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defending Physioc, and can anyone speak English?

Now we have the Rev calling Steve Physioc the worst announcer in baseball.

Why? Because the broadcaster has the gall to call attention to the biggest offensive night of the season. Or would've been if Andruw Jones had parked No. 4.

What, was Fizz supposed to scintillate us with a breakdown of the No. 1 Angel Stadium experience? Because if you wanted homer musings from the booth, that was the only thing left in that Ranger series.

Or could Physioc reach for a homer of substance, one that ties history? Good for him that he announced the news.

Which adds to his credentials as the worst announcer in baseball? Against what list? Worse than John Sterling, whom Yankee fans and the Post's Phil Mushnick are trying to ditch? Worse than voices for the Marlins, Royals, Twins? I doubt if the Rev has a clue. About the only listeners who do are those of American Forces Network, which airs games from every market for our troops around the globe.

I used to be one of those AFN listeners. And knew that despite L.A.'s love affair with Vin Scully, he was not the best. Certainly not better than the Giants' Hank Greenwald, the Orioles' Chuck Thompson and the White Sox combo of Harry Caray and Jimmy Piersall.

No, Physioc isn't the worst. Not even among Angel play-by-play guys. His voice far surpasses the tone of Markas and Smith. And the Fizz has more fun playing off Rex.

As far as our Orange County ears can figure, he might be one of the best.

Quit this fire-Physioc campaign. It's childish.

We'd be better off bitching about something of substance: Angel players who don't speak English. At least not with a mic in from of them.

This Morales ignoring our language for Spanish the way Vlad does is outrageous. This is an American team with American fans paying them American millions.

Learn to speak to us without a Mota dictionary, for crying out loud.

Follow hockey's lead. Guy Lafleur and Mario Lemieux were two French Canadians who entered the NHL knowing hardly any English. The Habs and Penguins made sure they learned it. Simple marketing. They knew their fan base spoke English, so get with the program, guys.

The Angels should do the same. So should every team in baseball, which has crashing attendance as it is.

Fans want players they can relate to. It sure would help if they could understand them.

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I agree

It would be nice if all the Angels spoke the language. I mean, shit….if i moved to Great Britain to play football or something, I would damn sure learn THEIR lanuage!

by dr-awkward on Jul 11, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know about that

Pakistani has so many dialects it would be hard to communicate to all the Brits with a just a grammatical understanding of their new native tongue.

by Rev Halofan on Jul 11, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are over 200 languages spoken in London alone...

…we’ll take anything.

Having said that, no-one butchers English quite like our visitors from across the pond.

I see red people

by The Limey on Jul 11, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watch it ...

There be a pint coming upside your head some time soon. :) Save your angst for the Aussies, who butcher English far worse than any American can hope to acheive.

You’ve got the Ashes to look forward to, mate.

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Jul 11, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

*dies of laughter*

I remember Lackey saying that almost every time after he throws a gem.

by 27up27down on Jul 16, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LEARN TO SPEAK AMERICAN

SPEAK GOD’s LANGUAGE

(sarcasm)

Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.

by princeton11loveshalos on Jul 11, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

If you’d have left the sarcasm part out it would have been funnier, we all know you’re kidding

by TheAntiSox on Jul 11, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry,

but I agree with WiHF.

I’d rather hear them in their native language. That way, they don’t stumble around trying to find the right words in English. And I don’t think the players would be as insightful in English, because no matter now many classes they’ve taken, they wouldn’t find the words they’d really have in their head.

About Phyz, I agree that we’ve taken it a bit too far. But I’d rather have an odd voiced, insightful and smart announcer than someone who acts like he can barely read his own notes.

Meh, just my two cents.

34 - N.J.A - R.I.P

by Figgi4life on Jul 11, 2009 11:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

True

But they organization does offer free English lessons, I’m sure.

I don’t really mind a player like Morales not speaking English because he hasn’t been around for that long. But as for Vlad, it does bother me that a guy like him has been in the majors for over 10 years now and still can’t speak English into the mic.

I don’t care how bad he sounds, it’s nice to know that someone getting paid as much as him can put a little effort into at least trying to learn English.

I would fully understand if a player doesn’t sound great trying to speak English in interviews, at least he’s trying.

by TheAntiSox on Jul 11, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They get paid to play Major League baseball

not to speak English. Most non American players don’t have a proper education and are embarrassed about it. Getting misunderstood in an interview is the easiest way for them to get in trouble.

