READ IT: Guide to FanPosting
Before you make a FanPost here do this:
Have something to say. Make a point, back it up, explain it a little more, LINK to something that supports it or disagrees with it and discuss these options.
Realize This First: This team has most of its core components from a 97-Win season still in place. If you want to whine like a little girl after I tear the head off your Barbie, go ahead, but I will just stand there and laugh at you crying in my sick, sadistic way.
LEARN THE TOOLS: This is a major league blog, folks, not some 1999-style message board. We have all sorts of tools that can hyperlink your text to stories, italicize and bold your important points (yeah yeah you're a genius they are all important blah blah blah)
Have an ounce of PRIDE: Make your FanPost something awesome that you would want read at your funeral, because if it is a lame ass post about nothing, I will kill your FanPost and you will die alone and forgotten.
This Fan-Post is authored by an independent fan. Tell us what you think and how you feel.
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Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 16, 2009 12:33 PM PST reply actions
Can you start defining what a "fan" is, Rev?
Your posts are starting to feel a little party-secretary-ish here. Actually, like soft-porn corporate S&M, where a fan is defined as a Pollyanna f**kdoll, with a post-it note safety-pinned to chest reading “Insert Reagins manpole in slobberhole repeatedly…take with pleasure”.
So a fan must be optimistic, proud and defer to our Supremely Competent Front Office on all points? Man, for an aging rocker who helmed Coagula, you’re getting less subversive by the day.
I’ll have no problem watching 150+ Angels games next season, just like last season, and rooting for their success. Just like I have no problem now saying that Tony Reagins seems increasingly out of his depth, and given the middling return the Jays got for Halliday, I’d even call him a lightweight at the poker table. The fact that he overpaid for Hunter (great guy, by the way) at a fast food joint does not make him a blackbelt to me.
Fan = fanatic. Dedicated, emotional, tossed-over like a paper cup in a storm. Let ‘em pout and moan. It’s good stuff. You just seem defensive and girlish yourself when you call them out for doing so.
Those of you fans that are panicked, pissed, cynical, skeptical, or think our executives stink like durian — you’re cool with me. Just keep watching the games, boys and girls. The owners don’t own you.
by Turks Teeth on Dec 16, 2009 12:35 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
what i love is that
meanwhile i am upbraiding people on other posts who are telling people “it is a business grow up” by reminding then that we are fans here.
In other words,,, i have no idea what you are talking about.
by Rev Halofan on Dec 16, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
What I see is you upbraiding people...
…for being insufficiently “proud” or “manly” etc when they show an ounce of pessimism or direct criticism at the front office. Criticism or pessimism is equated with “whining like a girl”, while you actually felt it necessary to post a corrective post to instruct the fans how to be a proper fan and modify the tone in this place. That’s the sort of behavior modification that happens at AngelsWin, y’know.
You’re frontpaging the optimist posts, and jeering the pessimist posts, and are reinforcing that, even though the team has lost Lackey, Figgins, Guerrero (and probably Oliver), it’s still a frontrunning 97-win team, which doesn’t make much sense, given the competition has gotten better and the starting rotation now contains exactly one starter who was healthy all of last season and managed an ERA below 4.
What’s wrong with being a fan, and also pointing out that our competitors outmaneuvered our own front office, and offered thin gruel for gold, while Tony lost out on his nth high-profile trade, even as he had his hands two hands up the horse’s anus again?
Reagins can only buy stuff: Hunter, Fuentes, Abreu, Matsui. I’m willing after what happened in the postseason to say he got fleeced on the Kazmir trade, and has failed at every other major trade juncture. He has a lot to prove, and I think the Angels are in trouble this season if they don’t fortify their SP, RP and defense. And I say that as a long-term fan, who suffered long years, like many of us, when our executives were less wise. Don’t want to see those dry spells again.
by Turks Teeth on Dec 16, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
HEY TURK
the post was really about idiots making fanposts like Forrest Gump an saying SHUCKS I FORGOT THE LINK.
