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Mount Halos (instead of Mount Rushmore)

As the Angels prepare their 50th season who would you put up on Mount Halo?  Like Mount Rushmore you can use  4 faces.  They can be mascots, owners, players, coaches, anyone related to the Angels. 

Congrats LA Angels (bc original name) on 50 years!

I would put up:

  1. Gene Autry (with cowboy hat)
  2. Mike Scioscia (manager with the only world series, face of franchise)
  3. Nolan Ryan (who would be first to spray paint "F the Rangers" on it, come on like 4 no hitters for the Angels)
  4. Tim Salmon (represents what Angels baseball is all about)

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Mo Vaughn
Shea Hillinbrand
Jose Guillian
Del Rice

**R.I.P. Nick Adenhart**
Angels World Series Champs in 2010 - and the crowd goes crazy-START THE LOOTING

by MOJOJAZZ on Nov 18, 2009 10:05 AM PST reply actions  

We need bootcheck

"Figgins' OBP is still over 40!" -Steve Physioc

by Figgi4life on Nov 18, 2009 3:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Sport Goofy!

What we've got can't be bought

by rspencer on Nov 18, 2009 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

just joking

I would agree with the tops 4 also but if there was a 5th it would be Anderson for me

**R.I.P. Nick Adenhart**
Angels World Series Champs in 2010 - and the crowd goes crazy-START THE LOOTING

by MOJOJAZZ on Nov 18, 2009 10:06 AM PST reply actions  

Gene Autry
Bob Grich
Mike Scioscia
Arte Moreno

RIP NA

by NoDakHalo on Nov 18, 2009 11:04 AM PST reply actions  

PLAYERS ONLY ON MY MOUNT

Fregosi
Downing
Salmon
Vlad

Sorry Nolan, you sold out to the Rangers, they can have ya.

by Rev Halofan on Nov 18, 2009 11:40 AM PST reply actions  

Sold out to the Astros

Nolan signed in Nov 79 with the Astros becoming the first million dollar a year player. Of course i think that blame goes to another but I dont think he sold out to the Rangers as much as they were a team he wanted to play for so he could be close to his family and banks

by Angel Aviator on Nov 18, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

I was so pissed to see the Ranger hat in Cooperstown

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

by Moondoggy on Nov 21, 2009 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Totally OT

I’m reading your Juxtapoz article right now

We are the Los Angeles Angels of the late 2000s

by Higz on Nov 18, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Saw that

Enjoyed the story – I usually just look at the pictures.

We are the Los Angeles Angels of the late 2000s

by Higz on Nov 19, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

is that in a new issue?

What in the wide wide world of sports is uh goin on here???

by AlohaHalofan on Nov 19, 2009 6:51 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

It's the Nov. '09 issue

I think it’s still on sale

We are the Los Angeles Angels of the late 2000s

by Higz on Nov 19, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually no

Probably not still on sale.

We are the Los Angeles Angels of the late 2000s

by Higz on Nov 19, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

if players only....

Grich
Belinsky
Erstad
Joyner

Aw, who am I kidding. Those are just my favorite players.

RIP NA

by NoDakHalo on Nov 18, 2009 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

My 4 would be

Autry
Scioscia
Salmon
and either
Finley (all time wins leader) or Lackey (won game 7 in 2002 and has been the ace for the last few years)

20 years from know I think Arte could possibly replace Autry based on the current outlook for the team.

We're putting the band back togehter.

by billhune on Nov 18, 2009 11:50 AM PST reply actions  

Eckstein, Willits, Patek and Polonia

It’s a wee statue but it hustles.

2011: The year of Angels World Domination

by LazorkoRules on Nov 18, 2009 12:16 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

i would also make

mine an all player monument. owners/managers/bat boys i would honor in a dif way.

-Salmon
-Finley
-GA
-Downing

me and the wonder dog got high!

by YOUknowulovetheIE on Nov 18, 2009 1:33 PM PST reply actions  

It's time to jettison the Cowboy

Gene Autry was a swell guy, especially if you were a baseball player looking for a drink, or Southern California baseball fan looking for a non-Dodgers team, but he was ultimately not a very good manager of people, nor did he have anything like a coherent/consistent approach to putting together baseball teams. Autryfilia has its origins in the right place, and has had its place in the development of Angel fandom, but these days it can border on Field of Dreams-style nostalgia. If we are to have an owner on Rushmore, make it Arte. I for one will wait until he wins his first ring, until which time:

Jim Fregosi
Nolan Ryan
Tim Salmon
Mike Scioscia

by mattwelch on Nov 18, 2009 1:43 PM PST reply actions  

A historic event

My first vehement disagreement with Matt Welch in these pages, or for that matter anywhere on the Intertubes. Gene Autry may have been was a poor judge of baseball FO talent, but not a very good manager of people? That is a wild overstatement that I humbly submit suggests ignorance of his career as a businessman.

What we've got can't be bought

by rspencer on Nov 18, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough

But I wouldn’t discount his lasting positive influence on the team’s character.

Some time ago now, I attended a reunion of the personnel from the glory days of radio station KMPC, the flagship radio station of Autry’s Golden West Broadcasters. From the mid-Fifties to the mid-Seventies, it was one of the premier stations in the country, the pioneer of what was called “personality radio.” In attendance, among others, were Gary Owens and Johnny Grant. The discussion kept coming back to Autry and his strong influence on the station. The various personalities painted an identical picture of Autry as do the people in the Angels organization who worked or played under him: of a man who cared about his people as people, who established a strong sense of family in the organization.

