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I just saw that.

Must have really pissed off the FO

by Epic Dean on Dec 12, 2009 10:13 PM PST reply actions  

So much for Brown as the new Q

Granted they have the option to bring all of them back with new contracts, but still surprising.

RIP Nick Adenhart

by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 12, 2009 10:15 PM PST reply actions  

I guess I called Brown a few weeks back

He’s 27, he’s out of options and he’s been on the 40-man for years, never being good enough or consistent enough to earn a spot in Anaheim. He had a fantastic Spring Training earlier this year, got sent down and was horrible in SLC.

See if he isn’t brought back with a minor league deal, but I would guess some team will sign him as a project. Maybe he needs a fresh start in a new organization to blossom. A team like the Pirates could take him on as a low-risk signing and maybe find themselves a cheap 3B or 1B in the process.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Dec 13, 2009 3:56 AM PST up reply actions  

GK got it right...

I wasn’t calling for Brown to fill Quinlans shoes but Kaplan had it right. Maybe he’ll be brough back, maybe he won’t but I still think he has the talent to make a MLB roster.

Next up for the Quinlan job… Freddy Sandoval? That’s my new assessment till I get proven otherwise, ha.

by matt92130 on Dec 13, 2009 6:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not the expert on the team depth chart

but I think you’re right, and Sandoval is next in line, with Brown cut and Sean Rodriguez traded.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Dec 13, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I was about to post this

No real surprise here. There was no room for any of these guys on the roster.

by ryanfea on Dec 12, 2009 10:16 PM PST reply actions  

Arredondo?

I am pretty sure there is room for a guy getting Tommy john surgery.

Play Wood already. Willits sucks.

by hauldog on Dec 13, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

That's kind of the point

The team can take a gamble that no other team is going to sign a player who is useless to them in 2010 and who will be functioning at substandard levels in 2011. My understanding of the rules is that if he re-signs with the Angels, the clock for his free agency starts over, which means the team would get three more seasons of call-ups.

It is about having only 40 players a team can protect, and it seems foolish to waste one of those valuable slots on a player who was marginally important in 2009 and who won’t be donning a uniform—anywhere—in 2010.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Dec 13, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Too close to be a coincidence

There was mention of some bad blood and JA went for Tommy John. Bad move. I’ll bet he could have done it earlier if it was necessary. Hope he saved some money, because he won’t be getting a real check for a while now. Glad it happened now— seemed like a headcase.

by Culero on Dec 12, 2009 10:35 PM PST reply actions  

...Moseley???

That surprises me.

posted from a yellow submarine.

by Figgi4life on Dec 12, 2009 10:50 PM PST reply actions  

Why?

That guy has had a “mystery” injury for the past 2 years in the elbow. And when he does pitch he mediocre at best. Why keep a constantly injured, below-average pitcher?

Here’s a quote from August in the OC Register:

Moseley has been on the DL since April when a nerve problem that was affecting his neck and arm acted up. That discomfort was eventually dealt with but Moseley began having problems with his left hip and had to shut down his throwing program.

That eventually led to arthroscopic surgery in Nashville, Tenn. earlier this month.

Moseley is expected to be ready to participate in baseball activities when spring training opens next February.

Yeah, sounds like the type of guy I want to stick around a ball club, taking up roster space.

Do it for Nick '09

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 12, 2009 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

He could be brought back on a minor league deal

But you’re right. This mystery injury is pretty strange.

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by Slasher52 on Dec 12, 2009 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

correct

posted from a yellow submarine.

by Figgi4life on Dec 13, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

my bad,,,,

internet sarcasm…not always as easily detectable.

Do it for Nick '09

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 13, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

There should be a Firefox plugin

to detect sarcasm and highlight it in red or something.

by rspencer on Dec 13, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually with the new Windows 7

It comes standard. It was my suggestion, so I am Windows 7.

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by Jay Cal on Dec 14, 2009 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

wow

i could see Moseley, but Brown surprises me. And I’m shocked by ET being let go. He must have seriously pissed them off for them to not even see the surgery through.

oh well… we’ll have to get a new bench man and mop up guy. Hello Freddy Sandoval and Trevor Bell!

