Road Warmongers: Angels Beat Orioles 7-5
by Rev Halofan on Apr 28, 2009 7:04 PM PDT
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PrintFinal Score in Baltimore: Los Angeles Angels 7, Baltimore Orioles 5
The Angels began an eight game road trip with timely hitting and serviceable pitching to hold off the Orioles at Camden Yards in Baltimore. The Orioles led 4-2 at one point, shaking up Angel starter Joe Saunders, an alum of nearby Virginia Tech and a native of Falls Church, Virginia. Well it wasn't the civil war, as confederate Maryland fell to Virginia's latest major son.
The turning point came with another pitcher, though, Scot Shields (whose leadoff walk in the bottom of the 8th seemed to be the beginning of a recent Angel trend of blowing games wide open with bullpen implosions) got a visit on the mound from manager Mike Scioscia. Catcher Mike Napoli was privy to an animated lecture by the dean of the American League's managers. The lecture held and Shields' ERA is back to single digits (9.39) after his scoreless inning. Brian Fuentes gave up a solo homer to Adam Jones in an otherwise uneventful 9th inning for his 4th save as an Angel.
The Angels offense scored 7 runs for the 5th time in 6 games, a feat unlike any recent Angel offense. With bullpen implosions in so many of those games though, they are 3-3 in that past half-dozen. Howie Kendrick had a two-run homer to tie the game in the 4th inning and Kendry Morales had a ringing double down the line to add some insurance in the 7th.
That 7th inning saw Angels baserunners TWICE break a cardinal baseball rule as the first AND last outs were made at third base, with Morales attempting to stretcha double into a trinple as well as draw the throw away from the plate to ensure the 7th run scoring. The inning had led off with Chone Figgins attemoting to stretch a leadoff double into a triple as well. But the baseball gods seemed in a forgiving mood and allowed the bullpen to help the Halos open the roadtrip with a victory, which coupled with Sunday's homestand finale over Seattle added up to the first two-game winning streak of 2009.
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Wooo Figgy panther.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 28, 2009 7:05 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
well I voted KMO........
having posted this before Rev finished puttng up the poll………there’s an argument for a few folks today……..
all in all a great win.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 28, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
well I vote KMO too.....
I woulda voted for Figgy….but both played good.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 28, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Why is it Panther?
Why not player?
Not complaining, I’m a Carolina Panther fan :)
34 - N.J.A - R.I.P
this is why: http://www.halosheaven.com/story/2006/6/5/41318/19900
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
by vlad IS my man on Apr 28, 2009 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
go o the homepage, middle of right sidebar
the link is on top of panther tattoo
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
by vlad IS my man on Apr 28, 2009 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I value 1 run saves...
A 3 run lead should never be blown IMO. Anyway, just not voting for Fuentes. :-)
Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.
I value saves,
I just don’t think that K-Rod was on POTG each time HE got a save…
whatver. I voted for K-Mo anywho…
34 - N.J.A - R.I.P
man that was a source of many heated debates on here last year.......
it’s just opinions man……you vote for who you want….and all is good.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 28, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
no he wasnt...
which was part of the problem………some people value saves highly….others dont….so people were mad that Frankie hardly ever got any panthers……….which is why Rev went to more of a democracy voting decisions……..but even as you see now……there is always gonna be disagreements…….
Its kinda funny how we all can watch the same game……yet see different things…..thats the beauty of individuality.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 28, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't actually watch...
the ninth, I didn’t watch any. I watched 1-8 on GD, but abandoned in the ninth. So, when I saw that Fuentes was up there, I went back and watched, but was suprised to see he did just what I thought he’d do…Nothing more nothing less…
But, I didn’t mind that he was up there, I was just suprised.
That’s the way it should be though. If him being up there is a result of a whole year’s worth of problems, he should be up there.
34 - N.J.A - R.I.P
and thats one of the main points people would bring up....