Plus wasting time to learn something for an interview that is more of a hassle for them then fun. When they could be spending that time honing their skills, or relaxing, before the game. Spend all that time learning English, might not give them a chance to use it.

They have a contract to play baseball, not a scholarship to learn English.

by eyespy on Jul 11, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In some ways

They look worse not speaking English than screwing up.

by TheAntiSox on Jul 11, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you serious?

have you visited another country and tried to speak their native tongue. you know how stupid it feels when your totally butchering their language. thats in front of just one person. most people are nice and they understand that your trying but its humiliating just trying figure out which word to use and how to use it. imagine doing that in front of an audience.

no they look fine speaking their language that their comfortable with. they get paid to play, not to speak the language.

by HALO_86 on Jul 12, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since you brought it up

People in other countries expect you to know their language.

I can’t count how many people I’ve tried to communicate with who expected ME to be the one to know their language, in MY country! Not in another country.

by TheAntiSox on Jul 12, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont know about you, but I was just traveling abroad and had no idea what the natives were saying.

I mean, like no english whatsoever. I mean cmon guys, you should be able to speak this language.
FYI I was in London

That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey

by anaheim angels on Jul 13, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well the English speaking United States

Whipped their asses and paid them for the land.

So I have little to no sympathy.

by TheAntiSox on Jul 13, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

paid whom for the land?

.... as sexy as socks on a rooster.

by opiejeanne on Jul 13, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mexico

Because I’m pretty sure that’s who Red114 was referring to above.

by TheAntiSox on Jul 13, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The assimilation of former Amerindian, then Spanish, then Mexican territory(ies)

Weaved all of them into our national narrative. Red114 is just saying we should have respect for that in addition to our “English speaking” heritage.

No my country beats yours stories needed.

RIP #34

by linkbruin on Jul 14, 2009 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks. My thoughts too.

.... as sexy as socks on a rooster.

by opiejeanne on Jul 14, 2009 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to be argumentative,

but I must have been asleep when that bit of history where we beat the Mexicans and then paid them for their land was discussed.

 Our street names are not “Mexican”, they are Spanish, as in the language spoken by those guys from Spain who tried to colonize nearly everything on the two American continents.

.... as sexy as socks on a rooster.

by opiejeanne on Jul 14, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We offered them a good sum of money, they disagreed, we then went to war with them. Once the battle was over, we then paid a fraction of the original offer. What a deal!

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Jul 14, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am unaware of this deal.

Honestly, I’m not sure which battle we’re talking about or when we compensated Mexico for anything. I honestly just do not know. Can you give me a date or the name of the battle?

.... as sexy as socks on a rooster.

by opiejeanne on Jul 14, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I learned this helping my son research a state report on Arizona 2 months ago.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Jul 14, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My education was deficient along these lines.

I’m still filling in the blanks of history, especially the part of it with Mexico.

I was also confused by the sudden shift from the subject at hand, Spanish vs. English, and thought the war and reparations reference was being made to a war with Spain. You can probably see how I got lost when the discussion suddenly shifted.

.... as sexy as socks on a rooster.

by opiejeanne on Jul 14, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I’m sorry I started it

by TheAntiSox on Jul 14, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right

But I’m pretty sure Mexico had won it’s independence from Spain, hence, the “Mexican-American War”.

by TheAntiSox on Jul 14, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm referring to any Spanish-speaking people who laid the groundwork for this country.

Or ANY non-English speaking people for that matter.

Apologies in advance.

by Red114 on Jul 14, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guess what?

The Mexican American War was a provoked war. The US sent around 3,000 soldiers to Mexico to provoke war and it worked. Everyone knows the story that Mexico sold the land, but the reality is the US came to an unstable nation at the time and swarmed them. The analogy would be if a poor farmer had a great deal of land and a group of bandits told the farmer to get out or else they will kill him. But in order to make it look clean, the bandit told him to sell his land for next to nothing. I want to do even more research on the subject for one of my research papers this year.

Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.

by princeton11loveshalos on Jul 14, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Biased analogy. Needs more research.

Closer to truth:

A short time earlier, your ‘poor farmer’ was really just another ‘group of bandits’ who took that same great deal of land by killing a farmer who was weakened after being attacked by his neighboring bandit.

We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.

by Stirrups on Jul 14, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

pardon the analogy

my point is the idea that Mexico just sold the land to the US is a misconception. It was forced into a position to sell the land. Not saying the Native Americans were in a good position either.

Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.

by princeton11loveshalos on Jul 14, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't even going as far back as the Native Americans.

The Mexicans took the lands from Spain by force. Spain had just been weakened by Napoleon I of France.

