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Will Matthews stay or go!!

 

Will Matthews stay or go!!

I found the article on foxsports.  For the few of you that love this guy, I am sorry but he is a complete waste of locker space.  Why they agreed to pay this guy 23 million over the last two years of his contract is unreal.  What makes me laugh even more is he could make all of that money just sitting his rear on the bench and instead wants to bitch about not playing.  If he wants to play center so bad why doesn't he tell the Cubs he will re-structure his contract for a one year deal.  If he believes he is so great he could be a free agent at the end of next season and get a bigger contract.   We all know the reality of that happening though!

Sources: Angels working to trade Matthews — 12:16 p.m.

The Angels are working hard to trade Gary Matthews Jr. to clear money for other pursuits, according to major-league sources.

For his part, Matthews has not changed his position.

He would welcome the move.

"They know where we stand," Matthews' agent, Scott Leventhal, told FOXSports.com. "Gary wants to play every day, and he wants to play center field."

Matthews, 35, signed a five-year, $50 million free-agent contract with the Angels before the 2007 season, then lost his job when the team signed Torii Hunter to an even bigger deal the following year.

Rival clubs have been reluctant to take on the remaining $23 million over the final two years of Matthews' contract.

"He's still got an amazing amount of talent," Leventhal said. "The Angels have been notified (of Matthews' wishes) on a number of occasions. It's just a matter of whether something can be done."

Matthews appeared in only 103 games last season, batting .250 with a .336 on-base percentage and .361 slugging percentage.



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trade him to the Pirates?

Braves? Nationals? Fuck someone has to like GMJ in CF.

They want power. We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Dec 4, 2009 10:42 AM PST reply actions  

Kansas City?

Could the Angels make a Greinke/Matthews swap? What if the Halos take on ALL the Salary?

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces

by Jay Cal on Dec 4, 2009 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe not Greinke

But how about Gil Meche?

1 line siggy line because I was asked nicely. Go Angels! helpfindscottajob@gmail.com

by Slasher52 on Dec 4, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Plus a few prospects and cash...

forgot to add that. Didn’t want to seem completely insane.

1 line siggy line because I was asked nicely. Go Angels! helpfindscottajob@gmail.com

by Slasher52 on Dec 4, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Those teams are trying to get out of the basement

I don’t think even they are that dumb. Yeah he’d be a defensive upgrade and an ok offensive player for them but not at this price. Besides, what do they have left to give up? We aren’t going to get Greinke for GMJ, and I don’t want A and AA level prospects for $23 million.

If anything I could see him getting traded for a troubled SP on a struggling team. Somebody like Aaron Harang or possibly Bronson Arroyo on the Reds.

"Well make more fuckin' money. This is America. You don't make money, then you're a fuckin' douchebag." - Mr French "The Departed"

"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter

by Commander_Nate on Dec 4, 2009 11:04 AM PST reply actions  

What about St Louis

I’m sure they will trade us Pujols for Matthews, but we’ll probably need to include Loux too and absorb all three contracts……and the state debt in California, and the Federal deficit, and reverse global warming (or global cooling depending on your politics), and repair Tiger’s Escalade, and fix the wind current problems in the new Yankee Stadium, and finally implement health care reform that costs nothing and provides coverage for 100% of all people on the planet.

Yes, I think that about covers it. Why hasn’t Ninja already done this?

by mustard_man on Dec 4, 2009 11:08 AM PST reply actions  

I agree!!

Pack his bags for him and leave them on State College Blvd for him to pick up!! Put a box of tissues on top of the bags for him too!!

by Anaslime on Dec 4, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Or...

a condiment to be named later.

Peanuts...Get your Overpriced Peanuts!

by Angel Hawker on Dec 5, 2009 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Fun Stuff Facts

Gary Matthews will make $11 million in 2010 and $12 million in 2011.
source

Charle Sheen is paid $825,000 per episode of “Two and a Half Men”.
A typical TV season is for 24 episodes, thus Sheen makes $19.8 million per TV season.
source

Victor Willis (The Cop) was the original lead singer of the Village People. He left the group in 1979.
But he continues to make $1 million a year in royalties.
source

by Fan Since 1981 on Dec 4, 2009 11:27 AM PST reply actions  

OK, I'll trade Matthews for Victor Willis

It isn't that I hate Boston, just that I hate Bostonians.

by SalmonStream on Dec 4, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Mathews

better not go!!!!!!

