Sunday Postgame Wrapup - Angels @ Detroit
by Rev Halofan on Jun 7, 2009 1:15 PM PDT
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Are you kidding?
Dondo and Bulger cost us 5 runs, which were decisive. GMJ was bad. Vlad was bad. But they didn’t hurt us like Dondo and Bulger.
Not kidding
0-5, bad throw contributed to the tying run.
You're not saying that because of the throw, are you?
It was a good throw. If Kendry doesn’t get in the way, it’s right to Naps.
Angels fan since '67
half-right
You probably already know all of this. Technically, Kendry wasn’t “in the way.” He was supposed to be cutting off the throw, which is the job of the first baseman when the pitcher backs up home plate and there on runners in scoring position. And it is the catcher’s job to tell the cut-off man to “cut” or not. So, Naps most likely told Kendry to catch the ball. The problem is, he didn’t catch a very catchable throw.
Keep those hammies limber, boys.
by Rally Manatee on Jun 7, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
bullpen in general
bulger in specific….unreal
GA GA he's the man, if he can't do it, no one can
by Moondoggy on Jun 7, 2009 1:20 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Bullpen is well....the bullpen......
Something needs to happen with Vlad…….it’s getting redonkulous now…..
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 7, 2009 1:20 PM PDT reply actions
Bulger giving up the grand slam sort of put the game out of reach.
I am the Iron Man
by 44FAN on Jun 7, 2009 1:21 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Sort of puts the game out of reach?
by BrentSchmidt on Jun 7, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Okay, erected a chain link fence around our chances of getting the win.
I am the Iron Man
by 44FAN on Jun 7, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Too many losers to pick just one.
I've got nothing.
by bc56274 on Jun 7, 2009 1:22 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
In the spirit of Col. Frank Slade
we need to take a flamethrower to that bullpen.
"We have a great closer, one of the best in the game, and I wouldn’t trade him for anyone else." (Matt Palmer, after the latest Fuentes meltdown)
I wish I had something insightful to post
But I don’t, shitty game all around, pathetic bully, and AB’s.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
Bulger--The Grand Slam Specialist
For his 4th or 5th Grand Salami given up THIS YEAR.
And Soth for even giving TGSS the opportunity to give one up.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
I'm beyond pissed that this keeps happening
When the man, even if nails recently, is that consistently bad with the bases loaded, why the h-ll would you leave him in with the bases loaded, TWICE?
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
unfortunately if my memory serves, this is not the first time that Dondo has done most of the loading
of the bases for Bulger…maybe even the 3rd time…
Miss you Nick...! RIP
Man, they're like the pitching version of the anti-Manny and Papi pairing
Or maybe Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumf—k.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
With their powers combined....
They are…TEH SUCK!
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Captain salami...
He’s a failure
gonna bring our record down to .000
Teh Suck!
I like the typo. Can we just nickname our bullpen “teh suck?”
Keep those hammies limber, boys.
by Rally Manatee on Jun 7, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes!
The typo was intentional, btw, like a bad gamer. I dunno, I was channeling Ctrl-Alt-Del, or at least attempting to….how about TehMushroomCloud?
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
In defense of Bulger...
He has been our only quality reliever over the past few months. And the last time he had the bases jammed he struck out pedroia and got big papi into a crap ground out.
I think Soth’s decision to bring him in wasnt so bad…tough luck though.
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jun 7, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
All right, all right.
That’s fair enough. Yet the statistically high probability that with the bases loaded Bulger would be the one to give up the tater, I’m not sure that that was the Soth’s most brilliant move ever—I think it’s more frustrating that Soth left him in the second time the bases were juiced, after he’d already walked a guy and given up a fly to Center. Errors aside, if Matthews didn’t have a particularly strong arm, that would have been a regular RBI, easily.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Of course,
The strong arm of Matthews is probably what the Soth was depending on anyway…
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Wholesale changes in bullpen...
and I don’t think that is doable…the Escobar to the pen thing is a nice idea, but realistically using his surgically repaired shoulder on a daily basis is a BAD idea…I just don’t see the options in-house!
