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TRADE DEADLINE: 42 Days and Counting

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42 Days and 10 Hours until the dreaded trade deadline is reached.  As  the minutes pass to hours- hours to days, what moves if any do you see the Angels making.  Do we land one more starting pitcher?  Do we bolster up our anemic bullpen?  Are we buyers?  Are we sellers?  Is Reagins the ninja we all thought he was, or is Arte going to pull the reigns back a little?  Lets talk about what moves they make to better the team this year and the moves they make to better the team next year.

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It doesn't look like they'll be doing much

I mean Aybar is a good trade piece but who would we get in return? We don’t have a whole lot of spots we need to fill in that lineup.

The bullpen does need help but seems that its been finding it’s groove lately. Starting rotation is fantastic.

I still think we should trade Matthews, get some prospects in return, and pay a portion of his contract.

I just don’t know who we would be interested trading for.

I do think that Matt Holiday will be on the Angels sooner or later, however. But I’m not thinking this year. Maybe during the offseason.

by TheAntiSox on Jun 18, 2009 11:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

This season just seems jinxed. If it can go wrong, it does

by Moondoggy on Jun 18, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but isn't he kind of a jack--s?

I thought I heard he had some rather unkind comments for us, esp. after the ALDS last year…?

RIP Nick Adenhart.

"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5

by Clutch on Jun 18, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had unkind words for us after the ALDS!!

This season just seems jinxed. If it can go wrong, it does

by Moondoggy on Jun 19, 2009 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holliday

Not to mention his numbers aren’t…helping his cause. I’m not saying he sucks, I’d take him, sure, but leaving that Colorado Launching pad didn’t do him any favors.

Self-realization. I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "I drank what?"

The Geek.

by The OC Sports Geek on Jun 18, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Without question.

Bay is the best free agent target. An OF of Bay, Hunter and Rivera is quite solid.

by Turks Teeth on Jun 18, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Problem is..

who plays right? Neither Bay nor Rivera is even a good left fielder…either one in right would be a disaster of Vladi-demic proportions..

by statlr on Jun 18, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well if he plays for us

then that is one less Angel killer to worry about.

"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana

by Chzburger Jones on Jun 21, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In that case

Can we trade for Curtis Grandersen and Kevin Youkilis

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jun 22, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I might have to temporarily abandon the team if we got Youk

Too many years of built of hatred built up around that dude….

Do it for Nick '09

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jun 22, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

Bay has a nice solid swing and has good pop. While he K’s more than Torii, Bay has walked 44 times. Yes, 44 times. In addition to that, he’s a career .282 hitter, which is good, not great. That being said, his OBP in his career is very good, at . 377. Also, if he were to play as many games in the OF as Torii has had in his career so far, Bay would only have 5 less Assists. So all in all, he’d be great for the Halos, considering he gets 14 mil a year TOPS

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by vlad IS my man on Jun 18, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wanted Bay while he was in Pitt,

and I still want him now. He’s turning 31 this Sept. which would make him the young’n in the OF, 3 months younger than Rivera. If we let Abreu and Vlad go (and Figgins didn’t move to OF), we’d still have a great OF.

Keep those hammies limber, boys.

by Rally Manatee on Jun 19, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

 Bay is another player that fits the Angels style of ball,though he would be a guy that should knock out 25-30 playing in LA..
 Bay plays real hard and plays right…The only question is if he wants to leave Boston and sign in LA…What is a Bay looking at FA wise,he looks like he will have strong numbers going into FA..
 Bay was raised ijn Trail BC so he should be welcome to playing on the West Coast !

by raven191 on Jun 21, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the idea of trading Aybar for some relief pitching

I don’t have any players in mind, I’m just tossing out an idea.

Sadly, I don’t see it happening. Aybar is going nowhere. It’s pretty obvious that he’s the SS next year with Wood taking over at 3B. Why we wouldn’t keep Figgins is beyond me, but that must be the plan. Why else would Aybar AND Izzy be on the team instead of Wood??