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Dec 4, 2009 11:48 AM PST reply actions  

Your joking what?

RIP Nick Adenhart.

"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5

by Clutch on Dec 5, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

He meant to say

“Surely, you must be joking.”

by rspencer on Dec 6, 2009 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless we get a viable free agent outfielder

Who is going to play RF? Abreu is better for the Angels playing DH. Now if we re-sign Figgins or sign Bay, then we could move Matthews. But if not, why not just throw Matthews out there and see what he can do playing regularly again.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces

by Jay Cal on Dec 4, 2009 12:45 PM PST reply actions  

it's simple

Abreu managed to play RF fine alright last year.. Matthews hasn’t played regularly for three years. When he has had the chance to play he did not play to the expectations his yearly salary commanded. They could get the same production if not better from an outfielder coming up through the minors that would cost 10 million dollars a year cheaper. So I think he has been thrown out there enough to prove what he could do and the only thing he does is fail. Who would you rather have Figgins or Matthews, Because Figgins is about to sign for the same amount of money?

My point is get rid of this scab and if that means paying him money to leave I say do it. His whinning is only going to get worse and will be a negative impact on the rest of the team. Like I said before, if he believes that much in himself he could work out a new deal that doesn’t tie another team down.

by Anaslime on Dec 4, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

You know

I’m not sure where you are getting your info from, but I never once heard him whine. I know he asked to be a full-time player at the beginning of the year and once when the season ended.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces

by Jay Cal on Dec 5, 2009 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Matthews hit .358 with RISP last year

I bash him as much as anyone but that’s pretty darn good. And he had a better Sept than Rivera who only hit a buck ninety eight and was stuck on 76 rbi’s for what seemed like forever.

I am fan various years ago.

by Fred Fredrix on Dec 4, 2009 1:45 PM PST reply actions  

Right

He may be a terribly expensive bench player, but he can be effective in this role, and the team is going to have to pay him in any event. I of course hope that Reagins can trade him for someone more useful (even if we do have to pick up most of his salary), but I can’t see the team just dumping him.

by rspencer on Dec 6, 2009 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Cant we find someone who will pay 5 or 6 million a year for him?

If we pick up half his contract and get a few solid prospects for him (shoot a bag of marshmallows and some firewood would be cool with me) it would at least free up 6 mil a year to throw onto someone like lackey’s potential contract. SOMEONE has to be willing to take this loser!

by Balls and Strikes on Dec 4, 2009 3:18 PM PST reply actions  

Last year GA

was overpaid at $2.5mm. No one is going to pay more than $1 or $2mm for a year of GMJ. The Angels would have to flush about $20mm in order to accommodate a trade, and frankly, he was worth more than that to the Angels last year, and will continue to be for the next 2 years – get used to him. He’s a FAR better defensive option in the OF than Reggie Willits.

He’s a good choice to backup the other OFs, being able to play all 3 positions, and he’s been a pretty good PH w/RISP.

I don’t see GMJ going anywhere. I don’t like that – but a contract is a contract.

by R.Munkee on Dec 12, 2009 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Hold on to your hat

I agree with you completely.

GMJ may not be worth his deal, but he has more value to the Angels as an all-purpose backup than he would to most teams in a trade, without the Angels basically paying off the deal first. HE might not like his lot in life, but it is a side-effect of slgning a fat contract which has paid him more in a single year than 99% of Americans make in a lifetime. His money is guaranteed, but his freedom is constrained by the deal.

And, as you said, if Hunter hits the DL after ricocheting off too many fences, I’d rather have GMJ in CF than Willits.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Dec 12, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm sure there are MANY

things about our team, that we agree on, George. Probably more than those we don’t agree on.
( By the way, I don’t wear a hat – unless I’m at the ballgame – but I appreciate the sentiment.)

by R.Munkee on Dec 12, 2009 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Fly away, Albatross, fly away.

A bag of baseballs would be ample compensation.

by PieceOfAase on Dec 4, 2009 3:26 PM PST reply actions  

Since we're about to lose Figgy......why not try GMJ out at 3rd?

WARNING, WARNING!!!!!!!…before you all start jumping on me, this comment is meant to be taken as sarcasm

The bat of Howie will rise again!

