It's akward how easy it is for me to hate you, John Lackey
by rjcicc on Dec 14, 2009 7:18 PM PST
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I want you to know that I wasn’t ever a real fan of yours. There was something about you that made you hard to like. Maybe it was the post-ALDS swipe at the team, or your sophomoric ‘tude on the mound, or your willingness to so easily throw teammates under the bus. Whatever combination you choose is up to you, just know that you are dead to me. Farewell, Johnny, it was almost as if we didn’t know ya.
Holidays Wishes,
Rjcicc
PS: All of your peripherals are trending the wrong way and my guess is that you’ll gain more weight, get hurt and be subsequently loathed by people who really care about baseball in Boston. Good luck.
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Well, the real question is: What exactly did the Angel's offer?
only then can he be branded anything
I'm over it.
We will see him what, maybe twice a year at most?
Might not ever see him in October if Boston doesn’t get some more offense.
"Well make more fuckin' money. This is America. You don't make money, then you're a fuckin' douchebag." - Mr French "The Departed"
"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter
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Or if the Angels don't fix their own situation...
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
by Clutch on Dec 14, 2009 7:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
What situation?
Our offense is arguably more powerful now with Matsui and Wood and our pitching leaders the last two or three years haven’t been named John Lackey.
"Well make more fuckin' money. This is America. You don't make money, then you're a fuckin' douchebag." - Mr French "The Departed"
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by Commander_Nate on Dec 14, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
Lackey's been injured part of the last two
And extremely effective when off the DL.
Remember that fancy 3.01 ERA he had in 2007? You know, the one that was the best in all of baseball?
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Yeah I do
It was two years ago.
Times change.
"Well make more fuckin' money. This is America. You don't make money, then you're a fuckin' douchebag." - Mr French "The Departed"
"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter
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by Commander_Nate on Dec 14, 2009 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I do also.
That performance must have done a number his arm, since he’s only averaged 169 innings pitched per year after that season.
That's a lot of weight on both Wood and matsui
…..two risks…but they better come through
posted from a yellow submarine.
by Figgi4life on Dec 14, 2009 10:44 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Better Big Bad John a Red Sox than a Yankee
My hunch was John Lackey would sign with the Texas Rangers. I reserve the right to be wrong. Pass three to the left, three to the right, three across, and have a hold ‘em hand. The winter roster moves are not over. I expect more than a lump of coal in the Halos’ Christmas stocking. Good luck Lackey in 2010—but NOT against the Angels!
Fu*k U John Lackey
You better be ready to hear those boos every pitch every at bat its gonna be louder than Mark Teixeira trust me.
by angelspopbottles on Dec 14, 2009 7:42 PM PST reply actions
You know, I don't think I ever saw John Lackey pitch in person, come to think of it.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Well that does suck!
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
My recent experience has mostly consisted of seeing Saunders shelled. And Garland.
Although I did see Saunders pitch a good game against the Padres this year—the same game in which Torii hit 3 home-runs.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
And a few other good ones from other guys--Weaver, etc.
Just not Lackey, so far as I remember.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Don't think I've ever seen him pitch either
I have seen Santana, Weave, and Garland a few times. Favorite was that Yankee game back in the summer with Woody homering.
John Lackey was 37-21 in games I saw him pitch in person
That includes three shutouts plus Game 7 of the 2002 World Series. Lackey has one more World Series ring than Barry Bonds. My Game 7 headline: “Lackey turns Giants into Peons.”
Only Halos game I've been too John pitched against the Giants this year at At&T
He was amazing till he ran out of gas in the 7th………then the blowpen almost lost it…….but Jepsen and Fuentes held on for the win.
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 15, 2009 7:48 AM PST up reply actions
do you think big john will throw varitek or youklis under the bus and francona
better start getting his, “well you know big john is a competitor” line of bs when he upstages his new skip on the mound. and the boston media will beat the crap out of him when any of this happens. that kermit the frog sounding, mr. ed looking texan will wish he was back in newport coast.
francona
the most overrated manager in baseball (see phillies), well i guess joe torre had his moments before landing with the dodgers (anyone could manage the yankees of the 90s and win)
I saw John Lackey win Game 7 of the 2002 World Series
And it was fuc*ing awesome.
Don’t forget guys, we’ve only won one World Series, and he was the winning pitcher of the 7th Game pitching on no rest. It was a gutty, gritty performance by a rookie.
That’s what I’ll remember. I will always love every Angel on that team, no matter what.
Who all is still left from that team?
I know there used to be a list on the side of HH. But I’m on my phone and it doesn’t show up.
by BruinHalo on Dec 14, 2009 8:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
This is why I don't hate him
But I haven’t been a real fan of his in years. He is a great competitor, but not a great teammate. His crybaby act has been old for years. I wish he were coming back because he was our ace, but I am content to have him leave. Weave is now our ace.
