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Post-Abreu, thinking trade options...

Whilst I’m delighted with the acquisition, (we’re stronger immediately, hallelujah) you’d have to look at the current roster / depth chart and think there’s either some serious juggling to be done by Mr Scoscia or there are more moves afoot. 

Two serious options for next year, Figgins as rotating super-sub and Napoli as part-time DH, appear to have been taken off the table by this move, which really puts the squeeze on Wood and Mathis.

Star-divide

Here’s my take on the situation:

 

OF Current starters:

4-way OF/DH rotation: Abreu, Vlad, Hula-Dula, Johnny Rivers

Candidates for assignment / trade:  Willits, GMJ

 

I’d be hugely surprised if this 4-way OF rotation doesn’t happen.  There are still a lot of cheap FAs out there, so the trade value for these two is in the shitter (especially so for GMJ, who we can’t trade even if we want to), unless someone wants Willits just because he’s cheap and they need a lead-off.  Either way, someone has to go.

 

IF Current starters:

3B/SS/2B/1B: Figgins, Aybar, Kendrick, Morales

The rest: Wood, Mice Tits, Quinlan, S-Rod, Brown

 

The right side looks nailed on – Howie and Kendry.  Q will stay, because he’s versatile and seems to give Mike a boner.  As for the rest, you’d have to say that the only one who’s untouchable is Wood (and perhaps Kendrick), but he doesn’t appear to have an opening at present, because Figgins won’t be playing super-sub, since Abreu is nominally taking up the DH.  I would suggest Figgins, Aybar, Izturis, S-Rod and perhaps Kendrick are all possible candidates for trade, with Figgins most likely.  But if so, who leads off…?

 

C Current starters:

Napoli, Mathis

The rest: Wilson, Budde

 

Since he’s got forearms like Popeye and is no longer going to be DHing 50 odd games (which is what I was hoping for), Napoli is the chosen one and Mathis is relegated to 1 start each time around the rotation.  Which begs the question, can we find him another team with a CF for him to play catch with once a week while the runner advances to 3rd? Budde or Wilson can back up.

 

Rotation:

Lackey, Santana, Saunders, Weaver, A.N.Other (Adenhart, Moseley, Ortega, Loux?)

 

Here’s the gap that needs filling.  Adenhart needs another year, Ortega and Moseley both fill me with a certain amount of suspicion.

 

Pen:

Fuentes, Shields, Oliver, ‘Dondo, Speier, Jepsen,

The rest: Loux, Moseley, Bulger, Thompson

 

Speier needs to have a good spring.  Loux and Moseley are either going to be long man or starter, I would have thought.  Bulger, Thompson look like possible trade bait.

 

So, what would you do if it was you running around in the dead of night, dressed in black, laying waste to Del Taco outlets with your katana and throwing stars? 

Who do you start?

Who do you trade?

What do you want in return?

 

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My thoughts...

Start: Abreu DH, Kendrick 2B, Guerrero RF, Napoli C, Morales 1B, Hunter CF, Rivera LF, Wood 3B, Aybar SS (Happy to swap around Abreu and Kendrick or stick in Aybar / Izturis at the top if they’re showing the skillz)

Available for trade: Figgins, Willits (he has until GMJ returns from injury to prove his worth), GMJ, Izturiz, S-Rod, Bulger, Thompson, Loux, Moseley. Probably in the form of Figgins +1 or 2.

In return: Outfield prospects, our lot ain’t getting any younger

I see red people

by The Limey on Feb 11, 2009 9:38 AM PST reply actions  

Agree on

all except S-Rod and GMJ still has a no trade claus. But instead of outfield prospects, which we can draft this year, I would go out and get a #5 guy. Figgins is my first guy to go because he has the most value.

Give the young guns a chance...if they suck wellll...

by angelskid2210 on Feb 11, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Prediction: GMJ is on the rebound

they interviewed him during the Lakers game last night, and was IMHO sounding like a man on a mission.

