GA and steroids?

You could find plenty of such “evidence” for steroids in 1996, 1987, 1977, 1970, 1961, 1950, and 1936, for starters. Go ahead and look, then get back to us about the juicers during FDR’s heyday.

you would have a case. but it is not and you don’t.

skinny legs and thighs for couple of years, then thick thighs and then he is not a singles hitter any more. Wins the HR contest in all-star weekend

They ALL look like close to that, with some variations depending on whether the player is a MAJOR HR king, or Reggie Willits.

If you had the results for years 2004, 2005 and 2006 go UP, then would you have a case.

for major leaguers. get off of it.

trying to beat the bushes for the next roid rager. When do we get to just get back to the game? What are you getting out of this?

then only 3 in 08. That’s like exponentially different. Steroids perhaps?

that GA credited his spike in home runs to mo vaughn convincing him to use a heavier bat. cant remember where i heard it though

What a ridiculous post

… and what about Downing? One day he shows up and he’s all bulked up and shit. And Tony Gwynn SUDDENLY hits 24 HR? I’m being sarcastic here, but the truth is we’ll never know who was taking the juice and who wasn’t.

When retired players who think they should be getting in the Hall of Fame start coming up short in the voting and they see others get in who have lesser stats, they’ll start singing like birds if they have information. This is such a long way from over … Canseco is just the edge of the wedge.

Boring

He worked as hard as anyone did off the field. And, so what if he didn’t dive? And if anyone thinks he didn’t care, or didn’t want to be there, well, you’re stupid. Just because somebody doesn’t smile all the time doesn’t mean they’re not happy to be there…

Just my two cents…

And it will probably start an uproar…

So I’m prepared…

The man started out in his young career with not too much power, which escalated and plateaued right around the 27-30 age range, and then he began to decline in power and health toward the end of his career. THAT BASTARD MUST HAVE BEEN ON ’ROIDS! HOW ELSE TO EXPLAIN THIS SO-CALLED “PEAK” THAT OCCURRED IN THE MIDST OF HIS CAREER! IT MAKES NO SENSE OTHERWISE!

I always did say that Mike Bordick was a ’roid-rager….

AG HR Name (2nd highest total)
23 47 Troy Glaus (41)
24 18 Terrence Long (16)
25 32 Brad Fullmer (19)
26 41 Tony Batista (32)
26 25 Darin Erstad (19)
26 21 Shannon Stewart (13)
26 20 Mark Quinn (17)
27 17 Scott Spiezio (16)
28 35 Garret Anderson (29)
28 31 Charles Johnson (20)
29 42 Jason Giambi (41)
29 34 Carl Everett (28)
29 30 Bobby Higginson (27)
30 14 Brook Fordyce (9)
31 30 Bernie Williams (29)
32 43 Frank Thomas (42)
33 21 Gerald Williams (17)
33 20 Darrin Fletcher (17)
33 15 Kenny Lofton (14)
34 41 David Justice (40)
34 20 Mike Bordick (14)
37 37 Edgar Martinz (29)

2000 was the second-homeringist season in American League history. Jumping to steroid conclusions based on spike-year numbers is quite a bit less than rigorous.

Not just because of the spike in power.

Not just because of the sudden onset of a series of injuries.

But also because if you look at GA, he also got a lot smaller once testing in earnest began. I think it’s reasonable to question anyone and everyone who played during the “steroid era” because you just don’t know.

AG GA G/HR SG G/HR
23 106 16 96 9
24 150 12 114 8
25 154 8 156 21
26 156 15 160 18
27 157 21 162 13
28 159 35 162 33
29 161 28 162 21
30 158 29 162 28
31 159 29 163 26
32 112 14 110 10
33 142 17 162 16
34 141 17 100 14
35 108 16 161 8
36 145 15 162 17
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To sum up:

• Through age 27, both had shown sporadic, medium power, with G.A. hitting 72 home runs and Garvey hitting 78.
• At age 28, both set career highs in homers, G.A. with 35, Garv with 33.
• From 29-31, while playing every day, both managed the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th highest home-run totals in their careers, with G.A. averaging 29 a year and Garvey 25.
• From 32-36, both declined, with a combination of injuries and power shortage. G.A. hit 79 homers over these five years, Garvey 65.

I look forward to your penetrating analysis of how Garvey’s numbers suggest he was on the juice.

Look at G.A.’s 2000 OPS…not exactly eyepopping.