John Lackey Officially Benedict Arnold
by Rev Halofan on Dec 14, 2009 1:59 PM PST
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Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim pitcher John Lackey has signed with the Boston Red Sox for 5 years, $85 Million. Read all about it at OVER THE MONSTER, the SBN Boston Red Sox blog.
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He's a traitor because we didn't offer him what he thought he was worth?
I am fan various years ago.
by Fred Fredrix on Dec 14, 2009 2:01 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
exactly right
every halo fan should remember Lackey fondly for what he did in game 7 2002 and the last 7 years on the whole.
I guarantee the Angels had a chance to match...
no sour grapes here. Good for him, bad for us. Every single one of us would have done the same thing.
For how much he is getting...
You know the Angels offered the same, or maybe not. We will all find out the truth in good time.
"F@&* it, lets pitch"
-Ervin Santana
by pendletonmike on Dec 14, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
lacking to roidsox, halladay to the phils , lee to the mariners.
… what a fucking DAY…. locking myself up in my room and crying for the rest of the night.
by jbern on Dec 14, 2009 2:02 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I'm going to get re-acquainted with Jack tonight.
Jack Daniels, that is.
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by Slasher52 on Dec 14, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I can second that emotion.
Vodka AND JD tonight for me. F-ckin sellout.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
Like Tom Petty said
Don’t do me like that!
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by LazorkoRules on Dec 14, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
He'll be a #3 in Boston..
and he never was an ace over here. A quality starter yes. But he’s not worth what the Sox paid.
Good riddance.
by Nashdiesel on Dec 14, 2009 2:02 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
O V E R P A I D
sox got hosed, BIG TIME.
While I don’t like the idea of big john’s ugly face being with the sox, there’s NO WAY in hell he is worth 5 / 85. Trying to keep pace with the yanks payroll can lead to stupid signings like this.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Dec 14, 2009 2:02 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
Definitely a Traitor
Sox paid wayyyy too much and I don’t blame the Angels for not matching it, but holy shit has Lackey just lost his luster in my book.
His antics that were regarded as bulldog ish here in Anaheim will be frowned upon in Boston.
The moment he publicly rips a player on his new team for a missed play, and publicly whines when he gets pulled after getting lit up – - and it will happen – - the fans will turn on him, and so will the Media.
In Anaheim, John had to just be the Ace, just show up, do his best, and gut it out. We were all delirious and 2002-Game 7 drunk. He proved it early here, and won’t have to live up to a contract.
In Boston, the moment he waivers and falters on the mound OR in the clubhouse, he’ll be eaten alive. He has no idea what scrutiny is. Welcome to hell, John. 85M can buy anything, but you just cashed the check, and now people will expect you to earn it.
Self-realization. I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "I drank what?"
The Geek.
by The OC Sports Geek on Dec 14, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
agree 100%
I wrote on OTM…“wait til he throws his first temper tantrum, beans a batter, gets ejected and then the game goes to the crapper”
Lackey became the Kanye West divalicious dude of the mound….
farewell and don’t let the door hit ya
yeah right
A) it is market. Burnett. Lowe etc.
B) He lead the league in ERA 3 years ago and has been top noptch for awhile.
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
Yeah definitely not a traitor.....
Go get your money Big John…….always gonna have much love for you!
Thanks for service to the Halos………Good luck in the future…….just not against us!
:-)
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2009 2:03 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Lackey doesn't owe the Angels anything
The Sox wanted him more than the Angels did. Was it overpaying? Only time will tell.
OK, I'm finally over losing Tex. Thanks Kendry.
by 10 27 02 on Dec 14, 2009 2:04 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
I cannot WAIT
For Torii Hunter to hit one of his curveballs to the fucking MOON!
"Well make more fuckin' money. This is America. You don't make money, then you're a fuckin' douchebag." - Mr French "The Departed"
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by Commander_Nate on Dec 14, 2009 2:05 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
It's days like this...
that I reeeeeeeally miss Nick.
"I thought you said we didn't have any high-priced talent."
"Well, I forgot about Dorn because he's just high-priced."
by It's A Trap! on Dec 14, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Oh yes, please.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
good for big john for getting paid, good for us for not...
having to watch him labor through years 3, 4 & 5 of that deal. he’ll spend just as much time of the dl in years 3-5 than he will on the field.
by thejd on Dec 14, 2009 2:08 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Depends
What did Reagins do to woo him? A lot depends on that. At least for me
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
If the front office panics and starts throwing money at old outfielders, I'm gonna lose it
Bay, Matsui, Guerrero…none of these players make a substantial enough difference to break payroll flexibility come next offseason.
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#34
by Carl Johnson on Dec 14, 2009 2:12 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
me thinks
FO is being patient until 2011, where there will be a large crop of FAs.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Dec 14, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
i hope this is it.
i better not see any “angels sign matsui” crap. that would be the sucks.
"come on, eileen."
me thinks
The Angels always make “serious runs” at top free agents every year but really they are being used to drive up the prices of players for the competing teams. Then the Angels settle for a few useful veterans to fill out the line-up just enough to get them a few games into the post season and that is it.
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by 44FAN on Dec 14, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If true, I hope that beceoms Arte's testimony during the collusion hearings.
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
How is Bay lumped together with Matsui and Guerrero
Bay is a significant hitter.
Not only does he get on base a very high clip, he hits for power and drives in a lot of runs.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
He also can't field, and fell asleep for half a season last year
He’s not young. He’s not Matt Holliday.
He’s not what we need.
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#34
by Carl Johnson on Dec 14, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
But I have a sinking feeling where he’ll end up.
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Well with the Matsui signing it seems like there is no room for Bay
Unless we trade Rivera for a pitcher. In any case, I don’t want Bay. Let the Mets overpay for him.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by stolenbases on Dec 15, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Isn't that the modus operandi, though?
Miss out on big FA or trade-market acquisitions and subsequently overspend on OF’s?
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Yep
If I’m Lackey, my stance is- you gave GMJ 50 mil over 5 years and he rides the pine. I want my cash.
Sadly, I still think we will be competitive in the west and possibly make the playoffs, maybe- MAYBE- fight into the second round before looking completely overwhelmed and later hearing Arte vow to do whatever it takes, again. Then watching every major FA sign with the big 3.
by Balls and Strikes on Dec 14, 2009 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
Yankees, Red Sox, and who's the 3rd?
Phillies? Mets?
RIP Nick Adenhart
by stolenbases on Dec 15, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
that really sucks.
Really, really loved Lackey.
Really, really wished he went anywhere but the Red Sox.
I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.
by lightupthehalo on Dec 14, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
Since we're apparently in Cheapass Mode
Might as well sign Sheets for a few million and a box of Cheerios.
“Not only do they help against heart disease, but they ward off Tommy John Surgery too!”
How’s that for a marketing scheme?
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We should sign Sheets and get a shitload of Wheaties.
God know we are going to need them.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
Definitely a traitor
It would have been ok to sign with another team, but not the Freakin’ Redsucks! This is worse than Figgins going to the Mariners
Xavier Calvera
by xavier c on Dec 14, 2009 2:23 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
It's a free market economy
And yes, Big John has the right to go to whomever is willing to overpay a guy who never won a Cy Young, never won 20 games, only 15+ games 1 time, like to yell at his teammates when they screw up and sleeps with everything that moves under the iconic structure in the stadium … wait, that last part isn’t so bad.
Anyway — yes, he’s a traitor. And I hope that the Yankees score 15 off him every time they see him.