Hmmm. Maybe Figgy is in play? Trade him before he becomes a FA?

RIP Nick. We will miss you!

by KingF15h on Jun 18, 2009 12:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Figgins is currently a Type A free agent after this season.

We lose two sweet draft picks if we trade him this season. We get more overall if we let him walk in the offseason.

We’d have to get a lot back in trade if we’re going to lose two draft picks, plus lose the team hit and run leader in the process.

by Turks Teeth on Jun 18, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

smart post...

thanks turks….

Do it for Nick '09

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jun 18, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But that requires us to offer him arbitration

What happens if he accepts? I believe someone noted that Figgy’s exactly the type of player that completely falls off the table at around 31 or 32…and that’s next year!

RIP Nick Adenhart.

"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5

by Clutch on Jun 18, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't get me wrong guys

I love Figgy. I think he’s one of the best lead off men in the game today, and I want us to resign him. I’m just playing Devil’s advocate here…

RIP Nick. We will miss you!

by KingF15h on Jun 19, 2009 6:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree.

We traded Cabrera after a gold glove season with high offensive #‘s. Why is it "obvious that he’s the SS next year?" Is anything obvious with Reagins? I think Aybar is grade-A trade bait, especially because he’s been settling down on defense and picking it up at the plate, and he has not been deemed untouchable by Sosh.

Keep those hammies limber, boys.

by Rally Manatee on Jun 19, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Concur.

His market rate right now is highest among all infielders not named Morales.
1) HK needs to restore the original faith in his ability to compete at the MLB level.
2) Izzy is a known quality, with no further upside (albeit a GREAT utility infielder IMHO).
3) Figgy is in his walk year.
4) Q remains stuck being Rob Quinlan.
5) SRod and Wood are all promise, unproven, and probably not going anywhere.

If you want quality back, you are going to have to consider leading with Aybar in your package. And, unless Aybar IS your future at SS, you may never have a higher sale value for him than right now.

The other side of your equation, however, is how badly the market needs a defensive SS with fair to middling offensive skills.

We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.

by Stirrups on Jun 19, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Q remains stuck being Rob Quinlan.

There are worse things to be stuck as…

1. You make $1.5M (or so)
2. You have ahot wife

Angels fan since '67

by red floyd on Jun 19, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking maybe we could package Aybar to San Diego for Heath Bell.

The Padres will undoubtedly be sellers and they have coveted Aybar. They need a SS badly. It seems like a good fit for me. Heath Bell would add stability in that bullpen for the bridge to Fuentes.

"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana

by Chzburger Jones on Jun 22, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That in interesting.

But with all they asked for for Peavy, I don’t think they will let Bell slip away much easier.

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by matthiasstephan on Jun 23, 2009 5:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heath Bell and Adrian Gonzales

For Howie Kendrick, Erik Aybar, Gary Matthews Jr., Shane Loux, Kevin Jepsen, and Matt Brown straight up.

:P

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jun 23, 2009 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Gonzales was the deal-breaker last time.

Keep it simple, I say, and it might get done.

Bell has been nails this year, and could really replace Shields (even good Shields), putting Dondo back to the 7th inning role he excelled in last year (if he can figure it out again).

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by matthiasstephan on Jun 23, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was joking...

I thought the :P was to note sarcasm. Dang it.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jun 23, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right.

Because Arredondo’s struggles were due to pitching in a different inning.

:P <——— sarcasm tongue

by dmhead on Jun 24, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Rev.

I wasn’t thinking about the new folks.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jun 18, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

THANK YOU

See that kind of thing way too often.