Gene Autry was a class act, and established an institutional classiness in the Angels organization that survived the Disney interregnum (thanks in large part, it seems to me, to Tim Mead). Now, it is a sad fact that this classiness did not translate into a winning tradition under Autry, and in this sense you have a good point. His loyalty to his people, a strength in an area where his judgments of talent were sound, was a liability in baseball. Nevertheless, I submit that the Autry influence on the internal organization provided fertile ground for Stoneman and Scioscia to start to nurture a winning tradition, and it is to Arte’s everlasting credit that he built upon the Autry influence, changing what needed changing surgically rather than blowing everything up.

I would not take anything away from Arte; he has Autry’s business acumen combined with good baseball sense. I’m just saying that without the Autry influence he would have had a lot more work to do to bring the organization to where it is today. Gene’s stamp is still on the organization, and I hope it always will be.

A sidebar to the KMPC story: although Autry divested all of Golden West Broadcasters’ stations before his passing, Johnny Grant continued to be paid by the company (a salary and the rent on his Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel penthouse) for the rest of his life, decades after he last worked for them. Autry took care of his Army buddies.

What we've got can't be bought

by rspencer on Nov 18, 2009 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for that

Autry’s building of KMPC, and of Angel broadcasting overall, is one (important) area where he shames Arte in comparison.

by mattwelch on Nov 19, 2009 7:38 AM PST up reply actions  

mine

Salmon, Scioscia, Vlad, Autry

R.I.P.N.A.

by TheAngelsAngels on Nov 18, 2009 2:20 PM PST reply actions  

Mine:

Randy Velarde
Dave Hollins
Rex Hudler
Lance Parrish

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Nov 18, 2009 3:08 PM PST reply actions  

I get the last 3

but Randy Velarde?

What we've got can't be bought

by rspencer on Nov 18, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

All taller than Spike Owen.

Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.

by Stirrups on Nov 19, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

You noticed a pattern?

I pulled 4 random mediocre 90s Angels out of my ass as a joke. No rhyme or reason. If you noticed something, my hat’s off to you.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Nov 19, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Random, yes. Mediocre, no.

Lance Parrish was never mediocre at anything. An excellent ballplayer.

2011: The year of Angels World Domination

by LazorkoRules on Nov 19, 2009 6:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Since this is a discussion of honoring HALO greats

it’s worth noting that Parrish had a 101 OPS+ with the Angels…the very definition of mediocre.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Nov 19, 2009 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

any catcher with that

is far more valuable than say any infielder or outfielder … and Parrish was a GREAT catcher.

by Rev Halofan on Nov 19, 2009 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

He was here for like 2-3 years

and was an average hitter during only one season while here.

Don’t get me wrong, he was a good player.

But his days as an Angel? Not exactly eminently memorable, nor was the length of his stint. Just like Velarde or Hollins. Hell, Velarde OPS+ed 105 from the Angels over a similar period of time, and that’s from weak-hitting 2nd base.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Nov 19, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Mt. Halo

Gene Autry
Nolan Ryan
Mike Scioscia
Jimmie Reese

by Baylorsgroove on Nov 18, 2009 3:51 PM PST reply actions  

The G-Force!

Garret
Guerrero
Guillen
Glaus

Remember when FSW tried to get that going but it never quite caught on?

by gary matthews jr. jr. on Nov 18, 2009 4:02 PM PST reply actions  

I remember it

and it did catch on, sorta. It’s just that, very early on in the season two of those Gs (Glaus and Garret) were gone by May 11th, Glaus missing almost 100 games, and Garret a month and a half (and never fully recovering to this day).

If they had all stayed healthy? Man, that would have been a hell of a year.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Nov 18, 2009 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Mt. Halo

Rally Monkey
Torii Hunter
Random Strike Force Girl
Mike Napoli holding a can of Bud-lite.

The 2009 Pregame Picks Winner and Iron Man of Halos Heaven.com

by 44FAN on Nov 18, 2009 5:34 PM PST reply actions  

We need to somehow add Ervin Santana in there

With a bloody tissue in his nose saying “F**k it lets pitch”

by ryanfea on Nov 18, 2009 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

quinlan quinlan quinlan and quinlan

just to piss me off.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Nov 19, 2009 12:08 AM PST reply actions  

4 Luis Polonias

We all read the interview. I’m now convinced he’s the best player ever to take the field.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart - Always an Angel

by Kernel on Nov 19, 2009 7:52 AM PST reply actions  

How come people rarely bring up our first MVP or Cy Young winner?

Baylor and Chance deserves some credit, wouldn’t you think?

Fregosi for both playing and managing.

I mean, the Angels existing before the arrival of Tim Salmon, people.

2011: The year of Angels World Domination

by LazorkoRules on Nov 19, 2009 6:08 PM PST reply actions  

Baylor played for the Red Sox

1986 took him off the mantle.

While Chance was the greatest pitcher for the Angels in the 1960s he was not with the team long enough to accrue any top ten counting stat records, nor was he the top Angels rate pitcher of his era, topped by Andy Messersmith in most categories.

In answere to your question, they don’t get brought up because they are further down the list than you might realize.

by Rev Halofan on Nov 19, 2009 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

my four

my four would be
autry
scioscia
salmon
and guerrero
just my opinion…

by Gold Glove Hunter 48 on Nov 19, 2009 10:55 PM PST reply actions  

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