might compensate by taking even better routes to balls, but I think that would only get him so far.
Nick would be proud.
by halofan4life on Nov 12, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
that is not going to happen
Until his leg falls off and he is a liability in Cf he will not be moved.
Remember even in the end they weren’t going to change Michael Jordans role to facilitator, not shooter.
You never move a legend.
Even if the legend is loosing it, it is part of the perks of becoming a legend
Quit Bitching about Wood not playing, The guy does deserve his shot but quit pretending that we have Willie Mays riding the pine
by Sinatrasratpack on Nov 13, 2009 7:48 AM PST up reply actions
That's because he kills The Angels every time he plays here
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
What I think it amazing in your lineup...
…is that you preserved every player without a single regular being moved in a trade!
Of course, Granderson would be coming in a trade though, and given his youth and reasonable contract, Detroit would want a fair amount back: precisely the players like Wood, Rivera or Napoli that you have plugged into that lineup.
The Tigers will be selling low on Granderson
I personally don’t care that he’s young and affordable. He might be worth Rivera straight up or Napoli plus a mid level prospect, but I wouldn’t throw in Wood with his potenital (I know, that word rubs some people wrong) Who is far more affordbale and locked up for much longer period of time. Adding Wood to a trade for Granderson, IMO, is selling low on Wood.
Nick would be proud.
by halofan4life on Nov 13, 2009 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
possibly
or they could want minor league talent and pitching. Theyre clearly looking for a rebuild. Juan Rivera is a guy you’d acquire to bolster a contender, not kick-start a rebuild.
Wood I see happening, but my theory was based on figgins leaving so I couldnt see the Angels letting figgins go AND trade Wood in the same offseason and effectively leave 3rd base to Izturis and his hamstrings for a full season.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Nov 13, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
"Clearly looking to rebuild"?
How do you figure that?
With no changes at all to the roster, the team has at least a $100M payroll for 2010 (by contrast, the Angels are looking at $77M guaranteed for 2010 right now, including the Abreu signing AND the $5M owed to Speier).
Granderson is just $5.5M of that 2010 total, so he alone won’t cause the team to shed costs and start over. The Tigers have a $20M+ commitment to MigCab (through 2014), Carlos Guillen for the next two years @ $13M per, Mags for $18M this season plus $15M in 2011 if he stays healthy, and Bonderman, Willis, and Robertson for $35M collectively this year. Edwin Jackson has Year 2 of his arbitration, and figures to score a nice raise from his $2.2M in 2009.
Trading Granderson might open up a slot for a cheaper player, but the team has a long, long way to go in dropping contracts before it can claim to be “rebuilding”.
"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon
by George Kaplan on Nov 13, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
It's like the Cubs of the AL
"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon
by George Kaplan on Nov 13, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
But what will he cost?
Granted he didn’t put up the same numbers last year as the year prior. But I’m sure he wont be cheap.
Nick would be proud.
interesting possibility...
but would the Tigers be selling low? he had a bad year in every category last year except HRs (where he set a new career high). he’s young, plays solid defense, and could be a very capable lead-off hitter, especially on our club. and, he’s signed to a pretty reasonable contract.
it’s something i would explore, but what would the Tigers want in return?
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
BR took a look at him today
not a whole lot of good, but there are some useful stats -
his OPS has declined from .913 to .780 over the last 3 years.
his BA dropped from .302 to .249 over the same span
his walk % decreased from 11.4 to 10.2 over the last 2 seasons.
maybe he needs some Bobby Abreu to kick him in the right gear….
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
Maybe someone should remind him of his speed.
It’s like he has Willie "Mays" Hayes syndrome
That made me laugh
Nick would be proud.
by halofan4life on Nov 12, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
yeah i lol'd at that too
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
by howiestheman on Nov 12, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
Then I say no.
With his production falling over the last two years (he can still be REALLY good). The offer starts with Bell or O’Sully.
Nick would be proud.
by halofan4life on Nov 12, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Hes locked up for a while, 2013 I believe.
why would they sell low? Saunders would give them a very good LHP, maybe a Saundo/Bourjos/Ortega. I dont think its much of a package, but Saundo would be huge for them.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Nov 12, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Saunders is also just entering arbitration I believe.
And the only thing that has gone up with Granderson is his power numbers. Everything is else has gone down, and not just a little down, A LOT down. Near .200 points down in OPS, BA down by .050 points and his walk rate has gone down. If he were a middle of the order hitter not THAT big of a problem, but he;s a leadoff hitter, and should approach his at bats as such.
