Mr. Lackey and The Gipper
"Hap, what is your opinion?" I was asked all day yesterday. I decided to wait before I said what I wanted to say, so here it is John. Man, you hurt The Gipper Dude! For many years, we Angel fans were no more than a sick child that was looking for a cure. Many Players, "Doctors," have come and gone, but no cure was found until you helped nurse us to a cure in 2002.
You may say that my comments reek of emotion, but isn’t that the foundation of a Fan? For without emotion, you can not be a fanatic of anything. For many years, we Angel fans have cried for our team, yelled for our team and lived and died by that days box score. That’s being an Angel Fanatic. I thought you understood that, but apparently, what you understand is MONEY!
There are few players that GET IT, you apparently are not one of them. Tim Salmon got it, he played for us, and his childhood dream. Tim told me personally one day at an affair, he said, at the twilight of his career,…."I could play another year, but I would hurt the team, and playing for anybody else….well, that’s out of the question, I’M AN ANGEL!!"
John you fooled us good, man. We thought you were an Angel, but apparently, you are but a person seeking the highest bidder. Boston is a good destination for you. "They" speak of tradition over there at Chowder Land, but when you buy a team each year, you are nothing but a bunch of Investors, people who only care about how many zero’s are in their bank account. We here in Anaheim, are fans, and we deserve players who "Get It."
I knew it was over when you openly questioned Mike when he took you out the game in the playoffs….."It’s mine Mike, it’s mine…" No John, it was OURS, and you have forgotten that!!
So John, go forward with your new found riches, but remember….You hurt The Gipper man, you hurt us bad. This too shall pass, and we will forget about you in time. I will not boo you at the games, because it’s not the right thing. I will however cheer with all my heart against you and all of the new millionaires in "The Business," because you and others have made it a business. DUDE…it’s a child’s game!!
You no longer are that kid, like I was, who played in the empty lot until it was too dark to see the ball. You are no longer that kid who taped his new glove around a ball, then slept on to it to mold the "perfect pocket." You have forgotten how it feels as your family cheers you around 3rd base as you score the winning run. What you are though is a Grownup, who has lost what team and loyalty is. You discovered money and greed!!
I may be criticized by many of my words, but I do not care. I am a 60 year old man who’s inner child is "sick" today, and I just don’t believe in "cures" from players with your type of chemistry.
A life long Angel fan, who you fooled,
Hapyorange
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Once you make the big leagues.......it's no longer a child's game IMO.....
it’s all about business……….at the end of the day……you dont get rewarded with juice boxes and cupcakes…….
You either win and stay on getting paid along the way…………or you lose……and find a new job……
I appreciate your sentiments though…….It’s obvious that you truly love the game, as do I….but I just dont get that emotionally invested anymore…..not with people who I barely know……….the tragedy of Nick Adenhart taught me that.
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 15, 2009 7:54 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Investment
The emotional investment is what makes fans, and not just “investors,” as in a financial issue. It’s good to be invested in a player. The idea that we “know” them makes us kids. And in the the end, don’t we follow “the game” because we remain kids???
"The Smarter I get, the More I Have To Learn"
right thats all well and good.............
but I can control my emotions to the point where I can still appreciate the game…….yet not get too upset when one of my favorite players decides to move on to greener richer pastures…..
Like I said its great that you feel the way you do………..but I just dont feel the same.
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 15, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
well
at least Lackey gave us game 7.
But Mr. Orange, you don’t like to boo? (tsk tsk – coming from a guy who lives near Philly) I agree with you though, it was highly doubtful Lackey was coming back.
Loyalty
Lackey did what most people nowadays are doing. They take the large contract and leave the team that raised them for a contract. Hunter did it when he left the Minnesota Twins and I love the guy. I wish people could stay with the team that they gained fame with, but sadly things don’t go that way anymore. Reading the stories of lifelong franchise players makes me realize that baseball is becoming a game about money and not about the love of the game.
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Dec 15, 2009 11:24 AM PST reply actions
But how much money is enough??
