Hideki Matsui Signing a Goal of Angels President John Carpino
by Rev Halofan on Dec 14, 2009 8:32 PM PST
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Multiple reports have the Angels close to signing Hideki Matsui for a one year $6.5 Million contract.
The reason the Angels have been pursuing Hideki Matsui to basically fill the Vladimir Guerrero role can be summed up with one word: BILLBOARDS.
There are two players in baseball who sells billboards, and they aren't John Lackey and Vladimir Guerrero. They are Ichiro Suzuki and Hideki Matsui. The Angels could recoup almost all of our soon-to-be new DH's salary in a few deals that will put them on the radar of advertising partners that the divorcing Dodgers can only dream of...
The new Angels President, John Carpino, was a giant in the billboard industry and understands them like Bill James understands baseball. He was Arte Moreno's Alma-Mater approved capo at Outdoor Systems and is the person besides Moreno most responsible for making Arte a billionaire. Our new team president is obviously putting his stamp on the Angels. That and the fact that he was the 2nd biggest Yankee fan (to Angels Chairman Dennis Kuhl) on Earth before joining Arte with the team ties him to this move.
This signing is a goodbye to Vladimir Guerrero. We love you Vladdy, but you don't move teevee sets in Tokyo. It is an unsentimental move to bring in revenue from other streams besides ticket sales and at least the Angels have an expert in the outdoor advertising field operating behind the scenes.
Hideki Matsui will sell more billboards in the stadium and introduce Angels management to partnerships with corporate advertisers that were off limits to anyone besides the top tier of international markets only last week. Welcome to the future, Angels fans... expect red pinstripes by 2012.
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I'd prefer my Howard's commercials to remain campy and cheesy.
So I want Howard and the Soth!
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
Wow Mike!
You sure do know alot about… laundry!
I miss Hudler already.
by Teixeira Who? on Dec 14, 2009 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
count me in as someone who appreciates the move
matsui was better than vlad in every way last year and I for one love the business savvy of this regime
RIP Nick Adenhart
This move is downright stupid, Matsui has no knees, he can't run
If he doesn’t hit the ball off or over the wall he won’t make it to first base, say he does make it to first base, is there even one pitcher or catcher worried about him stealing a base? The Yankees didn’t re sign him for a reason and now they will be licking there chops every time they play the Angels, as will Boston. Sure he MAY get 27 home runs, but what about the other 100 plus at bats? I went to approx. 15 to 20 games this year, unless I see some positive moves then I probably woun’t go to more than 2 or 3. I will not pay to see mediocre garbage that has no chance of going deep into the playoffs, as there line up stands right now, they have no chance.
-1 on your negativity...
but, I tend to agree that Matsui will not break 20 HR’s in Anaheim. I hope I am wrong.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Dec 17, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Look, the Angels have had success as a speed team
manufacture hits, get on base and be aggressive, Matsui doesn’t fit that mold. The pitching has taken a huge hit, you have Saunders, and Weaver, and then what? Santana, okay which Santana will be taking the mound? Now who do you have left? Palmer? an d I heard talk of letting Matsui play in the outfield in a few games, are you kidding me, you may as well put a statue in the outfield and just hope the opposing team hits it to stop the ball, matsui himself admits he has arthritic knees. As it stands now the Angels would be considered lucky if they closed the season in 2nd place in their division, which would not give them the wildcard spot because that will go to either the Red Sox or the Yankees. That is the reality of the situation at the moment.
Bizarro off-season
The Mariners try to become the Angels, and the Angels reciprocate
We are the Los Angeles Angels of the late 2000s
bro that's funny, sad, and true all in one
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
by Dono Romantico on Dec 14, 2009 11:31 PM PST up reply actions
anyone think we just go get bedard?
and hope we strike gold?
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 14, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
This idea is becoming sexier and sexier by the minute
We are the Los Angeles Angels of the late 2000s
The truth
I’ve given you a hard time for some claims in the past, but I think you are absolutely correct with this one. Except that the billboards will not be in Southern California, but in Japan. The most we’ll see is some Japanese on one of the outfield wall panels. Still, it’s a puzzling move that can only be explained by marketing.
is it simply marketing?
matsui would fit the profile of a more patient slugger that arte has seemed to look for at 1/3 the cost of jason bay..leaving moeny for pitching.
building a team is about juggling options. Sometimes the most balanced option isnt the sexiest.
This is a move that mirrors the Abreu signing last year- short term, affordable and high chance that we get VALUE here (walks, home runs, RBIs)
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 14, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
But what pitching is out there?
Lackey is about to be signed by Boston, Philies are about to land Halladay. Who is available worth a multi-year deal?
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
just wait
these guys get paid to have a plan. they know more about what’s out there than we do
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 14, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
These young-uns are too young to remember that.
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
miso soup flavored kool-aid
No matter what happens from here on, it has been a great season.
by Rally Manatee on Dec 15, 2009 11:35 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe the Ninja has one more trick up his sleeve
and pulls off a deal for Dan Haren. Wishful thinking, I know….but anything could happen.