Said he was doing two-a-days since November. And when asked about now that Spring Training is starting soon that its time to go back to work, GMJ replied “I’ve been working since October 28. The day I had the operation.”

by eyespy on Feb 11, 2009 9:55 AM PST reply actions  

And they don't rebound either...

…they just hit the floor, stick and stink the place out

I see red people

by The Limey on Feb 11, 2009 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

You can Polish a turd

But it is still and always will be a turd.

Give the young guns a chance...if they suck wellll...

by angelskid2210 on Feb 11, 2009 10:03 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

You can Polish a turd

Is this a reference to Eastern Europeans?

by rmhalofan on Feb 12, 2009 6:04 AM PST up reply actions  

It's True! You can polich a turd...

They busted the myth that you can’t polish a turd on mythbusters. Watch the video here!

Peanuts...Get your Overpriced Peanuts!

by Angel Hawker on Feb 12, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

LMFAO!

Psyched for another year of whining for that big bat?

by Rally Manatee on Feb 11, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw that interview, too...

I was impressed. I hope it works out, but then our OF becomes even more crowded.

Angels fan since '67

by red floyd on Feb 11, 2009 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Well maybe with this stellar new knee

and attitude we can plug him in as our #5 starter. That will surely cure the problem of a crowded outfield and a #5 spot to fill. Killing two birds with one stone…perfect.

Give the young guns a chance...if they suck wellll...

by angelskid2210 on Feb 11, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Beautiful

let’s start a rally for this.

Give the young guns a chance...if they suck wellll...

by angelskid2210 on Feb 11, 2009 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I loves me some Figgy.

I do, I really do. Going into last year, my two favorite Angels were Figgy and Kotch. I like his attitude, I like his hustle, I like his team play, I like his improvement and steady play at third, I like his triples, I like his speed.

But we gotta trade him.

The time is now. We need to do it before the speed is entirely gone and he is pure punch-and-judy. I hate to say it. But if we can find a good trade partner…a good starter, say…then it has to be done.

I don't know...I'm makin' this up as I go.

by ArkAngel on Feb 11, 2009 10:01 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

hmmm

It’s either Figgins or Aybar that’s going to have to go – hopefully Figgins.

Sure, we may have to deal with a mediocre lead-off guy for a year, but we’ll be better for it. The faster guys like Wood and Aybar (especially Wood) can develop in the Majors, the better of this team is going to be in 3, 4 or 5 years.

trade Figgins for a prospect or 2, go all in on the youngsters and have a great year.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Feb 11, 2009 10:20 AM PST reply actions  

To leverage the Abrue signing...

the team needs to keep Figgy’s OBP in the lineup and try to win this year. I agree that he is the best trade chit, but adding Abreu’s OBP to the lineup with Figgy is great – but immediately subtracting that OBP gain by trading Figgy is cutting off the nose to spite the penis, or whatever that saying is.

This is an interesting opportunity for Ninja Reagins – how he pulls this off will be interesting.

by jimmuscomp on Feb 11, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree

but then if you don’t trade him you leave B-Wood to ride the pine and suffer from splinters all year again. The only way he becomes the guy we all want him to is if he plays he has proven that. So like you said Ninja is going to have to do some imagineering(is this even a word?) with this one.

Give the young guns a chance...if they suck wellll...

by angelskid2210 on Feb 11, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Well then

i guess it is.

Give the young guns a chance...if they suck wellll...

by angelskid2210 on Feb 11, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Somebody will get Injured!

Remember last year with Kendrick, Mice-tits & Figgy.
I’ll wager a beer at the stadium (thats $12 at the Corona stand)
that Kendrick goes DL before the other two. Then we move The Fig to 2B and Wood Man to 3.
Depth is a good thing, esp quality depth.

by AngryFan on Feb 11, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I go back and forth on Figgins a few times a day, but I don’t think the OBP is going to be there this year. He appears to have been BA/BIP lucky in 2008, so .270 is about what I expect his average to be; call that a .340 OBP. That’s ok, but I’d go all in on Wood and just pray you can get .260/.320/.480 out of him. But, man, I can’t say I have a lot of conviction behind this.