Witty .sig goes here.

by scareduck on Jun 19, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Thanks

For Piling On.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jun 19, 2009 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wel get draft picks for Figgins

In a nutshell, I am of the opinion that we should not trade anyone from the major league team. Here is why. Next year well get draft picks for Figgins, Lackey, Vlad, Darren Oliver and someone else that I cant remember right now. We could have 10 picks in the first two rounds if we want.

dont marry the bank teller

by jockoautry on Jun 18, 2009 1:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to go out on a limb

But I think Oliver is going to retire at the end of the year. His age is growing and he’s having a hard time finding the strike zone.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jun 18, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At the moment, Vlad and Lackey are falling out of Type A status.

Based on time on the field, which they’ve been spending less and less of.

At this point, trading Vlad or Lackey might be more productive than shopping a Figgins or Abreu, both of whom have Type A status at the moment.

by Turks Teeth on Jun 18, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, you've got a thing with me, don't you?

That’s too bad. Don’t be so thin-skinned. We could actually be pals if you could tone down the snip, and we’ve certainly gotten along fairly well in different forum contexts under other aliases.

If you think Vlad is going to stay on the field the rest of the season and improve, great! But as of now, I think my assessment holds: at this moment, he would not be a Type A free agent, nor would Lackey, given his ERA, and his significant DL stints the past two seasons.

If you have counter-evidence, by all means, dole it out. I’ll happily listen.

by Turks Teeth on Jun 18, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

I don’t really know or care who you are, or what people change their aliases to, etc. Just pointing out that “falling out” and “spending less and less” are inaccurate. The correct terms are “fallen out” and “spending more and more.” As in, both were hurt and not playing earlier this year, and so fell off the A list; but both are now playing, and so there’s every reason to suspect they’ll make A by the end of the year.

by mattwelch on Jun 19, 2009 6:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Draft picks, shmaft picks

I’m not exactly sure what arcane statistical criteria the Elias people use to determine the top 20% of all players at a given position… maybe it’s a combination of evening gown and swimsuit scores… but if Vlad and Lack produce solidly for the remaining 2/3 of the season, Type A status seems kind of a given, no? (Vlad was a .300/25 guy last year… maybe Lackey less so… he only pitched 160 innings.)

In any case, who gives a shit? You shouldn’t shape your trade policy on draft picks, because 1) Any compensatory pick cannot, by definition, be in the top half of the round, where all the choicest, most ML-probable talent resides, and 2) a 32-year-old, somewhat-worn-down Lackey probably will still give us more good innings than, what?, the next David Holdridge?

We had five first round and sandwich picks in ’86 and a what a choice crop of nothingness that turned out to be.

by GrichManPoorMan on Jun 19, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Draft picks are dependent upon offering arbitration

We are not going to offer arbitration to Vlad. He is making $15M this year, and you almost always get at least 80% of your salary from the prior season. In other words, Vlad would be virtually guaranteed $12M from the Angels in arbitration. As Vlad is not worth $12M per season, he would accept, meaning we would get no draft picks, but rather an old and expensive Vlad (again).

It is not quite as clear how the process would play out with Figgy and Lackey. Figgy is making $5.775M this year, and he is proving to be worth it. He probably could get a 2 or 3-year deal as a free agent for roughly $5M per season. So if we offered him arbitration, there is at least a good chance that he would decline that offer, in which case we would get draft picks. If he accepted the offer, we would be getting relatively good value for him, especially if he continues at his current level. On the down side, Wood would still be searching for a spot in the lineup.

Lackey, meanwhile, is making $9M this season. That is probably less than his fair market value, assuming that he can maintain his health for an entire season and return to his 2007 form. Those are real question marks, but given what AJ Burnett got last season, I still would expect Lackey to receive a multi-year contract on the free agent market. Thus, if we were to offer him arbitration, I believe that he would decline it, meaning we would get draft picks. The only way I could see him accepting it is if he pitched poorly this year, in which case I would hesitate to take him back at $8-9M, or if he decided that he wanted a one-year deal so that he could prove his worth and re-test the market in 2010. That could be a win-win for both sides.

by Brody on Jun 20, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not so sure we wouldn't offer Vlad arb

$12 mil is a lot, but not necessarily for one year, especially when you’re talking about a guy who hits like Frank Robinson. I’d rather give Vladdie a series of one-year arb deals than a long-term contract, so that the maximum number of years you pay for his collapse is one.

