Enough is Enough: Bring in Brandon Wood
Angels infielder Brandon Wood was demoted to the minor leagues today.
Brandon Wood has been raking all spring, his K-rate is down from where it was before, and he's done everything a man possibly can to earn a spot. I get that we've got other guys on the depth chart, but this is probably still the top "prospect" (I use the term loosely on our team) in our organization, he's not getting any younger, and he's proven his talent now at every minor league level. The man has nothing more to prove at this point and, if I wanted to cherry pick, he was just beginning to get into the swing of things toward the end of last season with the big club.
Look, Chone Figgins and Erick Aybar are all fine, and I want to see them get playing time, too. But I just don't see any reason at this point to continue to delay the inevitable by continuing to steam ahead with a self-created logjam that is going to keep the current situation the same until something is done about it. Sure, there's no room for Wood right now in an everyday role. But if Aybar and Figgins are going to be long-term pieces (and I think one of them should not be), then that logjam is going to be around until someone acts on it. And in the meantime, our (potentially) power-lacking club could use a contributor like Wood who is, might I add, quite the defender, as well.
The man has earned his shot, and it's not fair to him to leave him sitting in the minors for so long while management sits on its hands and lets his potentially best years go to waste behind two players with considerably less offensive upside. I love both Aybar and Figgins, but the jam-up on the left side of the infield (nevermind Maicer Izturis) is not worth the delay in getting him in front of major league pitching, in my opinion.
Or who knows, maybe I'm just insane and bitter and my man crush got the best of me.
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it definitely sucks
but aybar has arguably had a better spring even with as good of one wood has had
by ihearhowie2.0 on Apr 1, 2009 12:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I definitely have noticed that at this point
Figgins has, too. I think my real issue is that just there’s a lot of redundancy in the skill sets of Figgins and Aybar that we don’t necessarily need to have. We’ve seen what a lineup of slap-hitters looks like for too long at this point. Don’t get me wrong, a few of those guys sprinkled in the lineup really does help an offense, but you can’t count on frenzy hitting to keep an inning going to get real run support. I just think it’s a waste to use the left side of the infield entirely on those two. One of them (Figgins) is expendable in the long run, so as much as I like him, I’d just like to see him jettisoned at the first good chance to get a good return on him, so that Wood can bring some nice pop to the lineup (and a good glove to boot).
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Apr 1, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know he has been killin it this spring...
But so have Figgins and Aybar. If we’re basing everything on this spring, Matt Brown should be starting at 3B. I love Wood as much as the next guy, but I am actually kind of excited to see what Figgy can do after bouncing back from some injuries and what Aybar can do now that he has a full season under his belt.
by NoDakHalo on Apr 1, 2009 12:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wood will be there after the first dis-located thumb or spranged wrist.
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by 44FAN on Apr 1, 2009 12:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Patience Grasshopper... It Will Happen... Soon...
If the past two seasons are any indication of what to expect, Woody will be back in the BIGS before this month is over. If Kendrick or Aybar or Izzy or Figgy get hurt (and chances are one of them will), Wood will get the call. In the meantime he needs to feed off AAA pitching and keep his swing and wait for opportunity to knock.
by Old_Ironside on Apr 1, 2009 12:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If it makes you feel better
I share the man-crush on Wood. I think he has turned the corner and just needs the AB.
If I were to guess, I think Figgins might be dangled to other teams needing a (choose one: Leadoff hitter, CF, 2B, SS, etc). I don’t know that Kenny Williams has every gotten over his desire to see Figgins in White Sox black.
As the first few months of the season go by, some team is going to see a middle INF or OF go down and if Figgins is still doing as well as he’s been doing in AZ, then he’ll have real currency. I doubt the Angels will be signing him as a Free Agent as season’s end, so it makes sense to wait for the right deal and get something in return.