"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana
by Chzburger Jones on Dec 14, 2009 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
I think the only justification you can give to go with Matsui over Guerrero is overseas marketing. They’re both about the same age, have balky knees, but they can both rake when healthy. I would think Guerrero would have the advantage of being a known quantity and a fan favorite. But clearly Matsui opens up the Asian market, where there’s a lot more money to be had than in the Dominican.
I disagree...
Matsui is more patient and Reagins has shown an understanding of patience that Stoneman only talked about. Reagins is tending to sign the guys that is more likely to draw the walk. That ages better than a gimpy-legged former outfielder that can’t really run any longer.
I think it is a brilliant 1-year deal if it goes through.
RIP Nick...
Jim Scully
Jim Scully Home
This is Arte's business counterpunch to the Seattle Nintendo's or whatever you want to call the M's
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
by Dono Romantico on Dec 14, 2009 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
I'm all for it
$6.5M contract for a DH better than Vlad, plus a new revenue stream that lets us continue to shop and pay with the big boys? Done.
Uh, just about every single statistical category over the past 2-3 years.
Not to mention his relative health compared to Vald’s.
I think this is more about going forward than looking at stats in the past..
it appears the Angels think Vlad will only get worse while Matsui may age more gracefully. At least for 1 year.
Interestingly their WAR over the last two years is a complete flip flop.
WAR 2008
Vlad: 2.4
Matsui: 0.8
WAR 2009
Vlad: 0.8
Matsui: 2.4
Prior to 2008 Vlad was the better player hands down.
you can also include Batting average and home runs...
they are about the same and have been injured almost the same amount in the last 2-3 years. PitPerc is talking out of his arse.
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 14, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
Sure but your missing my point.
You said that Matsui has been better the last 2 or 3 years. INCORRECT. Utterly incorrect.
But sure quote me if you want… if Vlad becomes a Skankee and wallops HR onto that short-porch all day, you’ll eat your words.
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 14, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
You're right
Calling Matsui the better offensive player over the last 2-3 years was a stretch. Intimating that his stats, over than span, were better is incorrect. I shouldn’t have tried to use that sample size on the fly.
But, my initial point was that I feel Matsui is a better option right now than Vlad.
Is there anyone that disagrees with this point?
I’m a huge Vlad supporter. I love the man. I just can’t see him being a better option for our team right now than Matsui for $6.5M.
Big Vlad fan here... but +1 on this comment.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Dec 17, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
vlad isnt aging well AT ALL
walks age well. Free-swinging does not.
Matsui can get aboard for a morales home run with a walk whereas vlad might have ended the inning with a double play
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 14, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Uh, really? Did you even bother to look at the stats or do you just let your ASSumptions do the talking?
Vlad has more runs, more hits, more doubles, more HR, more RBI, way better BA, and a very comparable OBP in the last three years. He played in merely 15 games more than Matsui.
So please tell me again how Matsui is better than Vlad.
We are the Los Angeles Angels of the late 2000s
A left handed hitting bat with power will come in handy vs the Skanks and Red Sux in their Little League stadiums......
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
I'd rather have Vlad destroying the AL West all season
We are the Los Angeles Angels of the late 2000s
talk vlad last year, not career
people dont seem to understand players dont live in a vacuum. Stats and skills decline, as does health.
Vlad’s skills do not age well. A free swinger who relies on bat speed is not a good investment against strong pitching. A guy who can actually lay off a ball at age 35 IS
This just reminds me of the reaction to the Abreu signing when everyone cried it took Wood’s spot away. How’d that pan out?
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 14, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I see what you did here
You don’t bother to look up data, and then you sit back, content to let others make better arguments than you and then recommend them.
We are the Los Angeles Angels of the late 2000s
Didn't rec that point
but I do like it.
As I stated above, I shouldn’t have thrown out the 2-3 seasons on the fly. The data over the last year and a half or so backs me up, but not the 2-3 years I suggested. You are correct here.
But, I’ll still call Matsui the better option for the Angles. You seemed to disagree in your initial response to me, but didn’t provide an argument to support it. Is there one?
I’d rather have an aging player with some plate discipline and occasional pop than an aging free swinger with some occasional pop. Fan sentiment aside, I’m not so sure it’s a toss-up.
PitPerc's whole argument hinged on HISTORICAL data.
I felt obligated to point out the fallacy and laziness in his assertion (over the past 2-3 years).
I don’t disagree that Vlad is falling apart. However, I think Matsui is too.
Going forward, who knows? It’s almost a toss-up. I would rather see Vlad on my team.
We are the Los Angeles Angels of the late 2000s
did you even look at the stats, or did you just come up with that off the top of your head?
Vlad has had 2,105 AB in the past 4 seasons, Matsui has had 1,512 AB. that shows Matsui’s lack of relative health if he’s not playing as much as Vlad.
just look at the numbers. i’m not going to post them here because i trust that you can look at them yourself. with the exception of last year, Vlad has been putting up better numbers than you may think.
from a non-numbers standpoint, who would you rather pitch to- Vlad Guerrero or Hideki Matsui. should be obvious. Vlad is the best bad-ball hitter in baseball, so you never know when he’ll just get a hit and come up with the goods. i’d much rather have the more conventional Matsui up there. but don’t take my word for it- ask Jon Papelbon.