Figgy probably wouldn’t accept arb, given that Wood will almost certainly start at 3B next year. Lackey wouldn’t accept arb, and it’s doubtful Abreu would after already putting in his cheap one-year deal.

I’m guessing three of those four walk, and we get a half-dozen more top-60 draft picks as a result.

by mattwelch on Jun 20, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you regarding Lackey and Figgy

I indicated as much in my post. I would love to re-sign Abreu to a 2-year deal unless, as suggested above, we could sign Jason Bay, which I doubt.

I do not, however, want to sign Vlad to any contract that is a) more than 1 year, and b) more than $2.5M – $5M (which reflects the range between GA’s contract with the Braves and Abreu’s contract with us). I do not think that Vlad is worth more than that at this point in his career. So, while arbitration would be consistent with 1 year, it would in my view pay him way too much for that one year of service.

by Brody on Jun 20, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Angels could...

Dangle guys like Freddy Sandoval, Terry Evans, Matt Brown and see what kind of return we could get. It seems like these guys are never really gonna get a good shot here so maybe?

by Monkeyspanked on Jun 18, 2009 1:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah, teams REALLY WANT these players...

Who doesnt want the an injured player or a two guys who struggle to keep their BA in the PCL above 230…

NO.

Do it for Nick '09

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jun 18, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on dude, comment out of line and you are wrong

You are so quick to blast people.

Actually, I think Monkey made some good suggestions. Who would want Matt Brown? He hit .320 with 21 HRs last year…Now he’s playing first and making himself more versatile. I would argue he has a lot of value. Especially since we have a packed infield in Anaheim.

Sandoval? He plays just about any position, is actually a .305 hitter this year. He hit .335 last year. He has value too.

And Evans is a good all around OF’er too.

I like all three of these players better than say, GMJ or Q.

Try to see people’s viewpoints before you starting typing in all caps and blasting them.

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

by hk47 on Jun 19, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sandoval definitely has value...

but hes injured. Plus, hes super young and I personally hope he doesn’t get traded.

Brown and Evans? Maybe Brown has potential but hes not helping his value at all this season. Also, I dont see value in Evans.

First Evans is will be 27 in January. Not old but he should be hitting his peak anytime. That being said, the guy seems to be getting worse. His best year in SLC was 2007 where he posted a 317 BA. but even then he struck out 119 times in 120 games. Hes well on his way to passing that mark this year if he stays healthy. He seems like an overall average-good minor leaguer which equals…bench player in the majors…maybe? So who wants this?

Do it for Nick '09

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jun 19, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And

Evans would start on a handful of other major league clubs. Matt Brown is a big upgrade over Robb F’n Quinlan. Sandoval is a solid talent. I could part with him though as it appears he’ll never get an opportunity considering the pieces we already have in place.

by matt92130 on Jun 21, 2009 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

how about holding onto figgy and deal...

howie w/some blocked prospects like evans, wilson, sandoval, brown for a young pitcher and get the draft pick compensation for lackey. keep figgy and start him @2b w/srod as an insurance policy because it will be hard to replace a lead-off guy w/the versatility of figgy

by thejd on Jun 18, 2009 1:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

In this week's SI

they say we are scouting Huston Street, who has been breaking the bad start he started with…

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by vlad IS my man on Jun 18, 2009 2:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Huston Street would be a great pick up.

But who do we send to Colorado for Street? I know that the Rockies could use help on the corners.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jun 18, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brown?

This season just seems jinxed. If it can go wrong, it does

by Moondoggy on Jun 18, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quinlan?

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Jun 18, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody wants Brown..

dude is batting like 220.