Meanwhile, all Wood can do is continue to show progress, hit the hell out of the ball, work on his 3B game (because I think the Angels think Aybar is the keeper, not Figgins) and be ready when the trade is announced. He’ll get the AB in SLC, but he won’t if he’s riding the bench, getting in maybe once every 7th day. This is an excellent opportunity to show management that he can handle the “demotion” with class and maturity, and use the time to build his creds with the glove as well as the bat.
The good part is that the team isn’t forced to make any moves, and keeping Wood at SLC for a few months simply protracts his time before arbitration and then free agency—which is a hell of an incentive for the club to get on the side.
I really feel the same way about Matt Brown, who’s done everything he could to make the team this Spring as well. What a happy problem to have, though: Two corner INF with pop sitting on the outside but ready to contribute.
by George Kaplan on Apr 1, 2009 1:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It Will Be Interesting To See...
…what position they decide to play him in SLC. Short or third? They may play him at short with Matt Brown at third. That could be an indicator as to whom they would be looking to shop. The problem is that Figgins goes FA at the end of the year, that makes it diificult to get much in return. Izturis is also approaching free agency (after 2010). Aybar still has years before free agency. Another more devious angle is by limiting the number of days he spends on the roster this season may allow slow down Woods own free agency clock. If plays a half season or less, then he wouldn’t become an FA until 2015.
by Old_Ironside on Apr 1, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Missing Option
“Damned if I know what to do”
Angels fan since '67
by red floyd on Apr 1, 2009 1:18 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Hahaha
I think that’s sorta what the “Put him in Anaheim, but only if he can play regularly,” option was…basically, it was me trying to say “I want to see him playing all the time here, but I really have no idea the best way to accomplish that.”
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Apr 1, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, this is life
I know it sucks but I am sure many readers here on HH are working at jobs where the only way they will get promoted is if their boss dies. I say this with a brother-in-law as my boss. He threatened to quit and got promoted…. Hmmmmm….
Wood will get his chance. The FO just isn’t willing to trade talent w/o getting some value in return. The questions is tho’ are the Angels expecting too much for their trade bail (Figgins, etc ….?) in return?
by rmhalofan on Apr 1, 2009 1:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Trade Figgins
Barring that, trade Matthews, and make Figgins your 4th outfielder for when the graybeards get hurt.
But you’re totally right — it’s time, and his development is now officially stunted unless he’s in the major leagues every day. We are making our 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013 teams worse with every day that he is not facing Major League pitching. Enough, already.
by mattwelch on Apr 1, 2009 2:02 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Yep.
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Jim Scully
by jimmuscomp on Apr 1, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am on the same wagon
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by gorams77 on Apr 2, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Geeze
I wonder why Mike doesn’t agree with you guys. Maybe it’s some conspiracy. Or he only wants to play vets at the expense of younger players. Or since they are making the big bucks we have to play them (the old Matthews logic).
Like I’ve said before, I’m glad Mike is coaching the team and not Halos Heaven.
(I still love HH)
Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.
by vladtheimpaler on Apr 3, 2009 3:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry ...
But Figgins should not be getting over 600PA at a 4 corners position on a team starved for power.
Figgins is good enough for a full time 2B, but Kendrick should be better.
Either trade Figgy or keep him as supersub. Aybar at SS full time is fine because of his great range.
One month at AAA to sort things out is fine, but let Brandon know that on May 1 he is coming up.
by elricsi on Apr 1, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i also feel for sean rodriguez and matt brown
we really need to make a trade just to get some value out of these guys. maybe sell both off for a stud single A player or something, or move rodriguez to the outfield or who knows. we need to find ways to get the most out of these 3 players.
maybe have matt brown exclusively play 1st base in AAA so he’s our backup to kendry, and let rodriguez start to tinker with the outfield while still playing 2nd and short.
wood keeps playing 3rd and short
2010, who knows, they might all get over 300 ABs with the Angels with figgins, abreu, and hopefully matthews gone
by ihearhowie2.0 on Apr 1, 2009 4:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
S-Rod actually played CF in todays game.
Hopefully he’ll get lots of time there in SLC. Outfielders are a weak area for us, and we’ll likely have a spot or two opening up there next season.
