Earlier this month, the city of Palm Springs unveiled a new statue by artist De L'Esprie of Angels founder GENE AUTRY despite some controversy...
The City Council approved the sculpture in January 2009 despite a recommendation by the Palm Springs Public Arts Commission to deny the artwork.
FINAL SCORE:
Artsy Fartsy Doodleheads: 0
The Singing Cowboy: 1
about 2 years ago
Rev Halofan
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What's controversial?
Wearing bronze after Labor Day?
Captain, there are doubt's...
by Match Day 5 on Dec 1, 2009 5:33 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
We could fry Red Sox* fans on it in the middle of the summer heat.
The 2009 Pregame Picks Winner and Iron Man of Halos Heaven.com
Palm Springs
Was were the Angels used to have Spring Training….. So why the controversy?
Art commission deemed this a copy of a previous work of art.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
Hey Rev...
Aren’t you an artsy fartsy doodlehead?
Or at least you rely on them to be an effective critic…
Go Bruins!
The Artsy Fartsy Doodleheads pay $40,000 for a work of modern art instead of purchasing four Diamond Club Angels season tickets ($156/$131/$115 per ticket per game depending upon row number). If Mrs. Tiger can hit Mr. Tiger with a golf club Rick Neuheusel can hit Pete Carroll with a shillelagh (think Daniel Day Lewis in “The Gangs of New York.”). Just having a friendly! Throwing a touchdown bomb after taking a knee is Artsy Fartsy, Sneaky Pete!
Don't get me started with all that punk-assed UCLA whining, man.
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
Seriously, don't call the damn time out!!!!
Let the clock run, and go home…
Whatever, GO DUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by MidwayCityLivestock on Dec 1, 2009 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
Did you go to the game?
Instead of a win I went home and drowned my sorrows with some W-I-N-E (Cabernet Sauvignon). I saw at least a dozen people selling tickets outside the north side of the Coliseum half an hour before the start of Saturday’s game. I passed on a section 21 row 6 ticket on the 35-yard-line because it was too low and players on the sideline would block my view. I opted for a section 24 row 56 seat 114 ticket. It cost $60 for that 16-yard-line seat. I could have gotten in for less but I wanted a decent seat. Usually at the Coliseum I wind up around row 90 near the top. At row 56 I did not need my Zeiss binoculars when the ball was on the east side of the 50-yard-line. Wearing a UCLA cap and a blue jacket I stuck out like a sore thumb in the USC Alumni section. The three people to my left were wearing Trojan colors and caps but were clandestine UCLA fans. That explained how I was able to buy such a good ticket. Unofficially I was part of their group. I had no fear wearing a UCLA cap in the USC section because I had done it before at the Coliseum in 1969 and 2003. In 2003 the Trojans led 40-0 before UCLA first scored on a blocked PAT return. Did I take a lot of ribbing in that game!
When Malcolm Smith picked off a pass and returned it for a touchdown for the first score of the game I muttered that Kevin Prince was color blind. I recalled that Dennis Thurman had a fumble recovery return for a touchdown in a scoreless USC-UCLA game in 1976 and had a sinking feeling. I remember Gary Beban throwing an interception for a USC touchdown in the 1967 game (that was one year before the first Bruin-Trojan game I attended). Interceptions or fumbles returned for touchdowns are leading indicators of a loss for the victimized team. After this 28-7 win the Trojans are 10-4 in USC-UCLA games I have attended. 10-4 over and out I thought as I walked out the tunnel with 54 seconds left.
If the situation at the end of the game had been reversed (UCLA throwing the last minute td bomb after taking a kneel down) I would be blaming Rick Neuheusel. It is not a one way street. I remember Bruin foul-ups. James McAlister had a 1.6 GPA spelled out on the field by the Stanford band. A UCLA proctor allowed 35 erased corrections from wrong to right on a test (SAT?) McAlister took. The odds are astronomical that a person would make 35 corrections from wrong to right on a multiple choice test. Usually your first answer is most likely to be right. That professor never proctored another test at UCLA. Cade McNown and the Wheel Chair Bears (a half dozen other Bruin football players) used handicapped placards in order to use handicapped parking places on the Westwood campus. Trojan Anthony Davis was known for piling up dozens of parking tickets in his days as a USC tailback. McNown “wins” the illegal car parking contest because it was a team effort.