Saving countless runs with my defense.

by Sam Miller OCR on Feb 11, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

can someone clarify the cutting of the nose to spite the penis?

it is immensely scary sounding. in reverse its even more disturbing.

Driven into right-center field, Erstad says he has it...the Angels, world champions!

by teopeht on Feb 11, 2009 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

ohhh i think i've heard that before.

Driven into right-center field, Erstad says he has it...the Angels, world champions!

by teopeht on Feb 13, 2009 11:42 PM PST up reply actions  

if we can get abreu for $5 mil

why can’t we pick up pedro, el duque, or mark mulder for a cheap one-year deal?

by NoDakHalo on Feb 11, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Because...

blecch, blecch, and blecch.

(I’m sure someone will call me out for that deep analysis. Heh.)

I don't know...I'm makin' this up as I go.

by ArkAngel on Feb 11, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

We are thin in the rotation

I guess I already used my Manny bomb for the month?

by hauldog on Feb 11, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Someone will step up.

Likely 2 or 4 before the season starts. I really like Shane Loux, by the way. He didn’t get nearly enough credit for what he did last year, and at this point is probably more effective than Moseley.

by rghan on Feb 11, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

i hope you're right...and believe it is possible...

i just have a feeling that this is the one area we cannot have a hole at. our starting pitching will be more important than usual this year because of all these unproven rookie position players.

by NoDakHalo on Feb 11, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree. Loux should get a shot at #5

Have you seen Jim Abbot's Glove Switch? Holy crap.

by HaloDutch on Feb 11, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Wood's no leadoff guy

His speed is OK, but his best case scenario still has too low an OBP. Aybar may develop into a passable leadoff hitter, I don’t think he’s there yet.

by TheGrinch on Feb 13, 2009 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

to be honest, i really like our depth at just about every position...

if there’s a reasonable opportunity to pick up a proven major league starter to fill out the rotation we should go for it. id be willing to trade basically any combination of the guys you listed.

by NoDakHalo on Feb 11, 2009 11:34 AM PST reply actions  

Now that the Nat's have signed Dunn

How about taking a roll of the dice on Nick Johnson? I know he’s recovering from a nasty wrist injury, which can kill a power-hitter’s career. I know that even if he returns from that, he may still have nowhere to play on our club. And I know that even if he returns, he might just sprain his neck while putting on his helmut for BP. But he’s one of the most talented left-handed hitters in the game, the Nats just crowded him out of the picture – and likely don’t want to pick up his tab – and he would be great insurance for us if Morales stumbles.

by rghan on Feb 11, 2009 12:32 PM PST reply actions  

Crucial point – the Nats would likely trade him just to dump his salary

by rghan on Feb 11, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I love the idea of signing him.

I just don’t think it makes sense right now. I guess we could give them Izzy or Aybar. It would be nice to have some power and patience coming off the bench someplace.

Go Angels!!

by ineedanap on Feb 20, 2009 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Trade for a starter

I hate to give up our depth…and we have DEEP depth…but I am not looking forward to every fifth game right now. I think we are best off putting Kelvim in the pen when he returns and that leaves us with a number of options for the #5 starter…none of ‘em good. Maybe Adenhart or one of the others steps up and impresses. But I think if we’re not exploring trade options for a starter we’re missing the boat.

I’d love to know how hard we tried to acquire Peavy, whether that could be addressed again given the Abreu acquisition, and whether Peavy would even approve the trade. But I’d also like to know what other options have been explored. I don’t know any other team with a surplus of pitching, but there are certainly a number of teams that are rebuilding. Who could we get?