We Fly Flags

R.I.P. #34

by The Furious Bat of Howie47 on Dec 4, 2009 3:40 PM PST reply actions  

WHAT THE HE....

Oh, just read the warning
Nevermind

Who goofed? I've got to know.

by hittheg on Dec 5, 2009 12:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Is re-working his contract an option?

I’m not sure why it hasn’t come up already. It is a win-win for everybody because Tony will have more money to spend now and GMJ gets his unconditional release plus the opportunity to sign elsewhere to play everyday.

The Angels can’t even use their bench-depth card because Petitt can do what GMJ for a better price. Andruw Jones agreed to defer money from his contract and that gave the Doyers more financial flexibility with their 09 payroll.

NA 34

by blochead on Dec 4, 2009 3:47 PM PST reply actions  

Only if Matthews is willing to accept what he’s really worth (not much) which he is obviously not willing to do. What a prick. Give me $23 mil over the next couple of years and I’ll scrape the gun off the dugout floor. I don’t even wanna play.

by SteelieD on Dec 4, 2009 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

well he would still get his 23 mil

except it would be broken down into smaller amounts over a longer period of time.

NA 34

by blochead on Dec 4, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions  

The White Sox would have been perfect for him

until Kenny Williams had to go piss off every GM in baseball other than J.P. Ricciardi (at the time) by taking on the Rios contract.

The one other fit I can think of is the Reds.

"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana

by Chzburger Jones on Dec 4, 2009 9:47 PM PST reply actions  

GMJ doesn't suck

but his contract is outrageous.
He’s movable and usable.
How can we move him or use him?

     I don’t think he’s usable. Cheaper, possibly better minor leaguers are blocked by him. Keeping him on our bench is counter-productive. His ceiling is low(known). What might we be missing by keeping him here?

     Moveable? My fellow HH’ers know more than I.

     Eating the least amount of that 23 mil is the biggest concern.

     This may be a worthless post but I hope it’s clarifiing. GMJ’s contract isn’t up S___ Creek it’s in it.

Who goofed? I've got to know.

by hittheg on Dec 5, 2009 12:40 AM PST reply actions  

Bravo

All this anger towards Matthews just baffles me. He didn’t extort the money from the Angels. He received it in open negotiation. If he hasn’t justified the contract, then that may not mean that he is a terrible player, but that Stoneman negotiated a terrible deal.

That said, I think we can see that this contract taught the Angels (Arte, in particular) a lesson in contract duration. The team essentially sees two types of players: Franchise players, and everybody else.

To franchise players (like Hunter and Teixeira) the team is willing to go beyond 3 guaranteed years, but to everybody else, the line seems to be drawn at 3 years, or at 4 years on a smaller base salary. Apparently, the Ms are offering Figgins 4 guaranteed years with a vesting option for a 5th, at a higher per-season than the Angels have offered.

My guess is that Figgins is the Chone Figgins we think of when he suits up in 2010 and 2011, but will be increasingly less so in 2012 and 2013. That means two intriguing seasons in Seattle for the next two years, but a lessening effect when both Figgins is two seasons older—but still commanding a premium salary (and Ichiro’s deal ends in 2012). If Figgins is expected to provide Ichiro’s offense at the top of the order in 2013 and 2014 (if the deal vests), then I think Seattle will be disappointed.

Meanwhile, I don’t think Brandon Wood needs anything but the chance to see his name in the lineup everyday. I will continue to point to Troy Glaus when he first had his chance He didn’t impress initially, but was given the starting job and blew the lid off the joint. He had the advantage of playing in a time which was marked as both the “live ball era” and an absence of testing for PEDs, so I don’t expect Wood to hit 47 HR in 2011, but I do expect him to show himself to be the player the Angels have been expecting—good D which will mature into great D, improving pitch selection (with fewer strikeouts) and a healthy amount of power offense from 3B.

If the Angels don’t re-sign Figgins because of a lack of desire to propose a high-dollar 4 or 5 year deal, it will be because the team learned a valuable less from GMJ.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Dec 5, 2009 7:15 AM PST up reply actions  

No one said that

he extorted money from the Angels. I agree that if Angels were dumb enough too pay him that type of salary why wouldn’t he take it. The point is, Matthews and his agent need to shut their mouths about not getting to play everyday! Quit being a little bitch and be happy with what you got, if you don’t like it agree to cut your contract and LEAVE!! Finally he IS a terrible player when he only hits for a .250 average during the regular season, most minor league outfielders would hit for a better average during their rookie season!!!

by Anaslime on Dec 5, 2009 7:34 AM PST up reply actions  

GMJ

Few players do well with irregular opportunities. This cuts to some of the anxiety surrounding Wood as well, with folks here pointing to his numbers in Anaheim and presuming to extrapolate his future from them.

