Top 10 Worst Angels
by The Limey on Mar 16, 2009 8:08 AM PDT
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PrintSo, in the latest countdown of the 100 greatest Angels, there have been a couple of people speculate during the off-season as to who the 100 worst Angels were. While we’ll probably struggle to find 100 that we care enough about to truly hate, I’m pretty sure that together we can find a Top 10 (and it’ll help kill a couple of the 20 days or so until we start in earnest, and let’s face it, it’s been a little slow around here this past week). I suspect there will be a fairly high crossover with the Top 100 – it’s only natural that love and hate go hand in hand. That’s why divorce lawyers make so much coin.
As a correspondent from far afield, and of relatively recent vintage compared to the club, I’m not going to presume to come up with a list from which to pick – I’ll miss some truly detestable players, and no doubt some great players who have done detestable things. This first part is the nomination phase. Should we get a decent rogues gallery at which to take aim, I’ll do a top 10 vote. Feel free to recommend posts as a way of helping the shortlisting process.
The reasons can as far reaching as you like, you just have to justify it. I suspect most of them will fit into six categories
1. Clubhouse Cancers - you can pick from your common-or-garden asshole type or your irritating show-pony variety
2. Chokers, those that just didn’t have the guts when the chips were down.
3. Over-rated – came with a reputation, or as a trade-piece for one of the beloved and stunk the place out. Or even a player who, to your mind, was loved for no good reason at all – incompetence should not beget love.
4. Hopeless waste of money – I present to you as an obvious recent example this fella (though I suspect this might be a hotly contested category, with plenty of historical precedence)
5. Irrational hatred – we all have players we just can’t stand. I’ll admit it here (knowing that this will be unpopular), I just couldn’t abide this bloke and I can’t begin to properly explain why. Perhaps because in his latter years, when I first start watching baseball, he was the face of the club and I wanted him to be exceptional. If you’re going to be the face of the club, you need to be exceptional, and compared to the leaders of other teams, he just wasn’t. My fault probably for coming late to the party, and my inability to understand the nuances of the game back then in my tender years. And yes, I know, not fair at all.
6. Betrayal – those players who left us behind, either for other clubs, or in more significant, personal snubs. This man is not wearing a Halo in the Hall. I hate that. (Though I’d probably still vote him number 1 in the 100 greatest list).
So, here you go…
1. Name your player (make sure it’s one we care enough about to hate)
2. Describe their sins
3. Make your case
Feel free to nominate more than one – not every Angel is without sin, and some of them have been downright evil…
This Fan-Post is authored by an independent fan. Tell us what you think and how you feel.
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Hopeless waste of money.........and you put GMJ over Slow Mo Vaughn?
hmm……..not my first choice there……..
A person who performs good Karma (deeds) is always held in high esteem
12/19/08 - Thank you KLJ for coming into my life.
by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 16, 2009 8:49 AM PDT reply actions
I'm not putting anyone ahead of anyone, just the 1st example that popped into my head...
…in order to get things kicked off and stimulate debate.
You tell everyone else who you think should be on the top 10 and make the case – it’s not rocket science.
I see red people
And, as I stated...
…“a hotly contested category, with plenty of historical precedence”
I see red people
Edgardo Alfonzo, for having the very worst season in Angel history.
Saving countless runs with my defense.
Did he have enought at bats?
Regardless, Alfonzo was completely.f—ing.worthless. as an Angel. Too bad, too—hard to imagine that Steve Finley actually would have been an UPGRADE over Alfonzo that season.
Light Up That Halo!
Exactly...
If I had my way, Alfonso would rot in independent ball forever. However, the guy we traded to get him was far more disastrous given his 440 plate appearances.
2005 was my all-time favorite season as an Angel fan (mostly because 2002 seems too easy and I’m too young to really remember 79, 82 or 86). And I can’t help think what could’ve been without Finley and The One Who Shall Not Be Mentioned
I always hated Allen Watson
Mostly irrational, but he also had an ERA over 6 in 1998 when we were actually competitive.
You forgot a catagory
7. Absolutely worthless – The tenure of these players on the Angels was utterly without merit in any form, from the day they were signed to the day they got dropped on waivers.
Examples of these characters would be Esteban Yan, Jeff Weaver, Shea Hillenbrand, and the already nominated Edgardo Alphonso.
Also, are we allowed to nominate GM’s? Because Bill Bavasi would have to be at the top of my list.
~Till the Halo burns out...
Well Jeff wasn't completely worthless
He did net us Evans…if that turns out for anything.
Also, he provided a few more wins or divisional lead games for us in 2007, didn’t he? In that everyone else got to beat up on the Mariners just that much more, pushing them that much further behind the Halos…
Light Up That Halo!
Yeah, but he wasn't an Angel in 2007.
As far as Evans, I’ve mostly lost hope that he’ll ever be more than a backup/AAA outfielder ala Tommy Murphy. He just K’s to much and doesn’t have enough upside.
~Till the Halo burns out...
Bavasi would earn the GM top spot based solely on declining to offer Nolan Ryan a contract after the '79 season.
Alluding to Ryan’s 16-14 record that year Bavasi said, “We can replace Nolan with two 8-7 pitchers.”
Did any of out GM’s ever come up with a worse quote?
What followed was a revolving door of Bruce Kison’s, Dave Lemanczyk’s, Ed Halicki’s, Bill Travers, Doug Rau’s, and other long-forgotten wretches that shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same breath as Nolan Ryan.
Bavasi’s statement sounded as “Top Ten” stupid then as it does now.
I was actually refering to Bavasi Jr., he of the
“I got handed a trio of potentially all star outfielders, an elite reliever, and a couple decent starters. Watch me utterly fail to do anything with them for five years while I send the farm system down the crapper.”
~Till the Halo burns out...
Understood. But...
I still vote for Buzzie. The way he let Ryan walk – and the sheer stupidity of his statement – was beyond ear-ringing/mind-numbing.