I don't know...I'm makin' this up as I go.

by ArkAngel on Feb 11, 2009 1:33 PM PST reply actions  

Recursiveness

The OC Register blog weighs in.

I don't know...I'm makin' this up as I go.

by ArkAngel on Feb 11, 2009 1:39 PM PST reply actions  

Ha, ha....

…first time I’ve been mentioned in the OC register since they opened the NIxon library in Yorba Linda. I was interviewed by some junior reporter and suggested that your 4 presidents (Nixon, Ford, Bush, Reagan) were a pretty poor substitute for Queen Elizabeth II and her immediate family.

I was 12 or so, it didn’t translate too well.

I see red people

by The Limey on Feb 11, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Wotta git.

LOL

I don't know...I'm makin' this up as I go.

by ArkAngel on Feb 11, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, not my most splendid moment...

…12 year olds commenting on politics usually come across like 12 year olds commenting on politics.

Having said that, I will stand by the sentiment – Libby Windsor, Gawd bless ’er.

I see red people

by The Limey on Feb 11, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t click the link, but let me guess … Fangraphs says so??

by Downing Rules on Feb 11, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

No it looked to be opinion

I like his posts, I just disagree with this statement

I guess I already used my Manny bomb for the month?

by hauldog on Feb 11, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

with the way you summarize it (GMJ=GA) I disagree with it already.

by Downing Rules on Feb 11, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Just one sentence. Not integral to the post itself.

I guess I already used my Manny bomb for the month?

by hauldog on Feb 11, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Let me defend

Yeah, I’m not ready to take a bullet for that statement, but I based it on PECOTA projections and Marcels, both of which rate them nearly identical, with a slight edge switching between the two.

PECOTA: .275/.316/.422 and 5.8 VORP for GA, .265/336/.395 and 5.6 VORP for GMJ. And GMJ’s 2007 was a dead ringer for a modern GA season in OBP/SLG.

So, yeah, that’s the justification, but feel free to chuck it if it gets in the way.

Saving countless runs with my defense.

by Sam Miller OCR on Feb 11, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I see it...

GA is on the downturn in his career though, while GMJ is being paid like he is an above average player – which he was exactly once.

I am the first to rag on GA (and Erstad) around here – but he had a hell of a peak in the early part of this century. Looking at 1997-1998 I don’t think anyone thought that 30+ HR’s were in his future. The OBP never came around, but he slugged well enough to be above average – which has value.

Of course the extension in 2004 was lunacy. He was coming off a good year, but also off of his very first serious injury and it was friggin’ arthritis. Why re-up him then? Stoneman did a lot of good (Mice Tits and Rivera for Guillen and of course the Vlad signing) but the extensions for GA and Erstad were foolish. He also pulled the trigger and traded the wrong outfielder in 2000 when he dealt Jimmy Edmonds. Ersty was the guy that needed to go…

by jimmuscomp on Feb 11, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Edmonds needed to go

he was more of a “Mo Vaughn” in the clubhouse than Mo Vaughn. And GA signed the extension about a month before the arthritis kicked in.

by Rev Halofan on Feb 11, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions  

True that

Edmonds was widely reported at the time to be a clubhouse problem. Add to that the way he gave up his body in the OF and you had the makings of a player with a high probability of recurring injury and reduced performance.

Of course, it didn’t turn out that way, but it was still a high probability.

Erstad, on the other hand, was the voice and heart of the team, and was the exact person the team needed to keep. He likewise gave up his body for a play on a routine basis, but he led the team at the same time.

by George Kaplan on Feb 12, 2009 4:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep - his grit made him better

than the guy with better numbers…

I just disagree with this.

The clubhouse thing gets overplayed, IMO. Teams can hate each other and win. It happens all the time, and no one complained about Edmonds in St. Louis, did they?

