Angels 2010 Season Seat Prices
by MYSPASCOBAR on Nov 28, 2009 1:28 PM PST
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Printno word on the diamond club, but here is 2010's prices for season seat holder, not counting your all star game tickets. some prices went down - i bolded those sections for you, they are all the cheap seats.
dugout mvp: $85 (was $80)
field hall of fame: $70 (was $67)
field mvp: $62 (was $59)
terrace mvp: $48 (was $45)
lower field all star: $47 (was $43)
field all star: $43 (was $35)
field preferred: $37 (was $36)
lower field box: $36 (was $35)
terrace all star: $33 (was $29)
field box: $28 (was $27)
terrace preferred: $26 (was $24)
terrace box: $21 (was $24)
lower view mvp: $23.50 (was $23.00)
lower view all star: $11 (was $11.50)
view mvp: $10 same price
lower view box: $8.50 same price
view all star: $7 same price
right field mvp: $13 (was $15)
right field pavilion: $9 (was $10.50)
left field pavillion is not open to season seats
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They have finally priced me out
Season ticket holder since 04 in Terrace All Star and now they raise prices (again) 10+%. Time to give up my seats. I will now be one of the ones to buys seats below face on game day.
Also, looks like they added a couple sections (field preferred and terrace preferred).
Thats probably what I'll do
I just don’t understand what their deal is. This season, I couldn’t even get face value on Stubhub for most games and now this. Its crazy…I never thought they would raise prices so much. I understand raising prices, but how about limiting it to 5% or less a year. There have been multiple years of these kind of increases. My friends in field all star are giving up their seats as well… 23% increase there. The season ticket holder base is going to absolutely collapse in 2011 after the All Star game.
But yeah, I’ll probably move up to lower view. I wish I would have known a few years ago that they were going to keep raising prices like this. If I had known, I would have bought the cheaper seats all along. If it weren’t for the All Star Game, I would probably just buy on Stubhub day of game.
by HungryHunter on Nov 28, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
It's all a difference in perspective...
I just got my season ticket invoice today and as a seat holder in the cheapest seats they have (view all star), I can’t complain since my seats haven’t gone up in price. I understand being unhappy about the prices being raised, but there are certainly alternatives and the angels are just trying to price discriminate with the different seating sections as effectively as they can so they can maximize their revenue.
I can’t fault the Angels for trying to make more money, and I respect the fact that there are (imho) respectable and cheaper alternatives for people in HungryHunter’s situation.
One more small point of order: in some of the cheaper sections, if you don’t buy 4 or more seats, the price is higher by a few dollars per seat.
Stub Hub
I think the goal of the Angels is to push people who stubhub a big chunk of their games into cheaper seats in order to stubhub the good seats themselves.
Which is what I would do if I were in charge of ticketing strategy.
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
Sadly as I mention below, StubHub Sucked for me this year.
I guess people just don’t get that we’re often selling tickets for less than what we bought them for, let alone well less than they can buy day of game.
Every time I see a line at the ticket office I tell people to go to StubHub.
by MidwayCityLivestock on Dec 1, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
yeah Im a stubhub cheapskate
I am all about buying seats for as little as possible. I looked at buying season seats but they are just too expensive for seats I would want to sit in all season. You can almost always buy them on the angels site for 50% off and I get some great deals on stubhub. It just takes luck and persistence.
by Balls and Strikes on Dec 2, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
My seats
Has gone up, but I I am not worried about it. Already sent my deposit in.
I am just hoping that the Angels can keep the team together or get some good players that can help the Angels to another Postseason. I want to be at another World Series!
RE: some prices went down ... they are all the cheap seats.
I am renewing my View MVP seats and I noticed a substantial price INCREASE.
Those prices you listed that either stayed or went down in the cheap seats only apply to those who buy 4 or more tickets. As I only buy 2, my View MVP seats went up $2 per seat to $12/game. That’s a 20% increase!
Other Sections that have that incentive (along with “less than 4” price):
Lower View-All Star: $12.00
View MVP: $12.00
Lower View Box: $11.50
View All-Star: $11.00
Right Field MVP: $18.00
Right Field Pavilion: $15.00 (By far the largest price increase over the $/game price for 4 or more tickets)
Moral of the story? They hiked prices BIG TIME in the cheap seats to nail all the “Johnny-Come-Lately-only-buying-tickets-to-get-All-Star-priority” people… and myself.
