Rotowire from OCR: Santana Dealing with Elbow Stiffness

Guess we popped off too quickly about the bad luck of the A's Justin Duchscherer. Sure hope both of these guys can get well soon so we can duke it out for the division in 2009.

Scioscia's comment:
" ...right now we don’t see it as anything but a spring-training thing."

Santana is shut down for the time being with an estimated return sometime next week.

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Difference being...

…the first bark from Ervin’s arm versus a history of Ducheeshee’s injuries…

by Rev Halofan on Mar 6, 2009 5:35 PM PST reply actions

a little worrisome

just because a joe saunders regression + santana injury would make our rotation pretty mortal. If we’re supposed to have a beastly rotation carry a developing offense, that could be an issue

by ihearhowie2.0 on Mar 6, 2009 7:16 PM PST reply actions

I wish people would stop saying that joe saunders will regress

We don’t know that. Maybe, God forbid, he will actually get better as he matures.

Not dissing you 2.0. I realize that some posts here are suggesting decline. I don’t buy it. Support the guy for his awesome performance last year, then comment on his performance this year as it proceeds.

Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.

by vladtheimpaler on Mar 7, 2009 1:57 AM PST up reply actions

ok

i guess everyone here was wrong for being upset about the gary matthews signing then because he was coming off a great season.

major hyperbole there as joe is younger and more talented than matthews, but the point is that flukes are not uncommon in baseball and in my opinion joe saunders is more of a #3 or 4 than an all star #2 starter. a lot of his numbers suggest that could be true.

by ihearhowie2.0 on Mar 7, 2009 7:53 AM PST up reply actions

Some of the numbers point that way

But not all of them do.

I think when you write sentences stating regressions as a certainty it comes off bad, especially without substantiating any claim (made as fact) with numbers or links to expliations of predicted regressions.

Ya know what I mean?

by Rev Halofan on Mar 7, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions

He will regress...

Is that what you mean, Rev?

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by jimmuscomp on Mar 7, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions

Not what I mean

No prediction is fact and stating it as such is the kind of arrogance that when someone throws your nose into the turd you laid you spend hours ranting emotional rationalizations that only make you look like even more of a turd-layer than you are.

by Rev Halofan on Mar 7, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions

Seriously, with his K rate...

I expect a bit of regression, but he still seems to be a solid #3 starter and we are asking him to be #4 – so we are ahead of the game.

But I’d be surprised to see an ERA below 3.8 or so this year…

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by jimmuscomp on Mar 7, 2009 8:45 PM PST up reply actions

have a lil faith.........

he’s a stud

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 7, 2009 9:34 PM PST up reply actions

Stud...

is not a word I would equate with Saunders. I like him, don’t get me wrong, but stud he isn’t. I will say that his velocity has been a pleasant surprise. I remember seeing his first few starts and thinking that his 89 MPH FB was gonna get raked all over the field, but his velocity is up in the low 90’s a lot now – greatly enhancing his chances for success.

At 89 MPH, he has to be Glavine-esque in his control. At 93, he can be less than that and succeed.

I wish him well, but an ERA of just under 4.0 is probably more likely than one just under 3.5, don’t ya think?

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by jimmuscomp on Mar 10, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions