Here you go. I’ll save you some time and quote S-Rod’s figures:

Real EqA: .298
Translated EqA: .293
Peak EqA: .291

BP’s best guess for how S-Rod would do in a major league lineup right this second is .249 /.323 / .579. That’s a .902 OPS. That’s some crazy isolated power; an ISO of .330 would put him fourth in the major leagues, just behind Adrian Gonzalez and ahead of Carlos Pena. Sean has done really, really well at AAA, but I would have to think BP’s projection of his slugging percentage is a little optimistic.

Just for kicks, here’s Brandon Wood.

Real EqA: .299
Translated EqA: .291
Peak EqA: .303

Pretty much the same story as Sean, he projects to .260 / .333 / .562 (.895 OPS). That would also be pretty good production, better than what the Angels would get from Izturis. But Izturis has proved he can hit major league pitching. Wood and Rodriguez are worth a shot, but I’m definitely glad the Angels have a competent 2B in Izturis if neither of them does very well.

im pretty sure im the guy who said he needs time to develop
not the one who expects immediate success. But ok.

My post was in haste (post haste?) and wasn’t meant as a direct response to you. Rather, it was to the expectation that this offense, which is clearly struggling, would be remedied by placing Sean Rodriguez in as starting 2B.

Personally, I would like to see the veteran Izturis in the near term, let Rodriguez get some starts and work him into the lineup, rather than tossing him into the deep end of the pool and see if he can swim.

The McPherson comment was in reply to the idea that Scioscia never lets a rookie have a chance. Likewise, Kendrick was basically handed 2B when the team let Kennedy depart at the end of his contract.

Morales was brought up deliberately, but he was playing behind Kotchman, then Teixeira. Aybar and Izturis were the replacements of Cabrera, and Figgins has basically blocked anyone at 3B. With the OF stocked with high-salaried vets, it isn’t as if there are a lot of circumstances to point to in regards to Scioscia holding back any rookies.

Again, look at the game logs from 2005 and 2006. When Dallas played, he was given the lion’s share of ABs and played almost every day. But he went down with injury when summer hit in both seasons.

You have to tell the full story, not just abstract the OPS years after the fact. The organization all but handed McPherson third base in 2005, just like they handed Kotch 1B in 2007 and 2008, and then handed Kendrick 2B in 2008 and 2009, and handed Morales 1B in 2009.

But most of these players had the injury bug, and Dallas was the worst.

This is how bad institutional narratives are created. I wonder if years from now, if Kendrick burns out in AAA and fades away, fans will be talking about how the organization didn’t play Kendrick because they favored “mighty midget” Izturis.

I mean fans have already forgotten that the reason Kendrick received 186 ABs this season, while hitting poorly, is because he hit .306 in 340 ABs in 2008 and .322 in 338 ABs in 2007….not because Scioscia and the organization favors sub .700 OPS hitters.

I think when looked at objectively, it’s easy to see that the Angels have (1) tried to give a number of homegrown rookies at age 22-24 a chance on this club, (2) that most of them stumbled because of injury or underperformace, and (3) the organizational tolerance of about 200 ABs to sink or float each season is a reasonable benchmark.

They gave McPherson, Kendrick and Kotchman more rope than they gave Alfonzo, Hillenbrand or even Izturis. Izturis has 70 fewer ABs than Kendrick this season. Sure, he has less upside, and the fact that Scioscia has played him less shows he recognizes this, but Izzy also is a remarkably steady and consistent player who hits well with RISP and generally gets the job done at defense. I don’t think the organization has really overused him more than he merits.

he never found his groove due to severe injuries and still managed to put up pretty much a league average OPS. If the Angels were getting that out of SS and 2B, their lineup would look pretty good then IMO.

(Responding to both this post, and that above.) All this really shows is that the organizational performance for underperformance runs to about 150-200 ABs.

Hillenbrand only received 197 ABs when he was here in 2007, and that was while McPherson was on the 60-day DL with back problems. In that light, Edgardo Alfonzo, who was summarily dismissed after only 50 ABs, was indeed regarded with high skepticism. McPherson received more than twice as many ABs in the same season (2006), and received 205 ABs the prior season (2005)

There’s a lot of selective memory and historical revisionism happening here re: McPherson. He was in the lineup almost everyday for a two-month span in early 2005, even though he came into ST with a bad back and missed most of it, then went on the DL in early July with a bad hip. The guy was riddled with injuries — he wasn’t just neglected by the organization. In fact, the organization dispensed with Glaus (a very unpopular move at the time in many quarters) to give 3B to Dallas in 2005, but he had trouble staying on the field and taking it.

Same thing happened in 2006. He stumbled into the season with nagging injuries, played in May and June, then went on the DL again. At the same time, he showed enough promise in those short spans to build a lot of fan mythology around him that has persisted to this day.

But the facts remain clear: The organization didn’t fully embrace McPherson not because Small Ball Scioscia favors “midgets,” but because he was a chronic injury case, because he couldn’t hit breaking stuff, his strikeout rate was legendary, and he couldn’t hit lefties.

This isn’t “hating on” McPherson, but just looking at him objectively in a historical context. His 2005 and 2006 sprints were cut short due to injury, not managerial selection. And his career averages show that he has a .176 avg (.515 OPS) against LHPs, and he has struck out in more than 1 in 3 major league ABs. I could show you some scary zone charts that would confirm his trouble with hitting soft and moving targets, but I don’t think it’s worth the work. The fact is, McPherson just doesn’t have the full profile and package of a major league hitter. Other clubs have figured that out as well now. That sucks for the Angels and us, but it wasn’t any managerial fetish for mediocrity that made that so; it was back luck and McPherson himself.

And you bring up Q’s only time in AAA when he really did anything close to what you’d want a ML caliber prospect doing.

In 2003 he had 421 ABs in AAA with a 797 OPS in 94 AB in the Majors it was 702 OPS.

Then in 2004 he had 122 AB’s in AAA with a 831 OPS and 177 in Anaheim with a 926 OPS.

Of course I’m not saying Wood or S-Rod will do the same or even better in Anaheim than they have in AAA but Q doesn’t show anywhere near the decrease that you are alluding to.

Notice when I talked about McPherson I said his LOW OPS. His low ops was still respectable and of course he had major flaws, and he was bad against lefties but that just means he had to be all the better against righties to get his overall numbers to right around league average. I’m in complete agreement though that McPherson was derailed by injuries. I just used his numbers in the majors to show that they are still even with all the flaws better than what a lot of guys we currently have playing.