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Sean Smith / Chone Projections - Part 2

I always think its cool to see Angels' fans where I least expect them.  Years ago, and what I mean by "years" ago is back I when I was growing up in the '60's and '70's, you never saw Angels gear "out in public".  It was almost like a secret society.  When I learned Sean Smith, the creator of Chone projections was an Angels fan, it got me curious as to how an east coast guy became a fan of a west coast team.  "I first got into baseball in 1982.  I don't really remember how it happened, probably starting with Reggie Jackson (my dad is from NY and a big Yankees fan).  I just really fell in love with that team, although I probably only saw them play a few times before the playoffs, this being 1982 and Extra Innings or MLB.TV being a long way off.  I do remember that by playoff time, I was hooked, watching every game, and after game 5 just lost it and burst out crying.  Reggie might have been the player to draw me to the team, but by the end of the year Downing was my favorite player.  Still is.  I named my cat after him, though Brian Downing Kaat is a completely different type of player." 

In part one of this article, Sean stated that he projected Casey Kotchman's season because the Angels were rumored to be trading for Paul Konerko.  I asked Sean how Kendry Morales,  Kotchman's eventual replacement was going to do in 2009, "I think Kendry will hit for a high average, show some power, and play solid defense.  He's not a patient hitter, at all, so he probably won't be as productive as the triple crown stats say he is.  He's destined to be overrated by the casual fan and underrated by statheads.  Kind of like Garret Anderson.  I think he'll pick up the slack for GA.  He's not a great player, but is all right.  That kind of player is nice to have when he's cheap, not so nice when you are paying 14 million for him."

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Another player I wanted Sean's opinion on was Brandon Wood.  "I'm not as sure about Wood.  His winter ball experience must have been embarrassing.", said Smith, referring to Wood's release from his Dominican winter league team after hitting .167 in 13 games.  "He probably needs to be shown a lot of patience for him to develop into a quality big leaguer, and with Figgins, Aybar, Izturis, and Sean Rodriguez (who hit even better than Wood at AAA last year) I'm not sure he'll get that full opportunity this year.  If it's a tight pennant race, I'm not sure they can afford to.  I sincerely hope I'm wrong because I'd love to see Brandon hit .265 with 30 homers."  When asked about which Angel player was going to be a bust, the Halo fan in him came out, "A bust?  Nobody."  But then he added, "if I have to pick one maybe Howie Kendrick.  I'm worried about the injuries and inability to lay off the slider outside stalling his development.  With his lack of patience, he has to hit .300 to be an asset, .270 would be a disaster.  I really hope this doesn't happen, I want to see .330 with 15 homers out of him, but I'm worried."  The player Sean picks to have a big year is Jered Weaver, "Weaver will take the step forward to become an ace, like Lackey, Santana, and Saunders have before him.  My projections see him as the equal to Lackey and Santana."

Last week, Baseball Prospectus came out with their predictions for season standings.  Prior to the Angels signing Bobby Abreu, their PECOTA based projections had the AL West being won by the Oakland A's by 3 games over the Angels.  Since the Abreu signing, Baseball Prospectus has revised their projections, moving the Angels into first by 2 games.  When I asked Sean if he uses his Chone system to project season outcomes, he stated that he did and it has been very good at picking the winners, "Since I started, I've been right in the AL west 3 teams in a row (hate to say I called 2006)."  Sean says his team projections are completed and he says, "It's on my blog, and has the good guys winning the division by 5 games."  I asked Sean about this year's race with Oakland, "I think the Angels are still the best team.  I'm not that scared by Oakland, their pitching could really stink and adding Giambi when you have Cust means one of them has to stink up the field.  Which puts more pressure on the unproven pitching.  The Angels do not look like a powerhouse this year, so the division will be a lot closer, but I still think they have the best talent.  I could see the Angels winning the division with 85-88 wins this time.  Who knows?  Maybe an 86 win team can do in the playoffs what the 100 win team could not.  Baseball is a funny game."

-- Be sure to check out Sean's websites Baseball Projection (www.baseballprojection.com) for player projections and Angels All the Way (www.lanaheimangelfan.blogspot.com) to read Sean's take on the Angels --

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OT - Angels gear in the wild...

I always think its cool to see Angels’ fans where I least expect them. Years ago, and what I mean by “years” ago is back I when I was growing up in the ’60’s and ’70’s, you never saw Angels gear “out in public”.

Yesterday, I took my wife to Chumash Casino for her birthday (yes, it’s on V-day), and while I was sitting at the blackjack table, a gentleman with a 4th of July Angels cap sat down. He was from SLO, and we talked about the Abreu acquisition for a bit.