This is the biggest bunch of sour grapes I've ever heard
Lackey was great for the Angels. Now he’s gone because another team valued him more than the Angels did. That’s just the business side of baseball. There’s no need to start with the “I never really liked you” posts. Are we back in high school?
OK, I'm finally over losing Tex. Thanks Kendry.
The problem with this is......
Lackey pretty much just gave Angels fans the finger. I personally hate the Red Sox more than the Yankees i hate them both passionately. It is just a slap in the face for the support that Angel fans have shown him over the years. I hope he spends the rest of his career on the DL.
Bring back Lackey
by Angelsrthebest101 on Dec 14, 2009 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
If you mean...
“another team valued him more” than Sosh did by jerking him in the 5th, you’re right.
It was the seventh
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Or sixth, but definitely not the fifth.
It was the fifth GAME, but not inning.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Call it what you want
At least my post held some semblance of reasoning. Most of us here understand that players tend to follow the money. Maybe that’s something you’ve recently figured out, I don’t know.
The point I was trying to make was that this may not be the end of the world. In my opinion, he’s never been a true “number one” nor has be proved to be that likable. He has a history of inappropriately calling out his teammates and has routinely showed up his manager.
Not to mention nearly all of his important states are in decline and he’s coming off back to back injury shortened seasons.
You are what you type.
well i am in the sort of
if you are on my team, you are okay by me…if you are against me, f u. (kinda like the Barry Bonds effect)
The Red Sucks can have our former lackey
Question: I wonder if he will even be on the opening day roster…or will he break down and start on the DL? Five years for this guy? Really???? He will be lucky to make it four? Good luck and good riddance….I hear his decision had alot to do with his girlfriend who is from Beantown…… hmmm, just like last year’s traitor Texiera. Hope you enjoy being a #3 or 4 starter big fella behind their ace(hole) snarly Beckett, #2 Lester, and #3 Dice K. Can’t wait to boo your sad ace when you come back to the Big A as a member of our ultimate arch enemies.
Say what you want about the man, how he has betrayed an entire fan base by going to the one team that every true Angel fan hates with a PASSION, how his childish behavior in the media this past season had a lot of people wondering if his heart was truly in it, or the fact that he had a tendancy to let his emotions get the best of him on the mound, all of this, and more, is true… but leave his personal life out of the equation unless you know about it personally… for instance, the fact that his wife is from New Jersey, not Massachusetts (and no, close proximity does not count here), not to mention the fact she already stated she wanted to stay in CA coming from people close to John, so it doesn’t seem like that would be an issue…
Tex wasn’t a traitor b/c he had no roots here, no personal connection to the franchise, just 3 months of being a rental player, so to compare Lackey to him is way off…the fact is that “Haus” wanted to go somewhere where he felt he would have a better chance to get a ring…
Will we cheer him for what he did during his time here, yes, but will we jeer him for being a greedy S.O.B. by playing for the Yankees red-headed stepsister? You bet your ass we will…
by Angel Fan Forever on Dec 16, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
Lackey...
just another texas douche bag pitching for an east coast team.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
Everything's bigger in Texas.
Douche bags and unsightly moles. John, you now have A.J. Burnett money, take care of that shit on your face.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
Amen
Heaven has another Angel. RIP, Nick Adenhart. You'll be missed.
http://extra1nnings.blogspot.com/
by HawaiiHaloFan35 on Dec 14, 2009 9:08 PM PST reply actions
I never ever ever
ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever thought I would be calling John Lackey:
(a) an ex-Angel
(b) a member of the motherfucking Boston Red Sox
What does it mean to root for a team again? Am I really rooting for … Angel Great Hideki Matsui?
Who moved my cheese?
2010: The year of Angels World Domination
God, what a stupid little story. I cannot believe that guy is making so much money off of that.
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
Worst. Book. Of. All. Time.
But what a great title. Who doesn’t like cheese?
2010: The year of Angels World Domination
by LazorkoRules on Dec 14, 2009 11:20 PM PST up reply actions
Required reading where I used to work. Seriously.
I am fan various years ago.
by Fred Fredrix on Dec 15, 2009 8:07 AM PST up reply actions
I have read better writing, and writing with more life meaning, here at HH. Seriously.
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
I was fine with him leaving the Angels
but sure as hell didn’t want him to be a Red Suck.
Oh well, it will be much easier to hate you now, John. Maybe you’ll become a good teammate now with all that new money. Good riddance.
just hate him as a sox player
but remember him as an Angel….
he wants to make money just as much as any of us….. his family’s wellbeing will always outrank interests of the fans
I won't hate Lackey as much as a lot of you.