GMJ was overpaid—I think we all agree on that. But few players would excel with the irregular opportunities he was provided once Hunter arrived, and to request a trade for the opportunity to play everyday is as old as baseball itself.

Frankly, I’d think less of the guy if he just cashed his paychecks and never complained. I like the fact he’s requesting a chance to start elsewhere, and I would assume he’d find a way to rework the deal if a good situation presented itself.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Dec 5, 2009 7:48 AM PST up reply actions  

He didn't play well before Hunter arrived!!

He signed a contract for millions of dollars, in return the Angels expected him to play to the same caliber he did his last year in Texas. He had multiple opportunities over the last three seasons to do so and he hasn’t. To be paid that type of money and not play the way you were expected to play because of ANXIETY is no excuse! He is a professional athlete not a little leaguer..

So, that being the case I am sure he will not rework the deal because we are talking MILLIONS OF DOLLARS!! No team is going to pick up his contract which would mean he would have to lose MILLIONS OF DOLLARS!! No idiot would give up that much money so he could play everyday..

To think less of him because he has had a BAD job performance and then to complain because you are not getting what you want is worse… He is better off shutting his mouth and doing what his employer is requesting of him, which is to sit his ass on the bench and shut his mouth!! Otherwise, get out there and EARN your money.

by Anaslime on Dec 6, 2009 8:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I think he's voiced his opinion like 3 times.

He isn’t Jose Guillen. But we get it, you hate his guts.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces

by Jay Cal on Dec 6, 2009 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

There are so many things wrong with your post that it is breathtaking

Rare is the player who can perform at top-level with irregular playing time. The “numerous opportunities” you mention were spot starts and pinch hitting roles. What he is seeking is the chance to play on a team with a set role and spot in the lineup every night. Rare is the player who doesn’t want that, and as I said before, I’d think less of the guy if he didn’t ask.

Your presumption that he wouldn’t rework his deal is apparently steeped in your dislike of the guy. It is a shame you apparently don’t understand the idea of reworking a contract, as Andruw Jones did with the Dodgers—the remainder of the money is deferred over years, which frees up payroll for the current team and makes the player affordable for another team to sign. We have no indication that Matthews would or wouldn’t agree to such a scheme, or that it has even been proposed—you simply didn’t let that fact stop you from slagging on the guy.

You really need to find a new bete noire, since you’re not enhancing your reputation with the shots you’ve taken here.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Dec 6, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I understand your point regarding GMJ

but while he didn’t extort the money from the Angels, many feel he got it under false pretenses by taking HGH to augment his abilities artificially in his contract year. I think this is the source of the anger towards him.

by rspencer on Dec 6, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

HGH

Again, a source of resentment I don’t get—the shipment of HGH was in 2004, which was two seasons before his final year in Texas (2006).

If one looks at his stats in 2004 and 2005, it wouldn’t appear that HGH made a nickel’s worth of difference in his performance—IF he took it in the first place.

Matthews simply had a contract season in 2006, just as Adrian Beltre did in 2004, and scored a fat contract on the basis of a single season. It was a miscalculation on the part of Stoneman.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Dec 6, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, sure

I’m highly skeptical regarding HGH’s effect on performance in the first place. But surely you understand that the general perception of the matter is quite different, which is why he’s popularly known as HGH on this site.

by rspencer on Dec 6, 2009 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

As a taunt, fine

I think we’ve tossed about more petty invective than that.

I am simply concerned that some out there think the guy was juicing in 2006, when there is zero evidence to support that idea—and as you said, the idea that HGH has any benefit to a player’s performance is highly specious. The guy is our very own Beltre, and just as the Mariners signed him and expected 2004 in every year to come, we signed GMJ and expected 2006 to be repeated in Anaheim.

The Angels screwed up on this. Any one of us, placed in Matthews’ position, would have accepted the contract offer made by Stoneman, and it isn’t a poor reflection of his ability or character that he hasn’t repeated 2006 since.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Dec 6, 2009 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe I'm missing something.

so here is the big plan (from what I’m piecing together)

We release GMJ. Which means we’re on the hook for all of his 23 Million Dollars that he’s owed. And replace him with Chris Pettit, which we’d only have to pay $400,000-500,000 and offers roughly the same production.