Do it for Nick '09

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jun 18, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

see above comment

he’s got a lot more value than you think

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

by hk47 on Jun 19, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

why?

because he did well LAST year and can play the corners. I feel like most 3B/1B can switch it up…hell figgy could probably play first if it wasnt for the fact hes so small.

Do it for Nick '09

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jun 19, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, he's underperforming this year

but he had a great Olympics, he was fantastic last year. I think he’s got some value. He’s hitting .222 right now, but has been hitting a lot better lately. I don’t think a guy with his potential is going to hit .222 for long.

I think we both agree the Angels/Bees are overstocked in the IF and Monkey’s point was valid in that he advocated trading some of the IF depth for bullpen help.

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

by hk47 on Jun 19, 2009 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed.

sorry if i seemed to be jumping on peeps!

Do it for Nick '09

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jun 20, 2009 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's all good, no prob

okay to disagree, because we’re passionate about baseball. Just being nice about it helps a lot.

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

by hk47 on Jun 20, 2009 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They will not take scrubs

Colorado will want Wood or Reckling or Bell for Street. We’re going to have to give something to get a quality player in return.

by mustard_man on Jun 18, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, i disagree...

They wont want scrubs but I am pretty sure we can get Street without dishing top prospects.

Do it for Nick '09

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jun 18, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would be shocking

if you were right when all evidence points to the fact that people want our best if they are giving up something to help us fill a need.

by Rev Halofan on Jun 18, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts are going off of the Kotchman-Texieria trade...

Yes, we didnt keep Tex. However, Kotch plus Marek doesnt equal Tex and I think EVERYONE at the time thought that we got the good end of the deal…at the time.

I feel like we could get away with doing the same with Street, whose frankly, I would trade Kotch and Marek for right now if we still had em and feel pretty good about it to boot!

Point being…if we got away with getting Tex for Kotch and Marek then we could get away with getting Street for even less…

Do it for Nick '09

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jun 19, 2009 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read on MLBTR

That, true to form, they’re asking for Wood.

This is another big reason we need to give Wood a chance. As somebody mentioned the other day, once it’s obvious to other teams that Wood has a starting role on our team and isn’t going anywhere, a la Evan Longoria, they’ll stop asking for him. I’m not saying that Wood is Evan Longoria, just that that was a similar situation. Or perhaps like how every team wanted us to give them Kendrick until the Halos finally made him the starter and said he wasn’t going anywhere.

The Halos’ trade problems since roughly 2006 will thus be solved, at least in part. It will no longer be the case that all trades Reagins/Stoneman proposes (except for a few—here’s looking at you, Teix!) fail because every team asks for Wood as a starting point.

RIP Nick Adenhart.

"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5

by Clutch on Jun 18, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he's as valuable as you think he is

just my two cents

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

by hk47 on Jun 19, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

by hk47 on Jun 19, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

RIP Nick Adenhart.

"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5

by Clutch on Jun 18, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welch comes out of his cave to defend HK...

even when his boy is in AAA in a 1 for 8 slump…BALLS, MATT.

okay hardly a slump…but still 0-5 against Colorado Springs??

Do it for Nick '09

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jun 19, 2009 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

1-8 and he's slumping???

If you didn’t mean that you have a delete button on your computer… And I think Colorado Springs is in 1st place if that means something…

#34

by stuck in Romania on Jun 19, 2009 5:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sarcasm....learn it, love it.

obviously, im joking when i saw 1 for 8 is a slump.

Althought for the record, even pachett got two hits that game.

Do it for Nick '09

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jun 19, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was not OBVIOUS

if it had been OBVIOUS there would have been no confusion.

by Rev Halofan on Jun 19, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

by hk47 on Jun 22, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some people really dont like HK

I dont think it would be too much of a stretch for someone to call that slump. Shit, ESPN had me believe A-Rod was in a “slump” just yesterday. That word is vague that it can mean whatever you want it to (even 1-8). If you really want to drive your sarcasm home, just use the emoticon :d …done…finitio.