Not all games played are the same.
Vlad playing through multiple injuries isn’t a good indicator of health.
I’m a huge Vlad fan, but it’s no secret that he’s aging REALLY poorly.
Does Vlad have the ability to strike fear in the heart of a pitcher and deal a significant death blow in a clutch situation? Absolutely.
But there’s a whole lot more to constructing a team than that singular bottom of the ninth hypothetical. On this, it seems we would agree.
If I'm a pitcher, I'd MUCH rather pitch to Vlad.
Vlad is an easy out and his bad-ball hitting skills are declining yet he still swings like he’s still in his prime. Vlad was the better player and will easily be considered the superior player when they both retire…..but I agree that Matsui is the better option for RIGHT NOW. You can’t live in the past. At this stage of his career, Vlad is an easy out. You can just throw him crap 5 feet off the plate and he’ll try to pull it and hit into a DP. He’s a DP MACHINE.
Matsui is patient and his patience, along with Abreu’s, will continue to rub off on the younger players such as Wood, Kendrick, and Aybar. Vlad was a bad influence for them. He hits well against lefties or righties, and last year his OPS at the NYASA launch pad was only .813. That’s not bad at all, but what will put the “his stats were inflated because of the New Yankee stadium” arguments to rest is the .976 OPS he had on the road in 2009. So he can hit anywhere. And he hit into only 4 DP’s last year. Vlad has hit into 122 DP’s since 2003 whereas Matsui has only hit into 71….and most of Matsui’s DP’s came early in that time span. So clearly Matsui won’t be the rally killer that Vlad was.
And lastly Matsui gives us another power threat from the left side outside of Kendry Morales and helps balance the lineup.
"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana
by Chzburger Jones on Dec 14, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Perfectly stated.
Aaaaand Rec’d.
Driven into right-center field, Erstad says he has it...the Angels, world champions!
This somehow escaped my notice before
Very nicely put.
I had no idea about that DP stat. Where do you look stuff like this up? I try using the official MLB stat page, but it’s not very detailed and kind of hard to use beyond basic stuff.
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by Commander_Nate on Dec 16, 2009 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Bleh, ok then.
I’m not a fan of this John Carpino fellow if this is really the case. First firing Hudler, then letting Vlad and Lackey go in order to get Hideki f—-ing Matsui?? No thank you.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
im pretty sure letting lackey go to get a 6.5 million one year contract wasnt the plan
speak rationally please
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 14, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
I'm emotional, let me be for now!
The pitcher whose name I wore proudly on my back has left us for the enemy. Much sadness ensues. Surely it can’t have been his desire, SURELY! SURELY IT MUST BE JOHN CARPINO’S FAULT! PLEASE LET IT BE SO!
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
And now we get to root for Matsui, the guy who beat us in the ALCS this year. A Yankee.
What’s there not to be happy about Clutch?
The 2009 Pregame Picks Winner and Iron Man of Halos Heaven.com
But, but...John Carpino! Bad!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
The overseas media attention
And the marketing revenue will not only give the Angels some much needed love and respect but some more money to sign some important dudes.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
next year
1 year contract = revenue spike, space open for monster 2010 free agent class
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 14, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
the 10 and 11 free agent class is just beyond ridiculous.
I cant wait for those hot stoves.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
It pains me to say this because I'm such a huge Vlad honk
but I agree that signing Matsui is a smart move — I just hope that it’s not going to be our only move.
"Don't worry about a thing,
'Cause every little thing gonna be all right!"
by Quad Fin Rider on Dec 14, 2009 12:18 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
It better not be.
I have a LOT of faith in the Angels FO, but if this is all they do this offseason, I’m going to be MAJORLY disappointed.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
I NEVER saw a billboard of Matsui in NYC...
not saying they dont exist, just saying I never saw one.
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 14, 2009 12:23 PM PST reply actions
irvine, garden grove, korea town
hello new fans!
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 14, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
homeboy is japanese, not korean.
and if you are gonna try and convince me that there are more japanese in so cal than there are in nyc then…well…you might be right. LOL…
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 14, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
you can tell
how many there are just by how many of them you see at Mariners games!
becuase clearly the number of japanese fans in washington correlates to the number in southern california.....
by HaloFanInDC on Dec 14, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
in a yankee game in august, matsui hit a home run
and this group of japanese people surrounding me looked happier than anyone i’ve ever seen about anything in my life
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 14, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
when matsui hit that a friend twittered
this is a great day for asians everywhere. i wanted to stab my eyes out at how stupid that was being asian myself, but whatever.
Driven into right-center field, Erstad says he has it...the Angels, world champions!
I'm so embarrassed.
We wore the same sig to the party.
I’ll go change.
Driven into right-center field, Erstad says he has it...the Angels, world champions!
Well, Lineup time!
Aybar SS
Abreu RF
Hunter CF
Matsui DH
Morales 1B
Rivera LF
Kendrick 2B
Wood 3B
Napoli/Mathis C
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
It looks good!