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Dec 12, 2009 10:53 PM PST reply actions  

He too could be brought back on a minor league deal

If he hasn’t ticked off the FO too much. He had the “option” to go to Tempe like the club wanted in October, where it would have been possible that his injury be diagnosed, and he could have gotten a jump on the TJS. He went to the Dominican instead.

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by Slasher52 on Dec 12, 2009 11:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Ya i get the impression theres a lot more about Arredondo than we as fans get to see/hear

Everyone always used to mention how Preston Gomez was largely responsible for setting Jose straight. Maybe losing him had a real impact..

RIP Nick Adenhart

by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 12, 2009 11:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I really don’t like making excuses for men who play a boy’s game, but I think you’re right, the passing of Preston Gomez had a big impact. Also, some of the respected Spanish speaking Angels pitchers were either injured (Escobar) or departed prior to the season (KRod). Santana was still there obviously, but he doesn’t sit out in the ‘pen like KRod did. Orlando Mercado was still the bullpen coach, so maybe this theory doesn’t hold water…I dunno.

Maybe the guy is simply immature.

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by Slasher52 on Dec 12, 2009 11:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Arredondo shouldn't surprise

He’s about to have Tommy John surgery. The team can use his spot on the 40-man for a player they want to protect, and gamble that no other team will sign Arredondo to a contract, knowing that he’s useless until 2011 and that players who have TJ surgery aren’t effective for another year thereafter—thus who wants to sign a player to an MLB deal, knowing he won’t be at the top of his game until 2012 at the earliest?

I suspect the Angels will sign him to a minor league deal and look forward to his rehab appearances in 2011 to see how he’s progressing.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Dec 13, 2009 3:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope you're right

it just seems messy

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

by Moondoggy on Dec 13, 2009 7:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree

it seems like the move was to essentially save 400,000 dollars on a major leauge contract till he is healthy again.

by ryanfea on Dec 13, 2009 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Wagner came back in less than a year.

If they put him on the 60 day DL he would not take up a roster spot.

Play Wood already. Willits sucks.

by hauldog on Dec 13, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Barely

He came back to the Mets three weeks shy of 12 full months. He didn’t want to miss the September swoon.

It still doesn’t make sense to use one of the 40-man slots to protect a kid who has no consistent track record for the past three years. Assume the Angels make a deal for a middle reliever/set-up kind of pitcher. That player would have to be added to the 40 man, and if the price was minor leaguers not on the list (or a free agent signing) and Arredondo was still protected, then somebody else is going to have to be cut.

Billy Wagner and Jose Arredondo are similar in that each throws a baseball, but after that, the differences are more numerous than the similarities.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Dec 13, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

So far as I know, yes

He isn’t on the 25-man roster, so the team can call up an active player to replace him on the playing squad. But he still takes up a spot on the 40-man.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Dec 13, 2009 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, but not in the offseason

During the season, a player on the 60-day isn’t included in the 40-man, but in the offseason, the limit is 40, period. There is no DL in the offseason, so the team either cuts Arredondo loose and has 40 men under contract (by the start of the season, anyway), or keeps him and has one slot allocated to someone the team knows won’t be useful in 2010.

Thus, holding onto Arredondo leaves us with 39 men come April, unless the team is able to sign someone once the season begins.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Dec 13, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

The only one that surprises me is Matt Brown

as a 27 year old former All-star of Triple A, he seems like he’d have a place in the minors to bake for maybe just a year or two longer. Also, with Wood now given the reigns of the every day player, it seems foolish to discard a corner infielder with such limited major league experience who could ultimately blossom.

Arredondo had a bad attitude and took this treacherous season like a true poor sport, on the level of Jose Guillen. I can think of three games he, and he alone, lost with his poor attitude and failing mechanics. I’m glad he’s gone and most likely won’t be returning to the club.