Miss you Nick...! RIP
This doesn't help: Darren O'Day pitched a 1-2-3 8th today against the Red Sox, including 2 Ks.
by Fan Since 1981 on Jun 7, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
It's still early, but it's starting to look like it might just be the Rangers year
Career year from Nelson Cruz, Andruw Jones contributing, O’Day being effective, Millwood pitching like an ace….
RIP Nick Adenhart
Entire team other than Figgins & Rivera
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Jun 7, 2009 1:28 PM PDT reply actions
This team should have scored enough runs to make the final score moot...
the complete lack of fundamentals shown by the entire team is gut puking wrenching!
For a manager known for having teams with great fundamentals…this team SUCKS!
Miss you Nick...! RIP
his managing has been exposed.
anyone can look like a genius with a lights out bullpen like he’s had in years past
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Jun 7, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Exposed?
Anyone will look like an idiot too when he has the worst bullpen in baseball. And it is not just one guy. We have 0 reliable bullpen arms.
by Brody on Jun 7, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
...and his team can't do what little leaguers can do...
advance runners into scoring position, throw to the right base, tag runners out on their way to your bag, lay down a bunt, hit and run, throw the ball to the cutoff man, etc
Miss you Nick...! RIP
tinkers with the lineup to get shitty players some play
but doesn’t make any moves addressing the real problems.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Jun 7, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
It's a nightmare.
Instead of one or two more guys becoming MORE reliable, we’ve got previously reliable guys becoming unreliable, i.e. Oliver.
Keep those hammies limber, boys.
by Rally Manatee on Jun 7, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
My intent
was not necessarily to bash on Soth…but he needs to get it through to his players that this type of play is intolerable. The A’s would have sent guys down by now…on a wholesale basis
Miss you Nick...! RIP
no accountability at all
unless you are howie kendrick
it’s pathetic and been going on for years.
his other target was kotchman
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Jun 7, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
yea Soth wasn't too fond of CK
guess he doesn’t like players that actually have a plan up at the plate, other than see ball hit ball
yes exactly
I posted that in the game thread!
today's game needed a suicide squeeze and some stolen base attempts by catchers
maybe some outs on the paths would have made a difference
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Jun 7, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Rudy Seanez to the rescue!
We need something to happen. Every time this team seems to turn a corner, it just slams on the gas in reverse. We have serious problems in the bullpen.
Glavine to the pen...........
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 7, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
I just saw former Raider Lester Hayes signing at the KMart,
Can we add him to the bullpen?
Keep those hammies limber, boys.
by Rally Manatee on Jun 7, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
That'd be swell! Wouldn't it?
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Arredondo is a 1 inning guy
He is not “good shields”
He never makes it through an inning after sitting in the dugout.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Jun 7, 2009 1:29 PM PDT reply actions
On a lighter note...Aerosmith just announced they are going to play the entire
Toys in the Attic LP on their upcoming tour…
Miss you Nick...! RIP
Dondo and Bulger will be pleased then since they will get to hear "Walk this Way"
RIP Nick Adenhart
by stolenbases on Jun 7, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
GMJ is BOTG for me
The guy has no right to be playing MLB right now. He needs to just be released and someone from the minors brought up. Do you guys realize he is doing considerably worse now than when he was released like 4 times. Yea he has a 2 more years on his contract, but do you really want him actually playing those 2 years? His contract is a sunk cost, we are going to pay it regardless, we might as well get some production. Pettit would do a lot better than a .600 OPS and he’s actually a future part of this team in that he’ll probably wind up as their 4th OF.
Pettit injured...
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jun 8, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
BOTG: BULGER!
He allowed the Tigers to tie it AND take the lead. Bulger entered the game with runners on 1st and 2nd and one out.
exactly, except, you blamed the wrong guy...
not a great situation for Bulger to enter. Dondo just keeps putting people on, setting others up to fail.
NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!
Yeah, but Bulger couldn't throw a strike either...
Except for the meatball he threw to Thomas
Angels fan since '67
Blame of the Game according to FanGraphs WPA
Bulger: -.572
Vladdy: -.319
GMJ: -.226
GMJ incites much anger amongst Angels fans, but with regards to this game it is clear that Bulger and Vladdy are much more to blame.
by Fan Since 1981 on Jun 7, 2009 1:35 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Vlad looks like he is still warming up however
At least I hope with his batting average creeping up…Papi looks like he is done.
Or is Kendry perhaps the one who needs to sit?
I hope so too, but I just worry that Vlad may be older than what we think.
It’s possible age has just caught up with him
RIP Nick Adenhart
numbers probably would had been worse for vlad if not for that Single in the 9th and scoring a run
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 7, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
FREE BRANDON WOOD!
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Jun 7, 2009 1:42 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Amen to that except that right now Aybar is not even close to our worst hitter
and Kendrick probably had his best 3 AB stretch in awhile to end this game. and there is no way Vlad is sitting even though he is the one that should right now.
i'll take it!
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
by howiestheman on Jun 7, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
It's ALL about the bullpen.
If the ‘pen doesn’t get straightened out, we are screwed. This is the 9th or 10th game the ‘pen has blow already this year, and we are only 1/3 the way through the season. Take even HALF of those blown saves (I don’t expect perfection) and convert to wins and we are 10-12 games over .500. That would put us in 1st place.
Trades? Is anyone shopping reliable relief pitching?
by sothball on Jun 7, 2009 1:50 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
yup...all the Brandon Woods in the world can't fix that problem
RIP Nick
by ladybug on Jun 7, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
All the Brandon Woods?
You mean there’s more than one? Free all the Brandon Woods!
by leftwing on Jun 7, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Here we go again...
…you get a rec for agreeing with me, but me?
NUTTIN!!!!
And look at all the recs in this losing thread!!!!
This scandalous! It’s the baseball fan internet version of steroids abuse!!! I DEMAND an investigation! Where’s Congress when you need ’em???
by sothball on Jun 7, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 7, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
OK. I officially withdraw my request for a congressional investigation.
…but look at all the bitching it took. Sheesch!!!!
Quantifiable GMJ bashing: HE SHOULD BE PAYING THE ANGELS
FanGraphs has some very cool metrics regarding what a player’s total contribution is worth in terms of dollars. You can go to the link below to read up on it if you wish.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/
I will however cut straight to the point. It’s no surprise that GMJ is not helping the Angels win this year. But he is SO bad that his worth so far this year is negative $4.6 million, meaning the Angels should be paying him less than zero given his performance. But take comfort! He’ll actually be pulling in around $10 million this year. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feel better?
by Fan Since 1981 on Jun 7, 2009 1:56 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
How much should Bulger be paying?
$100,000,000,000,000??
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
I feel that Bulger is the Angels player most responsible for the outcome of today's game
I also believe that with today’s loss, the Halos have now lost more games when leading after the 8th inning than all of last year (total of 9 last year). Not good for a team that relies on winning close games…
by Big Easy Halofan on Jun 7, 2009 1:56 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
BP made a big deal about how the Angels were so lucky last year because they lead the the league in winning 1-run games. Guess the Angels wanted to show they wouldn’t keep it up and could be lucky in other ways…except now they’re just terribly unlucky.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Matthews
Should have been 5-for-5 with two home runs, six RBIs, four runs scored and two steals for good measure.
The fact he can’t have games like that befuddles me. Isn’t he a $10 million dollar player?
Maybe I should take a step back and not him the ‘end-all’ scapegoat for someone else’s fail.
Or is Kendry perhaps the one who needs to sit?
I gave it to Bulger, but Vlad gets an honorary
Bulger is was the most technically accurate call for this game, but I think Vlad deserves an automatic honorary BOTG for every game he fails to get an extra base-hit, OR hits into a DP when we needed the runs.