1. Batting average and speed
2. Clutch hitter
3. All around hitter
4. All around hitter
5. Big power
6. decent hitter with above average power output
7. Line drive hitter
8. We shall see….
9. Power or sacrafice bunt…. pick your poison
Personally I think we need to flip Rivera and make a run at Bay
Rivera’s production combined with his very cheap contract will be an attractive trade chip to other clubs. Its not out of the realm of possibility to land a starter with Rivera being the centerpiece and adding top-flight prospects to the deal.
I would much prefer a lineup of
Aybar
Abreu
Bay
Hunter
Matsui
Morales
Kendrick
Wood
Napoli
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
can i haz matt cain.
for Rivera and others.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
got to do something to keep up with Boston and New York.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
At this point we got to do something to keep up with the M's.
If they manage to land Cliff Lee.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
wow! we look like the skankees...
old standbys coupled with young upstarts and virtually no speed.
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 14, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
I thought Matsui would be a nice fit...
I like the signing if it occurs. The man is clutch. Although the con here is that we seem to playing for right now and not the future. I suppose DH types can be had year in and year out. No biggie, I like the move.
Good-bye Vladamir. It was an absolute honor and privelidge to watch you play. Thanks again and good luck wherever you may go.
WTF?
expect red pinstripes by 2012
Rev, I have always loved your posts, but I felt a seething hatred for you when you said this.
DO NOT SAY THAT SHIT EVER AGAIN!
Peanuts...Get your Overpriced Peanuts!
Yeah, just...no.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
why not
we want to be the west coast yankees. not literally have pin-stripes.
Im all for it. i love winning and smart business.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 14, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
i hear you.......
yes I do
Well said.
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah I remember...
those uniforms were HORRID. I really disliked Disney ownership and was ecstatic when they sold the team.
My utter abhorrence was more towards Rev’s implication that we would be becoming like the Skankees. Now, I know I’ll probably hear a bunch of crap like, “Oh, the Skankees are so successful and run such a good buisness,” but i do not want to be the Skankees, EVER.
The Skanks are a bunch of punks who do nothing but spend a boatload of money for the best players & act like they own baseball. Screw the Skankees and their business model.
When we once again win a World Series I pray it is like it was in 2002, because a bunch of guys with a TON of heart and grit never gave up and came out on top. I don’t want to win a championship because we spend like crazy and were suppose to win it.
Peanuts...Get your Overpriced Peanuts!
by Angel Hawker on Dec 14, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
That's what this year should have been.
Damn you, CC!
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
DID YOU ORDER THE THE UMPIRES!!!!!!
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
The team needs pitching
The only difference between Matsui and Vlad is that Matsui was likely accepted the one year offer before Vlad did.
I agree, this changes nothing in terms of pitching.
I hoped we were going to get Lackey back, but since that isn’t happening we need another pitcher. We have four pieces of a good rotation, but what we don’t have is a #1. I don’t know if there is one out there to be had, but adding another decent starter will get us to the All-Star break, and from then, who knows who might be available.
We also need bullpen help. We should resign Cousin Ollie and take a look at Capps.
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by matthiasstephan on Dec 15, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
So the Japanese are possibly the biggest lot of band wagon fans ... ever?
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
I think they pretty much go for Seattle and then whereever else the major Japanese stars are playing.
So we would be one of those teams, then, especially for Hideki Matsui.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Not sure how that is any different from Korea or any of the Latin American countries?
The countries with few stars root for the players themselves as opposed to the team they play for
by HaloFanInDC on Dec 14, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Cheap labor.......
which will turn into huge profits for the team, which in turn could possibly increase payroll in the future?
Im down……….
Good work fellas!
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2009 12:37 PM PST reply actions
right, and next year is going to be a HUUUUUUUGE year for free agents....
HUGE.
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 14, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
In which case,
Good planning. Let’s hope this works out!
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
this is true.
gotta look at the big picture… no matter how hard it is to want it all after a season that we were so close to getting to the world series.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Dec 14, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
Get Real
The Angels have a long history of making “decent” offers, but eventually losing out on the player. Do you really think next year will be magically different and we’ll just start outbidding everyone?
OK, I'm finally over losing Tex. Thanks Kendry.
by 10 27 02 on Dec 14, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
seattle did this year
they havent exactly been huge bidders in the past. you have to have payroll come off all at the right time and have FA that fill those needs. Seattle just had a perfect storm this year
My prediction as of 12-11-2009- Wood .265 avg, 20 HRs 70 RBIs and an above average glove at 3b
by Sinatrasratpack on Dec 15, 2009 9:29 AM PST up reply actions
What's Next
Geez, what’s next. In a vain attempt to win more fans, the Angels will now be known as. . .
The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim and Tokyo
Great alliteration, the way it just flows off the tongue and it will make about as much sense as the last really lame name change.
Hey Arte, here’s idea, why don’t you just sell the naming rights to the Angels. They do it in Japan after all. It could be the Los Angeles Budweisers.
by righteous halo on Dec 14, 2009 12:38 PM PST reply actions
BLAH BLAH BLAH.....
get over it. Matsui is a solid player.
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 14, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
More fan = more revenue = more spending? something wrong with that
All of the revenue stream and advertisement language is getting a bit overused as an excuse for being disappointed that the team is not resigning vlad.
by HaloFanInDC on Dec 14, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like they ARE resigning Vlad
But not re-signing him.