And even then Mexico had problems convincing all that territory to agree to central Mexican rule. New Mexico wanted out, Chiapas wanted out (and still rebels), Texas revolted altogether. Mexico had no police or military presence in the northern territories and could only encourage new settlers to migrate there as a way to ward off Native American aggression. They had zero control and only paper title, and this they held for only about 40 years.

Ironic to the emotions on this thread, Mexico tried to mandate that those immigrants they were encouraging to come in and stabilize the territories change not their language, but their whole friggin’ religion. Settlers had to convert to Catholicism. Of course, since Mexico had zero control, they had zero ability to enforce this policy.

We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.

by Stirrups on Jul 14, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would they be "forced"

To sell the land by the US if the US could have just taken the land for no money whatsoever?

by TheAntiSox on Jul 14, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brilliant

Sorry we slaughtered you all, but you DID refuse to negotiate the sale of your country. What else could we do? Can’t argue with logic like that, nor sympathize for the victims.

Apologies in advance.

by Red114 on Jul 14, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, to summarize:

After 1000’s of years of Native American speaking peoples slaughtering one another, and taking the land from one another, the Spanish-speaking people arrive and decimate the Native American peoples with disease before slaughtering them to take their land. We then had the French-speaking people slaughtering those Spanish-speaking people and taking the land, only to have the local Spanish-speaking people slaughter the French-speaking people and take the land. Finally, the English-speaking people slaughtered the local Spanish-speaking people and took the land, which remains the status quo.

So, yeah, by all means let’s put the full burden of terror and thievery on the shoulders of the English-speaking people.

We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.

by Stirrups on Jul 14, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s called the “circle of pillagery”

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Jul 14, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One edit to the status quo.

Those original Native Americans were finally given land (not usually the best land available) by the late-arriving English speaking people. After taking a few generations to figure out what to do with this land, the Native Americans decided to build casinos as a way of making a little cash for the members of their tribe (not sure how that quite figures into Indian tradition and folklore…but oh well!).
These casinos became quite popular to the point that they have now built BIGGER casinos help separate gambler from cash regardless of the language they speak. Much more effective than even Montezuma’s Revenge. It appears that the Native speakers may have got the last laugh.

Cue the commercial…
“Take me away,
a secret place…”

by sothball on Jul 14, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate that commercial.

.... as sexy as socks on a rooster.

by opiejeanne on Jul 14, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't misunderstand me...

I agree with everything you said. I am not ignorant enough to believe that “English-speaking” people are exclusively to blame for the brutality involved in the founding of the country. I’m only saying that it was more than just English-speakers who helped build it to greatness. I understand that we have decided on an official language, as well we should. I’m really reacting to the sentiments expressed by the author of the post. When I said I was referring to any non-English speaking people, I was responding to one poster’s assumption that I was only talking about Mexico- I was NOT trying to place the full burden on any specific group. So, my bad if that’s how I came off.

I hope that makes a bit more sense.

Apologies in advance.

by Red114 on Jul 14, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way to take a (sorta) reasonable argument and turn it into crap

This is America. We speak whatever language we need to, because we can.

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#34

by Carl Johnson on Jul 11, 2009 11:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Phyz is mediocre, not the worst.

Phyz is way better than Bob Starr. I don’t think about Phyz.

Aside from the language thing, Jose Mota may be the worst, talent-wise.

by cj1646 on Jul 11, 2009 11:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Phyz is in no way better than Bob Starr...

Bob was wonderful, Phyz is shitastic.

Don’t compare the two again. Seriously.

RIP Nick...

Jim Scully
Jim Scully Home

by jimmuscomp on Jul 11, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Terrorists, your game is through, now you have to answer to....

That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey

by anaheim angels on Jul 12, 2009 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What brings BuckyFox out of the woodwork?

A chance to preach his bigotry and racism under the cover of a defending Physioc article.

I am the Iron Man

by 44FAN on Jul 11, 2009 12:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh....

“About the only listeners who do are those of American Forces Network, which airs games from every market for our troops around the globe.”

Guess you aren’t counting anyone with MLB.TV or MLB Extra Innings huh?

by MH252525 on Jul 11, 2009 12:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If being fluent in English is SO important,

why don’t the Angels bring back Shea Hillenbrand, Steve Finley and Aaron Sele?

The players can speak Esperanto for all I care. I would prefer first and foremost that they are good baseball players.

by Fan Since 1981 on Jul 11, 2009 12:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, didnt think I would ever see Esperanto mentioned anytime soon.

