Angels Pitching Injuries Causing Headaches
First the bad news: The news about the Angels’ pitching staff was lousy this week. John Lackey has been shut down with inflammation near his elbow. Ervin Santana has a small tear in an elbow ligament. Jered Weaver and Joe Saunders are suddenly the pitching staff and each of them got off to a late start in spring with their own offseason soreness.
Okay, now some good news: Veteran Kelvim Escobar heard words like "career-threatening" last summer, so the fact that he is throwing in the mid-90s and slated for a late-April return to the rotation after shoulder surgery is nothing short of miraculous.
And in Filler news: Righty Dustin Moseley has had a good Spring and Nick Adenhart is looking far superior in Arizona than he did in a short turn in the spotlight early last season in L.A. of Anaheim. Journeyman Shane Loux is on the bubble and easily the rotation arm most likely to head to Triple A should another arm join the staff in April.
The season will open with a less than fearsome front five:
Saunders, Weaver, Moseley, Adenhart and Loux.
Yeah, that is just not a good rotation. You have a contact pitcher likely to regress, a fastballer who has had flyball funks pop up amidst otherwise great seasons, a 6th starter who hangs curveballs suddenly the 3rd man, a 4th starter who melted in the big league spotlight last season and a 5th starter who might not make some Triple-A team rotations.
Basically, the opening day staff is the Worse Case Scenario.
Worse Case Scenario:
The opening day staff is the rotation for the majority of the season. Even at their best, healthy and producing, we have a league average staff.
So the Angels start 2009 with the Worse Case Scenario.
Not as Bad, but Still Bad Scenario:
Escobar returns in late April and to his former glory as Loux returns to the minors. The staff of S-W-E-M-A has some good games but generally pitches league average.
Okay Enough Scenario:
The S-W-E-M-A staff puts together a good season, one of them makes the all-star team and performing above expectations they have an ERA around 4.60
Kind of Good Scenario:
Either Santana or Lackey are lost for 2009 but the other rebounds, joining Saunders, Weaver, Escobar and Moseley, who all come close to repeating their best seasons in a winnable division.
Much Better Scenario:
One of Santana or Lackey is back by May 15 and the other returns after the All Star break, both operating on their 2008 superiority.
Best Case Scenario:
Escobar is Escobar and joins the rotation in late April, Lackey’s inflammation is soothed and he returns the 2nd week of May and is followed by a rehabbed and sharpened Santana before the season hits the 1/3 mark.
So the best-case scenario sees the Angels opening the season with the worst rotation in the division for 1/6 the season and a middle of the pack Top Five until at least1/3 of the season has passed.
Please welcome your 2009 Los Angeles Angels of Aspirinaheim, a Southern California baseball fan’s biggest headache.
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loux and moseley are out of options so let loux...
audition for another team before we dfa (designate for assignment) him. hopefully moseley can be kept around as a long reliever until eventually we have to dfa/ trade him.
by thejd on Mar 27, 2009 7:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
if we can play .500 ball with this patch work rotation that...
would be pretty respectable until we pitch at full-strength.
by thejd on Mar 27, 2009 7:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we will start 6-14
Then get everyone back for a 2002 repeat.
Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.
by vladtheimpaler on Mar 27, 2009 8:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Where is Anthony Ortega?
Ervin Santana kicked ass straight from AA ball so why cant Ortega get the shot? That loux was pretty scary today, if he does that twice this season, Im going to be calling for an Ortega promotion to the Show ala Ervin “El Meneo” Santana.
I actaully have faith in Moseley and Adenhart. I think they will have solid outings and with our killer offense we sould be hard to beat. But the 5th spot Im not to sure about, I hope Loux pulls it together and pitches his heart out.
Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by acuda27 on Mar 27, 2009 8:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good point.
Ortega was mentioned for consideration for the 5th spot a month ago. He seems to have dropped off the radar screen in recent weeks.
by sothball on Mar 27, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is hurt. has not pitched this spring, wore out his arm in Winterball, will be in extended Spring training in April…
by Rev Halofan on Mar 27, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A couple days late, but thanks Rev....I missed that news too
Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by acuda27 on Mar 30, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am hoping our bats come alive,,,
in a big way to soften the blow to the rotation. I think Adenhart and Moseley have showed enough promise in the preseason that I have faith they will pitch adequately for at least a short while.
Also, wouldn’t this be a good time to maybe trade for a fifth starter who would quickly become our third starter? I know if everyone gets healthy then we would have six starters but why not send one of them to the bullpen. After all, its a contract year for Lackey and we might be losing him soon anyways.
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Mar 27, 2009 9:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I bet the view will be to wait until the severity of the injuries to Lackey and Santana are known.
If team management believes either one will miss a significant amount of he season, then I’d expect they will try to bring in another started.
If a starter is needed, I think management is more inclined to trading middle infielders/catchers over signing free agents at this time.
by sothball on Mar 27, 2009 9:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As I've said before
Just give Pedro Martinez the 5 million he wants. Dude’s command was sharp in the WBC.