Staying automotive, DeShaun Foster was given a SUV to drive for two months. That less than $1,000 offense resulted in Foster’s suspension and ended his collegiate football career. Later on Reggie Bush’s parents would get the use of a large house for more than a year at reduced (or no) rent. That sweetheart deal was worth more than $70,000. No penalty for that has been assessed to Bush or USC. Is this commentary semi-balanced? No, there is no W-I-N-E for me tonight. I will pull my next cork an hour before the Oregon-Oregon State game on Thursday. Oregon is my second favorite college football team. Go Ducks!
Just to make this Angel relevant, I did see possible future Angel pitcher Jake Locker quarterback the Washington Huskies against UCLA last month. Washington lost 24-23 because their placekicker missed a field goal in the middle of the fourth quarter. Over the years the Huskies have lost many a game because of their special teams. The Huskies are 1-11 when I see them play. Their only win was a Warren Moon led 27-20 win over Michigan in the 1978 Rose Bowl.
My apologies for putting this football comment in a Gene Autry post. Hopefully Mr. Autry won’t mind. His KMPC radio station has broadcast hundreds of football games over the years.
I only crash the game
I do not crash tailgate parties. I wait until I get home after the football game to drink my wine (which is better than the wine at the stadium). I will read a book in the car until 40 minutes before game time before walking to the stadium. I will pass tailgate party crashers going the other way who are content to watch the game on television. “Crashing” the game usually requires a stack of five dollar bills for UCLA home games and a stack of twenty dollar bills for USC home games. UCLA games are more fun because I don’t know who is going to win. Two weeks back I saw Stanford beat USC 55-21. That was only the second USC loss I went to since 1984. The other was UCLA’s 13-9 win in 2006.
Oh how sweet was that 13-9 win
The highlight of my time at UCLA… The crowd was electric when the two teams started whoopin it up in the middle of the field. Best sporting event I have ever been to, and I went to 2002 WS Game 7 and the 2009 ALDS Game 1 (which rank 2 and 3 in my order and have more significance to me personally).
Lots of interesting and fun history there, but
the only part relevant to my post was this:
“If the situation at the end of the game had been reversed (UCLA throwing the last minute td bomb after taking a kneel down) I would be blaming Rick Neuheusel. It is not a one way street.”
You are right inasmuch as it is a two way street. That is only fair. And I, consistently, would still be here saying you were wrong to be blaming Rick Neuheusel.
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
Well I live in Palm Springs so let me take a shot at this one.
On one hand we have ultra liberal artsy fartsy town.
On the other hand we have old, rich, white, male, cowboy (in this case cowboy meaning……one who used to kill Native Americans…..which are a large part of the culture in Palm Springs area).
You do the math.
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
I really and sincerely doubt that Mr Autry killed any Native Americans in his movies.
I can remember him singing in those, and I think I remember him chasing bad white guys who conveniently wore black hats, but my memory is kind of shot.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
by opiejeanne on Dec 1, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree.....
see below.
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
Found this on Wikipedia. You might note #5
From 1940 to 1956, Autry had a huge hit with a weekly show on CBS Radio, Gene Autry’s Melody Ranch. His horse, Champion, also had a CBS-TV and Mutual radio series, The Adventures of Champion. He created the Cowboy Code, or Cowboy Commandments, in response to his young radio listeners aspiring to emulate him. Under his code, the Cowboy must:
1. never shoot first, hit a smaller man, or take unfair advantage.
2. never go back on his word, or a trust confided in him.
3. always tell the truth.
4. be gentle with children, the elderly and animals.
5. not advocate or possess racially or religiously intolerant ideas.
6. help people in distress.
7. be a good worker.
8. keep himself clean in thought, speech, action and personal habits.
9. respect women, parents and his nation’s laws.
10. be a patriot.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
by opiejeanne on Dec 1, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Makes me want an Official Red Ryder Carbine-Action Two-Hundred-Shot Range Model Air Rifle.
Captain, there are doubt's...
Stupidest, friggin, crappiest Christmas movie of all time.
And, yeah, I fully realize I stand alone with my opinion.
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
You, sir have obviously never seen (or heard of)
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
I have.
Imagine how had I must feel about white bread BB gun worship that I would gleefully get high and celebrate The Star Wars Holiday Special, rather than endure 90 minutes of weak-assed humor surrounding lamp stands.
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
you are just jealous you didn't get to fondle the leg lamp
got hubby a small table top one a few years ago. Yup, it’s his favoritest movie.
After watching it a few times, you appreciate the cheesiness.
I could not, in all good conscience,
force myself to sit in front of a TV and go through the repetitive lobotomies necessary to acheive the particular level of stupification which rewards such cheesy boredom with appreciation.
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
I absolutely love the movie (even after the 20th time)...
…and I never got to fondle the leg lamp either.