Jose Guillen
I think this one goes without saying, and it’s probably recent enough for all to remember….but just in case, I will use reason #1 to support my claim.
And possibly Steve Finley for reasons 2-4????
P.S. great topic
That's just Manny being..........a jackass
by autry's cowboys on Mar 16, 2009 10:23 AM PDT reply actions
I think he single-handedly derailed the 2004 playoff run for the Angels. He is well-qualified for the top spot of worst Angel ever due to that fact alone.
by Downing Rules on Mar 18, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I see Top 10 Worst Angels
and I think the worst performing players, So I would not put Guillen on my list.
My list includes
Hillenbrand
Finley
Alfonso
Vaughn
Matthews Jr. – Although he has an opportunity to take himself off the list, if he does something with the playing time he gets this year.
Pain heals, Chicks dig scars, Glory lasts Forever!
I was thinking 'most hated'...
…but as Zu said, ‘absolutely worthless’ is a perfectly good category
I see red people
How do you have Mo Vaughn on your list if you are going with "worst performing?"
69 HR’s and 225 RBI’s in two seasons isn’t ALL THAT BAD…
It was in three seasons.
Saving countless runs with my defense.
by Sam Miller OCR on Mar 17, 2009 6:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Schoeneweis
For dissing Angel fans who threw foul balls back on the field at the 2002 game that was, at the time of its playing, perhaps the last MLB game before a threatened strike. It was the first sign of the Big A fan uprising that carried us through the playoffs, and he was on the wrong side of it. (Though not Kevin Appier, who was on the mound, almost got hit, and said he was nonetheless pretty “geeked” by the outpouring of emotion.)
Also, Schoeny was a jerk about getting demoted to the bullpen.
Agreed
This jackass would top my list, up there with Guillen and big Maurice. Funny, I followed him a bit after Anaheim, but I couldn’t stomach seeing him in our uniform after the aforementioned game. Glad to be in attendance that night.
i know that sosh
could not possibly be in the category of worst angels, but he didnt like it either
Anaheim manager Mike Scioscia said: "I was disappointed. I know the fans are obviously frustrated, we’re frustrated and the players are obviously frustrated. It’s a tough situation.
“I just think if you’re going to voice your opinion, let’s not throw baseballs from the upper deck.”
Go gettem next year, what have we got to lose--Frankie?
by AnaheimHalos61 on Mar 16, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
and my is for jose guillen
straight up
Go gettem next year, what have we got to lose--Frankie?
by AnaheimHalos61 on Mar 16, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Go gettem next year, what have we got to lose--Frankie?
by AnaheimHalos61 on Mar 16, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I was at that game
The tension/electricity in the air was f’ing insane. Our group, which was compromised of office mates from the PR firm I worked for at the time, went to the game. We got kicked out when the office manager’s boyfriend got caught throwing his water bottle onto the field. Foul balls in the second deck were hurled back towards the mound. It was a night I’ll never forget.
Top 10 worst relief pitchers could be it's own full sub-category...
…going back to the “Arson Squad” days of the ’70’s….and not to be out-done by the recent candidates (Esteban Yan, Hector Carrasco, Ben Weber and so on).
Hmm
Yan I’ll agree, along with early ’07 Carrasco. But Carrasco was fairly helpful in 2006, posting a 134 ERA+…
Light Up That Halo!
I'm gonna object to the inclusion of Ben Weber on this list. In the 3 seasons prior to his collapse in
2004, Ben put up ERAs of 3.42, 2.54, and 2.69. For a guy who was dirt cheap, that’s pretty damn good.
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!
by TheOptimist on Mar 17, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
No kidding...
I didn’t see that Weber made any list in here. That is complete BS. He was friggin’ nails for this club. He got more ground balls than any reliever I remember – he was solid. Until he wasn’t
Jim Scully
George Hendrick
I don’t have a real good reason or than the “Joggin’ George” nickname seemed to fit…and I hate players like that.
I was uncool before uncool was cool.
Hendrick gave my friend a bat during BP...
had a big smile and laughed a lot… I always liked him.
Show 'em your a panther... Show 'em what you can do....
by stuck in Romania on Mar 18, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm probably wrong in my dislike
I’ve never met him, but it just seemed like he was “lazy”. Maybe like GA? I could be wrong.
Thanks for the comment.
I was uncool before uncool was cool.
yeah... pretty mellow as I remember...
Very much like GA…
Show 'em your a panther... Show 'em what you can do....
by stuck in Romania on Mar 19, 2009 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions
long list but here goes....
THE WE TRADED WHO FOR THAT CLUB
-butch hobson (traded carney lansford)
-luis sojo and junior felix (traded devon white)
-ken bottenfield (trade jim edmonds but did get ak)
-dave parker (traded dante bichette)
FADING STARS CLUB
-von hayes
-gary gaetti
-dave parker (double entry)
-harold reynolds
IF THEY COULD ONLY STAY HEALTHY & HIT OFF SPEED PITCHING
-dallas mcpherson
-todd greene
SHOWED PROMISE BUT FULFILLED IT ELSEWHERE
-jt snow
-chad curtis
-brian anderson
-damion easley
SHOWED PROMISE BUT DIDN’T FULFILL IT ANYWHERE
-george arias
-jason dickson
-omar olivares
TOKEN CUP OF COFFEE FOR AN EX DOYER WHEN WE DIDN’T HAVE AN IDENTITY AND WERE THEY INSECURE STEPCHILD IN SOCAL CLUB
-fernando
-jerry reuss
-raul mondesi
-mike marshall
VISITED ANAHEIM ON THE WAY TO A PADDED ROOM
-jose guillen
-scott schoenweiss
VISITED ANAHEIM ON THE WAY TO ROID REHAB
-randy velarde
FALSE SENSE OF HOPE THEY WOULD HELP DURING A FUTILE PLAY-OFF PUSH
-ken hill
-gregg jeffries
-ron gant
WASTE OF SPEED
-gary pettis (all that speed but couldn’t get on base)
BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PLAY WITH 9 PLAYERS ON THE FIELD
-steve finley
-esteban yan
-pat rapp
-jeff weaver
-shea hillenbrand
Mine
Explanations at some point:
Jeff Weaver
Edgardo Alfonzo
Jorge Fabregas (loved the guy as kid, but he was pretty terrible, no?)
