and everyone seemed to add Reckling or Walden (some crazy enough would add Conger) as a top prospect. In 10 days we will know how the 2010 Angels were formed.

and i believe aybar was in there and that would be ok with me as i do have confidence in izturis and whoever the utility player will be probably evans or brown

If its Nap instead of Aybar then we’re losing a lot of power (which you’ll see if Naps the Jays starting catcher) that we desperately will need. But we will have a leadoff hitter with SOME speed in Aybar.

Its difficult to give up either of the two, but ones gotta go.

I dont see how they will do it considering that Jays fans dont like Saundo why on earth would they like Happ, dude got lucky and pitches in the NL. But here it is…11:36pm: One baseball source tells Tom Verducci of SI.com that the Phillies have been “very aggressive” in their efforts to obtain Halladay. Apparently the Phils are trying to find the players the Blue Jays want, even if that means looking on other teams.

A three team trades seems like it would be too hard for the Phillies to pull off.

It will occupy my time instead of waiting around on the internet to see what the hell happens!

Lind and Hill… but of course we know thats not happening. I would not give up Saundo… but he’s a personal Fav of mine so maybe im biased. I’d sub Santana instead.

Halladay can lead us to and through the playoffs. I like Saunders, but he’s not Halladay

And get us some bullpen help while your at it Ninja.

i think he has potential but i also think mathis hasn’t reached his ceiling and we have more catchers coming down the line. add to it our likely logjam at DH and it just makes sense.

keeping aybar would be fantastic. he may regress some, but even then he’d be a plus SS.

Yes please. Make this trade.

no pun intended, he has a lot of salary they need to dump, maybe he needs a change of scenery, I remember coveting him a couple years ago and he’s only 30. Then we can swing a deal to send Matthews somewhere for a bag of rocks.

So, no.

Somehow pitchers like Johan Santana, C.C. Sabathia, and Cliff Lee manage to get traded without involving all-star pitchers, Gold Glove shortstops, or historically powerful major-league catchers. For all you who like to say “it takes talent to get talent,” this is the kind of talent that moved Cy Youngs:

• Deolis Guerra, Carlos Gomez, Philip Humber and Kevin Mulvey
• Carlos Carrasco, Jason Donald, Jason Knapp, Carlos Carrasco and Lou Marson
• Rob Bryson, Zach Jackson, Matt LaPorta, and Michael Brantley

to work and get in the head of Santana. I think Pedro would help turn Santana into a warrior.

I guess the question would be what five players? If it is Napoli, Saunders and Borjos, then who are the other two?

They should be lesser prospects not top prospects as far as I’m concerned. With Napoli and Saunders they get two top of the line major league starters at their respective positions. Both young and both proven.

It is good if Aybar is not included, but the question remains, who are the other two?

If this thing with Halladay falls through……and all we do is resign Lackey, after having lost Figgins. I will be PISSED ! Pissed at Reagins, pissed at Arte. Pissed at the entire organization. Especially when we see Halladay sign with Boston at the last minute !

I’ll believe it when I see it.

I concur. That’s the attitude I have learned to have with the Angels front office. Just because the FO seem to err on the side of being conservative when it comes to making trades. That might be right and it might be wrong, but that is the way they operate.

I too would love to see Halladay in Angels red. At this point I think it is more than a luxury. It is a necessity. With what the Yankees have done thus far (Pettiite and Granderson) we actually need to have Halladay in our rotation if we want a realistic chance of beating them. Their offense will still be superior to ours, but if we have the superior starting five we could balance the tables a bit. That being said, just because I feel we need Halladay does not mean the Angels brass will feel the same way or take the steps to insure that we get him.

There is no way the Bluejays give up Roy Halladay for those three players… no way! However, if they do pull the trigger now without hesitation! Imagine that rotation…. Halladay, Weaver, Kazmir, Santana… and ?? (does it matter??)