Actually visited the grave of the guy who tried starting it in a cemetery in Warsaw recently. His tombstone is written in Esperanto, kinda cool.

That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey

by anaheim angels on Jul 12, 2009 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cagaste y saltaste en la caca.

Eres tan estupido como un perro.

Apologies in advance.

by Red114 on Jul 11, 2009 12:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I won't

pile on about the racism. I didn’t even need to read that far to determine the lack of merit in this post. All I needed to see what the line about Physioc having a better voice than Rory Markas, which he clearly does not, unless you are under the age of 5, or need to be spoken to as if you were.

by jjackflash on Jul 11, 2009 12:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We're judging the announcers on whether their voices have that wonderful

well-modulated, dulcet quality to their voice that makes us feel as calm and gooey?

Can we then transfer Rory’s brain into Fizz’s head, so we can have the best of both worlds?

I have no problem with Fizz’s voice. The man is an idiot.

Torii Hunter: Best Halo Ever.

by LazorkoRules on Jul 11, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

thank you

good point … a fender stratocaster in the arms of cheetah the chimp is never a rockin’ good time.

by Rev Halofan on Jul 11, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Leave Cheetah out of this

Maybe next time use Lance Link for your comedy relief.

by eyespy on Jul 11, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lance Link: secret chimp!
Steve Phink: public chump!

by Rev Halofan on Jul 11, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Both Physioc and Markas

Have really annoying voices.

Physioc has the dumbest laugh I’ve ever heard while Markas doesn’t know what he’s talking about half the time.

Sorry, tangent.

by TheAntiSox on Jul 11, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Fans want players they can relate to. It sure would help if they could understand them."

Who cares about the 31% of Orange County residents who are Hispanic (according to the 2000 census), and, of them, many native Spanish speakers?

Talk about a warped perspective…

Nick Adenhart - 1986 - 2009 R.I.P.

by swiss mcgee on Jul 11, 2009 12:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

2010 census WOOO!

That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey

by anaheim angels on Jul 12, 2009 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well… if 31% are Hispanic, that means that 69% are not, right?

by ghsu on Jul 14, 2009 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

P.S. Welcome to Halos Heaven

Here’s your second butt-hole.

"I've got more action than my man John Woo
And I've got mad hits like I was Rod Carew" - Shure Shot, The Beastie Boys

by Zoe Necrosis on Jul 11, 2009 12:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I wanted to give your viewpoint a second chance

So in order to hear your argument in a different light I decided to run the 10th and 11th paragraphs through a translation engine into spanish, and then run that text back through it into english. Let’s see how you did:

We would be better bitching about something of substance: The players of Angel that do not speak English. At least not with a microcomputer in of of them.

These Morale that ignore our language for Spaniard that the way Vlad causes is atrocious. This is an American team with American fans that pay them American millions.

Hmm. That didn’t quite do the trick. Let’s try running our new translation back and forth into german and see what comes out:

We would become better over something of substance mekern: The players of angel who does not speak English. At least not with a microcomputer in of of them.

This moral that ignore our language for Spaniards that the way Vlad causes is horrifying. This is an American team with American followers that them American millions pay.

I’m starting to see your point, but I don’t see how microcomputers are going to help.

"I've got more action than my man John Woo
And I've got mad hits like I was Rod Carew" - Shure Shot, The Beastie Boys

by Zoe Necrosis on Jul 11, 2009 1:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And if I had not failed at bolding the entire highlighted text that would've been great

"I've got more action than my man John Woo
And I've got mad hits like I was Rod Carew" - Shure Shot, The Beastie Boys

by Zoe Necrosis on Jul 11, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I study every post of this site.

That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey

by anaheim angels on Jul 12, 2009 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most luminous

Phys: Well, Coon doesn't have a lot of power but he's a good bunter
Coon: F$%# That!
Thanks Zu

by halofan4life on Jul 11, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it just you,

or is it your all friends and you

Angels fan since '67

by red floyd on Jul 11, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

bucky went from zero to blame the latino players...

in about a minute and a half. i don’t think my life would be more complete w/a juan rivera or kendry morales quote. they would say the same cliche-speak responses that every english speaking player says.

by thejd on Jul 11, 2009 1:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ouch man..

You had me with the whole Phyz thing… that was fine.

But you jumped off the cliff with the rant on language and race. No offense, but you sound like a bigot.

by matt92130 on Jul 11, 2009 1:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I have to believe you don't watch many Angels games

Because if you did, then you would have learned Spanish by now from all the post-game interviews.