I respect your opinion, I just don’t agree with it.

by jimmuscomp on Feb 12, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

i have to disagree with the clubhouse thing to a certain point

do we know what really went on in STL? we know the rumors here because we follow the team closely but who knows what, if anything, happened in STL. obviously as people say winning cures all.

do we win the WS with Edmunds instead of Erstad in 02?

if you have bad chemistry in the clubhouse and you don’t win it all or have at least some success i think it turns the clubhouse into a soap opera with players taking sides. look at the Lakers, when they won they all seem to get along but once they couldn’t win everything fell apart. players going after each other.

by HALO_86 on Feb 12, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Not really the point

Edmonds may well have been a superior player with the leather and the lumber, but Erstad still provided excellent D in CF, plus that intangible which Edmonds seems to lack:

Leadership.

Even Eisner, who by his own admission knew little about baseball and even less about the Angels, recognized that in Erstad and cancelled the trade with the White Sox which would have brought Garland to the Angels. Eisner saw that leadership Erstad brought to the team, the singleminded focus on the game and upon winning which was a critical piece of the Angels 2002 team.

Personally, I can’t imagine the Angels going all the way in 2002 with Edmonds instead of Erstad patrolling CF. The team might have been better offensively, but I don’t think it would have survived the valleys in the season as it did with Erstad leading in the clubhouse.

by George Kaplan on Feb 16, 2009 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Your point?

Erstad was the right man at the right time. What he meant ti that team could not have been replaced by Edmonds.

by George Kaplan on Feb 16, 2009 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

That may be the case, but what about his great leadership qualities in every other year of his career?

This whole leadership and intangibles discussion is BS, and only used as a tool to compensate for the weak bat.

by snowhor on Feb 16, 2009 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't agree.

Leadership, clubhouse presence, ability to teach, and many other intangibles are great contributors to a team. When you find a player who has them AND can hit, you hang on to them. Which is why we’ll never have Albert Pujols on our team.

I don't know...I'm makin' this up as I go.

by ArkAngel on Feb 16, 2009 7:41 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Erstad is the only player in MLB HISTORY

to win a Gold Glove at 2 different positions. Cool little fact that for those who may not know!

by MidwayCityLivestock on Feb 19, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn't it three?

LF, CF and 1B. The OF is given as a group, but he played two different OF spots in the years he won.

by George Kaplan on Feb 20, 2009 5:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Good call.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/e/erstada01.shtml

His gold glove years:
2000 was 112 games in LF, 30 games in CF, although he played a total of 136 games in the OF (he must have shifted positions in 6 of the games).
2002 was 143 games in CF and 5 at 1B
2004 was 124 games at 1B only

The correct statement is that Erstad is the first player to win a gold glove in BOTH the outfield and the infield. I am sure others have won at two different positions, however, Ersty is the first to win OF and IF GG’s.

by Downing Rules on Feb 20, 2009 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I think

…three Gold Gloves at three different positions is still pretty cool. There are different disciplines to playing LF than CF, just as there are between inf and OF (though the latter are more pronounced). Many players don’t show defensive excellence at a single position, but Erstad did in three starting positions.

by George Kaplan on Feb 20, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree it is pretty cool, I am just saying that I am sure OTHERS HAVE DONE IT. Erstad is the first to win BOTH an OF and IF award, which is not just “pretty cool,” but in fact “F-ing AMAZING!”

by Downing Rules on Feb 20, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Linky

There may have been winners at different OF positions sure, but stated HERE as the only multiple “position” winner.

by MidwayCityLivestock on Feb 23, 2009 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

My statement was limited to the two players at this moment in time, on the field and independent of contract status.

Saving countless runs with my defense.

by Sam Miller OCR on Feb 12, 2009 6:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Extension came before arthritis.

I guess I already used my Manny bomb for the month?

by hauldog on Feb 12, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

like days before

GA GA he's the man, if he can't do it, no one can

by Moondoggy on Feb 16, 2009 6:20 AM PST up reply actions  

That is not relevant

The fact he had rheumatoid arthritis was not known at the time the extension was signed.

