Wednesday Lunch Thread

by Rev Halofan on Jun 10, 2009 11:00 AM PDT in Pregame

Angels Vs. Rays - 4:08 PM: John Lackey @ Jeff Niemann

For your LUNCH discussion... A short history of Angel Compensation Picks:

Yesterday:

Randal Grichuk and Tyler Skaggs were drafted by the Angels as compensation from the Mets for Francisco Rodriguez

Mike Trout and Garett Richards were drafted by the Angels as compensation from the Yankees for Mark Teixeira.

Tyler Kehrer was drafted by the Angels as compensation from the Diamondbacks for Jon Garland.

First Round Compensation Picks
Hank Conger: from Indians for Paul Byrd (2006)
Chris Bootcheck: from A's for Mike Magnante (2000)
Roberto Hernandez: from Orioles for Juan Beniquez (1986)
Terry Carr: From Yankees for Al Holland (1986)
Mike Cook: from Orioles for Fred Lynn (1985)

Mike Cook was traded for Bert Blyleven, who was awesome for just over 500 innings as an Angel. We traded Hernandez for nothing and he went on to have a long career. Other than that, these have been busts. Bootcheck was never even league average in the 77 games over parts of 5 seasons he pitched here. We will see what happens with Conger, but it makes suffering thru those seasons of Hector Carrasco a little easier (Carrasco was signed by Angels GM Bill Stoneman instead of re-upping with Byrd).

1st Sandwich Round
Trevor Bell: from Tigers for Troy Percival (2005)
Jeff Mathis: from Rangers for Mark Petkovsek (2001)
Jeff Schmidt: from Royals for Wally Joyner (1992)
Jorge Fabregas: from Twins for Chili Davis (1991)
David Holdridge: from A's for Reggie Jackson (1987)
Mike Fetters: from Orioles for Juan Beniquez (1986)
Daryl Green: from Yankees for Al Holland (1986)
Dennis Rasmussen: from Astros for Nolan Ryan (1980)

Holdridge was traded one-for-one to the Philies for Lance Parrish - one of the 5 best catcher in Angels history! Fabregas yielded us Chad Kreuter and Tony Phillips (not bad at all). Fetters yielded us Chuck Crim (bad trade). Rasmussen was a league average pitcher for 12 seasons with a great 1986 campaign where he won 18 games... but he did it for the Padres, we had traded him in 1982 as the player to be named later for Tommy John who kinda helped at the end of 1982 for us, than was league average in '83 and '84 before being released early in 1985.

2nd Round Compensation Picks
Ryan Mount: from Tigers for Troy Percival (2005)
Chris Smith: from Royals for Wally Joyner (1992)
Marquis Riley: from White Sox for Kirk McCaskill (1991)
Mike Erb: from A's for Reggie Jackson (1987)

Mount is good right now in the minors. None of the others ever even made the show.

3rd Round Compensation Picks
Steven Shell: from Rangers for Mark Petkovsek (2001)
Chris Collins: from Orioles for Don Aase (1985)
Wally Joyner: from Yankees for Don Baylor (1983)

Nothing here except, oh, the 9th greatest Angel in franchise history... Holy SheeYITE!

RESULTS:

CURRENTLY: Compensation picks have given us three of our current top prospects and our current backup catcher.

'00s: Earlier this decade they gave us a not-good middle reliever.

'80s and '90s: Compensation picks in our farm system yielded us Top 100 Angels Bert Blyleven Lance Parrish and Tony Phillips. And Wally Frackin Joyner.

We squandered most of our picks form the 1980s, as Hernandez, Rasmussen and Fetters would not only go on to have decent, long major league careers, but they yielded quite a bit in trades for their respective teams on many occasions.

The 9th greatest player in Angels history, however was acquired as a compensation pick, so the Angels can be seen as having an overall success from this bit of baseball minutiae which, if you have read this far, confirms your status as a total baseball nerd.

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Nerd...even looked up some of the prospects mentioned here...

Ryan Mount doesnt seem like he’ll see the big show. Batting 261. in AA. Batted 251. a year ago in Single A.

Doesnt that translate to 089. BA in the big leagues?

Do it for Nick '09

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jun 10, 2009 12:53 PM PDT reply actions

Doesn't always translate that way

Mike Napoli hit .237 in AA

by CanyonLakeHalo on Jun 10, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm a baseball nerd

and my wife would agree!

by Monkeyspanked on Jun 10, 2009 1:37 PM PDT reply actions

Why draft Jake Locker?

I thought I just heard 10th round and I don’t get it, can somebody help me out?

by Wytelitning on Jun 10, 2009 2:08 PM PDT reply actions

it is called

GAMBLING.

Don’t take Eddie Bane to Vegas.

by Rev Halofan on Jun 10, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions

I guess I would use my draft picks on baseball players...

I understand that quarterback is the most important position in sports, but this is pretty ridiculous. Has he made a statement yet?

by Wytelitning on Jun 10, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Second we drafted him.

Play Wood already. Willits sucks.

by hauldog on Jun 10, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions

Here you go. This is why.

It makes a lot of sense

Locker speaks

Play Wood already. Willits sucks.

by hauldog on Jun 10, 2009 2:52 PM PDT reply actions

Cool, thanks...

I really had no idea you could retain a guy for six years. No reason why you wouldn’t take a shot on an athlete of this caliber.

Get the deal done Halos!

by Wytelitning on Jun 10, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions

I always find it more fun to look at the list of players that we passed over to make picks.

I realize that picking is little more than qualified dart throwing while blindfolded, but I still see it as some fun metric for scouting.

Kind of like: “WHAT?!? You telling me that you could not locate and review and realize that so-and-so had enough solid talent to become a big leaguer? Ok, you didn’t know he was going to be a superstar. But, really, you couldn’t figure out that he had a better chance to make it out of A ball than that so-and-so you had us select who never did?”

We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.

by Stirrups on Jun 10, 2009 3:32 PM PDT reply actions