Moseley is a no-brainer. He came to the Angels for Ramon Ortiz, for crying out loud. He’s never had good stuff (5.41 ERA with a ridiculous fly ball:ground ball ratio) and is approaching 28 with fresh injuries. He’ll never be better than a 7th SP or mop up middle relief. Good riddance to rubbish that was likely asking for more money for no good reason.

by shiftyeyedgoat on Dec 12, 2009 11:10 PM PST reply actions  

He too must have disappointed the FO

With his poor year in SLC and poor attitude (I’ve heard that, haven’t seen evidence, I admit). I was rooting for him to make the club the last few years. Oh well.

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by Slasher52 on Dec 12, 2009 11:30 PM PST up reply actions  

It isn't that the Angels are severing all ties with all three
The only one that surprises me is Matt Brown
as a 27 year old former All-star of Triple A, he seems like he’d have a place in the minors to bake for maybe just a year or two longer. Also, with Wood now given the reigns of the every day player, it seems foolish to discard a corner infielder with such limited major league experience who could ultimately blossom.

What it means is that they’re no longer protecting him on the 40-man roster. In a sense, this is more than fair to Brown, because if he can sign on with another team, he’ll have a chance to play. At the present, I think Brown fell behind Sandoval and others on the team’s overall depth chart, which wouldn’t have happened had he not had such a dismal season at AAA.

Think of it: He went from AAA All-star (as you mentioned) to barely hitting above the Mendoza line for most of 2009. That could be caused by injury, by poor mechanics or by poor attitude. Whatever the reason, he didn’t show the team in 2009 that he was ready to be promoted. After 8 years in the organization, it seems like it is time to move on.

The Angels can still sign him to a minor-league contract as a free agent, but I don’t think he’ll last that long. I can easily see another team taking a chance on him cheaply.

Arredondo and Mosely, though, will most likely not attract any attention from other clubs and I suspect the Angels will sign Arredondo to a minor league deal.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Dec 13, 2009 6:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Any word on Mathis?

I’m still hoping he won’t be back. Not likely though.

by Suboptimal on Dec 12, 2009 11:28 PM PST reply actions  

8-for-16 in the postseason doesn’t quite make up for 50-for-237 in the regular season. Why can’t he just hit .500 all the time?

by Suboptimal on Dec 13, 2009 12:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I like Mathis a lot...

I can see Jeff Mathis hitting .245-.260 with 12-14 HR’s, and 55-65 RBI’s a year if he got 400-450 AB’s a year. It’s likely not going to happen with Napoli on the club but if he was dealt, I would hope he would get his chance to show what he can do with full-time duties. He’s averaged 79 games a year over three seasons. Plus I think he’s a better defensive catcher and the pitchers ERA supports that.

by matt92130 on Dec 13, 2009 6:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I like Mathis but lets not get carried away...

Look at his minor league numbers and then reevaluate your statements.

Do it for Nick '09

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 13, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Okay...

The BA maybe be a little optimistic (Okay, a lot optimistic) but the HR’s and RBI’s are right in line.

by matt92130 on Dec 13, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

i think it does...

post-season is when everything is on the line. If it wasnt for Jeff, we wouldnt even have gotten back to the Bronx….

Do it for Nick '09

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 13, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Really?

I thought that regular season performance was irrelevant if you make the playoffs. Someone could be batting 1000 in the regular season and then whiff at every pitch in the PS. It’s a crap shoot.

God needed a starter. RIP #34

by 3rd Echelon on Dec 13, 2009 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Anybody begrudge Lackey or Figgins for going for the money?

It’s a business folks. Arrendondo goes under the knife that will include a year of rehab and he’s going to get bupkis (that would be same salary for Ben Sheets last year…note to self, if you’re going to go under the knife, do it after you sign the big multi-year FA contract — Pavano is the patron saint of this).

Get whatever you can and hopefully play for a good organization. But loyalty in professional sports goes to the next paycheck — and that’s on both sides of the equation.

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

by Moondoggy on Dec 13, 2009 12:36 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Two to Tango

The IMPRESSION from the media is that Arredondo wasn’t loyal to the Angels – or else they may have kept him under contract while he rehabbed.

by Sethy on Dec 13, 2009 7:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Lackey Said so when Kaz came over

What was the the quote, something like “there is enough money here for who ever the team really wants.”