Angels fan since '67

by red floyd on Feb 15, 2009 8:34 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Angels will win 90 to 95 games...Sorry Chone

“It doesn’t matter how good your three-four hitters are if you don’t have a deep lineup that spins back to the top of order,” Scioscia said. “There were times last year when we were looking to pressure teams every third or fourth inning. We want to make things happen every inning, and we’re much closer to that now.”

Asked if the Angels are good enough to win a World Series, Scioscia didn’t waver.

“We feel we are,” he said. “If you look at the strength of the club, what will drive any team toward that final goal is going to be how the pitching performs and holds up. We have guys who have pitched deep into seasons and done well, guys who have gone into tough parks and pitched well.”

The team’s fortunes could swing on Rivera, Kendrick and Morales. If Rivera, who missed most of 2007 because of a broken leg, and Kendrick, limited by hamstring injuries to 92 games last season, remain sound, and Morales hits big league pitching on a consistent basis, the Angels could win 90 to 95 games.

If any of the three suffers a major injury or fails to perform up to expectations, the Angels could be more of an 85-win team that struggles to win a weak division.

“We don’t need exceptional years from everyone,” Scioscia said, “but any team needs young players to come up and play well. Boston has done a terrific job with that, the Yankees and Rays have. We need our young guys to play to their potential.”

mike.digiovanna@latimes.com

by Kristy_Joe on Feb 15, 2009 1:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

i dont know

youre probably projecting 95 wins under the assumption we get the exact same pitching performances we did last year. I find that very unlikely. I think Santana will still be great, but not as great as last year…and I think Joe reverts to being solid/average and not an All Star. Depending on how the 5th starter performs, i think its safe to say our pitching might be a tad worse this year.

Factor in we’re now breaking in Morales and could again deal with a Napoli/Kendrick/Aybar injury scenario that forcesa lot of Mathis, Wood or Rodriguez into the lineup…and theres potential for it to get ugly at times.

Id say 85-88 wins is about what i’d guess. But whats wrong with that? We cant be a beast every year

by ihearhowie2.0 on Feb 16, 2009 5:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

opp can happen

i’m going to factor in were going to have Lackey for a full season. Ervin will be as good or be slightly better. Saunders to be solid not an all-star but doesn’t fall of the cliff. i’m going to feel that Weaver will have a breakout year sorta like Ervin in 08. the #5 is a ? but i’m going to figure since we have a good pen that will keep us in the games if the #5 spot blows up in a bad way. i think our pen is stronger then last year assuming Arredondo doesn’t have a soph slump and JS bounces back to solid work.

i think our hitters are a year older and going to learn and feed off of last year. so they will get better. Vlad with a healthier knee will have a big bounce back year. Abreu can only help the offense.

so with optimistic view i see us winning around 96-101W. so i guess i’m a lil more crazier then kristy_joe.

by HALO_86 on Feb 16, 2009 6:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Growing up in the 60's and 70's

Man, your old.

Ever catch an Angels home game at Dodger Stadium?

Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.

by vladtheimpaler on Feb 15, 2009 1:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

No...

Turn the page, buddy. We all make errors! First pitch 7:07 tomorrow.

by Kristy_Joe on Feb 15, 2009 1:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

???

?

Light Up That Halo!

by Clutch on Feb 15, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

trim trim

"i got 5ive on it"

by Funke5ive on Feb 15, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Once again...

I have no idea what you’re talking about.

Stop drinking the bong water.

I was uncool before uncool was cool.

by WiHaloFan on Feb 16, 2009 4:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Do you think

it appropriate to say “man your old”? What relevance does that have to this article? Are you addressing me? Sorry it wasn’t indented, but these type of comments warrant the exact response given. As you write “Once again”…My response is “Turn the page,buddy. We all make errors.” Meaning if you dwell on what happened then you’ll never move forward. A player having a bad day, say making a few errors and having LOBs all night has to forget about it because tomorrow comes around and the first pitch is at 7:07.

There. Is it better that I write all that tome.

Or did you not read the link to an article in your post that said the Angels would win 85 games? Which part did you not understand?

I read your tome(s) and commented basically saying that last year, the Angels pressured the opponents every 3 – 4 inning. However, this year the lineup is deeper and if Kendrick, Rivera and Morales play up to their potential and stay healthy, then the Angels will be pressuring the opponents every inning, according to the writer and the manager. The result would be 90 – 95 Halo victories, at least.