Driven into right-center field, Erstad says he has it...the Angels, world champions!
I love budweiser
and would be in favor of that name change.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Dec 14, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
Budweiser Angels...
has a nice ring to it, no?
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 14, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
Love it.
Drinkability can be worked into halos marketing…
Angels Offense has Hittability.
Hideki Matsui brings Japanesibility.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Dec 14, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
definitely living up to your screen name
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 14, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck...
2:36pm: Morosi tweets that MLB hasn’t granted the Phils permission to negotiate with Halladay yet, but a deal “looks close.”
the latest from mlb trade rumors.
They want power. We want respect...
:(
maybe he told us flat out he wasnt interested in being here long term
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 14, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
screw his people and their magic underwear.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
three way deal homie....Lee's coming to disneyland!
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 14, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
nothing is a done deal
but… SI had mentioned that Lee was going to be traded.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
what if its hamels to the angels...
but I hope your right Lee to the angels would make me dance.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't hate that..
Maybe Hamels with Butcher and our pitching staff normalizes him. If not we can get that Dad at Dodger stadium wearing the socks and sandals could give him some advice.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
hah that commercial is so cheesy
btw Big John just signed for 85/5
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
What would it take to land Lee in a threeway?
It might be as much if not more for Lee with no extension?
No thanks.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
I think we can all welcome Vladimir Guerrero to the Yankees
with a one year deal.
Watch and see!
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
And I'll be cheering for him when he goes 4-4 against red sox Lackey
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Dec 14, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
I think Vlad would look good in a Royals uniform
Well I hope that isn’t the case for him.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by stolenbases on Dec 14, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Vlad to the twins would be nice.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
May end up in Texas
It is not like he doesn’t hit well there…
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Yes were going to get the Japan Vote for the All Star game .
Matsui and Hunter the only Angels All-Stars.
How sad will that be. :(
Matsui
Hunter
K-Mo
Weaver
Kazmir
Hopefully will all be All-Stars.
by deejayelleseven on Dec 14, 2009 12:51 PM PST reply actions
hmmm im gonna miss vlade, but i guess if we had to lose vlade, im glad we got an upgrade. I think some of you guys are really overestimating Matsui’s marketability. Sure I didnt live in new york, but when I went there, I hardly saw any Matsui merchandise/advertising.
In Kobe we trust!
I think you overestimate your understanding of the situation
The merchandise and advertising is in J A P A N!
Matsui is a baseball legend there, and Japan pays big bucks for his likeness.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
Wow every Angels Game on TV in Japan .
Dang that’s awesome lol.
by deejayelleseven on Dec 14, 2009 12:56 PM PST reply actions
I really like the idea of Arte
Cashing in. Just want to see some pitching added.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
Could have used that when I lived there.
Only got them via a herky-jerky data feed on the desktop: Vlad swings…..freeze…pause…curse…curse, commercial!
Like it or not, becoming one of baseball’s elite means becoming more global in your thinking and presentation. Now, whether that’s what’s driving THIS signing or not is, I think, still up for questioning.
Driven into right-center field, Erstad says he has it...the Angels, world champions!
Same here, but ...
every game in my MLB package was blacked out. So I would wait for the Halos to play Seattle, or the Yanks, for video coverage. But they did have the Angels on that military radio station quite frequently. So I got to listen to them play while driving for work.
Halladay to Phillies
Lee to Mariners.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
Ninja why!!!
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
The Fuck?
SI.com reporting:The Phillies are in agreement on a three-team trade with the Mariners and Blue Jays to acquire star pitcher Roy Halladay, SI.com has learned.
Sources say Halladay will agree to a contract extension to complete the deal.
It’s likely Cliff Lee would wind up with the Mariners in the deal.
They want power. We want respect...
Time to make that Matt Cain trade.
Rivera and Bell for Matt Cain.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
Giants dont want that crappy offer lol.
by deejayelleseven on Dec 14, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
They need a bat
Badly. A cheap one.
Rivera fits that mold.
Would take more than Bell to make it happen
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
check it.
Giants need at least a C and OF. Napoli, Rivera, Trumbo for Matt Cain.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
Haha
Absolutely not. Rivera and Trumbo fine but to include Napoli would be incredibly stupid by the Angels. Or overly ambitious by the Giants to even ask. Matt Cain is not worth those three. Two yes, not three. Plus, Napoli is viewed as a high trade chip. So is Rivera for that matter. Productive and cheap.
Matt Cain is beast mayne.
Im not that big on Napoli so I try to include him on every trade. But the Giants do need a catcher and outfielder. so Napoli and Rivera plus a decent prospect for Matt Cain a dude that has 2.89 era, 171k’s, and pitched over 200 innings. Hes worth the players.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Well remember he pitches in the AAAA
You have to take into consideration how NL West pitching translates into AL West Pitching.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
ehh I have faith.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
Oh hey I dig Matt Cain too
But just for the right price.
This is a fun day for the Angels
Lackey signs with the Red Sox for far too much money, but still, joins the dark side.
The Mariners get significantly better and land Lee.
Angels get a 35 year old DH….