Why not just play Matthews?

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces

by Jay Cal on Dec 5, 2009 9:00 AM PST reply actions  

What you're missing;

1. Matthews sucks, which is why they don’t play him.

2. Matthews requested a trade, more than once. If he’s on the bench again next year it could become a distraction. He’s got to go.

by dmhead on Dec 5, 2009 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

it won't be a distraction if he's playing.

And he should be playing unless we sign another free-agent outfielder.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces

by Jay Cal on Dec 5, 2009 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

but if he's playing

he won’t be any good. I don’t care what he hit in September. He is not a good major leaguer and if the Angels plan to defend their division title Matthews will not start for them.

by dmhead on Dec 5, 2009 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

you are going have to give me a little bit more than

He isn’t good, to change my point of view.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces

by Jay Cal on Dec 6, 2009 7:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure, what do you prefer?

Do you like stats? Over his career, he has hit .258/.333/.408, which is pretty nice for a great defensive shortstop. Since joining the Angels, he’s hit .248/.326/.379. Take away his roid year in a band box and you get .248/.325/.392 over his career. And this is the guy you think should be playing a corner outfield position on a contending team? Most advanced fielding metrics (and even the old skool ones) show him being a below average fielder.

As far as what my own two eyes see, too often he makes a bone-headed play in the field (throwing to the wrong base, dropping a fly ball, etc.) that you don’t expect to see out of a veteran who was the son of a big leaguer. He often looks like he’s swinging for the fences when he really should just be trying to get on base. He makes the occasional diving catch, but usually its because he gets such a bad read on the ball initially that it is the only way he could catch it.

On a positive note, he knows how to take a pitch every now and then, has average power, and isn’t an awful baserunner. In my humble opinion, though, his impact on the team is a negative one. Its not just the money. The more game time he gets, the less likely the Angels are to win. Scioscia is notorious for giving his veterans all kinds of rope, so the fact that Matthews hasn’t started for the past year-and-a-half should tell you Mike – and the organization – feel the same.

Bottom line, if they release him (or trade him and pay most of his salary) they’re throwing money away. If they play him, they’re throwing money AND wins away. Might as well cut their losses.

by dmhead on Dec 6, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Is he the best option.

No. No he isn’t. And if the Angels can go out and sign Jason Bay, then I’m all for it. But is he a better option than Evans, Wilits, or Pettit. And when the talk is DFA a guy who is going to make 10 Million plus whether he plays for the Halos or not, doesn’t make this sound any better.

Can we trade him? Sure, but he’s going to have to get some at bats again before he has positive value. If we’re going to eat his contract, might as well play him anyway. Even if it becomes the 4th spot in the outfield.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces

by Jay Cal on Dec 6, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes you're missing the main thing...

We want to find some way to reduce/ eliminate the amount owed to GMJ so we wont have 15 mil (basically one big signing) to spend in the offseason we will have 20-25 mil (one big and one good signing). The return on him is insignificant really- hence the bag of baseballs, some infield dirt comments. The big focus is clearing salary so we can get a guy like lackey/ halladay and a guy like bay.

by Balls and Strikes on Dec 7, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

And if he is playing it will be a repeat performance of the last three years!!

How many opportunities should we give him to prove himself!! We could re-sign Vladdy to play DH and we would be ten times better off. The Angels would be better off just paying off the remainder of his contract and opening the bench to another player.. I would rather see Quinlan out there everyday than Matthews….

by Anaslime on Dec 5, 2009 10:23 AM PST reply actions  

Correct me if I'm wrong...

Last year’s outfield was Rivera, Hunter, and Abreu
Previous year was Anderson, Hunter, and Guerrero
Previous year was Anderson, Matthews, and Guerrero

Well I would say that Guerrero and Anderson were both better hitters than Matthews. But I’m almost positive they won’t be playing this year.

So the Angels really hadn’t played full-time since 07. Yet he was fairly clutch last year. And is everyone forgetting about his steal at home?

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces

by Jay Cal on Dec 6, 2009 7:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Give it a rest!!!!!

