Juan Rivera Headed to Mets?
by Rev Halofan on Dec 7, 2009 1:22 PM PST
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Wow this is a not-so-crazy rumor: Joel Sherman in the NY POST says that the New York Mets want to trade for Angels outfielder Juan Rivera.
Rivera has two years for $9+ Million left on his contract and Mats GM Omar Minaya loves him, having traded for him once before when he was the GM of the Montreal Expos earlier this decade. If the Angels are serious about acquiring Jason Bay, it would make sense to move Johnny Rivers.
Considering that we need bullpen help I perused the Mets roster.. but damn is that cupboard ever bare over there... check out the Mets roster and suggest a possible trade... the only player of interest I found over there was pitcher Tobi Stoner and that is just because he has the coolest name in baseball. If we packaged Rivera with a minor league prospect do the Mets have anything attractive that we could use? Ugh, doesn't seem so...
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I could see Rivera going to the Mets
but it would probably have to be for prospects…. say, some prospects that the Blue Jays may be interested in?
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
The question isn't what the Mets could give us...
its what the Mets could give Toronto.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
maybe the mets can give us a decent SS prospect.
Reyes!
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 7, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
I was just about to say
this has 3 way trade written all over it. Maybe for Doc, maybe not. Either way, I just can’t imagine they have anything worth giving up Juan for.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 7, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
The Braves need a bat
Package Rivera or Napoli and some doodz for Vazquez.
F The Mets.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
Yes, its true
Doesn’t mean it can’t happen.
Mr. Kaplan…your turn!
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OK, I'll play
Quoting from Cot’s:
3 years/$34.5M (2008-10)
* signed extension with White Sox 3/07
* 08:$11.5M, 09:$11.5M, 10:$11.5M
* limited no-trade clause blocking deals to NL West & AL West clubs
* acquired by Atlanta in trade from White Sox 12/4/08
Let’s be realistic for a moment: The guy felt strongly enough about this to have it baked into the deal he signed with the White Sox in 2007, after having been acquired from the Diamonbacks (Vasquez didn’t want to go that far from home, but at that time he lacked the contractual wherewithal to block it from happening).
He doesn’t want to play any farther away from his family than the AL or NL Central divisions.
"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon
by George Kaplan on Dec 7, 2009 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
Thank you.
Stranger things have happened, that’s all I’m saying.
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You're right
Stranger things happen on this site every day.
It’s just highly unlikely, and Vasquez isn’t being mysterious about it.
"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon
by George Kaplan on Dec 7, 2009 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
If Rivera goes to Mets...
I think this opens the door for Vlad to come back (at a reasonable rate) as the DH. This is also assuming we sign Bay to play LF.
OK, I'm finally over losing Tex. Thanks Kendry.
I dont know
I kind of like the idea of Bay DH’ing every once in a while.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 7, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
Rivera and Wood for David Wright
There, I said it. That’s about the only player I’d give up Wood for. I mean, uh, wait, that didn’t come out right. And I enjoy the Mets.
That, or Johnny Rivers and GMJ for Johan Santana. That’s an extremely fair offer, but if the Mets want to make it even more fair they can throw in Jose Reyes.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
your going to need to add an arm at least.
Give them the other Johan Santana?
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Dec 7, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
Eh, Ervin would be too much for them.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
You mean our own Johann?
Nick would be proud.
by halofan4life on Dec 7, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
Wait...
Omar Minaya still has a job?
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Dec 7, 2009 1:50 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Via Nick Pietruszkiewicz on ESPN
The Tigers are asking for a King’s Ransom for the vaunted Granderson.
Clubs are immediately balking at the Tiger’s requests.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
fine....
saunders, santana, weaver, napoli, aybar, kendrick and rivera…. for granderson and a bag of baseballs.
they can’t have Mathis though. We’re keeping him.
Who?
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
I don't know if he can pitch
But he definitely knows his way around the junk food aisle.
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I don't know about the coolest name...
Dick Pole defiantly gives him a run for his money.
I miss Hudler already.
Brandon Wood's real first name is "Richard"
it’s a close one….
I can see why he goes by Brandon
If he wasn’t a star athlete, he would have been beaten up all the time in school.
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Probably still was...
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Soon as people found out, anyway.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Ricardo Madera
jajajajaja
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
by Dono Romantico on Dec 7, 2009 6:38 PM PST up reply actions
Sterling Hitchcock...