Jose Guillen
Shea Hillenbrand—I had so much hope for the guy, but he never put it together.
Light Up That Halo!
Awesome and important post
1) Luis Polonia: Decent stats, but has a more vile entity ever inhabited a baseball uniform? He was a greasy, stoop-shouldered, jailbait-chasing dwarf. And a bit of a dandy, too, with his jheri-curl and chains. Just gross.
2) Donnie Moore: Hate to piss on his grave and all, but he practically ruined my adolescence. He’s our Buckner.
3) Schofield: Such a horrendous hitter, he made people thankful for DiSarcina. I hate his stupid moonface.
by GrichManPoorMan on Mar 16, 2009 11:24 AM PDT reply actions
Oh, one other thing, to the OP… anybody who calls themselves an Angels fans and doesn’t like Downing needs psychoanalysis. Seriously.
by GrichManPoorMan on Mar 16, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Hit the “this bloke” tab on the original post.
by GrichManPoorMan on Mar 16, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ll send him a shrink referral or some #5 gear. Downing was THE MAN.
by Downing Rules on Mar 16, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, I do appreciate that now...
…but back then, I’d just arrived in Southern California from England, I was 12 years old, I didn’t really understand the game, and Downing, in his latter years, wasn’t what he had been in years previous. If he was going to be the face of the Angels I wanted him to be ‘the 2nd coming’, and really he was more the ‘soon to be departing’.
These days I know better. And like I said, it was a fairly irrational hatred.
I see red people
also, your boy Grich popped out feebly to end the infamous “Donnie Moore” game; and Douggie Decinces was first-pitch hacking popping out to shallow right just prior to Grich’s AB.
by Downing Rules on Mar 16, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
watching that game again recently, you cannot count how many amazing little tiny details contributed to the end result.
by Downing Rules on Mar 16, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Re: Polonia
has a more vile entity ever inhabited a baseball uniform?
Tony Phillips?
Angels fan since '67
Phillips, while an a%& hole off the field, made some contributions to the 1995 squad.
by Downing Rules on Mar 16, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Tony may of been crack-smokin
but he was also a badass.
Only reason why we got a run in the dismal one-game playoff with SEA was cuz of Tony. Homer.
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Mar 16, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Friendly SOB, too
Always cool to the media… good clubhouse guy. Tony was my kind of cretin.
by GrichManPoorMan on Mar 17, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it does...
If I get invited to some foreign country to be generously compensated playing a playground game – or even poorly compensated cleaning bathroom stalls – I learn the freakin’ language. As a gesture of solidarity. As a matter of practical convenience. To not do so demonstrates a basic and fundamental lack of intellectual curiosity. It’s Bush-like.
by GrichManPoorMan on Mar 17, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Schofields walk-off grand slam in 1986 makes him a made man.
If GA wasn't so lazy the Halos woulda won the 2008 WS by now.
Not our Buckner.
Buckner botched a ground ball.
Moore made a good pitch. It just didn’t work out for him.
here's a few...
Gary Gaetti definitely belongs on the list. He was absolutely awful after we gave him a big (back then) contract, but then found his stroke after we released him (on our dime).
Jim Edmonds. If he wasn’t such a jerk, the team wouldn’t have traded him and we’d have had a hall of fame-caliber center fielder over the last decade.
Guillen. He threatened Scioscia. ’nuff said.
I’d have to disagree with Bavasi’s nomination, however. He really made few bad moves as Angel GM. He locked up our core to reasonable contracts before it was in vogue to do that, and really laid the ground work for what would become a World Champion team.
How about that one time
That this guy wanted a trade…and specifically asked to be traded to the Angels…and Bavasi couldn’t get his shit together and get it done?
Mind you, this was 1997. As in a year before the big race.
Steroids schmeroids at that point, right?
Light Up That Halo!
He didn't lock up anyone.
The other part of Edmonds leaving is that the team simply couldn’t afford Vaughn, Edmonds, Salmon, Anderson, Erstad, AND Percival. Someone had to go, and we needed a second baseman.
But the big four there- Salmon, Erstad, Anderson, Percival- were all extended or signed by Stoneman in 2000/2001, not Bavasi. Bavasi’s moves included trading Chili Davis for a bag of crap, signing Mo Vaughn to crazy money, and generally being totally incapable of assembling an actual pitching staff, or building around the core group you spoke of.
~Till the Halo burns out...
all great points
Perhaps I was suffering from a little revisionist history there. I had completely forgot about that Chili Davis trade (maybe I was blocking it out). I remember that whole winter my dad and I bitched and complained about that trade as Chili Dawg was our favorite at the time. And now that I think about it, JT Snow for Allen Watson was another Bavasi move, right? Yikes. OK, I take it back, maybe he was our worst exec. But as a front office presence, did anyone do more to destroy this team than Jackie Autry?
I've never suffered any particular dislike of Jackie Autry.
I’ve also never understood why other people do. It is inconceivable to me that one anyone could ever have expected her to know how to manage a multi-million dollar enterprise like the Angels. People claim she kept the purse strings tight, but I seem to remember from a previous Moreno interview that the Angels were actually losing money for much of the nineties.
I get the impression from people on this board that they see her as some kind of cackling money grubbing witch, but I dunno.
Everytime I watch footage of the 2002 run, I can’t see this franchise-choking personage others seem to believe she was. All I can see is an old lady who is deliriously happy that her dead husband’s dream was finally going to come true. If she let Disney and the board of trustees run everything, well, I can’t really blame her. It’s not like she had any training or experience at being an executive.
Bavasi, on the other hand, was hired to do a very specific job, and he failed miserably at it for five years, then somehow got a ton of the credit when Bill Stoneman finally did what he couldn’t do.