"And the Anaheim Angels are the Champions of Baseball!"
by Grichfan on Dec 14, 2009 2:24 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Heck, even Barry Zito had one Cy Young award before signing for WAY too much money
for way too many years, giving the Giants way too much time to kick themselves for being STUPID
by Hoppity Hooper on Dec 14, 2009 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
This is bullshit...
I have never used any f-bombs on this site, and now I realize it was all waiting for today.
This is fucking bullshit. Not only do we lose John Lackey to of all people the fucking Red Sox, but we also are not fucking getting Roy Halladay, and to top it off in part of that deal Cliff Lee goes to the fucking Mariners. This day fucking sucks. But don’t worry we are going to sign Hideki Matsui. News flash: Hideki Matsui fucking sucks. On what fucking planet, even in Vlad’s shittier years, is Hideki Matsui better than Vlad? So we are not signing Vlad because we are getting Matsui. Fucking great. We are going to lose the AL West to the fucking Mariners, and even if by some miracle we don’t, we are going to get pounded in the ass in the first round of the playoffs. Don’t say good for John. Fuck this, fuck the Red Sox. We are fucked.
by ponusbaum43 on Dec 14, 2009 2:24 PM PST reply actions 7 recs
Agree completely ponus....
Even with all his faults I’d rather have Vlad than Matsui.
Who does Arte think we are that he can piss all over us like this? Does he expect to keep drawing 3 million fans plus per season when we’re coming in third place.?
by Jack Frost on Dec 14, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously
Be honest with me… Did Arte bang your wife? Or was it your mom? Why the Arte hate?
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
Because Arte is a businessman, plain and simple.
He doesn’t care about you or me. That would be fine, except for the fact that he has painted himself as some kind of “man of the people.” I am not saying that he doesn’t care about winning — I just think it takes a backseat to the bottom line with him.
Which is probably why he has more money in his checking account than I do
I care too much. I’m just so damn sensitive.
3rd Place?
We are still miles ahead of the Rangers and A’s. Seattle has improved no doubt but I still think we are the favorites to take the division.
But Matsui Sells RF seats and Billboards in Japan
Doesnt that make you feel better?
by Balls and Strikes on Dec 14, 2009 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
Being blind from rage makes it harder to type
Honestly, I’m really surprised with some of these choices players and owners make. It seems that this stuff happens without putting virtually any weight into how crappy this kind of stuff makes some fans feel.
Thanks Gomer, hope you enjoy bean town, and I hope they hate you when you get there
We take serious...comedically.
Beckett #1, Lackey #3
John, you are now THE BITCH
I loved you Lackey. Thanks for all the awesomeness. Thanks for Game 7.
You are now the enemy, bitch.
We are the Los Angeles Angels of the late 2000s
by Higz on Dec 14, 2009 2:27 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
85 MILLION DOLLAR BITCH....
sounds good to me….
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 14, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
Figgins will get cheered.
LAckey will never get any love here. Period. Fuck you very much Lackey.
Self-realization. I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "I drank what?"
The Geek.
by The OC Sports Geek on Dec 14, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
FIGGINS IS THE TRAITOR....
NOT LACKEY.
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 14, 2009 2:27 PM PST reply actions
Eh?
The M’s offered Figgins $20M more, and two more years, per the last media reports. There’s not a player in baseball that wouldn’t have taken that. And it’s hardly like the Ms are our arch-rivals or something.
Players take the big money, and the most years offered. Halos clearly didn’t make the high offers for either player.
by Turks Teeth on Dec 14, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
BUSINESS IS BUSINESS
this is a great lesson with lackey and figgy that when it comes down to it the fans are the most loyal people to an organization. lackey and figgy are prime examples that these guys we get attached to and pine over are: 1) family guys 2) ballplayers and 3) identified by their team. as don draper says," change, it’s not good, it’s not bad, it simply is."
by thejd on Dec 14, 2009 2:29 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
It's not just business for the fans
you should know I had angry eyebrows when I wrote this
We take serious...comedically.
Loyalty goes both ways
the team has to show loyalty as much as the player. As an organization we obviously did not want Big John or Figgy as much as some other teams and that’s ok. I think people are overreacting here. Figgins was one of my favorite players to ever wear the Angels uni. He busted his ass every single day and he always showed up (even when he struggled, he was always battling.) If there is someone we will miss, it will be Chone. Lackey was very good in the “pond” in which he developed. He’ll be average anywhere else. He’ll be picked up by Texas in a year or two and we’ll get to see him struggle. Bummer, but I think it is actually the smart move for us. People need to chill with all of the doomsday talk. There are plenty of guys under the radar that would fill gaps in our line up. Bar none, Abreu was the biggest difference for us last year, a cast off, who was “at the end of his career”. A collection of the game’s best players is an Allstar game roster and it rarely makes for a Series champ like it did this year. More often it is about cohesion and role players bridging the gap between the stars. We still have stars, both emerging and in bloom. We’ll be fine. Bay would be a great addition, Matsui is not the albatross that others want to make him out to be. We have plenty of trade bait and there are some arms to be had. The end is not nigh.
by JustS on Dec 14, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
does this mean that sheilds is the last one left from 2002?
i don’t think i missed anyone but may have
wondering what Ortiz did with that game ball...
That's been on my mind a lot since last season.
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If I had been asked back in 2002 which Halo would eventually be the last remaining player of that team, I would have said John Lackey. I really thought he was going to retire as a Halo, which makes this all the harder to accept.
"Don't worry about a thing,
'Cause every little thing gonna be all right!"
by Quad Fin Rider on Dec 14, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck this.
I’d like to re-enact a scene from Predator that captures my rage… I will play the part of Dutch, and John will be Dillon.
Me: What happened to you, John? You used to be someone I could trust.
John: I woke up. Why don’t you? You’re an asset. An expendable asset. And I used you to get the job done, got it?
End scene.
We all know what happens to big john by the end of this movie…. TRY PITCHING WITH ONE ARM, BITCH
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
Well, it's going to take him a lot longer than 5 years with the sox to figure out how to throw left
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Dec 14, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
In all fairness...
Dillon’s M16 kept firing after his arm got severed.
Not sure the point I’m trying to make here, but talking about Predator is a nice distraction. Cheerio.
We are the Los Angeles Angels of the late 2000s
firing randomly, in a circular motion.
obviously those would be balls / wild pitches.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Dec 14, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
Oh totally
Here’s to hoping Kaz and Ervin are the Jesse-Ventura-portable-gatling-guns that we all know they can be next year
We are the Los Angeles Angels of the late 2000s
ol' painless!
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Dec 14, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
I don't get the Jesse Ventura reference
But I want to see Kaz, Ervin, and Saunders all look like their 2008 selves.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
Jay, my friend
You really need to bone up on your Arnie movies. Please rent and watch Predator tonight and report back.
To get you in the proper frame, please enjoy the uncut tool shed scene from Commando!
Poll question: Who had a worse day today – Angels fans or the guy who took a circular saw blade to the gulliver?
We are the Los Angeles Angels of the late 2000s
I ain't got time to bleed
Missed it the first time.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
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My favorite Jackie Robinson story...
….had nothing to do with the race.
It had to do with loyalty.
Late in his career he got traded to the hated nemesis San Francisco Giants. Instead of playing with a team he had always hated, he decided to retire.
John Lackey is no Jackie Robinson. What a sellout.
I've got nothing.
by bc56274 on Dec 14, 2009 2:37 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Great story.
But what does it also say about the organization who traded him (or in this case, let him go)>
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The Giants did not offer Jackie $17 million a year to play baseball.