So I was arguing against your Chone, which seemed to give but 85. So you choose not to understand, fine. Again, no need for name calling. You could ask for clarification.

by Kristy_Joe on Feb 16, 2009 9:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

BTW

Last year Chone picked the Angels with 91 wins.

by Kristy_Joe on Feb 16, 2009 9:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

BTW

I don’t see a single comment here on topic except mine. When I do write about it, why are you blasting it? Why not the OT or the Canadian or the 69? WTF?

I like your writing. I read it. I go to the links. I comment about it. I try to discuss it.

I’m certain you put plenty of effort into it. Thank you.

by Kristy_Joe on Feb 16, 2009 9:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

“No… Turn the page, buddy. We all make errors! First pitch 7:07 tomorrow.”

This comment was not a “reply-to” so nobody knew to what it referred. If you have a message all the way at the left of the column, it means you are talking to WiHaloFan since he authored the fanpost.

vladtheimpaler’s note: “Growing up in the 60’s and 70’s Man, your old. Ever catch an Angels home game at Dodger Stadium?” is pointing at WiHaloFan, not you, so you don’t need to make any comment on it.

by Downing Rules on Feb 16, 2009 9:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I apologize

However, I think the “Man, your old” comment was meant for me since I wrote about growing up in the ’60’s and ’70’s.

To be honest though, I truly have a hard time understanding a lot of your comments, but I’ll try harder.

Peace out-

I was uncool before uncool was cool.

by WiHaloFan on Feb 16, 2009 9:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

I grew up in 40s and 50s and have calcification of the brain. I try to write clearly, but I’ll try harder. My writing seems to make sense to me. Then again I used to like the prime rib dinner at the Indian Casino on Bob Hope Drive. But now? Fagetaboutit. What’s happened to quality?

My Ph.D. does me little good now. However, should the rain stop I’m off to spring training with a stop at Bob Hope Drive back on the freeway at Ramon. Can’t even remember what city. Just near Palm Springs.

Oh yea, they used to serve all you could eat smoked salmon with the prime rib. Now the cigarette smoke knocks me out. I do see that Motley Crew is playing almost every casino on I-10. Blah.

I’ll try and get my thoughts more focused. But the Angels blog is the only blog of its kind. You are lucky to be young. I am old and have seen horror. My hands and body shake without control. So comments like man you’re old, even if they are in the wrong column, I don’t notice. Maybe I don’t notice because I’m 20 years your senior at least and my brain is rotting from the inside. So sometimes I go off when I’ve had a rough outing, say a round trip to AZ for no reason where I had to return because of the weather.

So again I did apologize to the blog. I meant it. I ask for your patience. I ask that you either ignore me or ask me a question. Either way, I prefer it rather than a punch in the gut.

Thanks

by Kristy_Joe on Feb 16, 2009 10:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's all good

Hang in there, Angel fan.

Oh, and Ph. D’s are not easy to come by. Congratulations for all the hard work.

Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.

by vladtheimpaler on Feb 20, 2009 2:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Growing up in the 60’s

I live in Eastern Canada ( about 8 hours from Boston, avid area for the BoSox ) and have been a die hard fan since the team’s inception, 1961.

At the time I began to take a keen interest in baseball and not having a favourite team, I chose the Angels, liked the name and what really turned me to the team was their hats………loved the embroided halo on top of the hats, wish they still had that design.

Favourite players then were Lee Thomas, Leon Wagner and Jim Fregosi. I could pick up radio broadcasts in those days when the Angels played Boston, New York, Baltimore, Washington Senators, Cleveland, Detroit and on a good night, Chicago.
Lost some sleep for sure, when those teams played the Halos in L.A.

by Canada Angel on Feb 15, 2009 7:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but

Which hockey team do you root for? If you say the Ducks I’m sure the RCMP will come out of the woodwork and club you. ;-)

Bye Bye Ohio, hello Valencia!

by anaheimisnotla on Feb 15, 2009 9:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My Hockey team is :

" If you say the Ducks I’m sure the RCMP will come out of the woodwork and club you. ;-) " ……..and that is why I am a Toronto Maple Leaf Fan, so, a Halo on one sleeve and a Maple Leaf on the other.

Speaking of the Leafs, I expect good things in the near future, as they now have Brian Burke calling the shots now, ex GM of the Ducks.

by Canada Angel on Feb 16, 2009 5:33 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

GA replacement?

No way this Kendry kid is going to be able to replace GA. Not with his numbers and certainly not with his presence in our clubhouse. Just my opinion.

by HALO12 on Feb 19, 2009 2:38 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

No one

Will ever be able to replace GA. Well, maybe if they are a top five Angel of all time.

Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.

by vladtheimpaler on Feb 20, 2009 2:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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