Spanish is the 2nd most spoken language in the world. Perhaps it is you that should learn their language

RIP #34

by linkbruin on Jul 11, 2009 2:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i concur

Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.

by princeton11loveshalos on Jul 11, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh and check this on morales

He’s not Teixeira, of course. But teammates like him because the game never gets too big or too fast for him, and because he’s a natural hitter.

"He’s not afraid," Torii Hunter said.

And they like him because he’s come a long way defensively. And because he really, really wants to learn the language.

Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.

by princeton11loveshalos on Jul 11, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Link

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AkeZ0GMxu.b5pMlSjShj7EoRvLYF?slug=ti-yankees071009&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.

by princeton11loveshalos on Jul 11, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Talking socially and privately with your friends is one thing

Getting in front of a camera and answering question properly is a whole new ballgame.

I’m sure they all speak English in the clubhouse. They joke around, talk about the game, and get involved with the happenings of everyone connected with the Angels.

by eyespy on Jul 11, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is true

From my days in the clubhouse I remember the Spanish-speaking guys clowing around and BS-ing with teammates in Spanglish or mangled English, just having fun. Having to speak a second language on live TV with a microphone in your face is quite a different thing.

Once I had to tape a promo for Telemundo for the Angels official site, and I had to do it in Spanish. Even though I had the words in front of me on a teleprompter, and my Spanish is reasonably good, I was distinctly uncomfortable doing the interview in my second language.

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Jul 12, 2009 5:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't have any problem understanding Guerrero or Morales, because I speak semi-fluent Spanish

I took the time to learn it from my Mexican friends growing up in OC. However, I cannot understand a damn thing Ichiro Suzuki says. Does that make him a shitty player or a shitty example for the youth of America?

He speaks Japanese. Hall of Famer. End of story, end of racist bullshit.

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Jul 11, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand everything that Ichiro says, and I don't care

But I am clueless about what my favorite Spanish speaking Angel players are saying on TV. And I don’t care.

I just want to see them playing winning baseball, and keep on winning.

by eyespy on Jul 11, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you speak Japanese?

I would really love to be able to understand what he says without the translation!

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Jul 12, 2009 5:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

Really?

RIP #34

by linkbruin on Jul 11, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, of course not

It’s an illustration of an unfortunately all too common error. Racism has a very definite meaning, and when people throw it around haphazardly it only serves to diminish the impact of the word and its awful reality.

I disagree with just about everything in the OP, but none of it was racist.

by HoustonHaloFan on Jul 11, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said nothing about race anywhere

Language and race are not intrinsically related in the slightest.

RIP #34

by linkbruin on Jul 11, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, you're correct.

The comments here are peppered with accusations of racism, one of which I incorrectly attributed to you.

You and I agree completely on this subject.

by HoustonHaloFan on Jul 12, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didnt mean to seem hostile

But yeah, glad were in agreeement

RIP #34

by linkbruin on Jul 12, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And if I did use a word to describe the OP's diatribe

It would be xenophobic, an all too common sentiment not merely exclusive to Americans.

RIP #34

by linkbruin on Jul 11, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chinese (if so, which dialect) then Spanish?

where does English fit in? Hindi?

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

by Moondoggy on Jul 11, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The study I knew of was from about 15 years ago

But this was before the Indian population explosion, so Hindi could very likely be number 2 now. English was 3rd in the study. And they combined Mandarin and Cantonese. If I had to guess today it would be: 1) Combined Mandarin and Cantonese 2) Hindi 3) Spanish 4) English

RIP #34

by linkbruin on Jul 11, 2009 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

note:

The study was also about native speakers.

English is the lingua franca of the world today, so lots of people speak it not natively.

RIP #34

by linkbruin on Jul 11, 2009 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

THAT is very true

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

by Moondoggy on Jul 12, 2009 4:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was chatting to some Danish guys in the pub the other day ...

… and these guys spoke the most perfect, non-accented English you would ever want to hear. I was almost embarrassed about my SoCal drawl and slang.

IMO the US is way behind other countries in teaching alternative languages. A lot of people take a second language in school but nobody ever really uses it.

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Jul 12, 2009 5:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But for the Baby Rhino

the poo was easier to digest than the shit this post is made of

by eyespy on Jul 11, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

*post=This Fanpost

by eyespy on Jul 11, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have not posted in some time....