I wouldn’t give up anything ML level for him. Maybe ML ready (Bell, O’Sully) or someone who can make the club by mid next year (Ortega, Bourjos). But I am not giving up a plus arm in Saunders Who has gotten better each year (discounting for injury issue last year) for a player, who may be entering his prime, but isn’t performing like the kind of player he was projected to perform like.
Nick would be proud.
by halofan4life on Nov 12, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, huge decline from last year.
I like Granderson, I think he would do well here, but I think lead off kids like Granderson dont come that often. Thats why I’d go after him, but I wouldnt be disappointed if we didnt get him.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Nov 12, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
That sounds about right
Although 95% of the HH community will want to start with GMJ and throw in Quinlan, although he is a FA, as a sweetner.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
by PhiSlamma on Nov 12, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Unfortunately.
Does Detroit need a slightly used left handed closer type? What would they give us for Arrendondo, Fuentes, and Matt Brown…
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
Well
my take is that other teams know of Dondo’s struggles, so would rate him not so high in value in the trading market. Fuentes’ struggles are well documented, and Matt Brown had a tremendously awful year in AAA.
So, maybe, they could get us Zumaya, Clasper Wells, and a share of Detriots crippled economy.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
We all pay taxes
We’ve already emptied our pockets for their crippled economy.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
I'm actually writing an essay on Detroit
as a city. Really sad story.
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Nov 13, 2009 7:18 AM PST up reply actions
I've heard.
I heard real estate is super cheap.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
i can get an 8 bedroom house
with 5 bathroom
29,000
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Nov 14, 2009 7:41 AM PST up reply actions
Or Phelan or Hesperia or Baker or Lucerne Valley...
Come to think of it, the entire high desert in San Bernardino County. ;)
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
ahhh home...
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
by howiestheman on Nov 16, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
maybe we can add chili davis and dallas mcpherson to spice it up
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Nov 12, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
Would need a platoon
ESPN’s rumor central mentioned this a couple days ago but Granderson hit a wonderful .183 against lefties last year. I wouldn’t want to give up anyone of significance for someone who has to sit against a LHP.
by HaloFanInDC on Nov 12, 2009 12:01 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
He might make sense, but
a couple negatives stand out to me; 1) He hit a career high home runs last season, but his slugging percentage dropped. The “Willie Mays Hayes” comment is probably true as it seems he hit a bunch of flyballs that either left the park or were an out. He hit almost as many flyballs as he did linedrives and groundballs combined. 2) As a leadoff hitter last season, he had an OBP of .319. That’s awful.
The good news is his career OBP as a leadoff hitter is .345 (not great, but better than 2009) and his FB/GB/LD numbers for 2009 didn’t match his career numbers. He might have gotten “homer happy” last season.
If 2009 was just a flukey season, yeah look into getting him. If he’s developed some bad habits that won’t go away…forget him.
Man oh man
do we need a leadoff hitter who has a .319 OBP.
Imagine the whining the first week when people start watching the games and actually realize what that means.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
His awful numbers last year were largely a result of a dismal BABIP
that was 40 points off his 08 year. I think you are right, he probably did fall in love with the long ball last year and was also very unlucky and we should expect his numbers to be more in line with his 2008 season when he had a .317 BABIP.
The real problem with Granderson, as some people have pointed out, is his inability to hit LHP as evidenced by his extreme platoon splits.
NA 34
You consider .345 OBP for a leadoff man "good news"?
It’s not much better than league average.
If Granderson could reproduce his 2007-8 seasons every year, maybe, but there’s no indication he can. Lately he looks like Jermaine Dye, only a Jermaine Dye who can’t hit lefties for crap, and who strikes out 40-50 times more a year.
What part of "not great, but better than 2009" did you not understand?
Did you even read that part?
The “good news” is his career OBP is better than what he showed last season.
But his career OBP still blows donkeys for a leadoff man.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
Granderson is not an everyday player
He’s a platoon player with above average defense. Granderson hit just .183/.245/.239 against lefthanded pitching this year. An ugly .500 OPS against lefties is not what you expect from someone in the lineup everyday.
damn....i took just a quick glance at the title of this post
and thought it said “could G Anderson be a smart plan B?” wheeew….
At least you weren't too lazy to look.
Nick would be proud.
by halofan4life on Nov 12, 2009 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
No, not at all...