RIP #34

by linkbruin on Jun 22, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

love me some Welch....

smartest guy on this site. Wish he ran it actually…

Do it for Nick '09

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jun 20, 2009 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know you hate HK, but you're giving up on the guy that quick?

I’m not sure Street is that good.

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

by hk47 on Jun 19, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't remember the guys name.

But I heard on Jeff Biggs’ show that we’re also looking at LaTroy Hawkins.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jun 19, 2009 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ive heard john grabow of the pirates name mentioned

not sure if anyone else has brought his name up here, but i dont know if i would like that move or not. seems like he could be speier part 2

#34 Nick Adenhart Will Always Be Remembered

by Sorbo182 on Jun 18, 2009 4:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

His numbers are not great

Play Wood already. Willits sucks.

by hauldog on Jun 18, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would be suprised if the team makes a move at all.......

I just dont think its gonna happen……..

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 18, 2009 4:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd be happy with that.

This team is starting to gel, and I still think the bullpen will settle down. I still say the wheels came off last year when they traded Kotchman and I’d hate to see that happen again.

In the offseason, things may change… but for now I like the team as is. Maybe I’d like to see Aybar swapped for Wood, but that’s not a trade deadline type of action.

by thetooth on Jun 18, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or from the WS...see 2005

Thanks again, Doug Eddings!

RIP Nick Adenhart.

"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5

by Clutch on Jun 18, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How About Edward Mujica from the Pads?

   Probably get him for something reasonable.
  4:1 K:BB ratio, and a 2.16 ERA.
    That is something we need, a strike thrower. almost a K per inning, and less hits per inning. He could take the place of one of our 4A fill ins.

by Big Bad, 'Vlad'! on Jun 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't dread the trade deadline at all.

I think it is one of the more exciting times of the baseball season. This place was nuts over the Kotchman/Teixeira trade last year.

I am the Iron Man

by 44FAN on Jun 18, 2009 11:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

shit happens.

I am the Iron Man

by 44FAN on Jun 19, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm ok with standing pat

I think we’re good.

Angel Pitching (Adenhart), Angel Defense - get past that.

by vladtheimpaler on Jun 19, 2009 5:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

good to go

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Angel Pitching (Adenhart), Angel Defense - get past that.

by vladtheimpaler on Jun 19, 2009 5:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vlad needs to start slugging.

Vlad’s yearly SLG since joining the Angels.

2004: .598
2005: .565
2006: .552
2007: .547
2008: .521
2009: .366

While a decline in 2009 could be expected, a .366 slugging average is absurd. The drop off is far too significant. I suspect that the torn chest muscle has sapped him of his power. If he’s hurt, Vlad needs to be honest with The Soth. An injured Vlad helps no one. I would rather he take the next six weeks off and get well. A return of a healthy, slugging Vlad for the months of August and September could be what wins the AL West for the Angels.

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by Fan Since 1981 on Jun 19, 2009 8:01 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The thing that shows me is that power can be lost through a hole in your swing

For example, if your outer leg is not synchronized with the bottom hand, it’s harder to hit it out. Vlad looks like his head turns too much when he is hitting. When you are one second off, it can result in a swung strike three.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by vlad IS my man on Jun 19, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is still basically warming up and hopefully heating up

In another month, let the Angels see what they have in Vlad.

Or is Kendry perhaps the one who needs to sit?

by BBFan1 on Jun 19, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think last year he was doing the same thing...

and then he went on a hot streak against Oakland and others…. the SLG% can change in a 2 week hot streak…

#34

by stuck in Romania on Jun 19, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about sign Abreu to a extension?