And I will agree slightly with WiHaloFan, this topic has been beaten into the ground. However, and everyone is entitled to have their favorite anouncers, but, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Steve Physioc is the WORST play caller we have and maybe the worst in all of sports. By far and away the worst. You made a bad mistake posting this ridiculous shit. It makes you look like an absolute fool. To each their own on who they like to listen to and we’re all entitled to our own opinion. So heres mine, if you think Steve Physioc is a pleasure to listen to calling a baseball game, you are a fucking idiot. Rory Markus rules angels play calling and no one can even touch him.

What in the wide wide world of sports is uh goin on here???

by AlohaHalofan on Jul 11, 2009 3:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I only wish if for just one game RORY and HUD

"Boy, did he drop a huge deuce in the stands!" (About a two-run homer)
Rex Hudler

by devildogamp on Jul 11, 2009 5:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

a g r e e

but poor Gubi stuck with Phyz

by Rev Halofan on Jul 11, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Phizz by far the most articulate of the bunch

How can you hate on Steve-o? He’s the only one of any of ‘em that can string two words together. Besides his affable persona, he seems to actually know what he’s talking about(unlike say T.Smith). Hating on Phizz is akin to cursing at vanilla ice cream, it’s doable but you sound foolish.

When all else fails, play softball

by JustanotherHalo on Jul 11, 2009 11:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That is the problem

Physioc is too vanilla and is eager to heap complimentary praise for the opposing team.

He reminds me of Ned Flanders.

Or is Kendry perhaps the one who needs to sit?

by BBFan1 on Jul 12, 2009 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, dont knock Ned

Flanders would be an awesome addition to the broadcast team. Ned could do post-game interviews with drunken Homers in the parking lot.

Lefties are people too....well sorta

by JustanotherHalo on Jul 12, 2009 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe a Ned Flanders

And Chief Wiggum or Apu combo?

YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....

by halofolife on Jul 12, 2009 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and Bumblebee Man doing the spanish telecasts

Bumblebee Man Pictures, Images and Photos

Please get rid of Kendrick and Aybar. And Santana. R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, Marquis Cooper, Steve McNair

by JoseGuillenSux on Jul 12, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean neighborino

Please get rid of Kendrick and Aybar. And Santana. R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, Marquis Cooper, Steve McNair

by JoseGuillenSux on Jul 12, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Touche.

I’ll work on my Ned impression ;-)

Apologies in advance.

by Red114 on Jul 13, 2009 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okilie dokilie!

Please get rid of Kendrick and Aybar. And Santana. R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, Marquis Cooper, Steve McNair

by JoseGuillenSux on Jul 14, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harry Shearer

(aka bass player Derek Smalls from Spinal Tap) does the voice of Ned Flanders. Now that would be great! Spinal Tap in the booth!

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Jul 12, 2009 5:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn the LPGA as well

From the Commissioner of the LPGA,
“… All we are asking is that in the three designated situations that are very important to the success of the LPGA and its players – pro-ams, winner acceptance speeches and media interviews – the players must be able to communicate basic sentiments in English.”

Where do they get off? Where does the insensitivity end? Have they no shame? I’m appalled. Where’s the PC police when you need ’em?

S/W/M seeks middle ground

by JustanotherHalo on Jul 12, 2009 1:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

They had no problem when it was pretty Swedes like Annika Sorenstam doing the talking ...

but the recent influx of Korean women golfers into the LPGA – some of whom may not be so pretty but are damn good golfers – so the LPGA takes this stupid knee-jerk reaction.

There is no question the LPGA are trying to put a pretty feminine face on their product. Not that there’s anything wrong with that per se, it’s just a wee bit sexist.

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Jul 12, 2009 5:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Dumb Ass.....we live in Southern CALIFORNIA where LATINOS are the MAJORITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You talk about relating to the player well you dumb ass that is exactly what is going on in this melting pot. Almost everyone speaks both spanish and english and if they want to talk in spanish who the hell cares. No one cares that you cant understand them.

Y si no tienes nada bueno que decir, hacenos el favor the callarte la boca!
…..and no Mota aint here to translate this for you!!!!!!

Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by acuda27 on Jul 12, 2009 2:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well...

I don’t NEED mota, but it’s nice to unwind with once in a while.

Apologies in advance.

by Red114 on Jul 13, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't be too quick to forget....

…that although the majority may be American, there are fans of all MLB teams all over the world – people who also pay their money to support them.

Baseball is a sport; the players are paid to go out there on the field and play the game. If Vlad suddenly had a run of hitting the ball straight to 2B every AB, but could use the most magical English vocabulary to describe his frustration afterwards would he be ‘more’ worth his millions?!