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
by Stirrups on Dec 14, 2009 5:03 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
John Lackey sucks
John Lackey does not have dominant stuff and was an alright pitcher. thanks to the Angels system Bud Black and Mike Butcher Lackey turned into a pretty good pitcher. What this team has done for him and he will turn his back on them for money. A team that the fans and him have been fighting for the last 5 years. thanks Big John I can’t wait to see the fans boo you when you come back. Way to be the most hated man in Anaheim.
Bring back Lackey
by Angelsrthebest101 on Dec 14, 2009 2:40 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I would have been fine with him signing with the mets but the red sox
Bring back Lackey
by Angelsrthebest101 on Dec 14, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
I think we get better compensation from the Sox.
I just hope they don’t make a move for Holliday.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
the mets were horrible last year
we would get better compensation from a worse team
Bring back Lackey
by Angelsrthebest101 on Dec 14, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
But aren't the horrible teams first round picks
protected.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
Yeah, so we wouldn't have gotten the Mets' first-round pick.
Boston pick is better.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
People stop whining and overreacting
Free agency is a part of baseball, we just deal with it. We’ve been afforded the opportunity to sign players away like hunter, vlad, etc. Yet when it hit homes and Figgins/Lackey suddenly leave, people act like its the end of the world and feel betrayed. Everyone was aware of this situtation for awhile, so dont act all surprised and cheated. In lackey’s reasoning if he cant beat them, why not join them. Let him enjoy that much tougher media market and see him crumble under the pressure. We’ll move on and sign sheets, bedard, etc to short term deals and outproduce him. Pennant fly forever and long live the rally monkey! We will be playoff bound again 2010, believe that…ya dig!!!
by MagicMike23 on Dec 14, 2009 2:41 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Get over yourselves folks...
He thinks he made the right move for him personally. We all hope that players do that to play FOR the Halos and we must live with the times when players make decisions that we dislike, or despise.
The Sox are a great team and Lackey won a WS once and has had no luck trying to return with the team that brought him up. He probably thinks that this gives him the best chance to win another series or three in his career.
He spent his best seasons in LAAoA, he was the winning pitcher in game 7 of the WS with the Halos. If this team wanted him badly enough they could have matched that offer – they made a business decision to not pay that much for Lackey. I agree with that decision and I, for one, am happy my team isn’t pissing away another $15 million for sentimental reasons. Years 3, 4 and 5 of this deal could be ugly.
I think it’s a good move by Reagins. Save up for next off-season when some amazing players are available.
RIP Nick...
Jim Scully
Jim Scully Home
by jimmuscomp on Dec 14, 2009 2:43 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
I'll politely disagree
I say fuck him. I hope he gets lit up.
by LA Seitz on Dec 14, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
I agree too, Seitz.
I don’t wish him personal ill-will, but certainly hope he gets rocked big-time every time he toes the rubber.
RIP Nick...
Jim Scully
Jim Scully Home
by jimmuscomp on Dec 14, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I can't bring myself to publicly rip Big John just yet
But you wrote exactly what I’m feeling…
"Don't worry about a thing,
'Cause every little thing gonna be all right!"
by Quad Fin Rider on Dec 14, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
Rec'd
Totally agree.
We weren’t paying $85 mil for Lackey. God bless him for getting it.
He brought us a title and nearly brought a couple more. Our teams failures weren’t his fault. Would have preferred he gone to the National League – Dodgers could have used him – but Boston still has a big bank account.
We may be in a world of hurt next year if Seattle gets Lee – or things may work out.
As much as it sucks to realize the 02 roster is down to a gimpy Shields, let’s hold off on the nonsense.
by Lee Stevens' Potential on Dec 14, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
Agree
Great username!
RIP Nick Adenhart
by stolenbases on Dec 15, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Such as who?
Exactly who of that class is going to be available after all the extensions are signed?
And you’re absolutely kidding yourself if you think, after the Lackey, Teixiera, Halladay, and M. Cabrera debacles that the Angels actually have a chance on Joe Mauer.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
No way.
Mauer is either staying in Minnesota, or going to the Skanks.
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
Exactly.
Arte will bid for him but won’t put up the money it takes to get him. He’ll get outbid, again.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Maybe Boston too
If they don’t resign Beckett and VMart
RIP Nick Adenhart
by stolenbases on Dec 15, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
it's fine...
Jeff Biggs will be on in 15 minutes to comfort us all.
Jeff Biggs
And his callers do nothing to make me feel better.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
I agree...
just being morbid on a morbid day.
+1
his callers are a fail to everything angels baseball. Can someone hear call and put some of these dudes in there place. Jeff Biggs is just to nice of a guy to do that.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
i believe i heard jay cal on Biggs show...
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Dec 14, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
I had to defend myself
Biggs asked me to call in, I won’t be calling in today.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
wow I used the wrong here.
What did you say on there.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Just told him that I preferred Dave Smith
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
who doesn't??
I’d probably rather have Biggs as an uincle, but geez it makes for bad radio.
AM830 site
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by BigKahunaMan on Dec 14, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
But what does Mel from Fullerton think about this?
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
I can't wait to hear Lackey say God led him to the Red Sox.
I've got nothing.
by bc56274 on Dec 14, 2009 2:49 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Just as long
as he doesn’t say “It wasn’t about the money”
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I'm feeling this offseason will be a look different in hindsight
I’m upset with renting Matsui and not keeping Vlad (hell i probably would’ve traded a playoff berth this year to keep him) or Figgins. I’m upset Lackey is not only not sticking around but signing with the sox. And I’m upset that we missed out on Halladay and the Mariners signed Lee.
But we wind up with a shload of high draft picks, keep our prospects, have four young pitchers (all of whom still have upside, with perhaps the exception of Saunders) and a great set-up for the next off-season.
I was pretty much about to write next season off but we have youth in a lot of the right places. Our F O could come out looking geniuses in a few years for trusting in our guys. That being said, pretty emotional day.
wondering what Ortiz did with that game ball...
i'm studying for an organic chem final
please excuse the fact that i can’t write a sentence. my hearts in the right place
wondering what Ortiz did with that game ball...
rent Matsui for a year...
so next year we are players for Mauer, Cain, Street, Crawford, and hopefully Pujols, Rollins, Reyes, Werth.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
completely agree
wondering what Ortiz did with that game ball...
I'm buying on all
except Street, Rollins, and Werth. It would be awesome to be able to get Cain. Pujols won’t happen. Not a chance, short of StL falling into the Mighty Mississippi.
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Most of that list
still won’t be in Anaheim in 2011. Matt Cain is the only one I see coming into Anaheim.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
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i would be happy with cain
agree with slasher on street, rollins and werth though. Pujols wont happen and I doubt Mauer would either (but it would be .awesome)
wondering what Ortiz did with that game ball...
i would...
pay $1000, a lifetime supply of corn nuts, 10 slurpees, 20 orders of garlic parmesean fries from the Ruby’s in left field, the left giant Angels hat at Angel Stadium, a John Lackey bobblehead, a copy of MVP Baseball 2004 for PS2 with him on the cover, my PS2, a 32" LCD TV from Howard’s, my right shoelace, a piece of Doublemint gum, my used spare tire, a copy of Cat’s Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut with my writing all over it, a wireless desktop set, my argyle Angels hat (and whoever wanted to get rid of theirs as well can contribute), a box of assorted Krispy Cremes, and a guarantee for just under 50,000 screaming fans every game for Albert Pujols.
the offer is there, Albert. all you gotta do is sign on the dotted line.
x___________________
You forgot...
your left nut
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by Angel Hawker on Dec 14, 2009 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
i prefer...
giving my right nut, if it came down to it. that one gets in the way a little more.
dont forget curtis granderson !
