Yankees Need a 3B - But Have Nothing to Offer the Angels
by Rev Halofan on Mar 6, 2009 2:41 AM PST
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Upon hearing the news that Alex Rodriguez would be out until mid-May, it dawned on me that trading Chone Figgins to the Yankees was a no-brainer - it frees up room for Brandon Wood to get everyday at-bats as the everyday Third Baseman for the Angels, it is the last year of Figgy's contract and his $6 Million salary is a pittance to the Yanks.
If Wood goes down swinging, we have Maicer Izturis and one could even imagine Sean Rodriguez getting his feet wet by keeping his glove warm at the hot corner.
But a quick look at the current Yankee roster reveals, well, an old, overpaid, lousy team with a few Cooperstown Confidentials shuffling about a combination old folks home / romper room.
Check out their DILAPIDATED LOTTERY WINNERS REC ROOM of a roster.
They don't have a starting pitcher they could trade who is better or more dependable than Joe Saunders except Phil Hughes or Joba Chamberlain and they are just not trading Joba the Drunk and the Hughes upside would force Brian Cashman to order Derek Jeter to 3B before he trades Baby Huey.
They don't have a relief pitcher better than Scot Shields/ Jose Arredondo... I am thinking Edwar Ramirez might be a hair better than Kevin Jepsen... really... that ain't much...
We have a logjam in the outfield and they have an overpriced, aging Johnny Damon and Hideki Matsui in the outfield, oh and Melky Cabrera... I will take my chances with Gary Matthews and Reggie Willits, not to mention Torii Hunter, Juan Rivera and Vladimir Guerrero. I know I am missing one guy... come to think of it we just got their best available outfielder for $11 Million per season less and did not have to trade anything for him or give up a draft pick... Abreu... Bobby Abreu, yeah, that's the guy.
We are so deep in infielders it isn't even up for discussion. And it is a league minimum infield if Figgins is absent.
So the goal here is to put together a trade of Chone Figgins, Jeff Mathis, Dustin Mosely and Kevin Jepsen to the Yankees for someone who we could then flip to another team. Assume the Yankees pick up salary. Who is the player on the OTHER team we want and who do we get from the Yankees to satisfy that team's need? You tell me...
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Figgins for Teix, straight up!!!
oh wait Teix is overpaid… don’t need him… Anyway we have Morales, Q, and Sandoval…. oh yeah and Rivera… what a log jam we have there too….
Show 'em your a panther... Show 'em what you can do....
by stuck in Romania on Mar 6, 2009 3:05 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Sandoval?
I am laughing
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
by hauldog on Mar 6, 2009 9:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he actually got some playing time yesterday for Mexico at 1B
Show 'em your a panther... Show 'em what you can do....
by stuck in Romania on Mar 6, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
From his interview with Halosheaven’s rghan:
I’m also playing some first base nowadays, which makes it more fun for me – working at all of those positions, I just show up at the stadium and not know where I’m going to be at.
by Downing Rules on Mar 6, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nate McClouth comes to mind as someone we want.
I have no idea how we convince the Pirates to part with him. Or where he plays. But he is awesome.
~Till the Halo burns out...
by Zu Long on Mar 6, 2009 3:15 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
You want someone who is a good fielder though. Nate is awful in CF.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Mar 6, 2009 4:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Here goes
WTF let’s dream big!
Figgins / Napoli for Hughes/Ramirez and Austin Jackson
Hughes/Adenhart/Jackson to TOR for Halladay
Never gonna happen but you could argue it helps the Yanks now with a 3B and a C if Posada can’t go.
TOR gets quality for a guy who becomes a free agent at year’s end
LAA has an absolutely dominant rotation
by TheGrinch on Mar 6, 2009 4:34 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
And we do what now at catcher?
The remaining options would be to watch Jeff Mathis flail and maybe not even make .194 this season, watch Budde hit the same, or hope Wilson avoids injury and is miraculously able to make the leap.