"The Smarter I get, the More I Have To Learn"
by Hapyorange on Dec 15, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
In today's industry
the contract with the most money over the longest period of time will win. Sadly enough this kind of thinking will get rid of this idea of loyalty. Thanks for the great post.
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Dec 15, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Ask that question of Nicholas Cage, or Kevin Bacon.
Two people who made a boatload of money in their heyday, but circumstances erased it all over time.
We do not know what the social, political, economic climates shall create for us down the road. Nor do we know what shall happen to those institutions we entrust with our money. Shy of stuffing $17 million a year into mattresses, Lackey’s earning’s today are subject to the risks of tomorrow.
These are his prime earning years. “Enough” = “everything possible”.
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
I wholeheartedly disagree.
Strirrups, I always love reading what you have to say, but I couldn’t disagree more with this post.
I’d like to offer you $10 to remain an Angel fan or $11 to root for Boston. Will you be switching teams?
If “enough” = “everything possible” wouldn’t you have to take that offer?
The natural response is that it’s only the difference of a dollar. Which would prompt me to say that when were talking about contracts in excess of $70-80M, isn’t the difference of a couple of million nearly irrelevant?
I mentioned this on one of our earlier Figgy posts, but it bears repeating here. At some point, don’t you become wealthy “enough” that the money has to become less of an incentive than some other priorities (teammates, geographic location, longevity, loyalty, etc.).
I shit you not, I’d gladly leave money on the table if it meant I could remain with one franchise, one group of teammates, and one fanbase. Is maximum money important enough to trump ALL of those other things?
What we earn today can’t insulate us from all possible future risks, so why sacrifice so many other things in a failed quest to control all possible future risks?
I just don’t understand this line of thinking. Anyone else feel the same way?
Why is it
that evrytime I read a Hapyorange post I rest my chin between my thumb and my index finger and go, “hmmmm.”
Is it because he is intuitively wise or just wiser than me?
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
It's funny....
I am in Cabo San Lucas for the next 45 days or so enjoying the start of my retirement and the Angel fans here are not surprised at all. I think that as we get older, we tend to accept bad news with a better Face than we are younger. Sometimes I yearn for that unbridled, let it all fly attitute. Its good!!! So, I say to all of my brothers and sistors at Halo Heaven…LET FLY!!!!! tell us all what you think!! Because when it’s all said and done, we are just a bunch of kids that refuse to grow up. We are a bunch of kids that don’t want our best friends in the neighborhood to move away. And lastly…We are all a bunch of KIDS!!!!!
"The Smarter I get, the More I Have To Learn"
Starting your retirement...
…or starting your writing career?
You hit this one out of the park.
by Rev Halofan on Dec 15, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
We have a place here
This where we intend to make our final home. We have been coming to Cabo for about the last 25 years. Weather, people….its got it all. We even have a Costco!! Environmental Law was nice…but cold Coronas are MUCH better.
"The Smarter I get, the More I Have To Learn"
I've gone to Cabo a few times for fishing...
…can’t believe how it’s changed and grown over the years. Good luck in retirement!
Thanks Rev
Coming from you, That means alot!! I will miss my Angels, as I will be traveling and will no longer hold Season tickets for the first time since they played in L.A. I WILL alway be a part of Halo heaven though!! Thanks again!
“Hap”
"The Smarter I get, the More I Have To Learn"
..Can we have a feature article
written by you just sharing stories? Please?
I’ll be a good kid…
by shiftyeyedgoat on Dec 15, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
Ramon Ortiz = John Lackey
hapyorange wrote a nice piece.
just dump him in the bucket of the other three that won a WS game for us, (along with Frankie and Donnelly) – that’s the ultimate bottom line and his only true legacy. I’ll fondly remeber him for that and be forever grateful. Its stops there.
But I now have no more, nor no less respect for him than Ramon Ortiz. To me, there’s really no difference between the two now.
Hey Its not all bad, at least we get some prospects for him
by Balls and Strikes on Dec 15, 2009 7:35 PM PST reply actions
yep, just like Ortiz!
we got Dustin Mosely for Ramon Ortiz.