IT COULD HAPPEN
by BigBangRobbDawgg on Dec 14, 2009 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
I wish I could agree
It’s rational thinking if we actually signed FA’s. I have just lost all faith in our ability to sign top names.
by RedAces on Dec 14, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
yuppers
That is the thing.
I am fine with Lackey and Figgins taking more money than the Angels decided they were worth.
BUT, they had better not go cheapo with all those picks. Take the best player you can get regardless of bonus. I know sometimes teams skimp on bonuses when they have so many picks, but 2010 is not the time for the Angels to do THAT.
Agree
Stock up the system with the best talent available.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by stolenbases on Dec 15, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
$10 says we Redsox fans won't be acting like this when Bay signs wherever.
So the continued rivalry with LAAAAAA Angels just got a bit more interesting……
"Hating the New York Yankees is as American as apple pie, unwed mothers and cheating on your income tax." -- Mike Royko
Yep, it sure did.
I love the rivalry. Just not happy with the way things are shaking out today.
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I must admit you have some work cut out for you guys.
I still root for the Angels over Texas and Oakland so I want you guys to win the wildcard, while the Sox win the East and etc…..
"Hating the New York Yankees is as American as apple pie, unwed mothers and cheating on your income tax." -- Mike Royko
by sox-inda-south on Dec 14, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
Good comparison
A guy who played a year and a half with your franchise compared to a guy who came up through the system and spent eight years on the major league roster. They’re like apples and apples!
Yeah, you guys sure were gracious to Johnny Damon when he signed "wherever"
"Don't worry about a thing,
'Cause every little thing gonna be all right!"
by Quad Fin Rider on Dec 14, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
Its a little different when a player says he'll never do something and then does just that.
That’s called hypocrasy. I don’t know if they teach that word out west.
I support of LAAAAAA, I do want you guys to be competitive next year. Our rivalry won’t be the same if otherwise.
"Hating the New York Yankees is as American as apple pie, unwed mothers and cheating on your income tax." -- Mike Royko
by sox-inda-south on Dec 14, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
You’re correct
"hypocrasy" [sic] is not a word taught out west or anywhere else in the civilized world – must only be found in some retarded Boston vernacular. Maybe I should introduce you to the word "absurd" – as in "It is absurd to compare the fan reaction of losing a home grown World Series hero to the loss of some guy who was little more than a one year rental."
"Don't worry about a thing,
'Cause every little thing gonna be all right!"
by Quad Fin Rider on Dec 14, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
To be fair, that was one of the funniest things I've seen in baseball.
Looks like Jesus, acts like Judas, throws like Mary.
by TheKingfish on Dec 14, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
If I were a Sox fan, I would be thrilled that my GM isn't shelling out for Bay
I would be crying if the Angels signed him to 4/60 million.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by stolenbases on Dec 15, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
it's okay...
Lackey sucks at Fenway, remember?
by ghsu on Dec 14, 2009 3:11 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
for some reason that doesn't console me
wondering what Ortiz did with that game ball...
Who said?
We fly flags?
Was that Lackey?
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We'll keep the motto.
The Sox can have the speaker.
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there is no TEAM in Angels
Business as usual. Trade our best to our arch enemy. Remember the World Series in which we won? The TEAM, won that year because it was a TEAM. TEAMS win World Series, not corporations. I know, I’m just not being logical. Ball clubs play the season, TEAMS play in the play-offs. I use to know who was on whose team, but now its like musical chairs. You have to learn the players and teams all over again each season.
When you talk about outstanding players and winners, they are usually associated with 1 TEAM. I wonder why? DON’T YOU? Oh well, baseball, like the stimulous package, is a bait and switch program.
And as I always say, (lately). “TGFN” ( THANK GOD FOR NASCAR )
Is this your pitch for Adam Kennedy and Scott Spiezio?
We didn’t trade John Lackey.
Since you’re a nascar fan, and probably coming down from meth fumes, it might be a little hard to understand… But i find it funny that you have to take a shot at business in baseball, while nascar whores itself out on the daily to corporate sponsors.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Dec 14, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
Pardon Me...
Which team corporation just won the World Series?
John Lackey was my favorite Angel
I don’t really have any words right now. The Lee/Halladay fiasco is just another kick to the groin on this kick-in-the-balls kind of day
he was my favorite Angel too, loved to watch him pitch, and for the Angel fans bad talking him, he has a lot to do with the ANgels only World Series in game 7. He is an Angel hall of famer, I wish Arte would of done anything to keep him a life long Angle, our rotation scares me now.
Even if Halladay was traded, which wont happen we would give up another starter, this would be three starters gone in a year. I do not count Escobar being a factor for the Halos.
by Ca1IFORNIA ANGELS on Dec 14, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
omg!
if this happens halo fans are gonna boo lackey, not figgins
now the angels have to go all out on getting halladay.
You didn't get the memo?
Halladay is in Philly.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
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Yeah this went through quite some time ago.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Welcome to the Weaver, Morales, Wood Era
The torch has officially been passed to a new generation.
Scot Shields is now the respected elder.
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Am I dreaming?
Glad we did not pay that kind of money for Lackey. M’s can have Lee he sucked last year in the AL where the better hitters are. Us not getting Halliday sucks big time. Us potentially signing Matsui? Please no!!!! I don’t want no Yankee reject.
Hey atleast we get another draft pick!
That’s three in the first round or Matsui offered Arb.??
First we had a Salmon and now we have a Trout, let's see the same results.
pretty sure
no on the matsui arb
wondering what Ortiz did with that game ball...
Well, at least now Lackey will get the recognition he deserves from the media.
They’re already starting to blow all over him over at ESPN.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
I can almost guarantee that if he had re-signed with the Angels, or even with the M's, it would have been noted in a small footnote somewhere.
Instead of the big headline in their MLB section.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Well, he did get his props from MLBN...
I remember a “Hot Stove” before the winter meetings where they discussed “Free Agent Pitchers NOT named John Lackey”.
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
Well I suppose this is true.
Meh.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Nope, not a traitor
This is Scioscia’s doing. Its been simmering since Scios yanked him in the playoff game in favor of Darren Oliver. No surprise, just revenge whether or not logical. At least the Angels’ playoff choking will be behind him and he’ll get another chance to go to the WS. Too bad it had to happen this way, but when its money its inevitable.
Losing lots of respect for the Angels front office
Lackey was complaining since the last off season saying that the Angels are not even trying. I don’t blame Lackey. It is starting to be clear that we are only about signing some veteran free agents and hope for Morales 2.0’s.
I think Arte has seen that the Doyers don’t spend much in a big market city and still bring in the fans. I’m not going to be used like that. I aint going to another Angel game until I see them put our money to good use..
I know I’m going to get lit up for this comment but I aint nobodys biatch!!!
hurt and disgusted
But, not upset at Lackey and calling him a trader I do not agree. He took the most money offered and his problems with Scioscia I just think was huge. He did not want to sign a contract and play for someonehe has had run ins with. Most of this Angel fans here, thought that was the last time we would see him in an Angel uniform.
Now the sad news, no Halladay with the three way trade and now Seattle will get Lee. Then Reagins wants to sign a 35 year old Matsui for one year? Where is this team headed? My goodness, What direction in our GM going? Or lets say owner? Very very sad, our pitching will hurt. Id rather Sign Vlad then Matsui.
I have no hard feelings for Lackey, he was a favorite of mine, a bull dog. I wish we had Bill stoneman back, the one thing he did was build our minor leagues and our pitching.