Ironically, this allowed him to do the Angels the greatest favor he could. He gained the helm of the division rival Mariners, which right up until the point that he took command were a competitive, 90+ wins team every year, and turned them into the hideously mismanaged cellar-dwellers we know and love today. However, driving an opposing franchise into the ground through incompetence isn’t, in my mind, a reason to forgive his trespasses against us.
~Till the Halo burns out...
Yeah...
Georgia Frontiere looked like a little sweetheart, too, after winning XXXIV. You weren’t there at every game from 1977 to 1987 like my Grandparents were. They told me some horrible tales about the Palm Springs Bank Teller.
by Downing Rules on Mar 17, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
You don’t need my grandparents’ stories…enough to be found just in this thread right here:
http://www.halosheaven.com/2006/2/8/32353/36909
Blogging is FUN!
by Downing Rules on Mar 26, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
OK, in that post BHW blames her for not signing Joyner.
Again, he believes she was just too cheap, but I don’t see any information backing this up. He even admits that Joyner’s salary on the Royals was an ENORMOUS pay increase at the time.
Further, we know from payroll records that it’s not like she was doing what the Rays or Marlins were doing. According to USAToday’s database, in 1991 the Angels were 5th among MLB teams in total payroll at $31 million. In 1992, payroll increased to $33 million, but the Angels dropped in the overall rankings to 9th.
This isn’t surprising in retrospect. The Angels, among the top of baseball teams in attendance for most of the 80s, were losing ground in attendance compared to other franchises. Despite having nearly the same attendance in 1991 as 1990, they fell from 3rd to 6th among AL teams.
In other words, the other teams were starting to draw more fans, and were thus able to substantially increase their buying power, while the Angels were not.
These facts are why I find the claims of Jackie Autry being “cheap” to be dubious at best, and outright ridiculous at worst. The myth simply isn’t supported by the data. If you have stories that can be backed up, then by all means, I’d like to hear them.
~Till the Halo burns out...
I don’t have specific stories I can back it up with, ok. You win.
If you were there at the park day-in and day-out in the mid-80’s you would have understood (my grand-folks had season seats from 77 to 89). I certainly cannot remember all the EXACT reasons they were bitter with Jackie. I never witnessed it myself, as I was not an every single day fan due to my age and the lack of media coverage like we have nowadays.
No, she is not the worst owner ever in the history of baseball, she just sucked. And she was cheap, except when it came to eating in her luxury booth during the games. Trust me, and I am sure I am not the only one to believe that around here.
But, you have certainly taken it further than I would have: “cackling money grubbing witch” “franchise-choking personage” are not terms I would use about Jackie. Cheap and fat are two simple terms I could use.
Blogging is FUN!
by Downing Rules on Mar 26, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Really?
You don’t think “the worst affliction our front office ever knew” qualifies? Because you nominated her for that a few posts down. It got Rec’d twice.
How about “did anyone do more to destroy this team than Jackie Autry?” which is in the post I was responding to when I used those two terms. Point is I really don’t think I was exaggerating the vitriol people on the site have shown for her.
As far as her sucking as an owner, I can buy that. Like I said, it’s not very surprising that someone with her background was poor at managing an organization the size of the Angels. The cheap part just isn’t supported by the facts though. The Angels budget in the 90s shows a very clear pattern of following the attendance numbers, even after Disney took over. In fact, for at least the last half of their tenure, the Angels were actually LOSING money. Which is why they were so interested in selling the franchise to Arte. I’m not sure how being fat matters—it’s not like she was an athlete.
~Till the Halo burns out...
Second Gaetti
I wish he had found Jesus AFTER he left the Angels, ’cause it seemed like he hit the fastball a lot better when he was banging flight attendants and sucking down tallboys.
by GrichManPoorMan on Mar 17, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
meh
He had what…like 3 starts? He doesn’t deserve even a mention in Halo lore.
Furthermore ...
Guillen’s tantrum sidetracked the Halos playoff run in ‘04. Given the situation, though, I’d take an early playoff exit over mollycoddling a baby to reach the World Series.
by Downing Rules on Mar 16, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
mollycoddling.........lol....
A person who performs good Karma (deeds) is always held in high esteem
12/19/08 - Thank you KLJ for coming into my life.
by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 16, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Von Hayes
One of my all-time favorite quotes comes from Lenny Dykstra upon hearing the Phillies traded Hayes to Angels:
“We traded Von Hayes? That’s a great trade, who’d we get?”
After batting only .225 with 4 HRs, Hayes was released in August.
by SoCalWine on Mar 16, 2009 11:50 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
hahahaha...fucking Lenny...
what a badass…too bad he couldn’t stop getting hurt.
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Mar 16, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Lenny's got a carwash/auto service center out in Simi
I should go get my car washed…
Angels fan since '67
Lenny had a scandal in Simi
Apparently he sexually harassed one of his employees and now people in Simi call it Lenny Dykstra’s Grab Ass Car Wash.
I had a friend who had her Dodger tickets
stolen out of her glove box when it was getting detailed there. I felt bad for her but they were Dodger tickets so not that bad.
A few...
Jose Guillen… I used to have his red numbered shirt… What a waste of money…
Scott Shitenweis
Maurice Vaughn
Dallas Mcpherson – I hated this guy. All I heard was he was the next “it” and “it” didn’t happen… I hope I don’t end up hating Wood the same way.
Ken Bottenfield, Ken Hill, Bartolo Colon, any other fatty that always seemed to be pitching their slow ass game on a 1:05 Sunday hot as hell day game. 4-5 hours in the sun for these fools was just torture.
Steve Finley, GMJ, Jeff Weaver… Why did we bring these dudes in?