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
by PhiSlamma on Dec 14, 2009 1:07 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Thanks for putting this in perspective as I close my garage door and start my car... gurgle...
We are the Los Angeles Angels of the late 2000s
No Lackey, No Halladay, No Lee
I feel like I got kicked in the nuts three times today
"Don't worry about a thing,
'Cause every little thing gonna be all right!"
by Quad Fin Rider on Dec 14, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
I feel like kicking something if you'd like to try for four...
We are the Los Angeles Angels of the late 2000s
You'll have to wait until after Reagins is finished taking his turn
he doesn’t seem to have anything else to do today
"Don't worry about a thing,
'Cause every little thing gonna be all right!"
by Quad Fin Rider on Dec 14, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like Derek Lowe!
jk….
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 14, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
FUCK THIS.
F—K IT TO H—LL.
G—D—AMMIT REAGINS, I HAD SO MUCH MORE FAITH IN YOU!!!!
So on one day you:
Let Lackey go.
Let Halladay slip away.
Sign an aging, declining bat that isn’t going to do SHIT for us next year, at least any more than Vlad—everyone’s favorite—would have, and maybe get an extra couple of dollars next year THAT YOU WON’T SPEND.
Let the Mariners get CLIFF LEE, in addition to their already-acquired CHONE FIGGINS, who will be awesome for at least a year.
FUCK THIS.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
by Clutch on Dec 14, 2009 1:08 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
As long as the Angels win the World Series. :-)
For some offseason fun, check out the Mac & Windows Space Shooter game I helped make: Insectoid
lol I like it when ppl dont like deals .
as opposed to when we get someone like Teixeira or Kazmir and it’s all WS Title here we come . lol
by deejayelleseven on Dec 14, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
Lee is for certain
or so says Heyman.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH....
Mariners still have lots to rebuild. In addition, next year FA market will be H U G E. Need to think long-term buddy….
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 14, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
true but look closer Haul...
Russel Branyan had a killer year. Think that will happen again? Guess who also was lights out for a part of the season. Jarrod Washburn. Since when was the last time he was lights out? Oh right, when he was an Angel. Maybe a fluke? I think so, not to mention he wont be returning to the M’s anyways. Is Aardsma for real? Lots of question marks still…
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 14, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
The Mariners will give the Angels a tough battle
Still….people need to remember that Livan and Lee can’t pitch every other game for the Mariners all season. They also still need to improve on their offense which is still very weak.
I guess it will come down to a battle of the Mariners and their run prevention philosophy of pitching and good defense first versus the Angels and their superior offense, but weaker pitching.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by stolenbases on Dec 15, 2009 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
Uhhhhhhhh.
Pretty sure it’s FELIX Hernandez.
I wish Livan was pitching for them LOL
by lightupthehalo29 on Dec 15, 2009 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
This stinks
Lee to the Mariners
Halladay to the Phillies
Lackey to the Red Sox
and Matsui to the Angels !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is like when you were in High School and your friends got a new car and your parents gave you there 12 year old Corolla beater. They told you that they don’t have the same kind of money as your friends parents and then they told you how much life that 12 year old Corolla still has. But no matter how much you look at it. It’s still a 12 year old Corolla and you’re still going to get smoked.
Nice job Reagins. Up to now, it was thought that you were leading a sleeping giant, that was waiting to make its move. Now it appears that you were just sleeping.
Wake me up when its over.
No, Matsui is.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
by Clutch on Dec 14, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, but several of those pieces are What We No Longer Have.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
well if you want to talk names that capture a market, what about chien ming wang?
last summer when I was back in taiwan, literally EVERY yankee game was broadcast because they love the fact that they have a player in the MLB… if i had a dollar for every yankees hat or jersey I saw, I’d be able to buy a season seat :D
actually not a bad call
He would sign for a bag of peanuts and acne cream.
put him at the 5 spot see what happens if he sucks cut him loose, bring in O’Sully and/or bell to fill roll
My prediction as of 12-11-2009- Wood .265 avg, 20 HRs 70 RBIs and an above average glove at 3b
by Sinatrasratpack on Dec 15, 2009 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
Agree
I wouldn’t mind the Angels taking a “grab bag” approach to filling their rotation and signing people like Wang, Escobar, or even Brett Myers to low cost/low risk contracts with a potential for a high reward and seeing which one will stick.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by stolenbases on Dec 15, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
No, Im not going to give anyone the satisfaction of us throwing a fit over this
Fuck you Lookout Landing.
We will still wipe the floor with you. Bring your weak shit to Anaheim and see what gives. Your two best hitters are slap single guys, and you have no power.
Fuck you Boston.
Lets see how that 85million looks in two years when Lackey’s throwing arm falls off and he has five chins.
I for one welcome our new Asian Overlords.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
by PhiSlamma on Dec 14, 2009 1:12 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
What is Hasagawa doing?
Lets be the Mariners. Lets go get all the Asians we can.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
Rec'd
I 2nd that F-U to the coffee drinking rain soaked fucktards to the north!
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
Let's sign Starbucks
That’ll show em!!!
"Well make more fuckin' money. This is America. You don't make money, then you're a fuckin' douchebag." - Mr French "The Departed"
"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter
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by Commander_Nate on Dec 14, 2009 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
Hells yeah whoo whoo.!!!