SO we lose Adenhart and now Lackey, no depth in our rotation and our two signings this offseason is 35 and older.
If this is a one year fix, crap sign Washburn,
Finally, Harverys Mustache, you do not need to say anything, but would be nice for you to mature and grow up. Having a feeling your under 23 and you are nothing but disrespectful to some on here, with your foul mouth.
by Ca1IFORNIA ANGELS on Dec 14, 2009 3:42 PM PST reply actions
it is a fact
it has to be taken into account – in addition to the tragedy, Nick wasn’t just a pitcher, he was a top prospect that the organization had spent years cultivating.
still, adenhart's loss didn't have anything to do with our fo or owner
and their so called “ineptitude,” so i don’t see the point of bringing it up here.
"come on, eileen."
Look, it will ever be part of our history, like Bostock. We are all hurt by Nicks death. He was a great kid, and had such a bright future. But as Len Bias it hurt the Celtics for years, so it has to be brought up.
(not cool mentioning adenhart here, dude.) I never spoke in a negative tone, his loss is devastating.
by Ca1IFORNIA ANGELS on Dec 14, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
not saying you were, just saying
given the context of your post, it was unnecessary.
"come on, eileen."
and who the hell are you to question age difference
oh automatically because we are below the age of 23 we are immature and need to grow up. Its an emotional reaction and to say we are not allowed to feel this way after losing a franchise player is bs. The Angels have not made any moves to really improve the team. Sorry I’m upset but saying we need to grow up because we are upset is bs.
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Dec 14, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
Well, I'm 24
So yeah, if you’re younger than me you’re immature.
;)
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by Commander_Nate on Dec 14, 2009 6:19 PM PST up reply actions
age isnt a difference, but Harverys mustache with his foul language gets old. I am \ upset with the Halos and management. Looks like the only signings are DH’s over 35 who cannot play the outfield, Aberu and Mats.
by Ca1IFORNIA ANGELS on Dec 14, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
Dude chill out...
I don’t think Lackey had any hard feelings toward Sosh, he just didn’t like getting pulled from games. Lackey did this because of money. Plain and simple.
You seriously want Stoneman back? The guy was an alright GM, but I believe Reagins has done a MUCH better job. Outside of the trade for Rivera/Izturis and the signing of Vlad (which in my opinion was more about Arte than Stoneman) What did Stoneman do that was so great? Think of all the BAD signings. HGH, Finley, Hillenbrand, & bunch of crappy bullpen guys. Not to mention he was never able to get a needed trade done midseason (see Tex & Kaz).
You really want Washburn back? He really isn’t that good. I think SOS could duplicate Washburn for a fraction of the cost.
And finally, just by BHM screen name, I bet he’s way over 23.
Peanuts...Get your Overpriced Peanuts!
by Angel Hawker on Dec 14, 2009 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
stoneman
I for one, would complain, for his lack of making big trades. But, as time passes I appreciate more and more what he did for the franchise. We were so rich in pitching from the minors to the majors with Stoneman,
Anyone agree? I feel we now are very thin with our pitching. I think the Halos should trade for Washburn and in June maybe make a trade for a big pitcher whose team is not going anywhere. But, what do we have to trade?
Also here the sox is offering 15.5 for the Left handed Cuban pitcher who can hit 100. Maybe, Arte can get him and ease black Monday.
by Ca1IFORNIA ANGELS on Dec 14, 2009 4:05 PM PST reply actions
The Aroldis Chapman Sweepstakes begins tomorrow
In Houston.
Moreno should attend and bring Kendry with him.
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by Commander_Nate on Dec 14, 2009 4:08 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Sox have already made him an offer, apparently.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Roid Sox already made Chapman an offer today
And if today’s multiple fiascos are at all prophetical, it’s not hard to see Theo and the other GMs drinking Reagins milkshake again tomorrow.
"Don't worry about a thing,
'Cause every little thing gonna be all right!"
by Quad Fin Rider on Dec 14, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sadly, yep.
Come ON Reagins! Where’s your Ninja plan?
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
also
Here Rex Sox looking at Adrian Gonzalez. It is all about the Yanks and the Sox, but Lee going the the Mariners hurts too. Plus we still have Juan Rivera :(
by Ca1IFORNIA ANGELS on Dec 14, 2009 4:11 PM PST reply actions
MLBTR is now quoting Rivera for Lowe as a possibility
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10523430/Source:-Halladay-to-Phils,-Lee-to-M%27s-in-blockbuster
Oh hell no!
I’m fine witth digging down Lowe in the barrel, but we should at least trade contract for contract cough GMJ cough.
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If Arte and Reagins are all about saving $$
Then why trade Rivera’s friendly contract for the albatross of a contract Lowe has?
Rivera: 2010 – $3.25m, 2011 – $3.25m
Lowe: 2010 – $15m, 2011 – $15m, 2012 – $15m
Precisely this is why I am hoping for a GMJ-Matthews trade
Possibly with some money being moved around.
At least Lowe we would have a spot for and he could prove useful.
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by Commander_Nate on Dec 14, 2009 5:41 PM PST up reply actions
GMJ-Lowe
This place needs an “edit” function.
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by Commander_Nate on Dec 14, 2009 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
I kind of like the GMJ for Matthews trade
Maybe we’d get the “other” Gary Matthews Jr in return. You know, the one actually WORTH 10 mil a year?
by Hoppity Hooper on Dec 14, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
Just say no to Lowe
Awful contract, most of his success has been in the NL other than a few years in Boston, and more worrisome is he’s starting to show regression. I would only consider this if we could somehow throw GMJ into the deal or if Atlanta is willing to pick up a substantial portion of Lowe’s contract.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by stolenbases on Dec 15, 2009 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
More of an ass
than an ace
If they want to pay him that much, then so be it. Good for him, better for the Angels.
He was good for the Angels, but I see DL time and 4.50 era’s in the future.
f his mole
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Dec 14, 2009 4:13 PM PST reply actions
Say it with me
In a Rudolph floating away on the ice berg after leaving Yukon and Hermie sort of way:
Goodbye Figgins. I hope you become a great dentist.
Goodbye Lackey. I hope you find lots of silver.
Goodbye Rex. I hope you don’t have to go through anymore KC airports.
What in the hell is happening to our team here? What a crappy Monday.
by Lompoc Angel Fan on Dec 14, 2009 4:17 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Goodbye Quinlan. I hope.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Dec 14, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
hahaha
Now stuck in Colorado Springs
by stuck in Romania on Dec 14, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
We've got a case of the Mondays!
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Although I have to admit
It is promising to look at our team leaders from 2009 and realize that they are all coming back. Wins? Saundo and Weaver: 16. I don’t see any any Lackey there. RBI’s? Morales and Abreu and Hunter. All back. Ok so I skipped the Runs and Walks categories. Sue me.
by Lompoc Angel Fan on Dec 14, 2009 4:21 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
So whoever replaces Figgins
is going to score ZERO runs?
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes
by johnnyangel101 on Dec 14, 2009 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
YES!! BECAUSE NO ONE CAN REPLACE FIGGY AND THEY WILL JUST HAVE TO PUT A CAN OF TUNA AT 3RD!!!!1!
damned cough syrup.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
by opiejeanne on Dec 14, 2009 7:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It has codeine!!! Wooot!
Seriously, why am I sick AGAIN?!!! I can’t afford to be sick right now: finals week in my art classes, Thursday is mr opiejeanne’s Last Day at Work, EVAH!, and I’m rescuing him from the office Christmas party at 2 in order to pick up our older daughter and son-in-law at LAX.