Can you blame him though? GMJ is getting 5 years/ 50 mil to sit on the bench. In that perspective, Isnt a top notch SP worth 5/ 85?

by Balls and Strikes on Dec 14, 2009 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

So the plot thickens.

Moseley is most likely out of the chase for the 5th spot, and Brown is most likely out of the chase for 3rd base. I’m thinking Wood isn’t going to be traded.

No matter what happens from here on, it has been a great season.

by Rally Manatee on Dec 13, 2009 1:02 AM PST reply actions  

Not too surprised by these moves

Despite all the promise he showed us in 08, Dondo looked like a giant bag of ass last season and apparently behaved like one off the field as well — so good riddance. Mosley had his moments when he was healthy (which was damned rare), but too often was wildly inconsistent and surrendered so many HRs I often felt like Ortiz never really left us.

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'Cause every little thing gonna be all right!"

by Quad Fin Rider on Dec 13, 2009 3:31 AM PST reply actions  

This emphasizes our need for a bullpen arm.

With Dondo not returning (both surgery, and this news) we need another option in the pen.

This doesn’t take away from needing to replace (or sign) Lackey, as I am not sure Weaver, Santana, Saunders, Kazmir, ???, is a good enough rotation (although probably better than average).

It also makes it likely to me that we resign Q, unless there is another corner IF backup option out there that makes sense. He gets a lot of grief, but for the role he is playing, with no hope of getting a starting job over KMo, Wood, etc., he does a decent job.

So, who is the new arm in the pen??
Do we get Lackey back, or Halladay, or ??`
Do we resign Q, or are there better options?

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by matthiasstephan on Dec 13, 2009 5:19 AM PST reply actions  

Bullpen option

I think the Angels will look at Escobar for the bulpen if he shows he is sound when he pitches in Venezuela. I read somewhere that Escobar is planning on being a bullpen guy as he and his agent think it will prolong his career. Does anyone think he’ll give the Angels a discount as he did not honor (Only due to injuries) his last contract?

With the questions surrounding Shields surgery, and Arredondo being released, and Oliver possibly departing FA… addressing the issues in the ‘pen is critical this winter. I just don’t know who can fill the shoes. Escobar would be a nice treat if healthy.

by matt92130 on Dec 13, 2009 6:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Sheilds is the "new arm"

If he’s healthy, he fills a large void that was evident last year while he was out

by mustard_man on Dec 13, 2009 7:14 AM PST up reply actions  

+1

My prediction as of 12-11-2009- Wood .265 avg, 20 HRs 70 RBIs and an above average glove at 3b

by Sinatrasratpack on Dec 13, 2009 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I think we are all counting on Shields returning. ...

but I think we need more. Losing (potentially) Oliver, and losing Dondo (his potential) leaves more of a gap than was even missing last year.

Maybe some of the others, Palmer, Bell, etc can step into that role, but I think we need more. I like the sound of MySpace out of the pen, but that is still a pipe dream (imo) and would rather see some more security in terms of a decent veteran, maybe someone who could challenge (or push) Fuentes or Jepsen for the closer role.

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by matthiasstephan on Dec 13, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

“Do we resign Q, or are there better options?”

Jeez, there are 5000+ pro baseball players out there, how the hell can there not be better options than Q?

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by UK Halo on Dec 13, 2009 5:38 AM PST reply actions  

except that he's a good soldie and a known quantity

wou;dn’t surprise me in the least, particularly if Sandoval has a rough spring

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

by Moondoggy on Dec 13, 2009 7:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Soth has always seemed to like Q

…and we all know Soth is loyal almost to a fault.

by mustard_man on Dec 13, 2009 7:15 AM PST up reply actions  

According to the OC Register, that leaves FIVE empty spots on the 40-man

Anyone recall the last time we had a 35-man roster?

Thinking out loud about this (since I don’t know squat about roster rules/strategy & such), we’d be back up to 38 if we re-signed Lackey/Oliver/Vlad. Add a Garret Atkins type of backup IF and a reliever, and you’re back up to 40. Probability from all that is probably closer to 38…. so I’m having a hard time imagining a Halladay trade that involves coughing up a lot of major-league pieces from our end. Unless we’ve become junkies for roster flexibility.

