Yankees Overpower Angels in 3-Run 8th
by Rev Halofan on Apr 30, 2009 7:02 PM PDT
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PrintFinal Score in the Bronx: Angels 4, Yankees 7
Rookie Anthony Ortega threw a hundred piches in his 2nd ever major league appearance, holding the Yankees to 4 runs in his 6.1 IP. Reliever Justin Speier, 11 years Ortega's senior and 578 games ahead in major league appearances over the rookie, saw his first appearance at the new Yankee Stadium become a disaster as he gave up 4 hits and 3 ER in 1/3 of an inning pitched.
The Angels kept Yankee starter AJ Burnett busy but never came through with the big hit, Mike Napoli's solo homerun being a highlight, as well as Erick Aybar's fearless challenge of Johnny Damon's nonexistent throwing arm on a Chone Figgins bloop to shallow left, scoring all the way from 2nd Base.
It was the Angels first loss in their past four games and the first loss of the season wearing their alternate red jerseys. Aybar, Figgins and Maicer Izturis (at DH) all gave no reason for fans to cease thir squabble over the Los Angeles Quarterback Controversey of Anaheim, wondering aloud - and louder after every weak effort on the part of the scrawny infield set - over the absence of the power-laden bad of post-prospect Brandon Wood, riding the Anaheim pine tonight in the Big Apple. The mysteries of Mike Scioscia's love affair with scrappy infielders continue to taunt Halo Fans everywhere.
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Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2009 7:03 PM PDT reply actions
Speier
Unanimous so far. Abreu sucked too, especially in the field.
I know...WTF?
So now Abreu wont go to the wall OR charge in? Well I guess he’s great if you hit it right to him
RIP Nick. We will miss you!
I watched him for the last two years
he plays the outfield wall like there are spikes coming out of it
GA GA he's the man, if he can't do it, no one can
lol and wrong on so many levels......haha
#34 -1986 - 2008
by fatguy_n_alilc0at on Apr 30, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
The pony or Bill Macdonald?
Nick Adenhart.
by WillGoAngels27 on Apr 30, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
who do you think?
#34 -1986 - 2008
by fatguy_n_alilc0at on Apr 30, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I think its JR
he absolutely killed us today. 3 groundball outs including a DP killed potential and current rallies. If he comes through, then speier (close second for BOTG) doesnt even enter into the equation, as it goes dondo- f-rex
That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey
Mike Butcher should be fired
our bullpen has gotten progressively worse every year since he took over.
RIP Nick. We will miss you!
yes, mike butcher should be fired
he is the sole reason why all our pitchers get injured, (jepsen included). He should be commended for somehow our starters ERA being tops (or near) in the league with 10 different starters. If the season went as planned, oliver and moseley would be in the bullpen right now. Shields goes through a funk every year, and Bulger/Speier are shitting the bed. Dondo had 1 (!) bad month.
That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey
by anaheim angels on Apr 30, 2009 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I can read. Im also smart.
Oliver and Loux, who would be in the bullpen, are forced to start, necessitating the call ups of R. Rodriguez and Chopper. Oliver+Loux>>Rodriguez+Chopper. When our starters go 4 innings, the bullpen has to pitch the rest of the game. Our starting pitching injuries tax and deplete the bullpen, making it much worse. Its not rocket science, its common sense.
And you say Butcher should be fired. Im saying he shouldn’t be, and I clearly supported my argument, whereas you threw out wild accusations without backing them up. Anyone that can take 8 starting pitchers (3-11 on the organizational chart), and have them turn in exceptional start after exceptional start should not be fired because our bullpen is having a bad spell.
That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey
by anaheim angels on Apr 30, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
The WBC should be fired...
for screwing up Shields’ preparation for the season.
In a year of such turmoil, whining still abounds.
by Downing Rules on Apr 30, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah thats what I said
Why not fire Griffin & Ebel too. Since we made 2 outs at 3rd the other day & the infield defense has been shotty?
To suggest that firing Butcher because in each of the last few years one “regular” contributor in the bullpen has had a bad year is ridicules.
R.I.P. King Ad-Rock #34
I don't like Butcher. He's overrated.
That’s my stance and I’m sticking to it no matter how much I get flamed for it.
I understand that this is an Angel’s board, but you guys have rose tinted glasses on. Don’t get all pissy with me because I see things differently than you.