Oh… and 1 more. Vlad Guerrero. His best year as a halo wouldn’t even equal his worst year in Montreal, including when he hit 40hr while having a bad back and missing half the season to the DL. I loved this dude in Montreal, I wanted him more than any player ever. We got him, and it took no time at all to start to hate him.
whoa whoa whoa
Last year was his first “down year” as an Angel, and he was still the best hitter on the team. Anyone who knows anything about Angel stadium knew his home run totals would be down once he got here. I don’t know if you’re just trying to stir the pot, but his nomination is downright silly.
I’m awake…lol…It is hard to say what any of his worst seasons in Montreal would be..Obviously 2003- b/c he was injured,had he not of been,who knows what type of numbers he may of got..He still had a good year then,and reached the 25 hr total…
I think he has had many great years in Anaheim,obviously last years down years due to injuries and what not was a little dissapointing missing 100 rbi..but he has has a solid 5 years here nothing to be ashamed about…
uh... okay...
you don’t even hate on Vlad for any of the right reasons…
by Rev Halofan on Mar 16, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
like these proper reasons: Fathering too many children, having one leg longer than the other, and for being too dang nice and smiling too much.
by Downing Rules on Mar 16, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
you did forget not bothering to learn to speak english…been here how long Vlad? Has a permanent green card…shouldn’t english be part of that process?
I’m still trying to figure out if Zookeeper was making a joke or serious?
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. -- Al Gallagher
I've heard from a few sources
Rev one of them in his post-2005-clinching celebration-post—that Vlad actually does speak English but chooses not to in front of the press…remember when Santana did this in 2007, when he got tired of the press “misconstruing” his statements and clammed up for a month—speaking only through interpreter Jose Mota?
Note, too, that this spring I haven’t seen the familiar “he said through an interpreter” after Vlad’s quotes…I wonder if he’s starting to open up?
Light Up That Halo!
He speaks English
But not comfortably to speak to press and apparently he’s uber shy, so he uses that to duck out.
English...
Figuring he played in Montreal, a french and english speaking city… you really cant blame the guy if he didn’t quite learn English. French is their main language. And, I also heard on several occasions that he does speak English, but not great, and so that is probably why he uses the interpreter just to not say anything wrong.
… And no, I wasn’t being sarcastic. I dislike having Vlad on our team now. Everyone mentions No Hustle Garrett not showing emotion, but I am thoroughly tired of seeing Vlad swing at crap to strike out, then walk off like he doesn’t give a shit. At least get upset or something.
umm
well the you must LOVE milton bradley
Watching the Halos from Princeton University. The random Halo fan in a sea of Bosux and Skankee fans.
by princeton11loveshalos on Mar 16, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
BOOOO!
Zookeeper, you suck!
Peanuts...Get your Overpriced Peanuts!
by Angel Hawker on Mar 18, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
BTW… I want it made known that I didn’t mention language as an issue. And my reply about language was actually in support of him. If I suck for the other listed crap, fine by me.
I could care less about the language argument...
I think you suck because you don’t like Vlad.
Being as Angel fan and not liking Vlad is like being a Christian and not liking Jesus.
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by Angel Hawker on Mar 18, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice...
The way I got trashed here for not liking Jesus Guerrero, I hope to hell he is number 1 on the all time list. Funny that I listed the previous number 1, Salmon as my favorite and got a negative comment too. Probably why I stay away from this place.
Also, when talking shit… please use the correct phrases… “I couldn’t care less”. It’s like calling someone stupid and spelling a word wrong in the sentence when saying it.
"I couldn't care less" phrase
Thanks for enlightening us on the English language. Kudos to you for all that cultural capital of yours! lol
Read Ruke #10
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#10: Embrace debate with a thick skin.
You come here talking shit about Vlad and get all Oprah crying Diva bitch on us for defending VLAD?
You go girl…
Dude, chill.
I’ve always interpreted it as sarcasm. As in,
“I could care less… if I really, really tried hard.”
Angels fan since '67
I know a lot of people who do not speak English very well and it has very little meaning on the kind of person they are inside.
by Downing Rules on Mar 16, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
blah blah blah...
shut your trap with the whole live here speak the language shit. Save the politics for some other blog. As long as that guy is smacking 25 plus homers out of the stadium he can speak pig latin for all i care….
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Mar 16, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I-ay eak-spay Ig-pay Atin-Lay
Ut-bay I-ay ant-cay it-hay enty-tway ive-fay omers-hay.
Angels fan since '67
You forgot about all that food him mom cooks for the team
and any other dominican that happens to visit the big A
If GA wasn't so lazy the Halos woulda won the 2008 WS by now.
Not to mention not remembering those years very well either…Where does it say that players like he and Santana have to learn English ??? Just because you want them to does not mean they have to.. It is entirly possible that he may not speak it well,or is not comfortable doing so to the press,as Guerrero has said he does not want to be one of those players that is in the media all the time..
I won’t bother with the strikeout issue… I don’t want to be ribbed by Downing again for being Vladdies mommy !!!!
$51 million for 1 good season
Bartolo Colon wasn’t Aaron Sele, but it’s close. He was signed in 2004 to a 4-year deal worth $51 million. He had one very good season – 2005, but even then was useless in the post-season. But for 2004, 2006 and 2007 he had an ERA somewhere between 5.01 and 6.34. We have to pay $14 million a year for a 5.00+ ERA pitcher? Most minor league starters will do that for you for the MLB minimum. Aside from 2005, Colon was a total bust.
First Angels Home Game: September 04, 1969
Two Words
DAVE PARKER
Hands down the worst output from the biggest name at the cost of Dante Bichette just before he was quite useful.
At least Mo Vaughn put up some gaudy numbers amidst the clubhouse cancer. At least Steve Finley did not require us to trade anyone.
Other than that BILL BAVASI was the worst affliction our front office ever knew.
yeah but Dave Parker might have been the fattest baseball player ever with an actual career...
Thats got to count for something, right?
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Mar 16, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Hate...
Chone Figgins. I can’t stand the guy for Limey’s reasons 2,3, and 5. Ever since 04 when he moved into the starting line up permanently in his super sub role. He was horrific in the playoffs that year (bat and field) and I had it out for him since then. I always thought he was overvalued by Scox, and pray every offseason or trade deadline that he gets shipped out…
Outfielders For Sale! This weeks special...GMJ - see Tony for details!