Frankie last year was “just doing his job” and thus people would argue the only way he could get a panther was to pitch more than 1 inning (which never happened) or strike out 4 in a inning…..or something along those lines…
needless to say……that debate came up alot…….as evidence by Frankie’s stellar statistical season last year
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 28, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions
This is the case
for Fuentes’ inclusion. Well-stated, no matter which side of the argument you are on.
I think SI story
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
by vlad IS my man on Apr 28, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Here is a link from the fan site of the Arkansas Travelers
http://travelerocity.blogs.com/travelerocity/2006/08/index.html
http://travelerocity.blogs.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/howie_kendrick_si.jpg
Fuentes is an option?
For kicks?
Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.
First time this season we've had consecutive wins!
can we make it a whopping THREE tomorrow?
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Apr 28, 2009 7:11 PM PDT reply actions
Aybar
Can we have a blame of the game when we win?
thats pointless lol
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 28, 2009 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions
To be fair..
This game would have been a lot less close if it weren’t for his K, GIDP, error, and if he was Brandon Wood.
by ponusbaum43 on Apr 28, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good thing we have Aybar in there for his D and OBP. :(
I am a fair weather fan so the Angels better win!
Yeah -
I am tiring of the Aybar Experiment. He just doesn’t belong in MLB as a starter. He is a fine utility IF – can play 3 positions, I’m sure. But he can’t friggin’ hit and we have a kid that looked locked and loaded at the plate against the M’s the other day who has proved himself in AAA and deserves a shot to hit ML pitching everyday….
Everyday that Aybar is the starting SS is a condemnation on Scioscia for lack of imagination and valuing the wrong things in a ballplayer. Middle infielders were all glove, no hit in the 1980’s Mike – but the game evolved. Without you, I’m afraid.
RIP Nick...
Jim Scully
Jim Scully Home
by jimmuscomp on Apr 29, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
-1
In a year of such turmoil, whining still abounds.
by Downing Rules on Apr 29, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
It's stuck in early last season.
Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.
Yeah
Good to see that we’ll win even if he doesn’t carry the team. Good to see him get the run home with a runner at third and less than two outs though!
Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.
The Halo is lit!
I don’t care about Pregame picks right now. Hahah :-)
Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.
Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.
by AlanFalcon on Apr 28, 2009 7:14 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
nice.........
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 28, 2009 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions
picked up a game one the M's
two games in a row!
There is an "Angel in the outfield" and his name is GA! ps. he is lazy but not a bum GO HALOS!
Well, we picked up half a game today
The M’s look to win the second half of the double header easily.
Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.
ah good call
There is an "Angel in the outfield" and his name is GA! ps. he is lazy but not a bum GO HALOS!
sorry
that was supposed to be a reply.
The pre-game poll – where are the results posted.
by angelsfan777 on Apr 28, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions
so...
you make your picks, but can’t find them?
If so, read below.
HEY LOOK THAT RHYMES!!!!!!
But, if so, read norcalli’s reply…
34 - N.J.A - R.I.P
they will show up as a big box "RESULTS" its brown and red and other colors. in the main part of the post......
but ScottNak the guy who posts em said he’s got some school work to do and probably wont post till later tonight
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 28, 2009 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Gotta go with Figgins
2-3, double, 2 runs, 2BB, 2SB. Quite a night.
Angel Pitching (Adenhart), Angel Defense - get past that.
Can't argue with that line.
The stolen bases really did a great job messing with the pitcher’s heads.
Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.
was quite a night......
It’s always better discussing a Panther…………rather than a blame though :)
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 28, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
One's panther can be anothers blame!
Angel Pitching (Adenhart), Angel Defense - get past that.
by vladtheimpaler on Apr 29, 2009 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions
FanGraphs
Has Morales running away as the best contributor tonight.
Good game:
Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.
is there an explanation somewhere on how fangraphs comes up with its findings?