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby
There was a guy on the old Hollywood Stars that Jim Healy used to talk about
Michael Hunt. He remarked how the play-by-play announcer was always careful not to shorten the first name to “Mike.”
Damn
I miss Jim Healy.
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Me too
Especially when stories like what’s going on with Tiger Woods come up. Just imagine what he’d do with that!
She is a lovely lady and my apologies to her.
When Playboy did their first of many “college girls” issues with “the girls of the Pac 10” he went on and on about how he was forced to do “research” on this big story by acquiring a copy of said issue..
That's great.
When I first started to listen to him, I was way too young to understand wtf Healy was talking about. He was just plain great. You can’t replace him, but I wish someone would do the same format.
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For those who feel like reminiscing
http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/healybytes.html
The “Who goofed, I’ve got to know” was Al Michaels. I had no idea. The more you know…
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No shit?
I always thought that was Cosell.
"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon
by George Kaplan on Dec 7, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
That's what the site says
Believe it as much as you trust anything on the internet. I thought it was Cosell too, but I can see in my mind’s eye a young Al Michaels saying that.
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The original is Cosell
It’s from a long tape wherein Cosell explodes when he finds out that the recording studio he has scheduled a session for is not ready for him, and he has a limited time before he has to catch a train to do Monday Night Football. Later, Al Michaels did his impression of the quote. Healy played both.
espencer is right
That is exactly as i recall it – one day Healy played the extended tape, it was Cosell asking who goofed so he could get whoever goofed FIRED. Man, Jim Healy ripped into him something awesome – of course it was years after the fact, but still awesome.
I've heard Al Michaels talk about this at length
Cosell was of course one of Healy’s favorite targets. According to Michaels, Cosell pretended indifference, but he always kept very close tabs on what Healy was saying, and he was obviously quite obsessed by it. Eventually he learned that someone at KABC was sending Cosell tapes of the show every day.
The funny thing is that Cosell actually did have a perfect right to be angry in this case, but instead of trying to fix the situation, his only interest was in finding out who goofed so he could exact revenge. Fortunately for us, this all happened in a recording studio, and someone was rolling tape.
Trade Rivera for some decent prospects
that will free up some of our budget for Halladay, Bay, Lackey, or whoever. I would really like to see Granderson trade also. Bay will cost at least $16M and Granderson is relatively cheaper so i would prefer Granderson over Bay but fine with either one so just BRING SOMEBODY PLZ TONY C’mon… nd get rid of GMJ for any prospect.. 1:1 trade with SINGLE A player would be just fine… if any retard wants that trade
How in the world can you prefer Granderson over Bay?
Besides steals Bay does absolutely every better than Granderson offensively
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
But,...but,...Granderson is the best player EVER!
HOW CAN YOU DENY THIS?? :-D
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Considering..
Contract, Age, and Defense. Also speed is the huge part because he can steal once he is on base although his OBP and hitting against lefty were pretty much below average last season. And this guy can make some plays on defense.. well i always like young players over kinda old players (Bay is 31 so not so old but comparing to Granderson) so.. thats just my opinion..
by Applets on Dec 7, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Aw, geez....
Trade Rivera for some decent prospects
that will free up some of our budget for Halladay, Bay, Lackey, or whoever
Dude, seriously, had you bothered to look at Rivera’s deal before you decided to let your fingers display Tourette’s?
He is scheduled to make $4.25M this year and $5.25M next year.
In the meantime, there are some here lobbying to sign Bay for something approximating Hunter’s $19M per year.
Or others who are seriously pimping the idea of trading for Curtis Granderson, who will make (notice, I didn’t write “earn”) $26M over the next three seasons.
Rivera is a fucking steal. Why would you wish to piss him away for a prospect, just so that you can save his relatively meager salary?
"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon
by George Kaplan on Dec 7, 2009 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
You, I like you
You and I must continue to mount an enthusiastic defense of reason. In this case that means prioritizing a trade of GMJ.
That is how you free up salary for other things. You don’t do it by trading a player like Rivera who is easily worth twice his salary.
"Well make more fuckin' money. This is America. You don't make money, then you're a fuckin' douchebag." - Mr French "The Departed"
"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter
by Commander_Nate on Dec 7, 2009 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
There is no trade for GMJ. He has no value due to his contract.
You’ll hear rumors about Rivera because unlike GMJ, he provides value that exceeds his contract. This is what other teams want, not our problems.
Another team has to consent to a trade. Otherwise GMJ would have been traded two years ago.