He was a great pitcher for the Angels for many years and a lot of our success came directly from his right arm.
Good luck John. I’ll be rooting for you when Boston plays New York, Texas, or Seattle and booing you the rest of the time.
Thanks,
Jay Cal
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
I dont hate him at all.........
Good luck John……just not against us! :-)
Thanks for the outstanding service to the Halos……
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 15, 2009 7:50 AM PST reply actions
Hey rjcicc...
I couldn’t have said it better. Not that I don’t appreciate what he did, but, the guy was (is) an a-hole… the Anti-Figgins.
Meh. I dont think its fair for us to despise Lackey. He played by all the rules. It’s not like he went on a furious tirade demanding to be traded. It’s not like he pulled a Brett Favre, retire, unretire, sign with the Mariners.
The guy simply did what 95% of athletes do in this day and age. Lets face it, loyalty is dead in sports today. All players care about is a) Money and a very distant b) Winning. As much as I hate the sox, Lackey gets a chance to do both in Boston. If his agent was worth a damn, you can be sure he gave the Angels a chance to match.
Lackey is getting an ungodly amount of money considering his age, and declining stats. I don’t blame the Angels for not matching, I also don’t blame Lackey for jumping at a contract that would give him far more money he is worth.
And although the Angels have shown to be willing to spend money in the past, we are definately nowhere close to the Yankees, Bosox, and Mets payroll wise. And sure its frustrating, but I like the fact that my Angels arent just a product of a blank check. One of my favorite aspects of the Angels, is that we build a team full of scrappy players who play mostly on heart.
This brings me to where I feel the hate towards Lackey comes from. Unlike Figgy, Lackey never gave the impression he was playing with very much heart. As the post says, he was always throwing hissyfits on the mound and throwing teamates under the bus. As Angel fans, we were reluctant to give Lackey the backlash he deserved. On paper, Lackey may have been our number 1, but in our hearts that position was always in the hands of Weaver or Saundo.
In short, the Angels and Lackey relationship ended messy, but what long term relationship doesn’t? Lackey felt taken for granted. The Angels grew annoyed were starting to get annoyed with his attitude. It was a relationship we had to break. Sure there is going to be some angst and regret at first, and we are gonna want to call Lackey at 2a.m. while inebriated wanting him to come back. But Angel fans, we must remain strong, and be the bigger men. Remember the good times as they were, all the while, keeping in mind the bad times. Appreciate Lackey for his effort, and don’t be afraid to say hello when you see him randomly at the grocery store. So I am asking you guys, lets show some class, be the bigger men and show Lackey appreciation for what he did, and just know we are better of being single right now…who knows if we are patient we might just end up with a Webb, Greinke or Lincecum, that is if we dont go for a quick rebound girl… I mean pitcher in Derrick Lowe.
In Kobe we trust!
I hear you Rob
Borrowing form your analogy, my post is akin to that of the supportive friend reminding of you of all the annoying things your ex used to do. Like snooping through your text messages and leaving 2/3’s of her wardrobe in your closet. She also wasn’t that attractive and liked dumb music and movies.
Damn straight we are better off.
You are what you type.
Lackey Fish Face
I won’t miss his mouth open all the time like a fish- And won’t ever forgive him going to the Red Suck. I would have been ok with anyother team.
Xavier Calvera
F Lackey
Missing Garret "Groundout" Anderson
by dannyras on Dec 15, 2009 11:09 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I Must Say...
That is a really ugly fish and it does kind of look a bit like Lackey.
by The Wide Angle Lens on Dec 16, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
they better destroy his jersey at The Goat Hill Tavern
he doesn’t deserve to be idolized there anymore. Not that he cares, he’s got a wife and 80 something million now, HAVE FUN FREEZING YOUR ASS OFF IN BOSTON JOHN, you’ve earned it!
#34, never forget.
He'll get silence from me
As I said in another thread.
"Well make more fuckin' money. This is America. You don't make money, then you're a fuckin' douchebag." - Mr French "The Departed"
"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter
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by Commander_Nate on Dec 16, 2009 10:34 AM PST reply actions
Lackey...
What if the Angels organization actually knew more about Lackey’s elbow than everybody else in the baseball world and they sent Boston a duck.?? Arte & Tony aren’t stupid by any means. Other than GMJ, what has the Moreno era come up short on?
Look at the Tex vs. Morales deal… That ended up about $150M to the good for the Angels… Abreu was genius and Matsui will be the same. Kazmir will gobble up 200+ innings and shields will be back. Wood will settle in nicely and hit 20+ bombs. We are strong and will be tough in 2010
by The Wide Angle Lens on Dec 16, 2009 10:49 PM PST reply actions
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