GMJ is horrible, sure, but we expected and planned for him to be horrible from day 1. Vlad is horrible and we desperately need him to be the hero he used to be.
The days of Vlad being the man are numbered IMO
This year Hunter has replaced Vlad as the man.
Hopefully Vlad is just rusty and can become a nice complementary player this year for the Halos. Until that time comes, he should not be batting 3rd with his rally killing DPs.
RIP Nick Adenhart
Trade imminent?
Is a trade imminent at this point for bullpen help? The answer certainly isn’t in-house anymore, and maybe package together a deal with Aybar for some sort of reliever…
This would allow Brandon Wood a chance to play and could help the bullpen. At this point, any sort of help is needed… A team will never win a division or a World Series with a bullpen like the one we’re stuck with right now.
It’s time Tony and Arte to pull the rabbit out of the hat, and work some magic.
RIP Nick Adenhart
2009 Is for You
Maybe the Angels can use this guy
Or is Kendry perhaps the one who needs to sit?
He wouldn't help...
…unless you want to use him as a set-up man. FWIW, he has the same number of saves as Fuentes (15), although K-Rod has fewer blown saves and a much lower ERA.
Where we are REALLY screwing up is in set-up roles. Speier, Bulger, Shields, Arredondo, are far worse than last year. There just isn’t a guy in the bullpen that has earned any trust or faith (including Fuentes).
by sothball on Jun 7, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fun facts about Jason Bulger
Courtesy of Baseball Reference:
1. With today’s bases-juiced bomb, Bulger now leads the major leagues with three grand slams allowed—and in just 24 innings pitched! Only three other pitchers have allowed more than one.
2. That’s 3 slams in 8 bases-loaded situations. The opponents: noted sluggers Ichiro Suzuki, Jason Kubel, and Clete Thomas, who have 16 home runs between them.
3. Only five teams have hit more grand slams all year than Jason Bulger has allowed in 24 IP: the Phillies, Rays, Twins, Tigers, and Rockies.
4. Twenty-two teams have hit fewer grand slams all year than Jason Bulger has allowed in 24 IP, including the Angels, one of the three teams with zero (the other two are Atlanta and San Diego).
5. Out of Bulger’s 28 fly balls allowed, 3 were grand slam home runs. That’s a grand-slam-per-fly-ball rate of 10.7%. He’s also averaging 1 slam per 8 IP, which would put him on pace for 9 grand slams over a full season of 75 IP.
6. Nolan Ryan owns the record for most grand slams allowed over an entire career with 10 in 5386 IP. Bulger would blow that away by more than 6700%.
Small sample sizes are amusing. Obviously Jason Bulger hasn’t been bitten by some mystical gland-slam-bad-luck bug. He wasn’t even responsible for all four runs in each situation. But he is a fly-ball pitcher with control problems, which means he allows lots of baserunners and lots of long fly balls. The real blame here goes to Scioscia for continually bringing him in with runners on base. He’s just not that good of a pitcher. Less Brendan Donnelly 2.0, more Chris Bootcheck 1.1. He might be useful for pitching garbage time, but two on, one out in the bottom of the 8th of a one-run ballgame? No way.
But out of this bullpen, who do you bring in in that situation? That’s what makes me sad. All of the options are bad. I probably just leave Arredondo in to deal with his own mess. He gets ground balls and Polanco swings at anything, so there’s a good chance of a double play. But with Bulger you’d better hope those long fly balls he gives up stay in the yard.
Maybe Scioscia thought he was a good choice because Comerica has such a big outfield, but a sac fly wouldn’t help either. More likely Scioscia was going by his gut instinct that Bulger’s been pitching well lately, so he’ll probably pitch well now. He gambled and lost, which he seems to have done a lot of this year. I used to credit Scioscia for excellent bullpen management, but before this year he’s always had reliable guys with well-defined roles. Not too many hard choices to make. But he seems completely lost with this squad. It’s the pitchers who are doing poorly, but Scioscia isn’t making things any better by playing the percentages the wrong way.