I guess I already used my Manny bomb for the month?

by hauldog on Feb 19, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Trade Figgy, Izzy, Willits, and GMJ once he realizes he'll never start again

For the non-GMJ package, get Jake Peavy in return. As for the leadoff “question,” there’s no question about it — Abreu would make a much better leadoff hitter than Figgins. Bye, Chone!

by mattwelch on Feb 11, 2009 3:39 PM PST reply actions  

There is nothing there the Padres want or need

What Towers will want is guys like Adenhart, Jepsen, Matt Brown and Jordan Walden. He isn’t interested in players who are already into their arbitration years or beyond, he wants them in the minors, ready to make the jump in the next 1-3 years, and under team control for years.

If you need a model, think of the package Daniels got from the Braves for Texieira. Less than two years later, 3 or 4 of those 5 players in the trade could be on the 25 man roster for the Rangers, including some young power arms. That is the sort of haul Towers wants, not to take on bad contracts and aging speedsters in walk years.

by George Kaplan on Feb 11, 2009 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

yup

and since they traded Khalil, a cheap shortstop with a great glove would fit well.
don’t we have one of those?

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Feb 12, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

We do

and I left Sean Rodriguez off my list. Aybar would also fit the profile. Kendrick would not, nor would Jered Weaver or Santana.

Not all of the players Towers sought from the Braves or Cubs were ready for the bigs. He doesn’t want all of them to ripen at once.

by George Kaplan on Feb 12, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

i know

i was being sarcastic.

it would probably be a trade of Aybar, Adenhart, Walden/Ortega and Trumbo.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Feb 12, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm pretty happy as is.

All I wanted was another big bat, and hopefully that’s Abreu.

I guess I can see the rationale behind trading Figgins now, but I’m not sure I want to roll the dice on Wood when there are so many other question marks already. I’m still not sold on Aybar. I’d rather trade him and Mathis (and a prospect SP if needed) for a #5 starter, and let Wood be Izzy’s and Figgin’s back up (or steal Izzy’s job if he can).

Concerning GMJ, we need to pretend like he is not on our team. He will not start for us, and we cannot trade him. Just eat the contract. Let him keep being a high paid benchwarmer once he returns from injury.

Psyched for another year of whining for that big bat?

by Rally Manatee on Feb 11, 2009 4:29 PM PST reply actions  

Good point on the number of question marks:

Here are three heavy ones going into 2009:

?: Is Howie Kendrick going to last more than 100 games?
?: Is Kendry Morales going to be a solid first-baseman (batting AND fielding)?
?: Can Brandon Wood be the next Troy Glaus at the hot corner?

by Downing Rules on Feb 11, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I am not convinced they play Wood at 3rd.

I guess I already used my Manny bomb for the month?

by hauldog on Feb 11, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

In most seasons, I'd agree with you...

…but this season, the competition is so weak, that you almost have to give him the chance.

If it all goes to shit, so be it, but it’s less likely to hurt in ’09 as ’10 or ’11

I see red people

by The Limey on Feb 11, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Meaning he is the SS

I guess I already used my Manny bomb for the month?

by hauldog on Feb 11, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahh, I see...

…Aybar in the out tray?

I see red people

by The Limey on Feb 11, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Not to mention

?: Will Naps last a whole season, and if so, will he hit 40 HR?
?: Will Rivera return to form?
?: Will Vlad return to form?

Welcome Bobby 'Big Bat' Abreu.

by Rally Manatee on Feb 11, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

On the flip side…. these kinds of questions are what make 2009 a great year to be watching!

by Downing Rules on Feb 11, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea I'm stoked!

I just hope they get rid of some freakin outfielders and middle infielders.

by TheAntiSox on Feb 11, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Yay!

Imagine if Naps does hit 40, Vlad and Rivera hit 30, Abreu and Hunter hit 20… Maybe Morales will hit 20. Hell, even Wood could hit 20 if he sees some playing time! We could possibly become a power hitting team this year! With speed! Meanwhile, our pitching will hold the opposition to 2-3 runs a game. Yup, I’m optimistic.