I’m too busy to be sick. When I’m dead I’ll have time to be sick.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
not happy about any of this
cmon Angels
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Dec 14, 2009 4:21 PM PST reply actions
Only thing I would call good news that's come out of today.
Fingers crossed the rest of the offseason is less like today.
He may turn out ok
Remember last year when not many were excited about Abreu after Tex left?
Maybe this will be similar, but still very rough day.
Rivera to the Braves for Lowe
Angels sign Bay to a 5 year 80 Million dollar contract.
Angels sign Matt Capps
Everything is fine.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
I still fail to see why people are so high on getting rid of Rivera.
He’s cheap, still relatively young, has a lot of upside, and was very valuable to the club last year with an above average OPS+. The other time he was given consistent playing time he made a 126 OPS+. Why on Earth we would get rid of him is beyond me. If we sign Bay, he’s not automatically crowded out. Signing Matsui creates crowdage, but remember Rivera can play first (if Morales goes down), and second!, too.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Ya, the only way I can see trading Rivera
is if someone who really wants him makes us an incredible offer.
But not seeing him getting traded for Lowe.
Rivera had one productive month
as is his MO.
The fact he is so cheap is attractive to other clubs, and trading him creates room.
All the money Arte was setting aside to sign Figgins, Lackey, or Halladay now can be used on getting an elite hitting LF.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
Me too
I guess the traditional stats folks see people like Bay and his numbers as being way sexier than Rivera even though Rivera is the more valuable player than Bay at a fraction of the cost.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by stolenbases on Dec 15, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
Fuck that.
I want Zach Duke, im sure a trade can be made.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck that.
I want Zack Grienke, im sure a trade can be made.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
why cant we bring them both?
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck that.
I want Tim Lincecum, Zack Grienke, Nolan Ryan, and Babe Ruth, im sure a trade can be made and a time machine can be built.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
Im sure I can build a flux capacitor.
give me a week.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
dude if you can give me a week.
I can make sure we have Halladay, Grienke, Lincecum, Cain, and Duke in the Angels rotation, trust.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
Knowing Reagins, we'll probably just end up getting Ted Williams frozen head
"Don't worry about a thing,
'Cause every little thing gonna be all right!"
by Quad Fin Rider on Dec 14, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
STOP WITH THE "TRADE RIVERA" BULL ISHT!!!
We already have an outfielder to move: Gary Matthews Jr.
Swap him and his contract for that of Derek Lowe or something.
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by Commander_Nate on Dec 14, 2009 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
Somewhere out there a young girl cries...
…the tears of love lost. Forever. She now ponders her future…what could have been. What he promised. What now can never be.
Big Thunder has taken his last ride.
She hangs her head in shame…and weeps some more. He…he…betrayed me!
Did Boston forget to sign Lackey's fav strike-force girl?
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 15, 2009 8:09 AM PST up reply actions
Heyman on 570
1. Angels would not go 5 on Lackey
2. Halladay a long shot because of the spring training . We were way down the list.
He says it was a very damaging day for the Angels chances also. He broke both of these stories FYI.
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
570? whos on right now.
I usually tune to the Tony Bruno show, its good shit.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
we have seen this time and time again
(in no particular order):
glaus, spiezio, kennedy, erstad, garret anderson…
Very good point...
And can you name any one of those players that had an above average year after leaving?
"F@&* it, lets pitch"
-Ervin Santana
by pendletonmike on Dec 14, 2009 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
Kennedy this year?
I dunno?
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
i mean when he left he was still a fan favorite (sort of)
hitting 3 hr in the clinching alcs will do that to ya.
mike, good point
Yeah, this is true.
!
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Don't get me wrong...
Although I now hate John, I will always love game 7. Memories are just that… memories… Kennedy gave us a great on too, and the Angels let him go at the right time. We have young guys that have the chance to step it up this year.
"F@&* it, lets pitch"
-Ervin Santana
by pendletonmike on Dec 15, 2009 7:53 AM PST up reply actions
When's the last time we lost our #1 starter?
Weaver, Saunders, Kazmir and Santana will eat a lot of innings, but there’s not a #1 there. These guys will eat a lot of innings, but not much more.
We better hope to hell that Santana’s elbow is fully healed…..Reckling is at least a year away, and Matt Palmer should never be confused with JIM Palmer.
by mustard_man on Dec 15, 2009 12:43 AM PST up reply actions
No no, that's for when Aybar goes and becomes the next Bronx Jeter.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
SHUT UP WHINEY BITCHES
in one post, most people say, “you’d do the same thing”. In another post, most people are congratulating Chone Figgins for doing what John Lackey did. As I see it, this is the Boston Red Sox saying we will never win our own division and in case we get the wild card, let’s hope we have a motivated Lackey to face his old team.
Assuming Vlad is not coming back too, I really want to know what the Angels organization is trying to say by allowing 3 out of the 4 identifying “face players” of the franchise go elsewhere.
Assuming no major names that are worth signing end up Halos I say Arte is making a financial decision based on our floundering economy. And with the way the Angels hold on to their prospects I say now is the perfect time for the Angels to nut up and show us Halo fans why we never traded them.
My faith is in Arte.
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
Well I'm losing my faith...
Fast! The FO blew it with the Halladey thing. But the Lackey thing I blame on Lackey- hell the Angels offered him an extension $72 for 4 years and he turned it down- that works out at $18 M per year- Boston repotedly gave him $85 M for 5 years- That works out at $17 M per year. He just wanted out, the ungrateful, hateful dickhead fishface.
Xavier Calvera
you know
players usually take years instead of money. Job security and guaranteed money is always nice. I will never lose faith in the angels even if we have one bad year. We might not win the division next year or we might win the world series. Who knows? But don’t lose faith in the FO for not overpaying Lackey.
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Dec 14, 2009 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
The World Is Not Ending
We will all wake up tomorrow morning, return to Halos Heaven, and be ready to take in the days FA news. We will all be giddy like a 4 year old on XMas the day the first pitch is thrown at the Big A and will suffer through another season of ups and downs. Trust the FO to do their jobs, they have done a pretty damn good job so far and if my math is correct we are going to have a TON of money to spend coming up and have a young talented core to build around. Believe in what we have and be glad we aren’t drowning 15+ a year a player we simply don’t know will be healthy enough. Keep plugging away and peace be the journey!
2009 Angels Offseason = Cardiac Roller Coaster
Halladay? Lackey? Bay? Holliday? Del Taco?
Thanks Lackey for the memories...
Good luck and break a leg!!!
Now stuck in Colorado Springs
by stuck in Romania on Dec 14, 2009 5:35 PM PST reply actions
Ridiculous take per usual from Rev Halofan
John Lackey is a great Angel and everyone should remember him fondly. This is part of the game and Lackey is doing what is best for him financially. Artie could have matched but chose not to.
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didn't know that thanks
Rev isn’t a very smart baseball observer but there are a lot of other smart/savy Angel fans here. The problem with this place is Rev makes some terrible posts that are tough to avoid.
This post is almost as bad as when he blamed the Umps in the ALCS after the Halos got crushed in game 4.
If I find a better group of Angel fans, I won’t be back.
by NewportHalo on Dec 14, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey, maybe you can lead your own site!
That way you can create entertaining posts on a daily basis.
Did Rev drop a deuce in your cheerios or something?
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Why don't you go over to Rev's house and blow him?
You seem to love him so God damned much. I’m not saying I agree with this guy, but you’re just kissing waaaaay too much ass here
RIP Nick. We will miss you!
What do I have to gain? Are there Halo Bucks on the line that I'm not aware of?