~Till the Halo burns out...
by Zu Long on Apr 1, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard people kicking around the idea of Trumbo moving to the OF
I think in the L.A. Times (so, grain of salt). Maybe help fill in a corner outfield?
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Apr 1, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, Trumbo appears to be an Adam Dunn or Travis Hafner type, glove wise.
Natural DH. Not much good at picking the ball at first, not much range in the OF.
~Till the Halo burns out...
by Zu Long on Apr 1, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And with Trumbo's aversion to the walk
I don’t hold out much hope for him in MLB. He seems like a very bad bet to be useful at the big league level to me…
Jim Scully
by jimmuscomp on Apr 1, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ADM DUNN mancrushers
will probably be arguing over him as an option to jettison everyone else for many years to come…
by Rev Halofan on Apr 1, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dunn's an Admiral too?
Just like Aybar?
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by red floyd on Apr 1, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
S-Rod actually played some outfield last year too...
He is definitely going to see time in the OF at SLC this year.
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Apr 1, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is good news.
He is a very real prospect. His walk rate makes me hopeful that after a steady dose of big league breaking pitches he will start to lay off of them and strike out less. His walk rate was fine – it was his atrocious K rate that worried me, but he doesn’t have the strikeout history of Mr. Wood.
Put him in CF and forget about him this year. Then move Torii to LF, put SRod in CF and see what happens.
Jim Scully
by jimmuscomp on Apr 1, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed!
I wouldnt be surprised if S-Rod turns out to be a better major leaguer than Wood.
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Apr 1, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
really?
ive never seen it that way?
what makes you think this? im honestly interested in this perspective.
by TheAngelsAngels on Apr 1, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont have the chops of some other guys on this site
So, I can’t back it up with a bazillion stats and quotes from scouts.
My sentiments are based purely on the versatility of Rodriguez both with his batting stats and in the field. I also think he gets over shadowed by Wood. I always saw Wood as this guy who smacks the ball hard and far but doesnt hit for much average or OBP. Although, this ST, that seemed to have change.
We’ll see!
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Apr 1, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm down with this
anything that involves more S-Rod
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by HaloDutch on Apr 2, 2009 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me three.
I got me some mad Izzy love and feel he is often overlooked in chat around here, but I would be the first to pull the trigger in favor of SRod. I would actually admit that I have a higher opinion of SRod than I do of Aybar.
by Stirrups on Apr 2, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Izturis, too...
but play him every day for 2 weeks, and I’ve got good odds that he’s going down with an injury.
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by Downing Rules on Apr 3, 2009 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
but only if those two weeks include the all-star break. Otherwise I give him a week.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Apr 3, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Outfield prospects
We need to trade some of these infielders for some outfield prospects as 1) our current one’s are getting older, and 2) we have absolutely no power hitting outfielders in the system. We have a system of Tommy Murphy’s!
If anything, as other people on the site has mentioned, I’d like to see HK47 try the OF and keep Rodriguez at 2B, if we are to move anyone to the OF
by HaloFanInDC on Apr 1, 2009 4:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Other way around.
S-Rod started out as an outfielder and has a cannon-arm. Howie’s more of a natural second baseman.
~Till the Halo burns out...
by Zu Long on Apr 1, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, we have DO have outfielders who project for power
it’s just that they were in Rookie ball last year. (Angel Castillo, Terrel Alliman).
~Till the Halo burns out...
by Zu Long on Apr 1, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trouble turning the double play
I recall reading in places that the big knock on Howie was his defense and that he had trouble turning the double-play? I don’t have any references or links off the top of my head, but I thought that was a concern with him. I just seem to remember people talking about maybe moving HK to left field or something to that effect.
by HaloFanInDC on Apr 1, 2009 4:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They may have said that a while back but he's fine now.
He’s been a plus defender at second the last two seasons, at least when he’s been on the field.