So your complaint is that I have an editorial bias on my own blog. Hmmm. What the fuck else would I have a blog for?
Maybe you should go get your own and find out what it is like to work your ass off on a blog all year and have frigtards show up off the turnip truck to post AH I CAN’T FIND THE LINK, might make you a little testy in your turk teats.
And I am not erasing anyone’s pessimism. My anger at these dipshit “say nothing” fanposts is that they are lowering the legitmiate commentary of good posts. you can help by clicking “Recommend” on FanPosts you like – it helps move them to the top.
your other points:
TRADES: Nobody wants what our farm system has to make big trades, we have Kaz for three more seasons, so pull your head out. Tony did not lose out on any trades, our farm is ranked low by many national analysts because we don’t have stuff to make a trade.
LOSING VETERANS: Figgy, Lackey, Guerrero and Oliver are old. What will happen first: Kaz wins 18 games in a season for the Angels or Lackey and Figgy each spend two months on the disables list in a single season. Vlad and Oliver are almost gimmes for that bet.
If Billy Beane was dumping thirtysomethings as a philosophy he would be worshipped.
Did Reagins fail the Teixeira trade?
We seriously upgraded the 1B slot for a championship run (which failed, though not because of him), vacated a slot for the bashtastic Kendry Morales, then drafted a guy already deemed as our best prospect (Mike Trout) plus Tyler Skaggs … all for Casey Kotchman. How is that teh fail?
As for “Reagins can only buy stuff,” aside from the Teixeira steal, he has spent the last decade developing talent. During that time, the talent he has developed (and retained) has won a buttload of baseball games. Not only is that an important skill, but one that a long-suffering fan who remembers times “when our executives were less wise” should especially understand.
: Hunter, Fuentes, Abreu, Matsui. I’m willing after what happened in the postseason to say he got fleeced on the Kazmir trade, and has failed at every other major trade juncture.
I think Reagins did his best to land Halladay.
The fact that the Angels were willing to offer better players than what The Blue Jays traded for indicates to me Halladay wanted to be a Philly and just did not want to come to Anaheim. You can’t fault Reagins for that, the Angels made numerous legitimate offers.
The 2009 Pregame Picks Winner and Iron Man of Halos Heaven.com
You have absolutely no idea who the Angels offered up...
and neither do I. Based on the package Toronto got back, we can only assume that Reagins didn’t offer up all those players you saw thrown out by media rumormongers.
Which confirmed offer to the Blue Jays did you think was strong?
Or he did, and Halladay rejected coming to Anaheim
Or he rejected signing an extension, Or the Angels wouldnt offer him what he wanted on an extension, etc…
We just dont know. But the fact for a week we were the “frontrunners” to get him sure makes it seem like it was halladay that punked out.
by Balls and Strikes on Dec 17, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
Pure speculation.
The Angels had better chips than what Toronto received and what Seattle ultimately gave up. I have no clue if Reagins played those chips, but if Cliff Lee (and Roy Halliday with a three year extension) were the prizes on the table, he did not win the kewpie. I could care less about not paying AJ money for Lackey…there were better alternatives to replace him, and we lost out.
“Numerous legitimate offers”? Outside of scuttlebutt, what were they?
no they didn't
How many days of major league service did the guys who got traded for Lee and Halladay have?
Starting with that number and not going over it, you cannot match that offer with our weak-ass minor league system.
Ummm
Our farm system couldn’t generate a future middle reliever (Aumont), a speedy guy in Single A (Gillies), and another starter that got shelled in Single A last year(Ramirez) for a full season of Cliff Lee?
Pretty sure we have that. Just a huge swing and a miss so far this offseason and we should be upset until something happens. I won’t lose hope until the spring.
Oh I wasn't saying their worthless...
just that there is no argument whether or not our farm had similar players. Our FO was simply sitting on its hands while this thing was going down.
How do you know they were sitting on their hands?
Where are you getting this information?
Isn’t more likely the Phillies/Blue Jays liked those players more than what the Angels had to offer?
i know because they didn't pull the trigger
We know they were available now obviously so its not a big stretch.