Lackey’s the same – we get what’ll be another AAA prospect or two.
I don't begrudge a guy going for the highest dollar contract.
But, after the turmoil of 2009, I thought Lackey might – if not give a home team discount – give his home grown team a “last look”…an opportunity to counter-offer.
Instead, it appears he left in a hissy fit, and was determined to sign with whatever team came up with the fastest, highest dollar contract regardless of any other considerations.
I didn’t expect it from Teixeira. He wasn’t a home grown talent. I really did expect this small tip of the cap from Lackey, a hearty “Thanks…but no thanks”. To me, THAT is what makes him appear to be an ungrateful, money-grubbing slug.
not sure if these is a good post
or ramblings of a lunatic.
either way… congratulations?
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
if you new me, I'm actually pretty damn CRAZY !!
AND….You HAVE to be a lunatic to be in the law business!!! And for you my friend, congrats for getting thru the post without closing the page……I CAN RAMBLE. Many a Judge hates me!!!! BUA HA HA!!!
"The Smarter I get, the More I Have To Learn"
You good sir
are awesome.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Dec 16, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
Totally --
Hapyorange had me at ‘Smoke a dube and RELAX my friend!!’
by Big Daddy OB GYN on Dec 16, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
Excellent timing to post that link.
I miss Hudler already.
by Teixeira Who? on Dec 16, 2009 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
Excellent time* to post that link.
Fail
I miss Hudler already.
by Teixeira Who? on Dec 16, 2009 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
To Lackey:
We’ll always have 2002. Every-time a series goes down to a 7th game, I’ll think of you. You were frustrating to watch in the beginning. I never knew what Lackey would show up to the game. I remember Scioscia having to talk to you to control your emotions on the mound. People wanted to demote you, but Mike pushed you in the direction you needed to go.
Some people gave you crap for your attitude, but I always loved it. I always knew this about you…you wanted the ball. You hated being pulled, you hated losing, and you always poured your heart out on the mound. I loved that about you.
Whenever the benches cleared, you were the one who was always pissed off and had to be held back. Jason Kendall & the A’s. That was a classic. Or how about the other one against the A’s where you gave up a double…and then threw a perfect game. Awesome. You were the ace we needed.
You finally carried us over the Red Sux in 09. But it hurts that in 09, you also left us for them. I don’t blame you, honestly I don’t. You earned your chance for a big contract and took it…but I threw up a little bit in my mouth when I saw you with that stupid looking B on your hat. It’s kinda like your wife leaving you for your worst enemy. My love is gone I tell myself, but it still hurts. I want you back. Why John, why? I might understand it on an intellectual level, but in my heart it is just wrong.
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's what gets me.
I do blame him.
If Boston was the only big contract offer anyone had presented, fine, get paid. BUT, he had a pretty fat offer from the Angels during the year, and probably would have had a pretty nice offer this postseason as well. We publicly stated he was an offseason priority, so we all know the interest was there. It’s not as if he wouldn’t have been paid handsomely to remain in Anaheim, just not for top dollar. Was top dollar that valuable to him?!? I guess so.
This post is pathetic
Lackey didn’t fool us. He didn’t turn a child’s game into a business. This has been a multi-billion-dollar entertainment industry since long before Lackey ever played in MLB.
There are many things you can blame Lackey for — showing up his teammates, showing up his manager, making negative comments about the team in the press — but making a calculated business decision to take the best offer is not one of them. The Angels do not make financial concessions to former players for sentimental reasons, and I don’t want them to, because if they did, the team would suck. So why would a former player make those concessions for the Angels?
Grow up and get a life.
Smoke a doob' and RELAX, my friend!
Nah, just kidding. Hapyorange is a lunatic — but that’s why this site loves him. Visit him in Cabo, I’m sure he’ll buy you a couple cervezas…
Feliz Navidad, Hap’! (Easy on the frijoles.)
by Big Daddy OB GYN on Dec 17, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions

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