Scheesch…next you’ll write a long post on how Scrooge was right all along…
A Christmas Carol is my idea of the epitome of Christmas Classic
I own 4 versions. The Muppets are tops.
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
Sorry. "A Charlie Brown Christmas" is the epitome of Christmas Classic.
That, and “How the Grinch Stole Christmas”.
The animated Dr. Seuss version, not the Jim Carrey abomination.
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
I appreciate your ire.
….Maybe I should say….passion.
Ha! I do get carried away.
I think I was about 3 when I discovered someone on tv whose first name sounded the same as mine, so of course I thought he was wonderful.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
I grew up watching his TV shows,
loving every one. They were a big part of molding my values.
What a joy, after coming to California, learning that he also owned my local baseball team! I’m still fascinated every time I drive by Palm Springs Stadium, knowing that the Angels used to play here.
I don't think the present day palm springs cowboys
identify with your mythic “Indian-Killing Imperialist.”
They maybe nostalgiac for a cultural heritage with a lot of blind spots but I bet you they see themselves as the heirs to a noble, humanitarian legacy – it may not be correct, but it is about as simplicstic and obtuse as your one-size-fits-all homogenization of their attitudes.
I don't think I have ever had so many people not "get" my point.
Obviously I worded it wrong……
I loved Gene Autry, my parents were friends of the Autry’s.
My point was that the idiots in Palm Springs may have looked at him that way. I certainly don’t think of him that way.
I thought this part gave away my opinion on the subject:
“On one hand we have ultra liberal artsy fartsy town.”
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
oh - got it
when you begin a discussion with the phrase “on one hand” it usually means that you will be showing what you consider to be the “other hand” in an attempt to be unbiased and analytical.
After re-reading it, I realize I didn't word it well at all.
I thought “ultra-liberal artsy fartsy” would automatically imply that they were people I didn’t like. However for many people that is probably a complement so my point didn’t work.
My bad.
Love the Autry’s though. Went to tons of spring training games here as a kid. Wish they would come back.
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
I knew ultra-liberal artsy fartsy wasn't a compliment,
but the rest of your post really looked to me like you were hating on the white rich cowboy, Autry (for killin’ all them Native Americans).
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
It was controversial because..
It was cited that because this statue too much resembles the Gene Autry Statue at Autry National Center of the American West (below), and thus not an original work of art.
Rev, our expert on art, got an opinion on the matter?

my opinion
Arrogant, elitist art commissions use a litany of clauses (this “no multiples” is only one example) to exclude art what they do not like without ever just saying “we are stuck-up elitist snobs and this does not represent our values.”
There is almost always some back-room deal involving artists heavily represented in the art collections of the commission members, artists represented by art dealers who do business with members of these commissions, so the regulations serve to disqualify every artist save for the one that has been preordained to get the choice appointment.
I have yet to see an arts commission champion the artist they chose with anything too far from “He/She is an important artist” with “important” never being defined outside of a list of professional connections the artist has.
Even worse, though, is the slow transformation of our “public art” dollars into “art education”, where artists are bypassed (in making art for the public to enjoy) in favor of “arts professionals” (the scummiest corporate cocksuckers in all the creative fields) to “teach” art … and the notion of “educating” is always some bullshit fingerpainting class with a shameless “educator” pocketing five figures for watching over kids making a mess on a Saturday afternoon.
Understand why I am popular in the art world?
Well, in your experience,
could this possibly be a case of an existing artist commercializing his/her own work for easy profit, by recasting a significant component of a prior piece and submitting it as a new, original, piece? And, if so, might not he or she be leveraging some possible favorable backdoor funding they received for the first installation, to sell that work again as a competing installation?
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
The clause does not prohibit recycling construction materials
Removing the horse changes the context of the art work. A nice case of contemporary art theory assisting the proliferation of a 19th century art style.
Without the horse, viewers see more of the figure in its entirety, the notion arises of the cowboy being alone and seemingly satisfied in being a fixture, whereas the presence of the horse implies that the cowboy is transitory and less a part of the landscape.
Two different things and a ticky tack technicality that I bet they would have overlooked for a hipper contemporary artist to be sure.
Not sure if it explains your lack of popularity...
…but it sure goes a long way toward explaining why there is so much crap-ass public “art” around.
That guitar is tilted toward Gene's shoulders...
while the Palm Springs version, the top of the guitar is farther away from Gene’s shoulders. Way different.
;)
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Dec 2, 2009 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
they should have changed his clothes...same shirt
should we have a HH rendezvous at the statue and temporarily put Gene in a HH t shirt for a WIN shot?



