Kripes, why don’t you people see this. Why do I have to educate the whole freaking world? GM doesn’t want to leave, he wants to PLAY, AND HE SHOULD BE! No, not in center field. Sorry Gary, you were injured in 2007, giving your all for the team, but management wasn’t sure of your return and got Torii, who has become the face of the franchise. (Also sorry Vlade)…

But, put Bobby at DH, and place Gary in right. Or, better, if we keep Vlade (and we should, ‘cause no one is going to want him and we’ll get him dirt cheap with something to prove) GET RID OF THAT LOAFER JUAN RIVERA! Package Juan and Jepsen (won’t need him with Shields back) with a prospect for Halladay! What do you see in the highlight reel… GM making a diving catch (he can do it just as well as Torii), GM stealing home- YOU WILL NEVER SEE JUAN RIVERA DIVE FOR A BALL IN HIS LIFE- AND DEFINITELY WON’T SEE HIM STEAL HOME! But I’ve seen him DROP balls in the outfield- PLENTY of times.
Gary has got to be one of the most misunderstood players in all of So Cal, and gets a horribly bad rap. PLAY HIM- HE’LL PROVE ME RIGHT.
(Side note: I was wearing Matthews’ jersey to our final home game against the Spankees, and some punk kid (a fellow Angel fan!) started giving me crap for wearing a GM jersey! This I have to take from a fellow Angel fan, who wasn’t even a gleam in his Dad’s libido when I was getting my first divorce!!!) Give me- AND MATTHEWS- a break fans.

by gobeydog on Dec 5, 2009 3:24 PM PST reply actions  

If you were my teacher I'd walk out.

Matthews is NOT the equivalent of Hunter. Torii has made TWO errors since being in Anaheim, GMJ has made 16. I remember a certain “loafer” playing in Anaheim for 15 years, didn’t dive and kinda cruised out in LF, he’s #7 on the top 100 Angels, Garret Anderson. GMJ had ONE good year IN Texas and he cashed it in with a big deal here. He’s been DFA’d something like three times in his career for subpar performance. So before you go about telling us how you are gonna “educate the whole freaking world” do a little research.

Nick would be proud.

by halofan4life on Dec 5, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I tend to agree...

I’d say give left field to Matthews, Torri gots center and parts of Right. Abreu and Rivera can share duties at DH/RF. Willits could break Matthews on occasion. And Matthews could cover off days for Hunter with Rivera and Abreu to the left and right respectively.

The money is already spent. Outside of landing a guy like Jason Bay, I think this is our best vehicle to win. Not throwing good money out the window. Not bringing up a rookie just to DFA Matthews.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces

by Jay Cal on Dec 6, 2009 7:53 AM PST up reply actions  

You need to have your eyes checked.

“YOU WILL NEVER SEE JUAN RIVERA DIVE FOR A BALL IN HIS LIFE- AND DEFINITELY WON’T SEE HIM STEAL HOME! But I’ve seen him DROP balls in the outfield- PLENTY of times”

Look it up, buckwheat. Rivera has only dropped 19 balls in his entire career to date. Out of 1073 chances.

Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.

by Stirrups on Dec 7, 2009 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Right field

and relieving Tori and Rivera would be good- and once in a while DH- Then Abreu can be the regular DH and occasional right fielder. We paid for him, lets use him!- He wasn’t half bad when Tori was injured.

And I think Woodie is gonna surprise us all- Go Angels!

Xavier Calvera

by xavier c on Dec 5, 2009 9:08 PM PST reply actions  

Wasn't half bad!!

Thats what you want playing in the lineup everyday.. Someone who isn’t half bad, which would mean he plays bad only half the time.. Thats great logic!!!

by Anaslime on Dec 6, 2009 8:04 AM PST up reply actions  

and when a batter hits 3/10

He is considered a hero.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces

by Jay Cal on Dec 6, 2009 8:09 AM PST up reply actions  

For you GMJ fans

I can see this all of this is not sinking in. The Angels front office, Manager, Coaches and roughly 75% of the fans thinks he is awful. Sports writers think he is awful, but you guys have it all figured out. You are smarter than an Angels Manager who is been involved in Professional Baseball his whole carrer. He knows what will work in a lineup and won’t. So evidently you are correct in that Matthews should play everyday. That is the other reason they have been trying to dump Matthews and his huge contract, because if it wasn’t for that he would still be an Angel..