I don't think he belongs on this list, but...
I’m surprise nobody’s mentioned Alex Johnson.
Angels fan since '67
Not enough old-timers around
BTW, the “Once They Were Angels” book has a very interesting chapter on Johnson, including lots of recent quotes from him. A welcome addition to the literature.
Carrying a gun into the clubhouse
Alex Johnson ranks up there. (What would happen if Jose Guillen had a gun??)
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes
by johnnyangel101 on Mar 16, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
He'd have shot himself in the foot
I see red people
by The Limey on Mar 17, 2009 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
And.... go!
Garret Anderson: For never learning the “dont step in the bucket” fundamental we all learned in little league. Could never hit the outside slider. Always looked sleepy. He always seemed to pad his stats in non-clutch games, therefore giving GA supporters something to stand by when people voiced any disapproval. HIS DEFENSE.
Ben Weber: The man was just too ugly.
Vladimir Guerrero: Not hate, but some slight annoyances. His snub to Alex Rios when he won the Home Run Derby pissed me off. Go shake the mans hand, go be a good sport Vlad. Don’t just celebrate with your friends, you dick. Also, stop pretending that you don’t speak english just so you can avoid signing autographs for little kids, what the hell is that all about? And, for the love of god, use a goddamn condom. But I still love you!
Scot Shields: Has this man ever held the lead in a big game? How many times do I have to see him blow a lead to the Red Sox? He is the destroyer of lesser teams, yet throws up BP fastballs in close, important games. So overrated its insane.
Chone Figgins: For several reasons, but mostly that stupid giant patch he wears on his arm at all times.
Jim Edmonds: If baseball awarded runs for the best pose struck in outfield the Angels would never lose a game. That piece of crap would always time fly balls to make it look like a WebGem every catch. He was a douche bag drama queen and everyone knows it.
Mark Texieria: Fuck you.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
by PhiSlamma on Mar 16, 2009 3:27 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
it was was her whore of a wife who wanted Nyy
Tex went to the dark side.
by vlad IS my man on Mar 16, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
A fair point, but...
…he did give an interview about how he’d grown up with a Mattingly poster on his wall, so I suspect it was not all her doing and secondly, if it was, it’s still his fault for marrying the bitch.
I see red people
"Always seemed to pad his stats in non-clutch games"
Yeah, that World Series winning double was SO unclutch. Also, GA’s defense was quite good, especially in left field, during his prime.
~Till the Halo burns out...
by Zu Long on Mar 16, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
he looked lazy doing it
Watching the Halos from Princeton University. The random Halo fan in a sea of Bosux and Skankee fans.
by princeton11loveshalos on Mar 16, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
If GA wasn't so lazy
That would have been a triple.
Light Up That Halo!
by Clutch on Mar 16, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
inside the park homer
making the two men on in the 9th situation less of a pepto bismol moment
Phys: Well, Coon doesn't have a lot of power but he's a good bunter
Coon: F$%# That!
Thanks Zu
by halofan4life on Mar 16, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
he would have given us
pepto bismol, and pitched the ninth while playing left field
Go gettem next year, what have we got to lose--Frankie?
by AnaheimHalos61 on Mar 17, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Rec'd for the Teixiera comment
That alone is priceless and sums up well what I’ve been thinking towards him at various points this offseason…just look at him on Yahoo! smug in his new Skanks uni…
Light Up That Halo!
I like the Ben Weber comment...
Not only was he ugly, but he had that herky-jerky windup.
by Downing Rules on Mar 16, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
He also was an awesome reliever from 2001-2003. There are too many people
that are both hideously ugly AND did jack in an Angels uniform for Ben to be getting this much grief.
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!
But... the windup was awesome.
That was easily the coolest thing about him. He once explained his methodology for it in a TV interview (think it was Best Damned Sports Show Period). The take away line was:
“First, you have to get pissed.”
A guy who pitches by working himself into a rage every time he throws? That’s great stuff.
~Till the Halo burns out...
Yes, it was BDSSP. And Ben was hilarious.
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!
The BEST thing about Ben Weber...
is that he sprayed people with Champagne during the celebrations. That’s freakin’ cool! That’s what I’d be doing, too.
by Downing Rules on Mar 17, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
people being FANS...
duh, on my part…
he came out of the clubhouse onto the field and sprayed fans in the stands. I’d have loved to have a taste of Champagne from the clubhouse…
by Downing Rules on Mar 17, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Angry windup, played great during the championship run, and
a man of the people. More than enough to take him off any worst angel list.
~Till the Halo burns out...
Save the Spiezio homerun....Greatest moment in Angel history involves GA, Figgy, Bonds
and Joe buck’s idiotic commentary about how Figgy’s speed caused Bonds to boot the ball in left field. I can watch lazy GA bloop it in to left while bonds bends over forever! That alone makes GA and Figgy untouchable.
If GA wasn't so lazy the Halos woulda won the 2008 WS by now.
hahaha...I disagree on almost all of this...
but damn if it didnt make me laugh.
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Mar 16, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
A $24 million bust
After the 2001 season it was clear that the Angels had a great offense, but was sorely lacking in starting pitching. The answer: Sign Aaron Sele for 3 years averaging $8 million a year. What did we get for those 3 years? 24 wins 414 IP, 488 hits, 158 walks, 1.56 HWIP, 54 HRs allowed and an ERA worse than the league average in each of those 3 years. Any MLB team can find a starter in their minors who will produce those numbers for the MLB minimum salary. Sele was an absolute waste of $24 million.
First Angels Home Game: September 04, 1969
Hands down...
Jackie Autry and Rich Brown. The bean counter and her stooge lawyer ran this team into the ground. Together, they turned a big market team into a small market team. These two clowns had the brilliant idea of having two GMs at the same time (Dan O’Brien & Whitey Herzog). And Herzog was allowed to run the team from his home in Kansas City!
by njhalofan on Mar 16, 2009 4:17 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The Master of Un-Clutch
K-Rod.