Welcome Bobby 'Big Bat' Abreu.

by Rally Manatee on Feb 11, 2009 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yay?

It is more likely that Nap hits 20, Vlad hits 25, Hunter hits 20, Abreu hits 15 and Morales hits 15. I’m really hoping Abreu doesn’t see the field, love the bat and the walks but he is not to be trusted in the OF. I’m glad we finally have an OBP guy.

by SalmonStream on Feb 11, 2009 4:53 PM PST reply actions  

Do Not Trade Figgy

Wow… I keep hearing about trading Chone Figgins to fill the last spot of our rotation and I am shocked. He is the only legitimate lead-off option we have right now and he can play anywhere on the field. We need to keep our depth in place!

The only option would be if he could be packaged in a deal for Peavy or another quality starter. What kinds of package would it take to land Peavy? Do we revisit it with the Padres?

Figgy, Ortega, and prospect for Peavy?

Light up the Freakin Halo!

by marshgr on Feb 12, 2009 12:29 AM PST reply actions  

That'll only happen...

…if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.

They’ll want 2 or 3 ‘A’ grade prospects, and they’ll need to be pretty close to perfect.

I see red people

by The Limey on Feb 12, 2009 7:55 AM PST up reply actions  

alot

That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey

by anaheim angels on Feb 15, 2009 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

w/abreu hitting behind him, figgy could have a huge year...

as long as he gets on base. either trade him at the deadline or let him walk as a free agent and collect two more draft picks.

by thejd on Feb 12, 2009 1:20 PM PST reply actions  

Johnny Rivers over GMJ?

dumb dumb dumb.

GMJ still has potential. On top of that, for as much money as we are paying him, there is no way we are going to send him on “assignment”. Not to mention HE HAS A FRIGGIN TRADE CLAUSE!!!!!!!!!!!

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Feb 12, 2009 2:00 PM PST reply actions  

we only speak latin here.

by Downing Rules on Feb 13, 2009 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

cuius regio, eius religio!

Driven into right-center field, Erstad says he has it...the Angels, world champions!

by teopeht on Feb 13, 2009 11:44 PM PST up reply actions  

il più luminoso

That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey

by anaheim angels on Feb 15, 2009 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

ouyay unnyfay anmay

Only speak pig latin here.

I was uncool before uncool was cool.

by WiHaloFan on Feb 16, 2009 4:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Why trade Mathis? Albeit he hasn’t performed well at this level, but he is better than Budde or Wilson. Plus, if Napoli gets injured, you’d be stuck with Budde and Wilson as your catchers. Its not like Mathis makes a isht-ton of money, and he could still prove to be a good defender at this level. Napoli and Mathis make a good combo and if either is injured then we can bring up Budde.

I don’t see us trading Figgins, at least it wouldn’t be smart until we find someone to leadoff. Aybar would be a good candidate, but he can niether get on base or steal them. If the rookies stick I could see Figgins move to the OF after Abreu leaves, or we could trade him for a power bat, but that is next year.

Anyway, obviously Brown starts in AAA and I think it couldn’t hurt Rodriguez to do the same. I think ST will be a battle for SS between Aybar and Wood. If Aybar improves his OBP and basestealling he should be our starting SS, if he cannot he could be our super-sub. Either way Wood needs to earn a role. Izzy is cool, but he just can’t stay healthy enough to be a starter.

Willits will probably be the backup OF, until GMJ gets back, then (if he has option years left) it will be back to AAA for him. So no moves needed there.

I think as far as the rotation, we’ll have Moseley, Ortega, and Loux battling for the 5th spot, unless Adenhart proves he’s ready.

Regardless, I would stand pat for now and re-evaluate at midseason.

Go Angels!!

by ineedanap on Feb 20, 2009 8:11 PM PST reply actions  

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