I just respect the work of a person who helps make all of this possible. Coming up with material daily isn’t easy, and the unmerited criticism is unnecessary.
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I work for money
I watch sports for entertainment. I’m not a sports writer and neither is Rev (obviously).
by NewportHalo on Dec 14, 2009 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like Newport doesn't know the proper meaning of the word
RIDICULOUS.
But I dish it out, so I can take it, too bad nobody with half a brain will bring it on…
Half a brain? I'll take that challenge.
Rev, you are to blame. I read on your site that all this happened, so it must be your fault. We lost Lackey, Figgy, Halladay in exchange for Matsui and a can of tuna to play 3B.
You owe Angel fans everywhere an apology.
Rev, "see the light"
You are ripping a guy for taking 17 million dollars. I don’t know anyone who would turn down that money. Everyone talks about loyalty but people change jobs for more money in the real world all the time.
John Lackey pitched his ass off for this organization for many years. He gave everything he had and was a fierce competitor. He was a free agent and took the best offer. There is no shame in that.
If you are upset about John Lackey leaving, blast the organization. They are the ones who came up short. Show some balls. Don’t blast the guy who has a short career and must maximize his income because after his career will have almost no tangible skills to earn a living.
You won’t blast the organization because you like whatever air time they will give you on 830.
As for me, I understand the decision both ways. I know that Lackey had no choice but to take the Sox offer. I also understand the Angels choosing not to sign a 31 year old pitcher with declining swinging strike rates and injury concerns to a 5 year contract. The Angels, while a big market club, are not in the same league financially as the Yanks and Sox. That is reality.
You should wish John Lackey good luck and good health in Boston, except when he faces the Halos. He was a huge piece to the organization winning their only championship and should be celebrated, not criticized in such a classless manner.
by NewportHalo on Dec 14, 2009 11:42 PM PST up reply actions
ZZzzzzz....
Why are you spending your time telling me how I should feel and what I should do?
Don’t tell me how to feel about this or what I should do about this.
SHOULD SHOULD SHOULD… man, you are a real drag.
haha
I guess you couldn’t stand up to my well response. The guy was a great Angels. He is in the top 15 on your list of the top Angels. Yet, because he accepts a better offer he is suddenly Benedict Arnold.
I’m not telling you how you should feel, I’m telling you how someone who objectively looks at the situation should see it. You have proven time and again to not be objective.
Why did you issue a warning? I have not cursed or personally attacked you. I’ve stated exactly why your opinion is wrong and the reason (in my opinion of course) why you won’t blast the organization for not matching the offer by the Sox.
Are you going to ban all people who disagree with you now?
For what it is worth, if Lackey had left for Boston and the Halos offer was in the same area financially as the Sox, your “traitor” stance may have had some merit. Under the current set of facts, it doesn’t.
exactly
if you come to my team you are not a traitor, if you leave my team for a rival, you are a traitor.
I am not unbiased and I make no pretense to being biased. There … in your words “PROVEN”…
If I made the Top Ten List today, John Lackey might be as high as #8 in fact.
Making him all the more … A TRAITOR.
Speaking of "Not blasting a guy"
Don’t blast the guy who has a short career and must maximize his income because after his career will have almost no tangible skills to earn a living.
Way to go chump……..
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 15, 2009 8:12 AM PST up reply actions
That is reality
The guy hasn’t gone to college and hasn’t done anything but play baseball for the last 12 years. Lackey is going to finish his career and not know what to do. None of us would. I am friends with a pretty prominent former player (not an Angel) who has retired and doesn’t do much. He spends time with his family and travels but you get the sense he is board. He doesn’t have a job like the rest us and he has said a few times he isn’t sure what to do with the rest of his life.
well one suggestion on what he should do from a few thousand years ago:
sell all you have, give your money to the poor and follow Jesus Christ.
I always liked Big John...
…but he always seemed to think he was playing for a small-town club. He got mad when others made mistakes but no one freaked out when he did. I’ll never forget his performance in Game 7 and he was a stud for years, but this is the ONE team I was not okay with. I get the Yankees; players want to be part of that ludicrously successful history. But the Red Sox? That’s a big middle finger to Angels fans everywhere.
I take solace in that the “biggest free agent pitcher on the market” got one-upped by the Halladay trade. No front page for your betrayal, John.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart - Always an Angel
Instead of another pointless "well this sucks thread"
answer me this – how many of you have already jumped ship for 2010?
For me, I am worried – mainly because there no leader in the clubhouse now. Hunter yes, but not like Vladdy (to the Spanish player, guess Big Cuban is the new guy), Lackey, or Chone. But you need to have faith people. Everyone starts out 0-0.
We have this guy named Abreu
Perhaps you’ve heard of him?
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by Commander_Nate on Dec 14, 2009 6:21 PM PST up reply actions
I would be fine with this if it wasn't our arch enemy
but John of all people knows what the Red Sox are to Angel fans. This is a big “FUCK YOU” to all of us.
Fuck you John, you goofy looking, snaggle-toothed hick!
Go fuck yourself
On another note, we as a team are completely screwed. We lost Lackey, Halliday, and Lee. We don’t have the depth to make it deep. We just don’t. And there’s nobody left to go get. We absolutely HAD to get one of them, and Tony failed miserably. Inexcusable. Why is Arte being to fucking tight with his purse this offseason?? Does he like losing in the playoffs??
RIP Nick. We will miss you!
Saying there is nobody left to get is silly.
Obviously there is no one left of Halladay or Lackey’s caliber, but I’m not entirely sure we need someone on that level. There are plenty of low risk, high reward players who could prove to be solid #3s or so in the rotation,there are a really good pitchers we might be able to land in a trade and we still have Weaver, Saunders, Santana, and Kazmir.
Did today end well? No, but there are still quite a few moves that can be made this offseason.
Exactly.
Everything is gonna be alright. A lot of my fellow Halo fans are angry right now. But do you know who’s even more angry? Mets fans. They wanted Lackey real bad. They don’t get him and to top things off the Phils get Halladay. The Mets fans are ready to burn Citi Field down to the ground.
Ben Sheets
we gotta get him. he could be this yr’s bobby abreu.
by The Blake Griffin Era on Dec 14, 2009 6:38 PM PST reply actions
Some people are so emo...
I love how Reagins is a failure and Moreno is tight because this team “failed” to give up too much for Halladay or Lee, or overpay for Lackey.
“Failing” to sign Teixera ruined last season, if you recall. There is a reason they play the game on grass, not paper.
Whew!
That was a close one. For a few days, I thought WE were going to pony up $85MM for a Bill Gullickson-type pitcher.
So: we lost a good, but not great pitcher, and a Bip Roberts lookalike, leaving money to REALLY improve the team in the future (yes, the big splash may be next winter boys).
I think this proves that our front office is really……smart.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes
by johnnyangel101 on Dec 14, 2009 7:01 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
We'll see!
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Since we're going with a Revolutionary War-type theme here
Let’s have this conversation against Big John come playoff time next year:
Scene: Fenway. ALDS Game 5. Score 1-0, Boston. Weaver has just pitched the game of his life. Big John is about to finish it off against the Halos. Hunter gets on base to lead things off. Izturis pops out to deep right and Hunter advances to second. Matsui strikes out. Wood comes to the plate.
The count is 0-2. Wood fouls a few off, suddenly looks weak when he seems to twist his ankle. He stays in. Lackey takes a menacing look at Wood, then at the dugout and Scioscia.
Lackey: You said one us would go down before this was over. It looks like you were not the better man after all, Mike.