Big game on the line? He blew it (see: any playoff game against the Sawx)
And your stupid celebrating.. get off it. seriously. you’re not that good.
Kotch would've had that.
I was going to write this, but you have to give him grace for the 2002 playoff run alone.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
re-write -
Big game on the line after 2002? He blew it.
Kotch would've had that.
by howiestheman on Mar 16, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So what? 2002 is enough. I'm a fan over 30 years and I got only one ring.
Witt, Abbott and Ryan couldn’t get it done before 2002. Who care’s?
If GA wasn't so lazy the Halos woulda won the 2008 WS by now.
Actually he also picked up 3 saves with a 1.59 ERA in 2005.
It’s really only been the Red Sox who’ve had his number.
~Till the Halo burns out...
I'll still forgive him for 2002
And he wasn’t all THAT bad after anyway.
On a side note, did anyone see him today in the WBC? He was absolutely filthy.
replacement level analysis
53 players and front office staff named so far, maybe we will hit 100...
(Mostly) predictable early contenders:
Mo Vaughn
Scott Schoenweis
Bill Bavasi
Jose Guillen
Shea Hillenbrand
Dave Parker
Jim Edmonds
Kent Bottenfield
Mark Teixeira
Edgardo Alfonzo
Other multiple vote-getters include Vlad and Chone…
I’ll give it a day or so, tally up the nominations and then put it to the vote…
I see red people
Let's hit 100
We need some old-schoolers to jump in with their hated Angel players from 60s and 70s.
Ask and ye shall receive. He is a collection of some of the worst through the 70's (pitchers only )
Andy Hassler (as a starter…he later redeemed himself as a reliever)
Dick Drago (Arson Squad)
Balor Moore (Arson Squad)
Fred Kuhaulua (Arson Squad)
Mike Barlow (Arson Squad…with a match)
Dyar Miller (Arson Squad)
Wayne Simpson
Ralph Botting
Jim Barr (Arson Squad)
Too many to name
Dave Sells
Dick Lange
Lloyd Allen
Chuck Hockenberry
(pause for breath)
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes
by johnnyangel101 on Mar 16, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Dick Drago?
what a bummer name…
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Mar 16, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Dick Drago
That name made me laugh. Sounds like an old-school wrestling jobber back when the WWE was the WWF
by stolenbases on Mar 16, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Im changing my screename
DragoPornoStache:
the dude looks like freakin RON JEREMY!
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Mar 17, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Dick Pole...
this pitcher had the best porn name of all time!
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by Angel Hawker on Mar 18, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
ugggg way to stirr up bad memories
Mo Vaughn
Tim Felcher
D Easley
Rob Wilfong
Dante Bichette
BUT not only Worst player but worst nose. Its it was close but
Gary Gaetti
Jorge Fabregas
words cannot explain my hate for flabby gas. But when i saw 4 or 5 games a year they knew it and took him off the bench just to strike out 3 or 4 times a game.
Jorge was a super model compared to
Pep Harris
Andy Etchebarren
John Candelaria
(more?)
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes
by johnnyangel101 on Mar 16, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Lackey looks like a retarded donkey with a severe case of the downs.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
Owwwwch! C’mon man, go easy on Big John from Abilene.
I would pay at least $100 to see you make that statement right to his face! Any other takers?
by Downing Rules on Mar 17, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
And I am sure Wonder Dog would be next in line to pound you since his child is afflicted with that condition that you mentioned.
by Downing Rules on Mar 17, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
K-ROD
Most overrated player in baseball…
(I can’t wait to watch him suck balls/get injured in NYC and lose his job to JJ)
Let the hatred commence.
Top 10 worst angels
Number one is easy. It is Lucifer, of course. Duh.
Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.
by vladtheimpaler on Mar 17, 2009 3:15 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
haha
good one
Go gettem next year, what have we got to lose--Frankie?
by AnaheimHalos61 on Mar 17, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Love this topic...
I’m trying to keep it limited to guys that I actually disliked (rational or otherwise) and not just default to guys that played poorly for the Halos…
Players that made me cringe:
Luis Sanchez (early 80’s reliever)
Rob Wilfong (better than I remember, but just didn’t instill confidence at the plate)
Jim Scully
Oh yeah...
Darin Erstad. I know I rag on him a lot, and I admit that it is partly irrational. No question.
I was excited by him – bit time – in 1997, 1998 and through 2000. He really seemed to figure it out then. He had solid power numbers for a CF’er and looked to be a .300 hitter with walks. Unfortunately, he never did that again and lost the walks. And lost the power – only to become a great fielding CF’er who grounded out 4-3 over 750 times. Crazy…
Jim Scully
"only to become a great fielding CF’er who grounded out 4-3 over 750 times."
kinda like GMJ
Kotch would've had that.
by howiestheman on Mar 17, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
The cool thing about that is...
it isn’t hyperbole.
Ersty is at 773 outs in his career to 2nd base. Thanks BB-Ref Play Index!!!
Jim Scully
That was so sad to watch...
After spraying balls all over the field with regularity his first few years, it was so hard to watch him roll over one ball after an another the rest of his time here… I really thought he was going to be our own Jeter/Biggio type.
All-Star game...
I remember an all-star game where GA hit into the 4-3 four times in 1 night. Way to go Garrett… But he was still an all-star. Better than a lot of dudes can claim
Not to mention that he won both the Home Run Derby and All Star Game MVP in 2003
~Till the Halo burns out...
Mine
Scott Schoeneweis – Nobody else is close.
Joe Magrane and Gary Gaetti.
Gaetti played like Bob’s Big Boy.
Magrane simple picked up a paycheck.
since 1961
Got Gooby?
Mark Gubicza FOR THE WIN!
Gets sent with Bovee to Anaheim for Chili Davis.