He is a plus defender with power and patience. The exact opposite of Juan Pierre.
RIP Nick...
Jim Scully
Jim Scully Home
Curtis Granderson doesn't have patience
Just because he has more BB doesn’t mean he has patience and Granderson fails to put the ball into play like a leadoff guy should. Pierre doesn’t K as much. Granderson has about 100+ more per season. Pierre has more BB in his career then strikeouts. Hard to find those guys. Plus Pierre plays that speed game more then Granderson which fits more with the style of the Angels then the other. With that said I am not asking for Pierre to be the Angel leadoff hitter
I mentioned the power in my statement and to say Pierre isn’t a plus defender is not true. He has a very weak arn as does Granderson. My point was they are both leadoff guys that bat left handed and are same in size and weight
by Angel Aviator on Nov 13, 2009 6:31 PM PST up reply actions
Juan Pierre doesn't have patience.
Juan Pierre averages 38 walks per 686 plate appearances in his career. That’s horrible. Granderson is no Bobby Abreu but he does average a respectable 66 walks per 696 career plate appearances, much better than Pierre.
Yes, Granderson does strike out a lot but that’s because he swings to drive the ball because he CAN. Juan Pierre has no other choice than to be a contact hitter because his skills are tailor made for that. He has a lot of speed and zero power.
Granderon may not have stellar OBP’s but they aren’t horrible either. And they are always pretty decent relative to his batting average. His OBP was down in 2009 because his BA was down. OBP is a function of BA as well as BB’s and sometimes people seem to forget that.
If you look at 2007 and 2008 when Granderson hit well (.302 and .280 respectively), he had solid OBP’s (.361 and .365 respectively).
And for the last two season’s, he has had over 70 walks, which is pretty good.
"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana
by Chzburger Jones on Nov 15, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, what Chzburger Jones said...
I was away for a few days so I didn’t see this response.
Granderson is 5x the player that Juan Pierre is. Putting the ball into play is useless if all you do is ground out or pop up. At least when Granderson puts the ball in play it gets to the outfield and, about 20+ times a year, goes OVER the fucking fence!
Pierre is a slap hitter because he can’t drive the ball and the fact that he walks more than he strikes out is worthless if Pierre only walks 30 times a year.
Granderson >>> Pierre. Any metric that says otherwise is useless.
RIP Nick...
Jim Scully
Jim Scully Home
Now THERE is something sure to go on Granderson's resumé
Granderson >>> Pierre.
"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon
by George Kaplan on Nov 16, 2009 3:04 AM PST up reply actions
Worthless??
You have been away a lot longer then a few days…
Guy has had 4 seasons of 200+ hits and fell just shy another year with 196. He plays everyday and goes hard. He has also lead the league in SB’s a few times. Hard to do that if you aren’t on base!
Lets not forget that he is also a World Series winner with good postseason numbers..much better then Granderson. I wouldn’t toss Pierre in the scrap heap
by Angel Aviator on Nov 18, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
I like Curtis Granderson, I really do.
But I think he would cost too much and the last thing we need is another OFer. The timing isn’t right IMO.
"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana
by Chzburger Jones on Nov 13, 2009 12:44 AM PST reply actions
It's Ken Davidoff in Newsday
Story here.
Money quote:
According to a person in the loop, the Angels and Tigers have conversed about a Granderson trade, even though the Angels already have an All-Star centerfielder in Torii Hunter. The Angels are interested in playing Granderson in leftfield and either trading Juan Rivera or moving him to designated hitter.
Rivera, the one-time Yankees prospect, put together a presentable 2009 season, hitting 25 homers with a .332 on-base percentage and .478 slugging percentage as he earned $3.25 million in the first season of a three-year deal.
Yet he hit poorly in the 2009 postseason, putting together a .222 on-base percentage and .278 slugging percentage. And while his outfield defense scored well by sabermetric counts, he might be best remembered for failing to get to a seemingly catchable, game-winning single by Boston’s Alex Gonzalez on Sept. 16 in a 9-8 loss to the Red Sox.
When asked if he had spoken with Detroit about Granderson, Angels general manager Tony Reagins wrote back in an e-mail, “I do not have a comment on this one.” The 2009 Angels fielded a lineup that was not very imposing against righthanded pitchers; Granderson would help provide some balance.