~Till the Halo burns out...
by Zu Long on Apr 1, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough
i definitely defer to your knowledge in this area. How do you project Rodriguez in the OF? Do you think he can provide enough of a bat to justify the move?
by HaloFanInDC on Apr 1, 2009 4:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He definitely has the bat to justify moving him in order to keep him.
He doesn’t have Wood’s power, but he’s a more patient hitter. I’d put his ceiling somewhere around Bobby Abreu (I’m not saying he WILL be Abreu, mind you, just that he COULD be). As far as fielding, he looked fine today, but there’s no way to tell if he can hang in center. I’m entirely confident of his ability to play left or right and be a plus defender though. He’s too much of an athlete not to be.
~Till the Halo burns out...
by Zu Long on Apr 1, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to Sean Smith's defensive MLE's and BP
Sean was pretty good in center when he got his reps there a few years back. He’s a great ballplayer.
by rghan on Apr 2, 2009 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one is adressing who our lead-off hitter will be if Figgy is traded.
Plus, I read somewhere on ESPN or something, that Soth likes to have a traditional lead-off hitter and this is the reason why Figgy is staying where he is.
Also, I love BWood but I also like speed and players with good OBP. Figgy and Aybar provide or at least have the potential to provide that.
Finally, i know people say Abreu can lead-off but he is not a traditional lead-off hitter and has the guy even lead-off before on a regular basis??
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Apr 1, 2009 5:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Never on a regular basis.
Most plate appearances at leadoff in a season were in 2000 with 90 or so.
~Till the Halo burns out...
by Zu Long on Apr 1, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the upside on Aybar
but he’s got a long way to go before he’s a reliable OBP guy.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Apr 1, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way.
Aybar, unless his approach is very different than last year, has no business hitting higher than 8th in a big league lineup. Folks – don’t be swayed by his ST stats.
He is a .275 hitter with no walks and minimal power. He is really the one that should be relegated to back-up role while B-Wood becomes the everyday SS. Next year, if SRod is still playing the IF – give him 3rd base – if not – maybe Matt Brown deserves a shot at 3rd w/ Wood at SS…
We need bats. The only guys with potential to hit and hit for power keep getting shoved to the back of the bus by the punch-and-judy hitters Scioscia felates every year.
Jim Scully
by jimmuscomp on Apr 1, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do we really need power?
Your not the only one who has said this but don’t we already have power?
Abreu, KMO, Rivera, Vlad, Hunter, Naps?
I want BWood to get on the team just as everyone else. I just feel like we are ridiculously anxious for power for no real reason. Whose going to give us 30 steals, lay down the bunt and get on base when Figgy is gone?
If Figgy gets traded, we have a gap in a regular lead-off hitter.
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Apr 1, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the postseason is any indicatioin
Aybar won’t be getting any bunts down either. Too soon?
by turs12 on Apr 1, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay so both of you disagree with me because of how they bunt?
My point still stand—we wont have a lead off hitter if we get rid of Figgy or Aybar.
Plus, Aybar laid down a majority of his bunts during the season. I disagree with Soth’s call but it was still a percentage call.
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Apr 1, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you underestimate Aybar there.
He’s shown just as much improvement with his plate approach this spring as Kendrick. That’s part of why he’s hit so well.
Also, while Aybar’s never going to be the power hitter that Wood is, don’t underestimate the potential of Aybar’s glove. This is a guy who could save you 20 runs above average a year at the second most important defensive position—or maybe even more.
~Till the Halo burns out...
by Zu Long on Apr 1, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sorta project Aybar as a Luis Castillo-type offensive player
with a little more pop.
Say, .290/.330/.430
Maybe I’m off base though.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Apr 1, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take a .760 OPS at short with Aybars glove easy,
Though admittedly a .330 OBP isn’t what you want from the leadoff man.
~Till the Halo burns out...
by Zu Long on Apr 1, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take it, too
and, as you said, probably not love it at lead-off…but it would play well at say, the 7th-9th spots.