Our FO has the pieces and wouldn’t part with them. Epic fail.
by Wytelitning on Dec 16, 2009 8:15 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Halladay
the FO was pretty smart not to part with the pieces you refer to if they weren’t going to get an extension from Halladay (which from the sounds of it, they weren’t)
by HaloFanInDC on Dec 16, 2009 11:43 PM PST up reply actions
Please help so many around here to remember that point the OTHER 51 weeks of the year,
when all we get are post after post extolling the virtues of players in the minors wasting away while one of our MLB guys goes 0-4.
All those sure things at AAA.
…if only Reagins and Sosh would give them a shot…
…if only Reagins would package two of them for Cy Young…
…NOOOOO! Don’t let Reagins trade away my mancrush!!!!!
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
here here
I think another key (although it should go without saying) is for people to make sure there is not another post (or 3) discussing the exact same thing. Making your own post because you feel a single response comment won’t get noticed should not be OK.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 16, 2009 1:26 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
This should be #1 on Rev's list.
People need to stop being ego-centric, starting a new post if there is already one going. Remember, no one really cares what you think, so see if you can put your comment in an existing dialogue rather than creating a new post on the same exact topic.
Fuck that,
I got drunk at a tractor pull last night.
since 1961
by Chompo on Dec 16, 2009 1:32 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I enjot getting drunk and pissing off the newbies
And I refuse to stop!
Ok but seriously, yeah, stop sucking at posting because we will all hate you.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
by PhiSlamma on Dec 16, 2009 2:26 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I exempt myself from the last bit of your guide
Since for some reason the reply function and many others on here choose not to work while I’m at work. Although on random days like today they do work.
I do not know why this is, but I’m guessing it has to do with bandwidth issues at the office, which I can’t fix.
SO, if the placement of my posts offends you at some point, just see the bottom part of my sig and know that I am frustrated and laughing a little on the inside at the same time.
"Well make more fuckin' money. This is America. You don't make money, then you're a fuckin' douchebag." - Mr French "The Departed"
"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter
Part-Time Nemesis of the HH Reply Function
If you cannot change your browser, try this:
The next time that the site fails to react when you try to click on the word “reply”, click on the word “actions” right next to it. 10 times out of 10 it will open up and let you rec or flag the post to which you wish to reply. But, instead (!), now the “reply” should work. Go ahead and click reply and get on with your post.
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
I 'm pretty sure I've tried that too to no avail
But we’ll see the next time my work comp starts screwing around.
"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter / Part-Time Nemesis of the HH Reply Function
by Commander_Nate on Dec 16, 2009 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
Can you front-page this, Rev?
I’m thinking some of the newer posters might be rushing too much to put up their wicked ahhwesome ideas and skipping past something like this that’s a bit tucked away on a sidebar, even if it says “read it.”
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
I have another one . . .
know who you are talking about when you post about a player.
ie.
Halladay is a pitcher, formerly of Toronto, now with Philadelphia.
Holliday is a LF, formerly of St. Louis/Oakland/Colorado, now a FA.
He was available? We should have made a play for him!
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
And a holiday is a word for "vacation" in Europe.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Dec 17, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
A holiday is a word for 'vacation' in the UK
…in the rest of Europe it’s all written in ‘foreign’
I see red people
You're preaching to the choir, Rev.
Sorry, couldn’t resist that one…
But seriously, this site is so much better than most others in many ways. I mean, just look at the Lakers’ or Raiders’ fan sites. It really is annoying with all the people swearing at each other, the reckless grammatical nonsense, etc.
Really: you guys are doing a fabuluous job. You can’t blame people for freaking out about monday’s news and purging their angst for awhile. I think many of us saw Doc H as the key to a championship team and when that went by the board, we collectively lost it for a second/minute/hour/season…forgive us…and forgive me as a “newbe” for my sins…
you're right but its been going downhill in fan post part...
which is NOT due to Rev, but a series of dumb fanposts.