I was cool with the story on its concept, but Davidoff is just plain wrong on so many facts. First, the part about Rivera’s alleged failure to make the catch in Boston. That smells of a guy who is reporting on something he heard about, not something he witnessed or understood. This is important, as it is being used as a reason why the Angels would consider moving Rivera, either to DH (which would express dissatisfaction with his defense) or off the team altogether. For the record, Rivera had 11 assists in 2009.
Furthermore, it wasn’t as if he suddenly stopped hitting in the postseason. From Sept 1 through the end of the regular season, he posted .216/.304/.363, with 4 HR over those 5 weeks. He had cooled off long before the season ended, which would surprise nobody who’s paid attention to Rivera and understood he is very streaky.
Then, the idea that the Angels were not strong against right-handed pitching. Seems to me that when a righty was on the mound, Morales was batting LH and that is the side with more power (his slugging % is 115 points higher against RH pitching). Likewise, Figgins was a much better hitter from his left side, as are Izturis and Aybar. In fact, the team as a whole for the entire season hit almost identically versus righties (.285/.353/.440) as lefties (.286/.342/.446).
Davidoff might be right in his reporting specifically about Granderson and some interest on the part of the Angels, but he seems otherwise to simply be parroting the ideas of others who don’t follow the team very closely at all.
"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon
by George Kaplan on Nov 13, 2009 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
remember
Everyone loves to point out past numbers as indicators of future returns.
This is good to use as a guide, not as a valid or accurate indicator.
Remember, people can change, locations matter, confidence matters, and clubhouse matters.
Maybe a switch from cold weather and windy to warm and pleasant matter to him, he is a good clubhouse guy. he plays really good defense, he has some pop. it gives us flexability, and people somehow just assume he will be a leadoff guy. what if we keep Figgy, and don’t sign Vlad, a real possibility.
Now you have Granderson in LF, Figgy at 3b, Rivera in Rf (his natural position) and abreu DH’ing and this is you new lineup
Figgy
Abreu
Hunter
Morales
HK (to get some baserunners on)
Rivera
Napoli
Granderson
Aybar
Now you have 3 lead off hitters in a row.
Grandersons poor lefty split isnt a huge issue (we can put GMJ or willits in LF and sit Granderson every once in awhile against lefties)
his pop can clear the bases, no pressure on him to do it all like in Detroit.
and Hatcher and Scioscia can work with him
If he gave us a .265 avg, 24 Hr, 70 RBI, 25 steals, and 9-10 triples while playing good defense…isn’t that a winner?
Quit Bitching about Wood not playing, The guy does deserve his shot but quit pretending that we have Willie Mays riding the pine
by Sinatrasratpack on Nov 13, 2009 8:00 AM PST reply actions
We arent going to resign Figgins
For serious
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
for cereal
lets be serial
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Nov 13, 2009 8:46 AM PST up reply actions
Here's an idea if we don't re sign Figgy.
Move Abreu to leadoff and put HK in the 2 hole.
Abreu
HK
Hunter
Morales
Rivera
Granderson
Mathis/Napoli
Wood
Aybar
Granderson’s power potential protects Rivera, and if you think the 7th and 8th spot is no good just move Granderson down one and Matholi up one. Allows Wood to have a less stressful lineup spot. I’m really starting to like the idea of Abreu leading off. His fantastic OBP, ability to still steal bases and it gives Aybar another 2 years (maximum) to develop into a speedy leadoff hitter. HK has always had the linedrive and doubles rate of a solid number 2 hitter and just because he struggled last year doesn’t mean that after getting his head screwed on correctly he wont flourish there this year.
If Wood flops, how about this:
Izzy
Abreu
Hunter
Morales
Rivera
HK
Granderson
Matholi
Aybar
Izzy has decent patience and could fit well into the leadoff role and he can always flip with Abreu if he’s not working out there.
Nick would be proud.
by halofan4life on Nov 13, 2009 8:57 AM PST up reply actions
I really dont like HK in the two spot
Kendrick makes contact well enough, but a #2 needs a mix of OBP and doubles power, with some speed mixed in.
Kendrick has 2/3 of those and is missing the OBP. he just needs to show everyone he knows how to take a walk before we put him as a table setter.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
Don't think the cold was an issue
He was raised in the Chicago area went to college in Chicago as well. I know the Angels should never ever NEVER consider any trade that would allow Willits to play a day for the Angels. Understand his 15 minutes of fame is over.
by Angel Aviator on Nov 13, 2009 6:36 PM PST up reply actions
This has GMJ version 2 written all over it...