Anyone with a smarter take?

by mattwelch on Dec 13, 2009 7:57 AM PST reply actions  

didn't Reagins mention

multiple interesting parts in Toronto? Maybe we’re heading for a blockbuster deal.

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by Jay Cal on Dec 13, 2009 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Or Tallet.

He was very good out of the pen, and could replace Oliver. He was a non-tender possibility, but he was offered a contract for 2010.

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by Slasher52 on Dec 13, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

*Very good out of the pen...

In previous years. Not so hot as a starter…

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by Slasher52 on Dec 13, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

To add to Jay Cal's comment.

There are the reports that Toronto is more interested in minor league prospects than major league talent.

Maybe they guys like conger/reckling/borjous/amarista (first names coming to mind) Of those four only one is on the 40-man. We put together a package like this to net Halladay and steal a bullpen arm from them, that brings the count to 36. Lackey/Vlad/Oli bring it to 39, and You bump up Sandoval to be our new Q. It would be expensive, but hey, a guy can dream right.

Nick would be proud.

by halofan4life on Dec 13, 2009 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Obviously that's what I'm hoping for, too

Though isn’t Bobby Wilson out of options? If so he’s got to go.

by mattwelch on Dec 13, 2009 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

True

This is the list of players out of options. It’s obviously not updated to include Brown and Moseley. But, It’s not so much a matter of “he’s got to go,” more, do the Jays want Wilson? You could put Wilson onto the major league team and he would probably do a servicable job until Conger (if traded) is ready which could be by 2011 at the earliest.

Nick would be proud.

by halofan4life on Dec 13, 2009 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the link

I think carrying three catchers is nuts, and it’s also interesting that both Wilson and Budde are out of options. Looks like we’re going to be trading some catchers in any Halladay deal; here’s hoping it isn’t the one guy out of the lot who can really hit.

If the Jays want Mathis, I’m happy with Wilson staying. A Mathis/Wilson combo, though, would be pretty brutal offensively.

by mattwelch on Dec 13, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm shocked we didn't non-tender Budde

I figured we’d be adding Conger to the 40 man over him by now.

by ryanfea on Dec 13, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I've been expecting this for weeks
I think carrying three catchers is nuts, and it’s also interesting that both Wilson and Budde are out of options. Looks like we’re going to be trading some catchers in any Halladay deal; here’s hoping it isn’t the one guy out of the lot who can really hit.

Either Napoli or Mathis is good as gone before the season begins, and it figures that Napoli would have more trade value. In addition, he was clearly in Scioscia’s doghouse for underperforming defensively. Factor in the fact that he can hit the ball a long way and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him packaged in a trade before camp opens in February.

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by George Kaplan on Dec 13, 2009 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

but

Mathis sucks!!!

maybe the Jays value defense as high as Scioscia and are willing to deal with a Mendoza-hitting catcher. I could get used to Napoli/Wilson behind the plate

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by howiestheman on Dec 13, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Except Scioscia is the only one who rates Mathis' defense high.

There was some ranking going around (the one that had Napoli worst in baseball) that had Mathis only a few from the bottom.

by snowhor on Dec 13, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

i know this

it was mostly sarcasm.

ugh… i’m really sick of Mathis, and him stealing Naps’ playing time

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by howiestheman on Dec 13, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

40-man

Expect names like Reckling and Conger to be added to that list.

I don’t think there will be any trouble populating the list.

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by George Kaplan on Dec 13, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

And Lackey or Halladay

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by George Kaplan on Dec 13, 2009 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I like your thinking!

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by Jay Cal on Dec 13, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Just making room for Granderson.