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 16, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
This is not a democracy
so why simulate the process?
by Rev Halofan on Dec 16, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
the problem is not being controversial
the problem is they are dull, pointless, terribly composed, half-thought nothing posts. I plead for well-written controversy.
by Rev Halofan on Dec 16, 2009 6:09 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Well, here it is--
a controversy. I would gladly put such powers in your hands; however, such power is daunting: and corruptive. Censorship is problematic in all its forms. (especially if you censor MY comments :) )
As the saw goes: Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Dude... it is a baseball blog
One man with all the power combined of all the baseball blogs in the world will not get laid with it.
by Rev Halofan on Dec 16, 2009 6:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Censorship and/or controversial comments have nothing to do with this.
Nobody is saying you can’t hold an unpopular opinion. The issue is the waste-of-space, make-us-all-dumber fan posts that have no valuable info, or could have just as easily been posted as responses to other threads. What makes this blog so great is that it isn’t (or wasn’t) filled with grammatically atrocious ramblings from dummies that want to see their posts on the front page, sorta like the clown at the ball game on the cell phone waving to the camera and telling his friend to turn on the game to see him.
We have a cool little area of the internet carved out over here, and I think we’d all like to see it stay that way.
Apologies in advance.
O well....I thought this was SUPPOSED to be about "controversy"
(See "Rev Halofan / 6;09)
Jeez…I gotta take more PRIDE in my responses…
No, but I have Ken, circa 1962-3, and he's still got that original fuzzy head of hair.
I’ve got Midge, too. She’s a red-head.
My Barbie was a Christmas present in 1961, when I was 11 and almost too old to play with dolls, except she wasn’t like any doll I’d ever seen before. My dollies were baby dolls, but not Betsy Wetsy or Tiny Tears because they cost too much, so it was a shock when Mom and Dad popped for Barbies for me and my sister. Let me tell you, the subterfuge and intrigue involved in getting your hands on a Wii or a Cabbage Patch doll was nothing compared to what went on with Barbie, Christmas 1961, and my unassuming mid-western mother, raised on a farm, outsmarted the mobs, but that’s a story for another day, as is the one about the fake Barbies she bought for half price from the Sears catalog that same Christmas; she didn’t know the difference but we did. I told my younger sister not to mention it but she immediately showed it to Mom and said, “It’s not a Barbie! It doesn’t say Barbie on her bottom!” (or Mattel. Can’t remember which). The fakes were ugly little dolls and I was too young to know but I’ll just bet Mattel threatened Sears with a massive lawsuit.
My Kansas City cousins had The Original Barbies, the first moment they were test-marketed. The dresses had hand-sewn linings and some of them were silk. Amazing.
The dresses I bought for mine were amazing even though they were not silk. My mother said she wasn’t paying for Ken when he was introduced, so I paid $3 for him, an enormous sum of money. Then they gave me a Midge doll for Christmas that year.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
REV KIRK: Scotty, any reason it is getting so girly in here?
WIHALO SCOTTY: Cap’n, the site is losin’ testosterone, rapidly…
CUPIE SPOCK: Captain, your mention of Barbie started a chain reaction. You assumed that it would cause an amplification of the machismo on the site…
REV KIRK: I wanted my site to be a place where men could be men …what happened?
WIHALO SCOTTY: The inherent nostalgia factor of Barbie outweighed the macho captain, we are being inundated with soft fuzzy girly childhood memories here…
REV KIRK: Is it too late to turn on the Laker game?
WIHALO SCOTTY: They played in Milwaukee, the game is over.
MISSUS HF UHURA: Kobe hit a buzzer-beater in OT again!
REV KIRK: Attention all-personnel, Kobe hit a buzzer beater, get to your stations at once and watch the Sportscenter highlights.
CUPIE SPOCK: That should tide the site over for now, but you might consider never mentioning-
REV KIRK: Never again Spock. Sulu, chart a course for planet Vegas, we’re all gonna go get laid on the federation’s dime.