:D
GODZILLA!!!!
by deejayelleseven on Dec 14, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
Great idea
Park has been great out of the pen the last couple of years…problem is he wants to start.
Or is Kendry perhaps the one who needs to sit?
ESPN is saying Lackey - Red Sox deal is done
5 / 85
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
oops..way late.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Dec 14, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
Matsui
Is basically a lefty hitting Vladdy, an insanely tough hitter to pitch to, who will grind out at-bats like Abreu has.
If healthy, Matsui is good for 25 home runs, 100 RBIs and close to a .300 average.
I like this move, though it signals the end for Vlad in a Halos uniform.
Angels probably didn’t want into a prolonged negotiation with Vlad and decided Matsui is more than an adequate replacement.
Or is Kendry perhaps the one who needs to sit?
I would be more pissed if the FO gave Lackey that 85 million.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
by PhiSlamma on Dec 14, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
I second that sentiment PHI
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 14, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
step back from the ledge.....
its not the end of the world…….
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
they are thinking Matt Cain from the SF Giants.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
Put your call into Reagins
Its time to make it the call. Get Cain in a Halos uni.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
Dude lets go to the big A and try to get the word out.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
no source, just a trade proposal that has been said many times.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
The only one who got a kick ass extension is Tony Reagins.
hail hail hail
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
Where's your big post, Rev?
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
by Clutch on Dec 14, 2009 1:24 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
PERVERT
We are the Los Angeles Angels of the late 2000s
by Higz on Dec 14, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
heyyy-o!
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Dec 14, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
Ha.
Nice. But so totally unintended.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
What a shit show.
Lee to the Mariners
Halladay to the Phillies
Lackey to the Red Sux
We get Pornzilla and no Vlad.
Fuck you Reagins.
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
What the hell?
We lose Lackey, the chance to acquire Halladay and/or Lee, Vlad is all but gone, and I’m
supposed to be excited over billboards? Fuckin’ billboards?!
Are we officially packing it in for the 2010 season?
Is Arte’s main concern having a pretty ballpark for the All-Star game?
Matsui, great signing. That means Abreu has to play the outfield every game, that promises to be money well spent. Good God.
I've got nothing.
I want to stress patience...
There is no way the Angels are done here. Lackey is dead to me. Halladay is out of the AL, which is a good thing. We had to deal with Lee before, so it’s nothing new. Though he is in the same division us now. Can I remind you that Kazmir had 1.73ERA in 6 starts for us.
And if a pitcher is what everyone is clamoring for… the likes of Matt Cain, it’s almost certain Rivera would be in that trade. Potentially opening LF for Jason Bay. Remember, Scioscia said he’s not the number 1 priority, but he may very well be the number 2 or 3. Just saying. Don’t worry so much about other clubs, have faith in the FO. They’ve built a helluva a team in Anaheim for us. They will continue to do so.
by matt92130 on Dec 14, 2009 1:32 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd
Yay
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly what's the reference?
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Oh yeah I know that
Just thought the “patience my ass” came from something else…but I suppose it makes sense now.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
I'm not ready to kick the dog
But Matt, thanks for bringing it all around again.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
Bill Stoneman and GMJ
That is where the blame for our current situation lies. $22.5 million or something like that is currently locked up on our bench in an apparently untradeable player.
The only major leaguer I’d trade for Cain is Napoli. Give them Bourjos and maybe someone else, if such a deal is even possible.
As my buddy said after the ALCS, “we need to have a fuck you type season next year”.
God dammit.
"Well make more fuckin' money. This is America. You don't make money, then you're a fuckin' douchebag." - Mr French "The Departed"
"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter
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Would be curious to see a list of the ten least tradeable players/contracts in MLB and where GMJ would rank.
vr, Xei
That Speier signing was also pretty bad
I think the Halos still owe him about 5 million in 2010 for going to the beach and surfing during the day while working on his stand-up comedy at night.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by stolenbases on Dec 15, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
Scoscia Disciples Calls It
The newly minted Angels blog, Scoscia Disciples amazingly called this move over a Matsui look alike Cucumber roll at a SoCal sushi restaraunt. It’s kind of funny, here is the text (link above).
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As a point of interest, I went to a sushi lunch with my wife today and we were discussing the World Series MVP Hideki Matsui. We would both love to see such a Japanese player join the Angels. “I believe Matsui is a free agent,” I told my wife. “It will never happen,” she replied. Just then I looked down at the cucumber roll I was about to eat and saw a remarkable likeness of the Yankee’s DH from the land of the rising sun. Is this a sign from the heavens? I don’t know. I guess I will need to check the tea leaves.
===
"Perhaps a Roy Halladay will pop up in your miso soup"
That is awesome.
Unfortunately, the miso was obviously just… Soup.
Driven into right-center field, Erstad says he has it...the Angels, world champions!
IT'S STONEMAN REINCARNTED!!!!
Tony is thinking that he HAS to deal so here comes another past-prime Yankee. What’s next……….Cust?
Ok lost Figgins.... lost Lackey..... could not land Halladay.... sign Matsui?