I’m Paying ~$400 more total for the same seats that I could barely sell for $8 on Stubhub (which comes out to around $6.50 per ticket, a nice $3.50 less than I bought them for… FUCK!!!)
by MidwayCityLivestock on Dec 1, 2009 12:12 PM PST reply actions
I take it that you calculate resale revenue opportunities heavily into your justification for buying season tix?
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
Not at all... I probably went to at least 60 of my 81 games (not to mention around 25-30 Dodger games with my Dodger Season tix holder best friend).
It’s why I practically disappear during the regular season each year. But with the increase in cost, I’m going to have to be much more active in re-selling my tickets in order to recoup the $2,000 I’m paying, not to mention whatever the All-Star week will cost. And since there’s no way in Hell I’m NOT going to every event for All-Star week, this coming season will likely be:
$2,000 for tix
$500-$800 for All-Star
$2,500 for Post-Season.
I’d be lying if I said I didn’t try to sell more of my tix, but there were several occasions where I had tix on sale on several sites, and couldn’t sell for less than I bought them for.
by MidwayCityLivestock on Dec 1, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
But then you write
“I’m going to have to be much more active in re-selling my tickets in order to recoup the $2,000 I’m paying…”
If you are NOT calculating resale revenue into your season ticket expense, or using that revenue to help justify the expense, then why would you need to be “more active” to “recoup the $2000 [you’re] paying…”?
Recoup implies that you are trying to make up for a loss. But purchasing the seats is a fair exchange of goods and services for a price. Unless you are seeing the ownership of seats as a loss, there is nothing to recoup.
For the record, I am not passing any value judgements here. I am just asking questions into your mindset. I find the whole topic of economics behind season tickets to be particularly fascinating, especially as the market continues to make transitions into an online real-time exchange. Teams hold a rare commodity – a valued seat at desireable event – and offer it up for a market rate. The more they underprice that item, the more potential profit they leave in the hands of the party to whom they sold that item. The Internet has greatly improved the intial buyer’s ability to realize that idle profit potential, just as it has enabled the team to track that profit once it is eventually realized. It is only natural and fair that the team takes some actions to partake in that additional profit available for what is, at the end of the day, their product.
So here we are. Now the initial buyers are finding themselves slowly engaging in a battle of wits and strategy over the initial purchase. Teams WANT to sell vast quantities of tickets up front to lock in the revenue. But they do not want to pursue that secondary profit so hard as to inhibit the number of season tickets sold since that impacts how much reveune they can lock up early. Teasm are trying to find a market balance.
Meanwhile, initial buyers are contending with the value propositions surrounding the investment, dealing with human emotions that drive actions, and seeking creative ways to restore some secondary market and continue to chase that idle profit independent of the team.
Fascinating stuff. Just fascinating.
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
Hmmm, I guess what I'm trying to say is that I would buy my tix no matter what.
I guess that’s why I say that re-sale does not factor into the decision for me at all, it doesn’t matter if I could re-sell them at ANY price, I’d still buy them
But the cost is so far out of my yearly budget, that I will need to find a way to recoup in order to continue to justify the purchase. I’m at the point where the cost is forcing me to realize that I will need to be more active in the 3rd party market
I am single and paying for these tix by myself. Buying 4 tix just to get the reduced price is not an option because of both the price and the fact that the 3rd party market was as bad as it was last season.
I completely understand the dynamic of that delicate balance. Tix cheap enough to keep people buying, but expensive enough to try to make as much of that “extra money” as possible. Sadly, that “extra money” just isn’t there. Not last year at least..
by MidwayCityLivestock on Dec 1, 2009 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
We're in the same position
My brother and | try to sell any unused seats every year. We generally sell the Friday Big Bang games, Yankee/Red Sox games, a few |Sunday game and eat the rest. But we have always out a half hearted haklf assed effort into it. We’re pot in the business of re-selling tickets, but we try to get our money back on the games we don’t attend.
Last year, the Angels screwed us (and every other season ticket holder) with their recession specials. I expect that will happen again. So once again we will eat most of the games and be vilififed for charging a premium for the premium games. sigh.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
The Unsaid
If you wanna run with the Big Dogs….
Angels weighted average ticket price in 2009: $20.05
Yankees weighted average ticket price in 2009: $72.97
Red Sox weighted average ticket price in 2009: $50.24
In the AL, only Kansas City ($19.38), TB ($18.35), Texas ($19.41) and Toronto ($19.10) have lower ticket prices.
There is a disconnect between what you’ve been paying and the quality you have been receiving.
Signed: The Market
Driven into right-center field, Erstad says he has it...the Angels, world champions!