We should think about signing Abreu to a 2-3yr extension. He has been great for this team although with no power. Like the idea of signing Bay in the off-season. Should try to trade Aybar and maybe even Kendrick for some pitching and go with Woods and S-Rod/Izturis next year. Do you guys see any way we can get Manny Delcarmen or maybe Saito from Boston? What would it take to get Heath Bell from San Diego?

by 310Angel on Jun 20, 2009 2:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

According to MLB Trade Rumors

Boston have asked about the availability of Maicer Izturis. Too bad we couldn’t convince them to take Aybar. But they’ve seen first hand what he’s capable of.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jun 20, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saito is interesting

Sure he’s old, the Sux aren’t using him that much this year and I still really rate his stuff. He would be a real valuable addition to help shore up our ailing bullpen.

With Saito, it would make more sense to sacrifice Iztu (although I love him) than Aybar because of the age difference. And you would really only do it if you were convinced Brandon Wood is ready to play SS or that Sean the Baptist could be as valuable as Maicer in the utility room.

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Jun 21, 2009 4:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Takashi Saito is talented but...

He’s 39 years old. I think I’d rather have Manny Del Carmen (27 years old) for Aybar. I doubt they’d do that though… Del Carmen is a solid bullpen arm and Aybar just isn’t that great of a player. He’s decent but we probably have to give a little more, and I just don’t know what they’d want in return? Maybe Mathis, but I wouldn’t feel real great about that. Buuuuuttttttt…… I’d do the deal considering our situation in the ‘pen. Plus, Aybar being expendable due to Wood, and Mathis is because his lack of offense. I’m okay with Budde or Wilson as our back-up catcher this year. But that limits what you can do next year… maybe Conger could fast track it and be ready by mid-season 2010.

by matt92130 on Jun 21, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Sox aren't trading Delcarmen for a singles hitter.

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

by hk47 on Jun 22, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Takashi Saito would give us a new look

Even though he’s 39, he still has filthy stuff. I like Delcarmen, but I’m not sure I wouldn’t think the price of Mathis a bit too high. I think the price for Delcarmen would be too high, period, as long as we’re playing decently and in/around the lead in the West.

But if we could get Saito for … say, Izturis, but maybe try for less (although INF is our surplus), he could easily step into the Shields role ….

or (shudder) if anything were to happen to Fuentes, then we would have an experienced closer ready to step in. The more I think about Saito, the more I like him.

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Jun 21, 2009 12:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Saito (yawn)

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

by hk47 on Jun 22, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saito for Terry Evans and Matt Brown

Saito is sort of a proven reliever, though at 39, he is basically a better looking Rudy Seanez.

Evans and Brown may never have significant roles in the Angels’ organization at the Major League level.

Or is Kendry perhaps the one who needs to sit?

by BBFan1 on Jun 22, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't we already sign

Rudy Seanez or am I think of someone else?

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jun 23, 2009 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We did, but it doesn't look like that is going to pan out.

Anyone have any other take on Seanez??

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by matthiasstephan on Jun 23, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's pushing 40 years old and kinda sucks

But he used to throw massive heat. If he gets that back, well, you never know …

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Jun 24, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no moves will be made..

the starting pitching has done a great job.. no better pitchers r out there.
the bullpin sux.. but there r no good relivers out there that r worth the price.
our out field is packed with over paid no result players. torii has gone above and beyound his side of things, juan has done his job, abreu soso ground ball matthews jr sux vlad i hope this is just a really bad start.
kenrdy now has more homers to date than kotch hade in 1 year. 2nd base is a hole short stop has no brains 4 the game …… he swung at a pitch that almost hit him in the nutts……. figgie ove him but get thown out on the bases to much.
with all thi said the team has all these problems.hurt players, and one death mike the man has them in first place… with the young players coming up and the heart they have bring on boston this year..

by 44 power on Jun 25, 2009 11:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hahahahahahahahaha

Oh Jesus… I haven’t laughed that hard in a while.

by matt92130 on Jun 28, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Headline needs editing ...

How many days til trade deadline? Don’t mean to be a dick, but hey, I am a journalist.

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Jul 1, 2009 9:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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