SCOTTNAK SULU: Aye aye, Captain and thanks for that cool photoset of mah boy Matsui. Warp factor 10, Rev.
REV KIRK: Just get us out of this pink zone alive.
by Rev Halofan on Dec 16, 2009 10:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
REDSHIRT FLOYD: gets killed by a drive-by post from OTM.
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
Since we're going with a Trek theme on this tangent:
Drone Steinbrenner:: We are the New York Yankees. You will be assimilated. Your teams competitive and developmental distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile.
"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter / Part-Time Nemesis of the HH Reply Function
by Commander_Nate on Dec 17, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
Well, originality is over-rated...and virtually impossible.
I mean, how many times has Matsui’s head been put on Godzilla…but it’s still funny…
Though perhaps you mean it’s been done on this site before, and that IS a bit redundant…
HA! I'm going to have to show this to people
I thought I was one of the few who was into sports and sci-fi.
I even see the sun frequently…
"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter / Part-Time Nemesis of the HH Reply Function
by Commander_Nate on Dec 17, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
Nate, click on the COMICS link on the home page
And read all of them. They’re awesome. Sometimes after a loss, they were the only bright point.
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
Me: You remind me of a man.
You: What man?
Me: The man with the power.
You: What power?
Me: The power of “Hoodu”.
You: “Hoodu”?
Me: You do.
You: Do what?
Me: You remind me of a man….
(I love old movies)
I read "Hoodu" and think of The Skeleton Key
"Precious in the sight of the Lord, is the death of His Saints." - Psalm 116:15 Rest In Peace, Nick.
In which I 'splain
WiHaloFan referenced the film Bachelor And The Bobby-Soxer above. My comment was another reference from the same scene.
But I must say, your explanation is a lot more fun.
He meant Muppets. Bowie quoted a version of that in "Labyrinth", which was populated by Henson's creations.
Bowie is the goblin king, Jareth.
Jareth: You remind me of the babe.
Goblin: What babe?
Jareth: The babe with the power.
Goblin: What power?
Jareth: The power of voodoo.
Goblin: Who do?
Jareth: You do.
Goblin: Do what?
Jareth: Remind me of the babe.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
Not quite everything. :-)
I finally did figure out where babies come from, and what was causing that trouble.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
Rev but when
many of your core guys are leaving (Chone, Lackie ("Annie’’), most likely Vladdy, and with the division rivals upgrading (M’s, Rangers not letting loose everyone in sight even with their money problems), can this team still compete at the same level? The Angels don’t have a “face” to the team (Hunter?) that drove people to the Big A (or as one announcer called it a while back the Big Ed)?
Granted, I have high hopes for the Angels, I still think they can win the West, but I don’t think they can win 90 games with this 40 man roster in place.
I'd disagree on the 90 games
97 wins last year, 100 the year before, 94 in 07. There is still a lot of questions, but I think it is very likely they will win 90 games.
Lackey was 11-8 with a 3.83 era. He wasnt really all that significant in the angels winning 97 games- he only played in 27 of them, and his first he only made it what, 2 pitches in?
Figgins is a good player, and he had a career year last year. But if Wood contributes, he brings something completely different to the table. Something that isnt a walk and a steal and a man left on base.
Vlad is more than offset by Matsui. Sadly Vlad was too injured to be Vlad most of the season. He spent too much of his time GIDP and limping down to first.
Sure, we may end up choking it this year and missing the playoffs. But we might just as easily win 100 games. If Wood breaks out and our top 4 pitchers step up and deliver like they can, if Matsui goes all Godzilla on some baseballs, this team could be unstoppable.
We’ve all seen in flashes what our top 4 starters can do, they have all looked like aces in the past. We all know what Matsui can do to a baseball, and we have reason to believe wood with 500 ab is going to hit .275 with 25 HR.
by Balls and Strikes on Dec 17, 2009 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
Well DE, put it this way
if they do win more than 90, nobody will ever have reason to cry about roster turnover again…
by Rev Halofan on Dec 17, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions

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