I mean, with the right supplemental offensive skill-sets and contexts (basestealing, bunting, overall contact skills, etc.), and OPS+ in the 90-100 range can easily be not only acceptable, but actually quite good. Obviously higher would be better, but it’s not the draw back it would be perceived to be.
Ideally, Aybar just learns to draw a freakin’ walk.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Apr 1, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't Walk your way off the island....
I think all the patience on the island was given to Pujols…
by MidwayCityLivestock on Apr 2, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's improvement
The guy knows how to be selective, knows how to wait for a pitch to drive.
He showed signs of good judgement and fantastic secondary skills at the beginning of last year. Again when he came of the DL. And again in his first couple weeks of winter ball. The problem is, when he tastes success, he begins to think he can hit anything, expands his strike zone, and ditches those underutilized secondary skills.
One of these days I’m going to go through game logs to try to prove this point – it presently remains only a subjective rant – but I’d swear that I’ve seen him step up to the plate with a plan, seen him put together disciplined at bats with great results, and then seen him chuck what should be the take-away lessons from those at bats.
Projection systems don’t do him justice – I think he didn’t get enough at bats in the upper minors to refine his approach, but one of these years he’s going to put it all together and be an allstar.
by rghan on Apr 2, 2009 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
who are you talking about
Aybar or Wood?
by Rev Halofan on Apr 2, 2009 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think some of it is just experience.
As he gets older and the whole “succeed now” thing wears off he’ll make fewer and fewer of those kinds of mistakes, both at the plate and in the field. Or at least, I hope so.
~Till the Halo burns out...
by Zu Long on Apr 2, 2009 6:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is the most important defensive position?
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
by hauldog on Apr 2, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Catcher.
Involved in every play etc. etc.
~Till the Halo burns out...
by Zu Long on Apr 2, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
by hauldog on Apr 2, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Added note...
…that is why so many managers are former catchers. They have had to think through more aspects of the game (especially pitching) than any other position player.
by sothball on Apr 2, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get that
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
by hauldog on Apr 3, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but...
Plus, I read somewhere on ESPN or something, that Soth likes to have a traditional lead-off hitter and this is the reason why Figgy is staying where he is.
I would be very surprised if Figgins finished the season with the Angels. I don’t see the team paying him after 2009, and it would only make sense to trade him for a good offer. In the next 60-90 days, some team will have a malfunction with manpower and, assuming Figgins is hitting decently-to-well and isn’t on the DL, Reagins may well be tempted to pull the trigger on a deal.
by George Kaplan on Apr 1, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet Figgy stays...
especially if he performs like he did in ST. We’ll see though….
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Apr 1, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He stays only with an offer from the Angels
And I don’t think they’ll pay a 32 year old very well or for very many years in what would be the declining phase of his career when there are players like Brown, Rodriguez and Wood all seeking spots on the field.
by George Kaplan on Apr 2, 2009 4:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Figgins' skill set tends not to age well, too
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by scareduck on Apr 2, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got Brandon Wood at 50 cents in my keeper league.. I have Aybar as my SS (I am an expansion team) Saunders and Weaver I also have,both for about 5 bucks,and I had to get both off auction.. I got Juan Rivera in auction for 3.50 !
I don’t know much about Wood,but I hope he becomes a good Major leaguer..
by raven191 on Apr 1, 2009 7:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How do you guys do the whole expansion team thing?
In the past, our keeper league has always had an owner step aside, allowing new owners to inherit their team and work with that…but not this year.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Apr 1, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Expansion
What you’re describing really isn’t expansion, it’s just a change of ownership when one of the manager ends up being a deadbeat(that’s how I got in on my keeper league)
What I’ve proposed for expansion in a keeper league is that you reduce the number of keepers on the established teams (ex: 4 keepers instead of 5 keepers if your league is expanding from 8 teams to 10 teams) and the new teams get those 4 “extra” picks at the beginning of the draft.
That’s the framework at least, I haven’t seen it entirely in action yet though.