As far as i’m concerned, players speak to me as a fan with their batting, fielding, and pitching performances on the field – and that’s going to look the same in any language!

by AmyAngel on Jul 12, 2009 3:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

haha!

R E C ’ D

34 - N.J.A - R.I.P

by Figgi4life on Jul 12, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would rather see Morales hit .300 with 30 hrs and 100 rbis than listen to him speak english. I dont care if they all talk like the parents from the peanuts cartoons,as long as they win.

by imyhero on Jul 12, 2009 1:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, nice

But upon reflection, I think F***yBox is just here to hawk books.

"I've got more action than my man John Woo
And I've got mad hits like I was Rod Carew" - Shure Shot, The Beastie Boys

by Zoe Necrosis on Jul 12, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guys, lay off Bucky

Ok, so he has an opinion that most people dont agree with. He is entitled to his opinions. Just because he wants to listen to his favorite players speak the same language he does doesn’t make him a bigot, or a racist.

That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey

by anaheim angels on Jul 12, 2009 4:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

amid the masochism

vielen dank, aa

Go Mizzou.

by BuckyFox on Jul 13, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you mean sadism?

I know we should be laying off at this point, but those two sentences amount to the most asinine reply you could probably have manifest. Swing heil, BF.

"I've got more action than my man John Woo
And I've got mad hits like I was Rod Carew" - Shure Shot, The Beastie Boys

by Zoe Necrosis on Jul 14, 2009 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you just pull a quote from Swing Kids?

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Jul 14, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In a fashion

But it’s more accurate to say that the film Swing Kids was pulling a quote from history. They didn’t make up the jargon.

"I've got more action than my man John Woo
And I've got mad hits like I was Rod Carew" - Shure Shot, The Beastie Boys

by Zoe Necrosis on Jul 14, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

0 for 2 in that statement.

RIP #34

by linkbruin on Jul 14, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

You finally respond and manage to botch that too?

Apologies in advance.

by Red114 on Jul 14, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bucky Fox

I am the Iron Man

by 44FAN on Jul 14, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your quote is wrong. It should read:

“How cum them brown peeple cain’t speek ’mericun? What makes them so speshul?”

We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.

by Stirrups on Jul 14, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Authoring a book renders a person neither literate, nor intelligent, nor authoratative.

We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.

by Stirrups on Jul 14, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hilarious

And so, so telling.

by ReggieBullits on Jul 14, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Check, please

"I've got more action than my man John Woo
And I've got mad hits like I was Rod Carew" - Shure Shot, The Beastie Boys

by Zoe Necrosis on Jul 14, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh. My.

His original post made me think of that one idiot troll on the MLB forums, who shall remain nameless but Rev knows of whom I speak.

.... as sexy as socks on a rooster.

by opiejeanne on Jul 14, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ann Coulter is real?

And some robot sent here to kill us all?

Who knew?

RIP #34

by linkbruin on Jul 14, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you guys done yet?

Seriously, the post wasn’t racist and depicting Bucky as a KKK member is beneath
this site. Its not terribly wrong to think that a guy like Vlad who has been here since
’04 could put together a few English sentences by now.

by blb76 on Jul 14, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, let's get a few things straight here...

1.) Dick Bremer and Bert Blyleven are outstanding broadcasters. How can you hate guys that sip on Coors Lights and drop f-bombs while on the air?

2.) Ken Harrelson and Steve Stone suck, along with every other member of the White Sox organization. I would rather continuously stab my ear drums with an ice pick than listen to those two jerk each other off in the booth for the duration of a baseball game.

3.) Even Doyer haters can agree that Vin Scully has a great baseball mind and “broadcasted” his way into baseball immortality years ago.

RIP NA

by NoDakHalo on Jul 13, 2009 4:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Blyleven excellence.

“Oh, we’re live?”

Awesome.

At least Torii was “swingin’ a hot bat.”

Apologies in advance.

by Red114 on Jul 14, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Summary: Bucky thinks that the players should all speak English.

My take:
Well, the fact remains that we (the United States/MLB) have recruited the best players world-wide to participate in our baseball league. This league offers the best competition, so they want to play here. The fact remains that as long as you are bringing in people of this caliber to play the game, we do not care if they speak Swahili. We can figure out a way to communicate and as long as they “play well with others” who care what language they speak?

I find it telling that Scioscia has even adapted by learning to speak Spanish to his players. This shows that he appreciates the talent level from Spanish-speaking nations.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Jul 14, 2009 12:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

On the chessboard of immigration policy, you are standing on a pivotal square.