NO Granderson.
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Nov 13, 2009 10:30 AM PST reply actions
agreed.
Isn’t Granderson a younger, cheaper, version of GMJ?
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
Would rather trade for Carl Crawford
I would rather trade for Crawford over Granderson even though Granderson would probably be a nice addition.
Crawford is in his last year of his current contract
Granderson has 3 years left
Nick would be proud.
by halofan4life on Nov 13, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
TB unloaded a ton of salary in order to sign Crawford
trading Iwamura and Kazmir gives them an additional $15MM to pay Crawford on top of what they already pay him.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
We Need Pitching!
Why are we considering trading away valuable, cheap players for another OF that we don’t need? We’re only one injury away from a serious pitching shortage, and we always seem to have at least one starter injured to start the season. We need a real ACE to replace Lacky (who’s going to be a Yankee or a Red Sox) not trade away Saunders for another GMJ. Hell, we’ve already got a guy hitting 250 with good OF defense. And we’re going to have to pay for him no matter what we do. How about working out a trade for Halladay before NY or Bahston out bids us, and sign him to an extention beyond 2010? Its also rumored that Felix Hernandez might be available. It sure would be nice to have him pitching for us instead of against us!
Agreed
(for the most part). The Mariners aren’t trading Felix anytime soon, and certainly not to a division rival.
But yes, it really makes little sense to obtain one more OF who is having difficulty finding his old stroke. On the other hand, if one subscribes to Davidoff’s idea that the Angels had a hard time hitting righties, then this is a deal which has to be made.
Just not by the Angels.
"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon
by George Kaplan on Nov 13, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
He'd make a great leadoff platoon with Pettit
But the price here would be huge. Granderson was one of the more valuable players in all of baseball in ‘08 and ’07. One bad year doesn’t erase that.
Wood plus a legit pitching prospect for Granderson? It could happen, I guess, but seems one of the more unlikely possibilities of the off season.
I thought Gary Pettit retired
"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon
by George Kaplan on Nov 13, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
He was awesome!
1 line siggy line because I was asked nicely. Go Angels! helpfindscottajob@gmail.com
I think it's Napoli for granderson and...
then Rivera to Atl. for Vasquez.
by thejd on Nov 13, 2009 1:58 PM PST via mobile reply actions
if you could get Vasquez for Rivera
you do it.
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
by howiestheman on Nov 13, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
If you can get Vazquez to an AL West team, period
you do it.
"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon
by George Kaplan on Nov 13, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
It is possible!
But…not probable. ;)
1 line siggy line because I was asked nicely. Go Angels! helpfindscottajob@gmail.com
I think the Angels just need to stick with what they got position player wise
and get some pitching. Go after an Ace, do what it takes, short of trading Wood. Wood has been in the system too long and has proven too much to let him go to another organization and have him mash.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
Granderson
He doesn’t look like a leadoff hitter to me, with 140 plus K’s a year. But 23 triples in a year!!! Would add some excitement to the offense post Figgins, and a lot of balls drop into short left field with our current defense.
I didn’t see Tigers this year: how good is he on defense? Any kind of arm? Obviously he is super fast.
by Steve from Irvine on Nov 13, 2009 6:09 PM PST reply actions
very intriguing
if Figgins leaves, I’d take Granderson over Rivera in left in a heartbeat.
If it wasn't for that one god damned play
in a MEANINGLESS GAME is Bawstin, do you think ANYONE would be worried about our left field defense right now?
Nope
It is an event those who really don’t follow the team point to as supporting evidence in a case they fruitlessly attempt to build.
"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon
by George Kaplan on Nov 15, 2009 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
im thinking more about our right field defense
which was not good
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Nov 15, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
Add:
I think this is the part where I need to remind everyone Rivera had 10 assists in LF (plus one in RF); his 11 total assists were 3rd in all of MLB last season.
Yeah, let’s dump his useless ass right now. Clearly, he is no good in the OF and his arm is crap.
"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon
great BA
during the playoffs
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Nov 15, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
Slump...
Career .238 post season hitter through 105 AB’s.
Can't be any worse than Chone Figgins...
"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana
by Chzburger Jones on Nov 16, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
why do people keep talking about left field?
bobby abreu just got re-signed for 2 years and is a DH waiting to happen once vlad officially departs. that would leave right field open…unless we have another DH or productive outfielder im not aware of.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Nov 15, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
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