I'm sure that if they felt they could sell out with higher prices, they would do so
Charging higher prices and making more per game on ticket sales to 3/4 full parks is short sighted as the lost revenue from food, foam fingers, and rally monkeys as well as a smaller fan base will hurt more in the long run (just a WAG…no emperical…do not hurt me)
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
If you build it, they will come.
It’s not the zero-sum game you describe. Or, at least, Arte & Co. are banking on it not being. The logical business plan would be to work at increasing ticket prices and the number of butts in seats. To do this successfully you need to market well (read: Win, sign stars!) and have a large enough audience to market to (don’t run out of targets with enough money to do what you’re asking them to).
This is LA/Orange County. The environment is rich with potential bandwagoners new fans who are, well, rich enough to pay WAY more than current ticket prices.
Caution dictates that changes take place slowly. But given current MLB economics change is inevitable. Franchises are rapidly self-identifying as ‘haves’ and ‘have nots’. You either move up to the elite class – if you can, if you have enough potential market – or you join the growing number of teams that face April with minimal hope.
Driven into right-center field, Erstad says he has it...the Angels, world champions!
two years ago, you were absolutely right
While LA/OrangeCo have plenty of people with plenty of money, I know several of those types who are downsizing now that they only enormously wealthy instead of obscenely enormously wealthy.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
Dodger fans, no doubt.
Driven into right-center field, Erstad says he has it...the Angels, world champions!
No, but they have Diamond Club seats
which is sort of like being a Dodger fan
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
Average Attendance
Average Attendance has been down every year since 2005. I would also make the argument that season ticket numbers are being artificially held up because of the All Star Game. I’ll go so far as to predict that average attendance will be around 38,000 in 2011 IF they win the west.
Aren’t ticket sales revenue a small percentage of overall revenue anyway?
by HungryHunter on Dec 2, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
I believe we actually had the highest attendance in 2006, did we not?
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Also, are you that guy that keeps calling in to Biggs and predicting a 25,000 attendance per game if we don't trade Wood?
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Gate receipts are ~58% of Yankees revenues...
~65% of Red Sox revenues
~32% of Angels revenues
Average attendance has been down every year since 2005
While almost technically correct – I think the peak year was ’06 @ 3.406M – the inference is misleading. Fan attendance late in this decade represents HUGE growth over early in the decade – which represents HUGE growth over the previous decade. The delta between 2000 and 2009 is more than 1.4M fans per year (positive). The ~100K decrease in ’09 is a rounding error in comparison and can be attributed to the state of the economy in general.
In business gibberish (bibberish?), the relatively flat attendance numbers from ’04 through ’09 would likely be considered the consolidation of a higher revenue threshold.
IMO the bottom line is this: The Angels cannot in the long run continue to be one of the top spending teams while also being the third cheapest in the league in terms of Fan Cost Index.
If we want Lackey and Figgins (and Halladay and Bay and …) we might eventually get them – or others like them. We’ll pay for them though. And we shouldn’t be surprised by it.
Driven into right-center field, Erstad says he has it...the Angels, world champions!
I love the Halos, but I doubt they would be so popular if they tried to charge Yankee/Red Sox rates for seats.
This is SoCal. The beaches are free, and the girls there are practically naked.
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
But at the stadium they won't get sand in their hoo-haa.
Usually.
Driven into right-center field, Erstad says he has it...the Angels, world champions!
Beware of the sandbox behind the centerfield fence at Petco Park!
Five dollars in advance ($7.00 the day of the game) gets you the Park in the Park standing room only ticket at Padre games. You are allowed in the sandbox during batting practice. Yes, I have seen sand at a ballpark just down the road (I-5) from the Big A!
Does anyone know how the all-star tickets will be sold?
I presume season ticket holders will have a preference, but I don’t know if we’ll get our seats or if we’ll be limited on how many we’ll be able to get.
When it was at the Stadium in NY, season ticket holders could buy as many as seats they owned and while there may have been some displacement, my friends sat in their seats. Just wondering.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
Same deal this year
There’s a note on the All-Star Game flyer I received with my renewal packet that said we’re limited to the # of seats we own for the season. I wonder if they will have a pre-sale date for Angels Insiders or any of the other clubs that offer advance ticket options.
As for when they go on sale or for how much, that remains to be seen.
by MidwayCityLivestock on Dec 2, 2009 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
I just spoke with my client service representative at the Angels
this morning and he told me that pricing won’t be finalized until the ASG invoices go out in March/April. For my particular seats (View All-Star) he told me that I would be able to purchase my seats for the festivities.
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