If a person wishes to immigrate here to do business with me, they need to be able to communicate on my terms or they will fail. However, if I wish to import a person to do business on my behalf, I better be able to communicate with them or I will fail.

We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.

by Stirrups on Jul 14, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Précisement!

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Jul 14, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

unless

the people you are trying to communicate with are the same people you immigrated with and speake your language. Such as in the case of heavily populated Cuban areas in Florida, where the people don’t need to learn English. There are cases of businesses that dont speak English but produce great profits.
But those are outliers because they are rare cases.

Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.

by princeton11loveshalos on Jul 14, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, that is not such an outlier. It is absolutely true and common.

At some early tipping point the immigrant population reaches a critical mass sufficient to enable exchanges among themselves. Immediately, an environment exists that allow further immigration that has nothing to do with the original premise of doing business with me. Frankly, I would be surprised to learn that this does not happen 100% of the time, across all imigrant cultures in all parts of the world across all recorded history (forced labor not included).

We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.

by Stirrups on Jul 14, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chinatown in San Francisco is an illustration of that

or it still was up until 2001 when I left the area.

.... as sexy as socks on a rooster.

by opiejeanne on Jul 14, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chinatown, Koreatown, Little Saigon, Little Italy, Germantown

Thai communities, Latin communities, Greek communities, French-Cajun rural parishes, Russian-Jewish districts, Little Havana, Little Tokyo, on and on and on. And this certainly is everywhere in America. It’s kind of the whole point of this country. If there was one single concept that defined what is our culture, IMHO that concept would be “Change”. We thrive on rebuild/renew/refresh. This is tailor-made for an open-armed immigration policy. And an open-armed immigration policy is tailor-made for protectionist reactions from those immigrants now well-established.

We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.

by Stirrups on Jul 14, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey you forgot

about his Physioc defense.

Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.

by princeton11loveshalos on Jul 14, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol!

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Jul 14, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish the Angels had a player that could speak Swahili

That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey

by anaheim angels on Jul 15, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

kinda glad someone spoke up

i felt like i was the only one on this site who preferred phys and hud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlTvSUCCqPo

by ANewFoundThrice on Jul 14, 2009 7:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The thing is...

most of these guys probably DO speak English in a reasonable capacity. aside from a couple of the guys, pretty much everybody speaks English in the clubhouse. you trying to tell me that Mike Napoli and Torii Hunter have never had a conversation with Vlad or with Kendry? come on. they’re just a little shy in front of 40,000 people and the cameras and mics. i don’t blame them, though i’d love to hear what they have to say sometimes in English. maybe if you want to understand them, you should learn how to speak Spanish, eh?

by ghsu on Jul 14, 2009 7:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It isn't the bloody language barrier which I'm pissed about

If you go to the tunnel where the media trucks are after games, that is where Kendry comes out about 40 minutes after the game ends.

In the few times, I’ve seen him, I couldn’t even get him to look at me for an autograph. My friend tried the same thing and Kendry just kept walking like he wasn’t there.

It is the same thing with Vlad, except I’ve come to expect the cold shoulder treatment.

It maybe petty to expect, but while Vlad and Kendry are pretty good baseball players, it would help if they acknowledged the fans once in a while with a smile, wave or an autograph.

Or is Kendry perhaps the one who needs to sit?

by BBFan1 on Jul 14, 2009 10:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Even Spanish speakers get the cold shoulder from those guys. Jeez…you want an autograph, go to ebay. I got Vlads for $20 and Kendry was about $3 last year. The classic cold-shoulder autograph guy … Garret Anderson? I got dozens of his autos via ebay each for less than $5. I am talking about the certified from the manufacturer auto cards.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Jul 16, 2009 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think after the game is the wrong time to ask

Tired. Long day. Just wanna get home. I’ve gotten both Vlad and Kendry’s before a game. Try then

RIP #34

by linkbruin on Jul 16, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fizz is not bad at all, you guys are ridiculously hard on him.

the broadcasting around baseball is ATROCIOUS and BORING. He’s been here almost 15 years and all angel fans do is whine about him, well you know what he’s been apart of some of the biggest, most famous calls in Angels history, and did a damn good job with them.

and how can anyone hate Hud? he’s come around since being a blind homer early in his career. How can anyone stand Markus and Goob? no offense but I feel like i’m watching the game on the radio with Rory.

by Go Ducks on Jul 20, 2009 4:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Haven’t been able to find much to agree with you, on, but you meet eye-to-eye with me regarding Phys and Hud (and loving the Angels).

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Jul 21, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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