I hope he does get a chance to play everyday, they will only be HALF BAD, so their record will be 31 wins and 31 loses at the all-star break! When this happens I will post another blog about how they are only half bad and we can all return and talk about why they should keep playing him because he just has some ANXIETY, about being benched. If I am wrong I will post the same blog and we can talk about how great it was he made the all star team!

by Anaslime on Dec 6, 2009 8:48 AM PST reply actions  

Bitting my tounge.

Roughly 75% huh? Where did you pull that number. Do you have Reagins on speed dial? No. I haven’t heard one player, coach, manager, say one negative thing about Matthews.

Matthews hasn’t played every day, because the Angels had better solutions at the time. Which, until they sign another free agent, they don’t.

Willits isn’t better than Matthews and I haven’t heard of a prospect yet who is a must have in our outfield. You are already paying this guy. Why dump his salary? It is going to cost you two times to dump him. If you need to make a move, then wait until his value has increased or when someone has a need for an outfielder that can be filled by signing a free-agent.

You must be flying under the Radar, because Rev usually bounces guys like you right away.

Remember the Code of Conduct.

3. PESSIMISTIC? Bitch once, then offer a solution. Don’t bitch twice, it’s alright

4. Martyrs and Hostile posters get banned fastest

5. Your opinion is always allowed, but so is everyone’s opinion of your opinion

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces

by Jay Cal on Dec 6, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

hey now

if 1/30th of MLB GM’s think he is any good, then he is gone.

by elricsi on Dec 6, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

So essentially you are contradicting your own statement!

You can bitch about what I am saying, but I cant bitch about GMJ!! I have not used any foul language or been rude or nasty but that is how you are trying to percieve it. Why don’t you go and tell Rev to bounce me then, because I have bitched more than once about your favorite player “GMJ”. You sound like an old pissed off lady who isn’t getting her way!! ha..ha..

by Anaslime on Dec 6, 2009 2:59 PM PST reply actions  

When Matthew is in the starting line up

You’ll sound a lot like an old pissed off lady.

I don’t mind your language.

I don’t mind your opinion, (even if I don’t agree with it)

But I do mind the whole… Matthews gots to go because he sucks.
The solution of bouncing him to pay someone else to do it, doesn’t make sense unless its a superior upgrade.

Nobody on the farm is an upgrade. And short of Jason Bay, who is out there that is worth the move?

Answer those questions. Offer solutions and then move on. Don’t bitch twice, it’s alright.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces

by Jay Cal on Dec 6, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the bans

go through IP Address, although I’m not certain. If you get bounced… you’ll have to change your IP Adress if you want to come back.

But I doubt Rev is going to bounce you anyway. Just pointing out that you’ve become more of a troll on this board then someone who is offering a differing opinion. DMHead doesn’t have the same opinion as I, but he’s attempting to make a point and move on. You seem to be stuck on this entire GMJ sucks blah blah blah.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces

by Jay Cal on Dec 6, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it's nice that GMJ has his own R.Munkee

It might be a sign of genuine stardom to rate one’s own troll.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Dec 6, 2009 6:22 PM PST reply actions  

Another way to look at this...

The $11M in 2010 to GMJ is gone if he plays or not. Some people are saying to sign Jason Bay to play in the OF. While I’m not a GMJ fan, I think if the Angels are going to pay him, they should at least get something for the money instead of shelling out even more money for another player. The difference between Bay and GMJ is about 19HR with better slash stats, not hugely better, but better none-the-less:
GMJ averages 14 HR and .258/.333/.408
Bay averages 33 HR and .280/.376/.579
If the Angels sign Bay for something like $12M/year, what they’re getting for that is the difference between he and GMJ. In a sense, the Angels would be paying $23M for Bay.

I think the Angels should just ride out GMJ’s contract, use him as they did last year and wait until one of the AAA guys develop or until 2012 to sign a big dollar guy.

by WiHaloFan on Dec 7, 2009 11:13 AM PST reply actions  

He should terminate his contract

if hes fucking asking for trade nd wants to leave the club cuz i cant see that happening at all.. would be GREAT Christmas if he decides to terminate his contract or one retard GM decides to eat all of his contract for whoever

by Applets on Dec 7, 2009 5:19 PM PST reply actions  

If that is what you envision as reality

then you shouldn’t be the one tossing around the term “retard”.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Dec 7, 2009 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

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