If GA wasn't so Lazy, I'd have something clever here.
by TheTypingFiend on Apr 1, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I know what I'm describing isn't expansion
what I was saying though, is that in the PAST expansion hasn’t been an issue because we were able to just hand over the teams of ‘deadbeats.’ But as I was saying at the end, however, this year we wanted to expandwithout enough owners leaving (one owner left, but two were joining).
Our procedure is basically this: we have 11 teams (it was 12 a while back, but we downsized, and moved from head-to-head to roto to accommodate). During the season, we each have 22 players. At the very end of the year, within a few weeks of the end of the W.S., owners must post a list of 10 keepers. The other 12 are dropped permanently. From that point, until the draft (which is done on a message board over the course of several weeks) in February, you can trade any of those 10 for picks, for other players in people’s 10, or whatever else you want. Then, right before the draft, you have to finalize your SIX that you get to carry into the season.
When the one owner quit and the two were brought in for expansion, we went through the 22 of the one owner that quit and dropped the best 10 of them, plus the 4 remaining players from each team during its 10 → 6 roster cuts into an expansion draft, and let them alternate picks from that group until they had their own keeper six. They then also got the first and second picks of the draft (the one who picked first in the ‘expansion draft’ picking second overall in the real draft.) It worked out pretty well, with one of those two teams basically having one roughly on par with the rest of us, and the other one having a shitty team…but not because of a lack of quality, but because he’s a moron who took guys like Torii Hunter before Justin Morneau.
Anyway, we pay yearly for the league. I’ve finished 2nd the last 3 years (fluke losses to worse teams the last 2), and this is now the first year in which prizes go to more than just the first place winner…which sucks because we’ve been voting on that topic for the last 3 years. $20 a head times 12 = $240 bucks. $140 for first, $70 for second, and $30 for third.
If you’re interested:
C- Matt Wieters (NA)
1B- Mark Teixeira
2B- Howie Kendrick
SS- Jose Reyes
3B- David Wright
OF- Nick Markakis
OF- Carlos Beltran
OF- Magglio Ordonez
UTL- Shane Victorino
BN- Delmon Young
BN- Travis Hafner
SP- Cole Hamels
SP- Zack Greinke
RP- Carlos Marmol
RP- Matt Capps
P- Yovani Gallardo
P- Justin Verlander
P- Mike Pelfrey
BN- David Price (NA)
BN- George Sherrill
BN- John Maine
BN- Oliver Perez
I’ve been an incredibly awesome trader in recent times. In early ‘07, I traded Hafner away and got Markakis and Hamels from an Indians fan. I’ve kept both of them, he cut Hafner, and I picked him up in the 13th round this year (remember, effectively 19th round). I also traded Vladdy (sorry dudes, wouldn’t fit my keeper 6!) from my keeper 10 the night before the draft for a second round pick, and had a keeper-6 of Hamels, Teixeira, Beltran, Reyes, Wright, and Markakis.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Apr 1, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually prefer Figgy
However, with Brown and Wood battling for third and short, and maturing into bonified MLB players, I wouldn’t be too surprised to see the Fig man in left next year (or maybe even later this year).
Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.
by vladtheimpaler on Apr 2, 2009 5:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Next year...
…I wouldn’t be surprised to see Figgins, Izturis and Q all on their way, to be replaced with Wood, S-Rod & Brown. Mice Tits and Figgins should both have some trade value during the year (not so sure about Q)
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by The Limey on Apr 2, 2009 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's hoping
That Figgy is our lead off man for the next three years. I can’t figure out why more people don’t agree with this, but so be it.
We all want to see those three make it. They STILL have to prove it. Don’t trade away the steak until the veal matures (I just made that up, I’m so impressed by myself !).
Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.
by vladtheimpaler on Apr 3, 2009 2:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope this scenario plays out as well where Figgins is an Angel for the next three years
Seems Angels fans are quick to turn on Figgy instead of appreciating him. Its kind of like the situation with K-Rod, though there is not as much animosity, except for the consensus he’s essentially blocking a guy who might still become a franchise star in the way Tim Salmon, Darin Erstad or Troy Glaus was once viewed…it’s funny how many posters goes ‘Acuda’ on Brandon Wood and no one has a problem with it.