…and it’s “Ridiculous”
RIP Nick. We will miss you!
If it's any consolation...
I miss Bud Black as the Angels pitching coach. But, you can’t keep him as a pitching coach the rest of his life. Butcher is, IMHO, a step down from Buddy’s level.
In a year of such turmoil, whining still abounds.
by Downing Rules on May 1, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I just see your statement as an over reaction
The Angels have still had an elite staff since Butcher took over, I’m not getting pissy because I think your wrong. Like I said your statement looks like someone who is over reacting. I’m not saying Bud Black wasn’t better but I think your forgetting that Butcher spent six seasons (2000-05) in the Angels minor league system, serving as roving pitching instructor (2003-05) and minor league pitching coach (2000-02) so he helped develop of Lackey, Santana, Saunders, Arredondo, Weaver, K-Rod, etc… IMO it sounds like you have the “Eckstein Syndrome”
…Grammar stickler :-P
R.I.P. King Ad-Rock #34
you're right
I overreacted. I am just getting sick to my stomach watching our bullpen lose games.
Yeah, I’m a bit of a grammar nazi ;)
RIP Nick. We will miss you!
Anyone else think Reagins should have
signed 30 year old Juan Cruz for a million less than Oliver got. Granted this would have cost us our 2nd round pick.
April is over
9-12. It could be worse. In fact, it probably should be worse.
by Captain Awesome on Apr 30, 2009 7:27 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I just don't get why Figgy keeps getting wrapped up in the whol Aybar/ Wood thing.
He went 2-4 with a run and RBI.
He is by far our best leadoff hitter. He is a champion. Aybar bats 9th and plays short. Wood is not a leadoff hitter. He plays short. I agree that Wood needs to start ahead of Aybar, at least for a few weeks
by Big Bad, 'Vlad'! on Apr 30, 2009 8:08 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, same here
I think the point is that we have 3 similar type hitters in the lineup. But I agree, Figgins is definitely superior to the other two and should stay where he is.
Speier all the way
What good will it do to get our starting pitchers back if the bullpen keeps losing games?
As much as I think Aybar should not be starting...
…he manufactured a run out of thin air tonight. Turned a soft single to left into a double, then another one in the same spot became a run. That was nice.
I didn't read anyone else's comments above...
but, I think that Aybar’s 2B and subsequent hustle around the basepaths spell doom for Wood’s chances at cracking the lineup … at least for another week or so. Not that I agree, but it is what I think will happen.
In a year of such turmoil, whining still abounds.
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In a year of such turmoil, whining still abounds.
by Downing Rules on Apr 30, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
If Soth was willing to change things up a bit
Figgy in the OF, Aybar/MiceTits SS and Wood at 3B with Abreu or Rivera DHing until Vlad gets back works pretty good in my mind.
Figgy 3B
Kendrick 2B
Abreu RF
Hunter CF
K-Mo 1B
Naps C
Rivera LF
Wood 3B
Aybar/Izzy SS
That’s probably a better defensive team (Figgy can play the OF just fine and he runs circles around Juan and semicircles around Abreu) and I’d much rather have Wood hitting than Izzy or Aybar.
wow it's late
Figgy in LF/ Rivera as DH and that works
right now
i say GMJ> Rivera. not permanent, but put GMJ in RF, and Abreu at DH and i think that is better
That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey
by anaheim angels on May 1, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
This loss is on Mike
Again putting both Izzy and Aybar in the lineup, not putting Wood into bat for Izzy in the 8th against a lefty and then bringing Speier in to face 6 lefties in a row just when he is starting to get his confidence back. These are all dumb baseball moves. I don’t know what is happening, but Mike needs to be smarter than this. He’s not adapting at all and that is a bad sign.
Speier
And he was doing SO well. Hopefully a fluke.
Angel Pitching (Adenhart), Angel Defense - get past that.
well like Rycat said Soth put him in a situation he was doomed to fail in
Speier even when pitching well, lefties rake him compared to righties. Last year the difference was almost 300 points of OPS. Lefties almost him him to the tune of a 1000 OPS. Whereas Shields on the other hand does considerably better against lefties, but the Soth decided to take him out after ONLY 9 PITCHES when he was throwing strikes and having Eddings squeeze him.
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