No reason to give up Rivera when
he is being paid below market value for above average production. Sign Bay, put him in LF, put Rivera in RF and let Abreu DH. They can rotate as needed and GMJ can spell them when needed. This team needs more mashers, not less, and the $4.5 million Rivera makes isn’t precluding them from signing Bay. It doesn’t have to be an either/or.
This team needs offense…keep Rivera and ADD a bat.
RIP Nick...
Jim Scully
Jim Scully Home
by jimmuscomp on Dec 7, 2009 4:30 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Exactly my thoughts
Napoli would be the odd man out in this situation.
I can see him involved in a trade shortly after signing Bay.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
ummm
i wasn’t aware any of those guys were the starting catcher. Napoli is still our catcher, and hopefully, Mathis is still our backup. the only way he’s the odd man out is in the DH slot, which is rarely saw anyway
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
Mathis proved this post-season
that he can hit when it counts. And his defense is greater than Napolis. Napoli is to see more at bats at DH now, unless we acquire another outfielder.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
Agree on the Mathis and his defense being better than Naps, but no on the offense
Too small of a sample size in the playoffs to conclude that Mathis somehow can finally hit MLB pitching consistently
RIP Nick Adenhart
You don't trade Rivera
just to free up space. He’s too cheap. You have to get something really good back for him. Or else package him with Matthews.
The HK-47 hitting droid is the finest line drive machine ever built
by RallyMonkey5 on Dec 7, 2009 4:37 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Hell No!!!!!!!
At Rivera’s salary level he is just as good a deal as Abreu was last year. And he defends better than both Abreu and Bay.
That and I just broke his jersey in with 2 playoff wins. I’m not f***in’ buying another one!!
"Well make more fuckin' money. This is America. You don't make money, then you're a fuckin' douchebag." - Mr French "The Departed"
"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter
This trade could happen
I heard the Mets just ordered a gallon of blonde highlight cream and some vanilla scented bats.
It isn't that I hate Boston, just that I hate Bostonians.
and they checked in on kelvim too
are the Mets turning into the new Cardinals AKA the destination for Angel leftovers?
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 7, 2009 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
VERY nice.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
I thought Rivera was always smelling the burning wood...
Now it turns out he was burning vanilla incense !
Rivera, Saunders, Wood, and Fuentes in return for...
Frankie, Wright, and Johan Santana.
If that’s too much, we can hold back on Saunders.
I've got nothing.
but if we trade those guys...
whos left to give to the tigers for granderson ?
IT COULD HAPPEN
by BigBangRobbDawgg on Dec 7, 2009 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
Head asplode.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
This actually makes more sense than half the stuff we see posted on here.
Not that it would ever happen.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Rivera to Mets
Try for John Maine. Mets are trying to unload him and have been in discussions with Brewers to trade Cory Hart for John Maine.
Don’t understand this rumor since if the Angels do sign Bay (he’s a LF and not a RF) why not just shift Rivera to RF/DH? He’s cheap and had a good year in 2009. Only other thought is Arte wants to re-sign Vlad to be DH so Abreu plays RF and Maine becomes #5 starter replacing Lackey in the rotation.
unload GMJ - The PROBLEM
Coco Crisp wants $2-3M.
GMJ earns $11M?
And who would not want a player named after a kids cereal? What a marketing bonaza.
I would miss the “Battsniffer”. AAH. Pinetar.
For those saying GMJ is untradeable
There’s been enough rumors online to indicate otherwise. I was also listening to “The Drive” last night and whoever Biggs was talking to in Indy said it appears the Angels do actually have some suitors for him.
One of the possible scenarios he mentioned was a three way deal with the Angels, Cubs, and Mets involving GMJ, Bradley, and Luis Castillo (I think). He didn’t have details, but if that trade involved just us moving GMJ and at least half of his salary at a minimum, I’d take it.
The Cubs getting GMJ and Castillo, the Mets getting Bradely and us getting another $11 million or so to spend sounds good to me. Then we can keep Juan Rivera who we would be idiotic to trade.
"Well make more fuckin' money. This is America. You don't make money, then you're a fuckin' douchebag." - Mr French "The Departed"
"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter
Agreed.
I don’t see who the Mets have to make this a good move for Rivera. But if we’re simply adding Matthews to the equation to drop some salary, works for me.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
So who do we get in that trade?
The only way to trade him is for someone else’s expensive problem. Why trade one for another?
These rumors are bullshit.
We get a salary dump.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Dec 10, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
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