Not that I disagree with it tonight……..just curious.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 28, 2009 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
your two year old scribbles up and down and there you go... Fangraphs
Adenhart 1986-2009
by cupie on Apr 28, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 28, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions
It's win probability. The K-Mo double...
made it about 85% sure that the Halos would win. Before that it was at about 65%.
Think about it – the game starts (left most part of X axis) with each team having a 50% shot at winning (the Y axis). As events unfold – that probability changes. The Mora single put the O’s at 75% chance to win – but that was the 3rd inning.
So as other stuff happens – the Howie HR for instance – the probability returns to just about 50%. Anyway, that K-Mo double made a one-run game a three-run game in the 7th inning. That really changes a teams’ chance of winning. Of course, Scot with one “T” tried his best to blow another gam, but K-Mo would not be denied.
RIP Nick...
Jim Scully
Jim Scully Home
If you look at WPA and the current score of the game...
You’ll see that you only have a +50% chance of winning when your team has the lead. You can get very close to 50% while down, say with no outs and the bases loaded, but as you get outs without scoring runs, your win probability will drop (you have much less chance of driving in the run with 2 outs than you did with 0 outs) … it actually makes a great deal of sense if you watched the game and the Fangraph together.
Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.
Right - I agree. I completely "get" it.
Our friend up-thread was asking about it – sorry if my response was confusing….
RIP Nick...
Jim Scully
Jim Scully Home
I was confusing. :-)
I should have responded to him, not you. My bad!
Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.
Well
I think they coded retrosheet (all PBP data from like ever, or 1951, one of those two), and look at how each play in each situation correlates to a win, or something like that.
Magic
That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey
by anaheim angels on Apr 28, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
what I find weird is how KMO's WPA is so much greater than Figgy's.....
when Figgy’s overall stats were superior…..
I guess some stats are weighed more heavily than others.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 28, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
WPA takes into account the importance of the situation. A two out double with a man on second in a tight game
will get a higher WPA than a one out double with a man on 2nd in a run away game.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/get-to-know-wpa/
I am a fair weather fan so the Angels better win!
cool thats what I have been looking for thanks!
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 28, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure Figgins running into an out at third base
Means that FanGraphs sees that just like any other out (because, in a way, it really was), and without that double Figgins’ numbers aren’t quite as impressive. Still, I’m glad we’re being aggressive and forcing the other team’s defense to be perfect, and I don’t think FanGraphs gives points for potential.
Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.
well thats like saying without one of KMO's double......his numbers wouldnt have been as impressive either.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 29, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Huh?
KMO doubled productively. Figgins, before another batter came to bat, was out on the ball he hit. In terms of helping the team win, he contributed nothing on his double out-at-third.
Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.
Kendrick = panther
KMo and Figgy had big games too, but we really needed that HR when we were down 4-2 and Joe was struggling. It changed the whole game around.
Kendrick
Had to do a happy dance or two after he hit that home run.
Sosh gets the panther for explaining to Scot that loading the bases with BBs
isn’t a winning formula.
I got a fever and the only prescription is... more Kowbell!
Kendry Morales = Panther
Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Howard's Superstore = POTG
Dude those plasma TV are flying out the door!
God needed a starter. RIP #34
So does the polls not work on the mobile site?
Every time I try to vote on my phone, it just goes to a blank screen.
I have nothing important to say.
Had to do it
I just had to nitpick on the first paragraph. Falls Church, VA is near Maryland, not Virginia Tech. Tech is in the mountains far from Maryland. But who cares, Angels won.
He keeps up these ballsy performances...
we’ll call it “BALLS” church.
In a year of such turmoil, whining still abounds.
by Downing Rules on Apr 29, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Does the pope shit in the woods?
In a year of such turmoil, whining still abounds.
by Downing Rules on Apr 30, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
The pope is WISE and he has a crack.
In a year of such turmoil, whining still abounds.
by Downing Rules on May 2, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
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