However, I do see where the ‘young man needs to play’ and say what I will – with his skill set [no power], Figgy is not the ideal third baseman.
If the Angels feel Figgy can find a spot to play [OK, not third base or shortstop] and the Angels are confident he is going to be healthy, I’d sign him to a ‘reasonably’ priced two or three year extension.
He is a very valuable complimentary player who ignites the top of the lineup and plays hard. If he was … he’d be lauded like David Eckstein or Reggie Willits.
by BBFan1 on Apr 3, 2009 3:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And there is the problem
If the Angels feel Figgy can find a spot to play [OK, not third base or shortstop] and the Angels are confident he is going to be healthy, I’d sign him to a ‘reasonably’ priced two or three year extension.
Where would he play?
His value to the club would come from being in the lineup daily, not in being a bench/role player. Therefore, he needs a spot, not the role of filling in for x one day and for y the next.
Wood needs to make the jump, and indications are that Matt Brown should as well. With Kendrick appearing solid as a major leaguer, that leaves LF, and Figgins isn’t the ideal choice for LF (the “no power” argument again), and while he doesn’t embarrass himself in the OF necessarily, he used his speed in the past to make up for running gaffes on flyball routes; as he gets older and his speed drops, he loses that asset as well.
Assuming Vlad is extended a few more seasons, the Angels figure to have an OF of Rivera-Hunter-Guerrero-Matthews-Willits (or someone else). Further, if Matt Brown pushes the envelope, I could even see Morales being moved to the OF rotation with Brown in at 1B (outside shot, but we need to see all the configurations). In either case, the OF would be full.
I don’t think the Angels will pay Figgins what he feels he has earned, and I suspect more than a couple of teams will prize his versatility and specific qualities, which will fit well on their 2010 team—he just doesn’t fit in well on the Angels in 2010.
by George Kaplan on Apr 3, 2009 4:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"turn on Figgy"
It’s not turning on him, it is an understanding of the nature of the business. Why put away a load of cash (that he will command from some other team) toward him when his skillset is certainly going to decline quickly.
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by Downing Rules on Apr 3, 2009 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And is already somewhat replicated by other players
…and he’s blocking a player with a skill set that we have a much more pressing need for.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Apr 3, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand why we need Figgins in there
but it’s still disappointing to see Brandon without a job. I thought he’d at least get a spot on the bench. The only thing this guy has left to prove is that he can be an everyday player and the only way to do that is to…..well….. play every day. I guess our problem is that we have too many capable infielders and outfielders and only one of them is a viable lead off hitter.
by Chzburger Jones on Apr 2, 2009 7:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The bench does Wood no good
He should be playing every day. He can still improve and develop. That would come faster at MLB-level play, of course, but riding the pine wouldn’t do anything for him.
by George Kaplan on Apr 2, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With all the talent we have that could play third cheaply
there is no way Figgins plays another year with the Angels. If the FO gets an opportunity to trade him for any value he will be gone. IMHO
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by Halo84653 on Apr 2, 2009 10:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He's gone at the end of the year regardless
AFAIK he’s on a one-year deal for 2009.
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by scareduck on Apr 2, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The expendable players list
Regardless of who stays and who goes, the bottom line is that we have a number of players that we could shed 1 or 2 of, and it will not likely inhibit our performance.
Aybar
Izzy
Wood
Brown
Rodriguez
Mathis
Budde
Wilson
Matthews
Willits
I’m just not sure we can put Figgins or Napoli on the list. I know Figgins will eventually decline (like every ball player keep in mind), but if we focus on the present as Scioscia and the Ninja like to do, Figgins is an important part of the team. As for Napoli vs. Mathis, I think they pulled a prank on us, and wore each other’s jerseys this spring. I wouldn’t go back to the platoon just because Mathis hit well in 49 AB’s.
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by Rally Manatee on Apr 3, 2009 12:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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