why is Rod Carew #17 on all time Angels

by Ca1IFORNIA ANGELS on May 11, 2009 6:12 PM PDT

Rod Carew played seven years with the Angels, six times he was an All-Star as an Angel. First five years Rod hit over 300 and the last two hit 295 and 280. In comparison to Tim Salmon, how many years was he an All-Star. Plus how does an ANgel whose number is retired by the franchise #17 on all time Angels?

RevHalofan, or any fans have a stats on most All-Star appearances as an Angel? Im curious to know which Angel has had the most All-Stat appearances as An Angel.

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Because Rod Carew isn't half the Angel Timmy is

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by Carl Johnson on May 11, 2009 6:23 PM PDT reply actions

Say what?

I guess by this logic, Brendan Donnelly is a better all-time Angel than Tim Salmon, as he has more all-star appearances?

by Caseys Kiss of Death on May 11, 2009 6:29 PM PDT reply actions

Yeah, yeah, hell yeah

(-_-) zzz…

by eyespy on May 11, 2009 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Rod Carew was an all-star tfor e Angels based more on reputation than skill.

He was a relatively light hitting first baseman. His glory years were with Minnesota. This doesn’t diminish his efforts…just clarifies.
If Carew had spent his entire career with the Angels (as did Salmon) he’d probably rank in the top 3.

by sothball on May 11, 2009 6:33 PM PDT reply actions

follow up

haha, no come on, Donnelly does not have his number retired and is not in the Hall of Fame. Interesting baseball-reference.com states
“Tim Salmon, the greatest hitter the Angels system has ever produced, and the best player never to appear in an All-Star game. What Angel fan can forget his 2002 World Series Game 2 game-winner?”

by Ca1IFORNIA ANGELS on May 11, 2009 6:34 PM PDT reply actions

Yeah, that quote on BB-Ref...

is provided by the sponsor of the Tim Salmon page – Rob from a great Angel blog 6-4-2.

RIP Nick...

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by jimmuscomp on May 11, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions

wally Joyner? Are you kidding me

I agree, and can see why Salmon is in the top 5, as he is basically the Angel leader in all career stats but come on Wally Joyner? Please, he was great in 1986, Wally World, but thats it.

by Ca1IFORNIA ANGELS on May 11, 2009 6:37 PM PDT reply actions

This is why I feel

there should be a probation time on making/waisting fanposts, and fanshots.

by eyespy on May 11, 2009 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs

Seconded...

RIP Nick...

Jim Scully
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by jimmuscomp on May 11, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions

Wally Joyner was a much better Angel than Rod Carew

It’s not particularly close, either. Oh, and 1986 wasn’t remotely Wally’s best year.

by mattwelch on May 11, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Agreed

Carew was great, no doubt about it, but Joyner was far and away the better Angel

RIP Nick. We will miss you!

by KingF15h on May 12, 2009 5:21 AM PDT up reply actions

dude

if you gotta ask you will never really know let alone understand…

by Rev Halofan on May 11, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions

As far as Joyner vs Carew

This might help:

As Angels, Darin Erstad had .025 Win Shares per plate appearance as an Angel. Wally Joyner had .032 (Rod Carew had .028 and Don Baylor had .026 by comparison). So he was heads above those guys and carried the team in 1986 to the division title.

From Joyner’s entry in the 2008-2009 top 100.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on May 11, 2009 9:06 PM PDT reply actions

Zu coming to the rescue again

for someone to … to lazy to do the studies themselves.

by eyespy on May 11, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions

i am wondering if this Fan POst's author is...

A… a troll

B… a young teen

or worst

C… a no-life social-security-mooching senior with nothing better to do

by Rev Halofan on May 11, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions

the answer

An Angel Fan since 1979. 37 years old. When will Wally Joyner have his Angel Jersey retired? And why the sarcasm ? Just a legit question, as I heard you on the radio today, you like fans debating and not agreeing on your “website”

by Ca1IFORNIA ANGELS on May 11, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions

Good point. I love fans debating.

But you are not debating.

Debating requires making a case.

You are asking us to look up other all star numbers to bolster your case or to argue against your incomplete case.

Rod Carew – who wears a TWINS cap in the Hall of Fame – would be disappointed in your approach.

by Rev Halofan on May 12, 2009 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions

Rod Carew was an awesome Angel

I’m thinking he could be a couple of spots higher in the top 100.

Angel Pitching (Adenhart), Angel Defense - get past that.

by vladtheimpaler on May 12, 2009 3:37 AM PDT reply actions

it doesnt show up in stats

but Salmon was a much nicer guy and teammate than Carew as well. At least from my experiences and observances.

This bullpen collapses faster than the Austro-Hungarian Empire

by HaloDutch on May 12, 2009 8:59 AM PDT reply actions

Rod Carew was much-beloved by those of us who really were fans in those days. I remember being a kid in little league..he was my hero. Contrary to popular belief he didn’t ONLY hit singles. How many teams today would LOVE to have a Carew batting first in the line-up?

I honestly think he doesn’t rank higher in the minds of some around here is because of two reasons…his attitude after leaving the Angels wasn’t always the best, and a LOT of today’s Angels fans were NOT Angels fans when Carew played for the team. In today’s world of assigning a stat to even a player’s bowel movements, you can find all sorts of players who look better on paper. But those of us who were there remember one of the most dependable bats and best gloves the Angels ever had. His Jersey certainly belongs on that wall and I ALSO have wondered why he wasn’t ranked higher here.

by firebird81 on May 12, 2009 10:38 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs

Speaking as a comparative Carew-detractor...

…. I’ve been a fan since the Winston Llenas era, so there goes that theory. What’s more, our seats during Rodney’s tenure were just behind first base on the Field Level, so I had a box seat to watch his defense. Needless to say, this made me like him less.

by mattwelch on May 14, 2009 5:40 AM PDT up reply actions

Always room for debate

Sure, the case could be made that Carew could be ranked higher, especially since he spent a number of years as an Angels coach as well, at which time he lost his daughter to leukemia I believe. He was well liked but most Angels fans I think, but he is still remembered as a Twin by most baseball fans. However, I don’t think an argument can be made for anyone being #1 on the All-Time Angels list other than Tim Salmon. In fact, I would be most impressed by a convincing argument against this. His #15 should be retired soon enough (I hope).

by Rycat512 on May 12, 2009 12:00 PM PDT reply actions