What the hell is Angel front office doing. If they sign Matsui and leave Vlad hanging no world seriese for us our best pitcher is Ervin Santana
Bring back Lackey
by Angelsrthebest101 on Dec 14, 2009 2:45 PM PST reply actions
We were an Ace and a hitter away from Greatness!
Now I’m not so confident that we will beat the M’s for our division.
Wow. Epic fail Reagins.
where's
Barry Bonds at? that ’roiding bastard can probably hit some balls outta the park
Anaheim: old Yankees rest home
Maybe when Posada, Petitte, Jeter and A-Rod are washed up the Angels can sign them. Matsui signing with the Angels would make us the laughing stock of baseball, not that there isn’t a case for that now. This is so sad.
Matsui is hardly washed up.
Is he the player he was when he went to the Yanks? No.
But he’s still a very good player.
the man is the WS MVP.
im sure everyone thinks we retarded for signing a great LH bat.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
I think we already were.
It’s just that we started winning and said hey f—k you to all the laughers! Now let’s NOT GO BACK TO THAT!
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
if this was a 3 year deal...
we’d be a laughing stock. It’s a one year deal for cheap. This is a steal.
We can hope!
Somehow I don’t think making an Abreu 2.0 signing is actually going to give the Halos an Abreu 2.0!
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
But you never know!
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
what happened to
the DH role being for “the guy who is, but isn’t on the dl” – anyone remember that time
Farewell to Vladdy
How are we gonna stop the Mariners
by The Blake Griffin Era on Dec 14, 2009 6:35 PM PST reply actions
on the bright side
maybe we can get a starter in the all star game (aka Yao Ming affect – look at Tracy McGrady, could start the all star game even though he hasn’t played a minute). even though i would be mad as hell if we get a starter “the cheap way” (however a host team should have a starter, just because it is the host team)
its kind of funny.
This is a good parallel to the Hudler situation.
We let Hud go and while many people were bummed (as was/am I), there were others who praised the move. BUT, we replaced him with MOTA.
Now, while I think we all can understand what the front office was thinking with the Vlad waiting game, they go and replace him with Matsui. Pretty feeble comparison but what the hell..I’m tired and bored.
Nick Adenhart 1986-2009
by autry's cowboys on Dec 14, 2009 9:33 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Matsui ain't marketing Shit
his friggin face and teeth will scare the shit out of anyone. Have you seen this guys face. He’s as cuddley as godzilla.
Both Vlad & Matsui have zero English speaking skills to sell anything and at least when Vlad smiles he doesn’t scare the children.
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
by Dono Romantico on Dec 14, 2009 11:30 PM PST reply actions
Hey IDIOT
the games are broadcast to Japan on television – the billboards in the stadium will be in Japanese. They have nothing to do with the language YOU speak. They have to do with the language that 10 million viewers on the other side of the globe speak.
by Rev Halofan on Dec 14, 2009 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
Prolly not the billboards.
Prolly the blue screen in the camera eye behind home plate. 99% of the promotional value of Matsui will, most likely, be invisible to us locals.
(Unless he makes a run for regular season AL MVP. Maybe then the boys and girls of Newport Beach will know about him.)
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
I don't know about that
When the Angels play in Seattle, there are a lot of advertising banners in Japanese in that rolling display behind the plate. There’s generally only a blue screen behind the plate for the Fox and ESPN network games.
Angels Stadium does not have a rolling billboards machine.
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
Stirrups is right. It's a green screen.
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
am i the only one laughing the everyone is talking billboards
(because Arte made his money that way)
Since that is the case
what has taken the Angels so long to sign (or even go after) any Japanese stars?
Do tell all-mighty, all-knowing, name-calling enlightened one.
And let us all be reminded during next season by your highness, why the main reason he is here, should he slump and others on this site light him up when deserved. Though we as fans will never know or have any honest answer from the organization..it is your DUTY (like the use of caps Rev) to enlighten us with dollar amount he is contributing off the field that, I don’t know… keeps the price of tickets, beers, food, and souveigneers affordable. Oh wait, that pretty much has already been done before we signed him.
Please enlighten por favor.
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
by Dono Romantico on Dec 15, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
Not to take sides in the name-calling
But Rev does have a point.
Matsui and Ichiro are like Jesus and Moses in Japan. There will be marketing dollars in this move for the Angels. Japan is a fully industrialized, G8 nation as well, unlike the Dominican Republic or Venzuela for example.
I’m not an economist or a marketing professional so I can’t give you figures but it’s safe to say they won’t be insignificant.
"Well make more fuckin' money. This is America. You don't make money, then you're a fuckin' douchebag." - Mr French "The Departed"
"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter
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by Commander_Nate on Dec 16, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
so did we sign Jesus or Moses
cuz if it’s Jesus, he has a birthday coming up soon and I need to make sure I mark my calander.
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
by Dono Romantico on Dec 16, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
I'm gonna say Moses
Matsui is older I think and Moses is older than Jesus.
So yeah, we signed Moses.
"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter / Part-Time Nemesis of the HH Reply Function
by Commander_Nate on Dec 17, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
Might as well bring in Chien-Ming Wang, too.
Ex-Yankee and he’ll move some jerseys in Taiwan.
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