I think he’s got one more big year in him, like Blyleven in 1989.
by RallyMonkey5 on Mar 27, 2009 11:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
S'ok
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090327&content_id=4079240&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Douche guy is out too. Take that A’s pitching staff!
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
by PhiSlamma on Mar 28, 2009 12:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
but
that probably just helps the Rangers…
by Rev Halofan on Mar 28, 2009 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are still a wee bit away
but scary still. Their problem is not in the division but they falter badly against teams from the East Coast and AL Central who have good pitching.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
by PhiSlamma on Mar 28, 2009 2:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And we wont with Shane Loux throwing against the Yanks
or worse…BoSUX at Fenway??
I think we all know its going to be a bumpy road for the first couple of months. AND if its not a bumpy road…well…it just shows how awesome we are.
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Mar 28, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Loux wouldn't be going to SLC
He is out of options, as is Moseley. Unless Loux shows a complete meltdown from the very good beginning he showed this Spring, I would expect Adenhart to go to SLC and let Loux have a few starts.
Assume that Loux winds up being like Moseley last year, going about 5 IP before being yanked: We have enough depth in the bullpen to deal with this once every 5th day or so. The offense likewise should be more productive than the one in early 2008, which means more latitude for runs allowed to the other team in those games. Loux could manage 5 IP a start and wind up 3-2 in his first 5 or 6 starts, and that would be OK for a #5.
Besides, this might be like Longoria—if the Angels wait until some date in the season, like June, to call up Adenhart (if he’s needed at that point), it saves them one year of eligibility for free agency. All the more reason to retain Loux and return Adenhart to SLC, even if only for a few weeks.
by George Kaplan on Mar 28, 2009 5:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mea culpa
I was assured there would be no math skills required on this site, however…
If Lackey is on the DL with Santana and Escobar, then it figures Adenhart AND Loux will be in the rotation.
Keep in mind, Loux has had a very good spring aside from that last game. Let’s see how he does on the next start.
by George Kaplan on Mar 28, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda....
It’s water under the bridge now, but CC would sure look good in Angel red…..
I’m sure Lackey’s injury is not serious, so I expect he’ll be back. I’m concerned most about Ervin’s injury, Saunder’s inability to repeat anything close to last years outstanding results, and our ability to survive a starting five that needs to rely on Moseley and Loux.
Keep Adenhart as I’d rather have him learn in the bigs instead of spending more time in SLC, and make a run at getting Peavey now.
by mustard_man on Mar 28, 2009 7:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember...we were still toying with Teix by the time CC got signed.
I think we were interested but we wanted an answer from Teix/Boras before we pursued CC. Yanks swept him up before we had a chance.
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Mar 28, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sabathia
It’s water under the bridge now, but CC would sure look good in Angel red…..
So would A-Rod and a lot of other players, but the fact remains the Angels would never be players in a contract bidding war in which one team bids seven guaranteed seasons.
I know Sabathia kept the Yankees waiting, hoping for an offer from another (West Coast) club, but no other team was going to go six years and an option, much less seven years. The Yankees intentionally made a ridiculous offer so they would have that question mark sewn up and could move on to other personnel issues.
Maybe Sabathia will win his first post-season game when he wears Yankee pinstripes, ending the ofer-streak he has from his years with Cleveland and Milwaukee. Of course, the Yankees need to get there in the first place, and they are no lock to play ball in October.
by George Kaplan on Mar 28, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this feels like a year we will miss the playoffs
just a feeling.
good thing we’re not developing wood in such a year so we can bounce back in 2010…
by ihearhowie2.0 on Mar 28, 2009 8:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I would agree
except the rest of the division looks pretty crummy, too
- A’s have improved offense, but only marginally. Their rotation isn’t great.
- Mariners are in the first year of a turnaround, and the best they can hope for is something around .500.
- Rangers can’t pitch.
Witty .sig goes here.
by scareduck on Mar 28, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Loux will return to the minors
but won’t he be on another team because he’ll have to clear waivers?
Witty .sig goes here.
by scareduck on Mar 28, 2009 11:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
actually that is plausible
A lot of teams have their 40-Man rosters firmly set in April and pass on otherwise intelligent claims as they are sticking to the team they have already assembled.
by Rev Halofan on Mar 28, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At the risk of proving my screenname true.
isn’t that assessment of our situation pessimistic? I had understood that Ervin could be back by early to mid May, and that Lackey, while not going to be starting opening day, could be with us by mid-April.
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!
by TheOptimist on Mar 28, 2009 12:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It might be calling the glass half full
when it is empty…
by Rev Halofan on Mar 28, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but if you're gonna call it the best case scenario
shouldn’t it actually BE the best case scenario? :-P
~Till the Halo burns out...
by Zu Long on Mar 28, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OKAY OKAY
BEST CASE SCENARIO:
Walter Johnson rises form the dead and joins a revitalized Mike Witt, Nolan Ryan, Kelvim Escobar and 100% healthy John Lackey with Ervin Santana as the closer.
by Rev Halofan on Mar 28, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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