The Angels pay him $1.6 million dollars for exactly 4-2/3 innings of work, surrenduring 2HR’s, 3BB’s, 13 EARNED RUNS and a 25.07ERA!
Then, as an added bonus, he is now a color commentator for the Angels. We have to listen to his diatribe on TV. Give me some Phys and Hud, for cryin’ out loud already!
And we whine about Gary Matthews?
I have a hard time blaiming Gubicza for what could only be called
a ridiculously stupid Bavasi decision. Gubicza was just the name on the piece of paper he signed. It’s not like he could hide the fact that he had a history of injury trouble dating back to 1990, after which he had never been the same, or that he was well to the wrong side of 30.
I agree with you about him in the broadcasting booth though.
~Till the Halo burns out...
Another
J.C. Romero.
Gave up Alexi Casilla for Romero to come stink it up and lose a few games for the Halos—posting a measly ERA + of 68—only to bounce back the next year with Bahstin and Philadelphia, posting the best ERA + of his career so far at 243.
Granted, Casilla was part of the MI glut and probably had to be traded one way or the other, but J.C. Romero? Seriously? I mean he was marginally good at the time, but seriously?
F—er.
Light Up That Halo!
by Clutch on Mar 17, 2009 1:17 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Good call.
I forgot that guy. He was a total waste of space that season. Plus Casilla went on to become a pretty good prospect. Seems like we could have gotten more for him. I still say that of the three good 2B prospects we had at that time (Callaspo, Casilla, Kendrick) we easily kept the right one.
~Till the Halo burns out...
Yeah, but...
Casilla is young and might turn out to be more useful than it seems now. He is only 23.
I remember thinking at the time that he should have netted more than Romero.
Jim Scully
Kendrick is only one year older and has been the superior player at every level for their entire careers.
We picked the right one.
~Till the Halo burns out...
um if he stayed healthy
Watching the Halos from Princeton University. The random Halo fan in a sea of Bosux and Skankee fans.
by princeton11loveshalos on Mar 17, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree it is the right choice -
but Casilla could still be a solid regular contributor – that’s all I’m saying. I’d have kept him over Aybar…
Jim Scully
I agree
But as you said, Stoneman—he of the Jose Guillen for Juan Rivera and Maicer Izturis genius—should have been able to net more for Casilla than a marginal reliever. Anyway. I suppose Romero was decent enough at the time, and I didn’t mind him quite so much until I finally took a look at his stat line maybe in August 2006, but hindsight is, of course, 20/20.
Light Up That Halo!
I remember Romero's first regular-season appearance
He came in to pitch in a bases-loaded, no out situation, and got out of it. That was in April. It was the high point of his season — all downhill from there.
his only “Panther of the Game” on Halos Heaven – the 2006 opener.
by Rev Halofan on Mar 17, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Man...
I really thought he was gonna be great, I loved that move when I heard about it. And opening day, he confirmed it for me… Then he just died up there or something… what a let down.
Well, to be fair, we were all pretty sure he wasn't going to keep THAT up.
He really was a perfectly good 5th starter though. The fact that he was being paid more than 5th starter money was just a tradeoff for being able to pay Ervin $500,000
~Till the Halo burns out...
More on Steve Finley
Signed for a two year contract. (05-06).
He played so poorly the entire 05 season that he eventually found a spot warming the bench. While Figgins was forced to move to CF
Stoneman was forced to scrap him after the season and traded him to SF for this other top ten nominee. Remember a bad Steve brought us the post-shark jumping version of Fonzie.
Steve’s early departure, left the Angels unprepared. The udjustment sent an unstable Erstad to fill in center. His inventable injuries made it hard to fill in at 1B when Kotch came down with his namesake Mononucleosis.
Too top it all off after a year of Steve and another of Erstad/fFggins. Stoneman compounds the mistake by giving a 5 year 50 million deal to HGH GMJ to fill in Center. The blame for this move mostly falls on Stoneman but Finley deserves at least a little of the blame.
Even Worse
I don’t recall any benching – Finley STARTED for us in the ALCS against the White Sox until the final game. Terrible, terrible terrible to have let him play out his contract as a starter with the club although we definitely learned from it and benched Matthews and shitcanned Katrina Hillebrand.
Yeah -
and that was at the expense of Kotchman – who was nails in the 2nd half of 2005. He had a big double in the last game, if I recall correctly.
Jim Scully
Mark Teixeira
We traded away a truly homegrown favorite (Casey Kotchman) and I just didn’t feel the team played as well after the trade. You knew Teix would put up numbers so he’d get a big contract somewhere, but I never felt like he was a genuine player or human being. I didn’t like him with Texas, I tried to like him as an Angel but couldn’t, and I’m sure I won’t like him as a Yankee. I, for one, was happy that we weren’t able to retain that prick.
Wow!
That is some serious hatred. I mean yeah, I think it sucks he ditched us, but to say he’s not a geniune human being? LOL!
Crazy Insane Hatred! Love it!
Peanuts...Get your Overpriced Peanuts!
by Angel Hawker on Mar 21, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
adam kennedy
now, before getting blasted, let me explain.
during the 2002 season in a game against the a’s, ak popped up with 2 outs. he did not run hard. he LOLLYGAGGED! and he was only on 1st when tejada dropped the ball (had he hustled, he would have made 2nd). next hitter singled. would have scored a run. good guys loose 1-0. HATE!
he did try to win me over with 3 homers on my birthday with me in the stadium to go to the world series, but the damage was done.
Good God...
I think matching Babe Ruth in HR output in a single playoff game might just redeem you from not running out a grounder in a regular season game against the powerhouse regular season mega-win streak 2002 A’s.
Hitting the 3 homers on YOUR birthday was the icing on the cake proving that you should give him a pass.
Let it go, brother.
by Downing Rules on Mar 23, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I was at that game!
I totally remember that. Tejada made a diving catch with the bases loaded as well. And he hit a HR i think. Such a frustrating game.
That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey
by anaheim angels on Mar 28, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
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