I’m going to run down to the stationer and buy Scot Shields a get-well-soon card, maybe some balloons, a teddy bear, and a heart-shaped box of chocolate candies. He can’t return from the DL and figure out how to pitch again too soon for this team.
by Suboptimal on Jun 7, 2009 4:02 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I agree we need Shilelds to be...
…“good Scotty”. But, it’s a team game. We need more than that. We need Arredondo and at last one other guy in the ’pen to be consistent.
Regardless, nice comment…and rec’d.
by sothball on Jun 7, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The thing about Bulger in my opinion is
he’s Jekyll and Hyde. When he is getting his breaking pitches over (he wants to start batters off with curves btw) then he can be a dominant pitcher as he was in May. When he’s not getting his breaking pitches over then hitters can sit on his fastball and that is when homers happen. It’s pretty easy to tell too when he has his stuff and when he doesn’t. Unfortunately he was left out too long today, but kinda hard to blame Soth because he doesn’t have many choices right now.
Personally I see no reason for Escobar to be in the rotation as long as Palmer is pitching well. Our bullpen is an obvious weakness and in the playoffs our starting rotation would be OVERKILL as only 3 starters are needed. Even right now if the Angels made the playoffs they’d have to tell two of their starting staff they are in the bullpen. You might as well tell Escobar now. I mean personally I don’t see him getting starts in the playoffs barring a DOMINANT second half with Weaver doing so well, Lackey being the de facto ace and the Angels committing to Santana with a big contract.
They might as well just tell Escobar to get used to the bullpen right now IMO.
The thing about Bulger in my opinion is
he shouldn’t be in the major leagues.
Keep those hammies limber, boys.
by Rally Manatee on Jun 7, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
you said it
This is one of those days Bat Giamatti wrote about when he said “It breaks your heart, it is designed to break your heart.”
Rivera looks like he is tuned in
HK looked hitterish, much better abs than his recent ones.
This Circle Jerk of Bitching is brought to you by:
MH252525, Clutch, K3YROUT and Quinlan’s goofy swing…
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jun 7, 2009 8:46 PM PDT reply actions
At least they all agree there was a train wreck, just not how it happened.
Everyone that voted in the poll have varying differences of which part of the train caused the rest of the train to jump the track and veer over the cliff.
I am the Iron Man
I dunno man...
I know Soth isn’t perfect but when people start saying shit like “his managing has been exposed. anyone can look like a genius with a lights out bullpen like he’s had in years past…” or comparing this team to little league, it just sounds like a lot of noise to me.
I’m sure you remember a time not too long ago when this time of the year when this team would already be out of the playoffs run. I know this site is here for discussion but its hard to get into the fray when its just every shitting on Soth and our team.
I think that while this season has been hard, it also has been really interesting. Growing pains are tough but so far I’ve been excited by the likes of Palmer, Naps seems to be getting better, K-Mo turned out to be pretty solid, Juan Rivera is pulling through after a bunch of seasons on the bench, WTY is killing it out there and living up the hype finally…I dunno…it just turns me off when people talk like they want Doug Radar back in.
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jun 7, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I appreciate level-headedness much more than the blame game after a loss
Take it all in stride. Thank you for being one of the good ones.
RIP #34
Did Doug Radar manage when the Angels payroll was consistently Top 6 in all of MLB
and when his scouts got him John Lackey, Santana, Saunders, Weaver? Don’t think so, he was probably trying to figure out who was better Scott Lewis or Julio Valera.
Outside of Angels blogs a ton of people think Soth is horribly overrated, and I’m not talking just about M’s, A’s and Rangers fanboys.
Just saying you can’t really compare Soth to Doug Radar……
why not?
Was the team he took the World Series on a payroll that was in the top 6 of MLB?
Also, when someone like Dan Patrick says Mike Scioscia is the best manager in the game, I tend to respect him more than 99% of the blog heads out there.