Lackey throws a curve, the very strike that has haunted Wood all year. Suddenly Wood reacts just so, swings with a heave—and sends the ball FLYING over the Green Monster. Farther than even Manny Ramirez hit it in Game 2, 2007.
Rich Thompson and Sean O’Sullivan, filling in for an injured Fuentes, close it out.
In the ensuing celebration, Scioscia looks over to Big John.
Scioscia (stoically): You’re right. My prospects were better men.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Hahaha! You have Lackey closing for the Sox?
And better yet, Rich Thompson and SOS closing for us.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
No no, I meant to add that he was pitching a complete-game shutout.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
And the Thompson/SOS thing was because I couldn't think of other prospects.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Ok, that makes more sense but it was funnier the other way.
No love for Palmer? I have to admit that I do remember SOS having some success at first, and he looked like Jack Black. I think the batters he faced figured him out, though, so he needs Butcher to show him a new pitch or two.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
LMAO!
That made me feel better!
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by Angel Hawker on Dec 14, 2009 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
Me too!
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
That was pretty good.
They shouldn’t have done his voice like how he looks, instead of how he really sounds. Like a redneck with a head cold.
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i dont see Lackey as a traitor, the dude took the money & got his paid day.
This is a business. Lackey and Figgy were looking out for their famileis. Can you blame them?
I am an Angel fan, not a Lackey or Figgens fan(not now anyway). All of a sudden by favorite DH is Matisu. i only remember one guy who showed some loyalty. SALMON!!!
WS in 10
I just had a thought
The Red Sox are paying Lackey 17 million a season to be their #3 guy.
Won’t this very likely end up with their #1 and #2 arguing that they deserve more than Lackey?
It seems like it might backfire on the Red Sox from that perspective.
They'll probably pay it.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Lackey
I for one want to buy a ticket for the game where Lackey pitches at Angel Stadium. I want to give him what he deserves a massive booing. He turned his back on the Angels and the fans that supported him. He went to enemy he spent 6 years fighting they finally won a battle and he jumps ship. He is a traitor. The Angels brought him up and helped become the pitcher he is today. I hope he sucks this year.
Bring back Lackey
by Angelsrthebest101 on Dec 14, 2009 8:03 PM PST reply actions
Also....
With the Angels wiffing of roy halladay and Lackey they have a weak rotation. A rotation of Santana, Saundo, Weaver, Kazmir, and Sean O Sullivan/Trevor Bell. Not very scary and we don’t have an ace in that group. That pitching will not win in the playoffs and if one of those guys goes down we are in big trouble.
Bring back Lackey
by Angelsrthebest101 on Dec 14, 2009 8:07 PM PST reply actions
Why cant Weaver win 18 & step into that role?
WS in 10
by salmonforever on Dec 14, 2009 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
He could but I don't see his stuff can sustain the longevity of a season maybe but I don't see it.
Bring back Lackey
by Angelsrthebest101 on Dec 14, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
As it stands now...
Weaver is good for 13-16 wins. Santana (I hope his arm stays intact, and he keeps his good “even” year stat-line going) is good for 11-14. Kazmir could get somewhere between 12-15 assuming his arm stays attached. Saunders is a winner, and has 16 and 17 wins in 09 and 08. If the #5 spot can get between 8-10 wins, I don’t see any reason why this rotation couldn’t be in the top third of the AL, at worst.
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Good point, we ,may not have an ace, but 1-4 we are are pretty good.
Sign a mid level free agent pitcher until one of the kids is ready. If we get to July we make a deal if we need to for an Ace
WS in 10
by salmonforever on Dec 14, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
pretty damn good
Weaver should start this season on a mission to be an All-Star after his snub this past season. And I think that our 4 starters will have a very healthy and very wide open competition to be the ace of the staff.
I, for one, am excited. Today is the beginning of a new chapter in Angels baseball. All that’s left from the 2002 team is Scot Shields, so I’m intrigued to see what this core of Angels can do. I was extremely pissed when I found out about Lackey to the Red Sox, but then I thought about the rest of the team and I still like our chances. Even if we face Boston again in the playoffs, our players know Lackey’s stuff, what he likes to throw in certain situations and whatnot.
2009 was good. Now on to 2010 - Let's go Halos!
Do the Halos have some sort of ceremony
where they are going to make Lackey stand, ala Chuck Conners, in full uni in front of the team, and Sosh walks up to him and rips the #34 patch off of his jersey?
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
I will miss Lackey's competitive spirit the most.
We simply don’t have another guy that wants it, that wants to be a champion, as passionately as Lackey does.
True, he obviously does not have his emotions in check when he’s out there. But he is an absolute gamer, he has a fire that burns deep and bright, and he is the only Angel pitcher I’ve seen this decade when at times he simply decides that he’s not going to give up a run and that’s the end of it. I remember that game at Oakland where he threw that perfect game after the first batter. That playoff gem against the Sox this fall reminded me of that game. He simply was not going be beaten that night and that was that.
He does have his flaws.
I think John wanted to leave though. I believe it’s a fact that he doesn’t have complete games that he would’ve had on other clubs, because he always seems to get the early hook, even when he’s pitching superbly. I keep thinking of that Yankee game and him not wanting to come out of there and Mike hooking him anyway. Mike always seemed to be pulling John out for the slimmest of reasons it seemed to me.
We are going to need all of our starters to perform impeccably now, unless there’s some kind of move looming that reveals itself soon.
Anyway, I’m sure there’s gonna be times here soon when I’m hating Big John once the new season gets rolling. But right now it’s a pretty bitter pill.
Can we now start to ignore
that Lackey sounds like Gomer Pyle
without the singing ability?
Who goofed? I've got to know.
I never thought he would sign elsewhere but I was wrong.....
That is a big loss for you guys no matter how its spun. The good thing for this organization that stands out from the rest of the West, is you guys still have a good pitching rotation. Plus you have owners who will spend money. I am sure they will do something to offset this big loss. I would hate to lose a good with his competitve spirit and his abilities on the mound. Rare combination.
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Lackey is a traitor.
I’m a fan. I don’t care, and shouldn’t have to care, about the market and how the business of baseball works. He went to a rival team and bailed on me. If the Angels didn’t offer him anything reasonable, then that’s different. But they did offer him a decent contract and he bailed anyway. He’s dead to me.
Absolutely correct.
In a free market, Lackey is free to do this and we’re free to hate him for it.
How do you blame Lackey
He wants to go somewhere where not all the pressure is on him, and he has a legitimate chance of winning the world series…Whats wrong with that? The Angels can’t get over the hump, especially without Figgins, I’m sure that didn’t help. Maybe if Artie took ESL classes on the side he could sign some solid free agents. LOL
And now the d-bag speaks...
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/angels-224364-lackey-team.html
Jeff Miller opens up his trap on the matter with some more of his token garbage journalism. If anyone should refrain from using the word “idiot” in response to other people’s opinions it should be this waste of time (followed closely by Bill Plaschke). I wanted to go back and count the number of times he used “idiot” and “stupidy” but I decided I didn’t want to count that high.
How has no other sports columnist put this 12 year old out of a job?
Oh, I remember now, it’s the OC Register
The new Boo King
he’ll be the most hated and booed player when he come to town, replacing Texeira and Pierzinsky in that category. And yes, he not only sounds but even looks like Gomer Pyle- Way to go, Benedict Lackey Fishface!
Xavier Calvera
Whoa, let's not get too excited.
Nobody… I mean NOBODY should ever be more hated in Angel Stadium than Pure-shit-ski. With the possible exception of Doug Eddings.
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
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