Light Up That Halo!
by Clutch on Mar 6, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
this isn't a problem for the Yankees
They don’t really start playing good ball till late July anyways.
by UCIHalo on Mar 6, 2009 7:25 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Don't they have any outfield prospects?
We don’t need much help this year, but our OF legs aren’t getting any younger.
by mattwelch on Mar 6, 2009 7:28 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Austin Jackson
is there top rated prospect.
Give the young guns a chance...if they suck wellll...
by angelskid2210 on Mar 6, 2009 7:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They are not trading him unfortunately
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
by hauldog on Mar 6, 2009 9:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's go...
Figgins and Conger for Phil Hughes and Austin Jackson.
We give up an expiring contract and a good young catcher the yanks need in return for a young pitcher and a young outifelder.
Give the young guns a chance...if they suck wellll...
by angelskid2210 on Mar 6, 2009 7:31 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
yanks have two good catching prospects.
And they see Jackson as their centerfielder for the long-term, so we’d have to address that.
by rghan on Mar 6, 2009 8:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Three-Way
Figgins and HUNTER for Jackson and Hughes.
Then, flip Jackson, Hughes, Adenhart, Jepsen, S-Rod, Morales and Sandoval for Peavy and Gonzalez (maybe Weaver instead of Hughes…)
Have Willits and Matthews duke it out for the centerfield / lead-off job.
We lose Hunter’s bat, but gain Gonzalez’. We get cheaper over the long-term. We lose Hunter’s marketing pizzaz… Well, that’s what we lose. But we’re not paying $18 mil a year, and can buy ourselves a Holliday AND a Guerrero for next year.
by rghan on Mar 6, 2009 8:50 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Does Hunter have a NTC?
Otherwise I’m not that willing to see him go…though the end result would be cool, I don’t think it’s worth absolutely gutting the entire freaking farm system AND a couple of our bigger bats…one Gonzalez is great but the Halos would be in the same position they are now…
Light Up That Halo!
by Clutch on Mar 6, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
HUNTER = NO Trade Clause
4 years left on a 5 yr contract…
by Rev Halofan on Mar 6, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good
And it would be completely ridiculous to ship him out. The man’s done great things for this club both on and off the field in only one year—imagine what will happen in 5…
Light Up That Halo!
by Clutch on Mar 7, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just thinking long term
Hunter’s a great ball player and an even better person. But there’s no way his on-the-field contributions are going to be worth $18 mil a year in the final years of his contract. According to fangraphs, his on-the-field value in 2008 was only around $10 mil, and we’ll be very lucky if all four remaining seasons look like that one.
by rghan on Mar 8, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well get used to him, because even if he did not have the NTC, ain’t NOBODY taking on even HALF his salary.
by Rev Halofan on Mar 9, 2009 3:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A desperate Yanks club might
Hence the original proposal. But, like you said, he’s got an NTC, so it’s a mute point.
by rghan on Mar 9, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A-Rod’s injury is an act to get him out of the WBC.
by Downing Rules on Mar 6, 2009 8:58 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
He has a torn Labrum in his hip
Why would he want out of the WBC?
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
by hauldog on Mar 6, 2009 9:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Figgins for a couple of good AA-ers
hopefully that pan out… not another J. Molina deal.
Kotch would've had that.
by howiestheman on Mar 6, 2009 9:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Josh Hamilton was a great feel-good story
…but I don’t think we should be looking for players in AA.
by George Kaplan on Mar 6, 2009 9:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rule V pick out of A ball
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
by hauldog on Mar 6, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ha!
that one took me a second… but nicely played, sir.