He’s so good, he requires two roster spots.

by snowhor on Dec 13, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

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by howiestheman on Dec 13, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

well i guess brown wnt be the utility guy. and mosley being cut is interesting to me it makes me think they are close to

or confident in them getting a pitcher or in resigning lackey. but as of this moment we are down two pitchers

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!

by TheAngelsColts on Dec 13, 2009 8:10 AM PST reply actions  

I think it would be interesting to see

The Angels offer Atkins an incentive based contract. This gives relief at 3B and 1B. You have Izturis who can cover SS and 2B. And then if they trade Aybar to Toronto in a package for Halladay, you get Wood to play SS.

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by Jay Cal on Dec 13, 2009 8:41 AM PST reply actions  

I'm curious

Who would you want as our lead off hitter next year if we trade Aybar. Assuming that Wood plays SS and Atkins plays 3B.

by ryanfea on Dec 13, 2009 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

ah...

didn’t think that one out far enough. If I was backed into a corner it would be GMJ who is slotted right now to be our #4 OF or DH. Or more than likely our LF with Rivera going to Right and Abreu DHing.

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by Jay Cal on Dec 13, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

That's what Scioscia said

But he also said that if Izzy is the leadoff hitter, that will cut into Wood’s playing time (I believe he said that assuming that Aybar is NOT traded).

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by Slasher52 on Dec 13, 2009 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

This opens the door for a slew of low risk, high reward contracts

A Sheets/Smoltz/Escobar three headed monster in spring training? Kelly Johnson and Troy Glaus duking it out for AB’s?

All of this space gives us a ton of flexibility…

The Sux took this approach last year without it really paying off, but it sure would make things interesting.

by rghan on Dec 13, 2009 9:52 AM PST reply actions  

when I saw his name on the non-tenered pile

I immediately started to think that we should at least take a look at signing him..

Until spring training starts - let's go Cardinals and Suns!

by b0rd3rline on Dec 13, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

YES PLEASE!!!!

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by howiestheman on Dec 13, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Below 6.

Career ERA below 4. One bad year…

Better than the other closer in PA stat wise in 2009 (Brad Lidge).

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by Slasher52 on Dec 13, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

yes, look at 2007 and 2008, look at his age which is 25

2007, 2.28 ERA with 18 saves, WHIP, 1.013
2008, 3.02 ERA with 21 saves, WHIP, 0.969

He would be a back up if Fuentes faltered and a back up if Shields is not healthy, if not, he adds depth

Angels in 2010!

by tanana40 on Dec 13, 2009 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

yah, i looked him up after posting.

  whoops, not as bad as i thought. Still he did have a terrible year last season, but hey yah, could be an abberation. Maybe he was just sick of the terrible FO of the Pirates. (I bet our Salt Lake team could best them in a 7 game series.)

by Wally's World on Dec 13, 2009 10:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone else like the idea of adding Chein-Ming Wang to replace Mosely?

I assume we’re saving all our bucks for the big ticket guys like Bay & Halladay, but if we were to add a cheap SP to fight for the #5 spot, he might be worth a look. He’s obviously had his share of injuries — but if I recall they were all related to his foot. Two 19 win seasons, 55-26 career record (granted that W-L record was boosted by Yankee bats) & a 4.16 ERA looks tempting.

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'Cause every little thing gonna be all right!"

by Quad Fin Rider on Dec 13, 2009 11:05 PM PST reply actions  

i'd take Duchscherer over Wang

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Dec 14, 2009 12:04 AM PST up reply actions  

that sounds SO nasty…

by Rev Halofan on Dec 14, 2009 2:23 AM PST up reply actions  

thought it as soon as i wrote it, too

damn you, weird last names!

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Dec 14, 2009 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

What you do in your private life is none of my concern

Just be safe, OK?

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Dec 14, 2009 3:19 AM PST up reply actions  

He had shoulder surgery in June.

That’s why he was out this past year.

Nick would be proud.

by halofan4life on Dec 14, 2009 12:35 AM PST up reply actions  

True

But the shoulder injury seems related to his foot injury—think Dizzy Dean—and I wonder if his mechanics are permanently screwed up at this point.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Dec 14, 2009 3:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Good point.

Hadn’t thought of that.

Hopefully Butcher could work his magic. Wang is a talented pitcher when healthy.

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by Slasher52 on Dec 14, 2009 5:32 AM PST up reply actions  

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