Also, I am fascinated that you even lean towards suggesting Doug Radar is underrated and that Soth is overrated. You’re really are amazing.
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jun 8, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I said NOTHING positive about Doug Radar
What I said is that you can’t really compare them just like apples and oranges. One managed a team run by Jackie Autry that was very frugal, one managed with a superior player development system and probably the best owner in MLB.
I was too young when Radar managed to give any insights about him. I do however feel Soth is overated. His flaws are something you see if you follow the team religiously and you see Joe Saunders being sent down for a veteran when he was our best starter one April, when Jered Weaver was sent down for a veteran in the middle of the pennant race when he was our best starter. Soth is excellent at building team unity and that is exactly the stuff that is going to get noticed by the likes of Dan Patrick who I bet if you asked watches very few actual Angels games each year. And yes I understand you have to give players a semi-long leash in order to build a team but IMO Soth carries it overboard and I know there are a lot of people who agree with me including Steve Bisheff (with his GMJ comment) who actually follows the Angels rather than a guy at ESPN who most of the people here seem to think do a horrible job of covering the Angels.
Let me just say I do respect your opinions BHM. I just feel you have unjustly categorized me as ONLY complaining about players and management. I mean before you said I was at the head of the “circle jerk of bitching”. Just in this one thread I had defended Bulger which you and I agree on, and I said what a good job Rivera is doing, and I even complemented Howie here as well as in the game thread (and correctly predicted a hit for him) and said he’s back based on what I saw his last 3 abs in Detroit. Trust me I am looking for positives. But when a team with the 6th highest payroll is hovering around .500 I tend to think there are going to be a few more negatives than positives.
Word...
Careful though, we were owned by Disney when we won the WS and our farm system was not THAT developed yet.
Also, maybe its just that Steve Bisheff is rubbing off on you. He has to be the biggest critique of the Halos that until he sent me a personal email explaining his sentiments, I was positive that he hated the Angels and was forced to write about them. Read more Sam Miller…less Steve!
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jun 8, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Writers
I know I’ve had issues with what Bisheff has said in the past and I totally agree about Sam from everything I’ve read of him.
Honestly though I hardly read any newspaper articles about the Angels. I only really started reading stuff about the Angels online again since WiHaloFan is doing such a fantastic job of providing the links for all of us.
Can you look at what I actually posted?
I said the Angels played have been playing bad fundamental baseball. Is that true or false?
I said GMJ should be DFA’d because he’s been flat horrible for a long time, he could have gone 3-5 today and he should still be released. His stats are getting worse every year, and are far worse than when he was being released every fortnight by crappy teams, and oh yea that was BEFORE he was linked to PEDs.
Then I DEFENDED Jason Bulger because he has actually shown some talent. He was our best reliever in May. Yea he has some horrible outing but he’ll also miss in a couple of outings in a row where his potential shines. What kind of potential do GMJ or Q have? You want to anwer me that?
Oh that’s right, you don’t actually contribute a whole lot about the Angels, you’d rather talk about our divisional rivals and their managerial situation.
Sure I blast a lot of players, but I also say great things about a lot of players.
In the spirit of this thread...
Someone rec this post too!
by lackey41 on Jun 7, 2009 9:46 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
One thing is certain this year for sure….Angels fans are one edge. Every loss brings out virtual venom toward our players. It’s like we’re all sitting there every game, just waiting for the bottom to drop out. I do it, too. Let’s face it, guys. We got hit hard with Nick Adenhart’s death. BY we I mean the fans. We feel like Jared Weaver, that this season should be one that honors Nick, and we’re watching a team that is falling unusually short of meeting even rational expectations, much less the larger burden we as fans have put on them this year. Every loss feels like further affirmation that we are ultimately doomed to failure. We’re also fighting the naysayers who say our run of excellence is over. It’s bigger than usual this year, isn’t it? It just feels like much more is at stake this time, right? It feels almost like we are fighting against fate itself and we’re losing. WHo knows how this will end?
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