Kotch would've had that.
by howiestheman on Mar 6, 2009 10:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Figgins for Jackson - mini salary dump
I want funds available for a mid season Peavy/Halladay type starter.
by Wytelitning on Mar 6, 2009 9:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Golden Opportunity
To sit down with GMJ, explain to him that he will get minimal playing time with our crowded OF situation, and have Tony Reagins “convince” him Ben Kingsley-style in “Sexy Beast” that he will “turn this opportunity yes” and agree to waive his NTC. Convince the Yankees that GMJ can still play a passable (or at least better than Damon) CF and hit 18 homers with 50 walks (better than Melky Cabrera) and make it a condition that they take him if they want Figgy. Personally, I would hate to see Figgy go and would have concerns about who would leadoff (Abreu?), but if we can get rid of GMJ and his contract for the price of Figgy, I would do it in a heartbeat. Though GMJ’s contract is nothing to the Yankees, they still probably wouldn’t give up much in terms of prospects, so I’d be happy to get a good lefty arm like Phil Coke for Figgy and GMJ.
by Bly-lovin on Mar 6, 2009 9:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by The Limey on Mar 7, 2009 9:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok guys
Give me a list of lead off hitters in the MLB who are better than Figgins. That’s right, not many. And he can play great D almost anywhere. Now, when our replacement lead off hitter bats .250, .340, with 18 sb, I don’t want to here any let’s trade Figgy people crying “damn, I wish we had a lead off hitter.”
Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.
by vladtheimpaler on Mar 7, 2009 1:25 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
agreed!!!
Show 'em your a panther... Show 'em what you can do....
by stuck in Romania on Mar 7, 2009 6:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I think all of us agree he is the best leadoff hitter for our style of baseball.
However, he is in a walk year and you cannot ignore that. He’s going to get bigger money somewhere else next year. Might as well get something right now in return for him while he is of value or else, it is a draft pick compensation … maybe.
So, we are not thinking about 2009, but instead 2010 and beyond when we consider trading our beloved Chone.
by Downing Rules on Mar 7, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought we were trying to win it all this year
So we should trade Lackey now because he is in a walk year and we can’t ignore that? And he’s going to get bigger money next year? Might as well get something for him now?
Maybe. Doesn’t sound too bad. But being a walk year is not an absolute point in favor of getting rid of someone now.
Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.
by vladtheimpaler on Mar 8, 2009 12:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lackey has a future as a dominant pitcher. This is a player you offer a multi-year contract to.
Figgins has legs that are going to turn to lead pretty soon. This is not a player you offer a multi-year contract to.
by Downing Rules on Mar 9, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also RE: Figgins...
He is a statistical nightmare offensively as a 3B-man. That is usually a power position, the hot corner, so you need someone who can whack 20HR’s and drive in 90 to 100. Figgins will never be that guy.
Yes, I love me some Chone Figgins, but I am not blind to the fact that he may not be the right person any longer. Sell high, while you can. His stock is about to drop faster than Citicorp’s.
by Downing Rules on Mar 9, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't buy into it
A third baseman has to be a power hitter. It depends on what you have elsewhere. It use to be you didn’t look for a power hitting shortstop. But times have changed. Maybe your shortstop is a power hitter. Maybe your center fielder is a power hitter. Maybe your center fielder is Ricky Henderson. If you try to fill each position by some pre-subscribed notion of offensive power output then you are limiting the versatility of the overall team.
Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.
by vladtheimpaler on Mar 10, 2009 2:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, Ricky was fast and had power
Bad example, but hopefully you get my point.
Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.
by vladtheimpaler on Mar 10, 2009 2:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Figgy
is a good leadoff hitter, but the only thing he is doing for us is stealing bases. I would rather give Wood a chance who can hit 30+ homeruns and play just as good defense and stick Abreu in the leadoff spot.
Give the young guns a chance...if they suck wellll...
by angelskid2210 on Mar 8, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can play some sick defense at third, also. (I know, I’m flip-flopping). Like I said, I love Figgy, but he ain’t a prototypical 3rd baseman. We need more power, more runs from a guy at the corner with some pop.
by Downing Rules on Mar 9, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
we have the only third baseman in baseball that is also our leadoff hitter. thats sad…..time for woody!
Give the young guns a chance...if they suck wellll...
by angelskid2210 on Mar 9, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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