signing Lackey and adding players before trade dead line
by Ca1IFORNIA ANGELS on Jul 20, 2009 10:18 AM PDT
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PrintI still believe Lackey is one of the top 5-7 pitchers in the Majors when healthy. He is solid and is at his best during the pennant race. I hope we can sign him, he is an Angel and I would like to see him in an Angel uniform for ever. When healthy he eats up innings and has an era below 3.
Also, for the trade deadline, I think we still need a middle reliever or set up man. Adding another starter like Holliday or Haren would really help. I would also like to see one big bat added as I believe in the playoffs, we still need a powerful bat. What scares me is that if Vladdy or Hunter is off in a playoff series we are done. Where as Boston or NY can afford to maybe have their two best players not swinging the bat well in the playoffs and still when a series. We still lack power.
Now, if you have nothing positive to say, just do not reply, it would be nice if all of us true ANGEL fans would get along and be civil on this website, starting with Rev.
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Lackey has never had an ERA below 3
Arte eats dinner in Corona Del Mar; Tony Reagins eats dinner at the Corona Del Taco
my gut is we can re-sign big john...
at the end of spring training i didn’t think so but now with mlb teams tightening the pursestrings and his injury, albeit not serious at the beginning of the season i don’t see a team blowing him away with an offer. if we could come close/match any other offer he gets, i think he stays put.
Your grammar, syntax, spelling and punctuation are all improving.
Well done!
We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.
by Stirrups on Jul 20, 2009 10:47 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
And they're all still terrible.
By the way:
Roy Halladay is a pitcher for the Toronto Blue Jays, Matt Holliday plays left field for the Oakland Athletics.
Screw this “let’s play nice” stuff. Figure it out.
RIP NA
Oh I know. It''s called a backhanded compliment.
We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.
Lackey needs to signed over anyone else.
Halladay would be nasty in an angels uniform you know the angels love them some prospects, God Damn I hate prospects. You dont think Kendry, Juan, and Napoli can carry the load if Hunter and Vladdy are struggling.
Yeah I do...
We have continued to score runs excluding yesterdays game at pretty much the same pace. What are you basing your assumption on?
R.I.P. King Ad-Rock #34
Good post.
I think the offense will be OK, especially once Rivera, Torii and Vlad are all back at 100%. The bullpen and starting pitching are the lingering achilles heel. Bring on those Red Sox! Let’s break that spell once and for all.
I love this team.
I have to disagree with what you said about our offense. We do not need anymore bats.
We are 6 -1 with Vlad and Torii on the DL, and missing Juan for 3 of those games. Do you think that the Yanks would go 6-1 without Tex and A-Roid? Or Bosux w/o Youk and Bay? The years of us actually needing a ‘big bat’ at the deadline are over.
Our offense is som multifaceted now. I just watched us score 11 with Maicer, Aybar, Willits, Matthews and Mathis in the lineup. That is an example, not an abberation.
What we definitely need is Bullpen help.
by Big Bad, 'Vlad'! on Jul 20, 2009 12:26 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
What about Figgy?
I think he is a free agent next year, too. We want him back! Can we afford to sign both of them?
Figgins should be our Number One priority.
He is quickly becoming an MVP candidate. Figgy must be back next year!
Light up the Freakin Halo!
Heh.
I was muttering at the radio a couple of days ago because the caller would not say Halladay, kept calling him Holiday, and Terry Smith politely corrected him like five times during the call.
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Yeah this has been bugging me lately
It’s really not that difficult. One is a gunslinger (a pitcher), and the other is day off of work.
RIP #34
or a guy who reportedly hits the ball and has another "l" in his name
which I left out. Holliday. Duh.
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one game below 500 and have to beat Texas
The A’s are weak,the stat I am concerned with at the All-Star break is that the Angels are 1 game below 500 against American League teams, but were 14-4 against the National League West. I think you need some power in a short 5 game series against the Red Sox or Yanks. I know we own the Yanks, but have a strange feeling if we have to play the Yanks this year that the Yanks would beat the Halos.
Also, we still have to beat Texas as the Halos are 2-7 or 2-9 against the Rangers this year, not good. I think Texas will make a move or two for pitching.
by Ca1IFORNIA ANGELS on Jul 20, 2009 1:22 PM PDT reply actions
Unless Texas gets Haren or Halladay
What difference does it make?
You make a good point about them only being 1 game over .500 against the AL.
However in regards to the power, we are likely to end up with 3-4 20+ homerun hitters (Morales, Hunter, Rivera, & possibly Napoli). If Vlad comes back from his injury and can swing the bat like he was doing before he got injured that is another power threat.
The front office should focus on the following Relief Pitcher, Starting Pitcher…Wash, Rinse & Repeat
R.I.P. King Ad-Rock #34
Another "Positive Only" reply:
It’s awesome that you realized that the Halos managed to keep pace with the most difficult half of their season, one of the more difficult schedules in the League, actually, despite all the hardships that they had to overcome early on!!!
And it’s brilliant on your part to notice the balance of their schedule is not as difficult and they need to stay focused on Texas as long as the Rangers remain viable! Excellent!!!
Here’s hoping that Texas will remember that they have run out of cash and are borrowing from the MLB in order to make payroll. And let’s hope that they also recall that they don’t want to lose any front line starters or top prospects, either. And all this to keep them from making any big time moves!
We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.
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We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.
Sorry. Was there a thread here that mentioned the Rangers having run out of money and
having to borrow from MLB to stay afloat? I was trying to remember if I read it here. Something to do with the sale of the franchise.
It was shocking when I first read it and is still shocking to me today.
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Oh. Right. I had your context wrong.
Yes. This was discussed here earlier. Search will will find it.
(I thought that your question was targeted at me borrowing my content from MLB…)
We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.
No. I come across as snotty or rude sometimes
but it’s rarely my intent to be either.
Sarcasm is a different matter, but it’s difficult to pull off when you can’t hear it dripping off of every word.
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I think you need a dripping sarcasm font.
Or button.
That or just mess with your apostrophe’s! (or apostrofees).
Sorry. I seem be combining mixing comments from some other bad comments in other posts.
I’ve never seen socks on a rooster…I’ll have to accept your observation that it’s pretty sexy though (cue the guitar/banjo duel song from Deliverance).
You have to understand
my mother was born in the Ozarks. Deep in the deep, dark Ozarks.
She was glad to move to California.
While all of that is true I got the sigline from a friend in Texas.
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On a different forum with different buttons, knobs, tubes, whistles and ladders
we use red font to denote sarcasm, or irony, or humor. I now have a lovely new Mac which does not allow me access to these toys.
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Tom Hicks
You can find some info here.
The Limey broke the story here (as far as I’m concerned), since he was following the story of Hicks’ investment group beginning to default on loans taken out to buy the Liverpool soccer team. A domino effect began, and the Rangers have since had to take out loans from MLB to cover operating expenses.
by George Kaplan on Jul 20, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank you. I went and found it and recognized it.
It still makes me shake my head.
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depends on how cute
and I promised myself I’d stay out of this thread
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
I see....
I know my Ozarks cousins are into that sort of thing*, but I didn’t know about Italians.
- I swear, one of my cousins has grandparents who are all double first cousins. My line was made up of men who were smart enough to ride the mule 5 miles down the road to court a non-related female, but their brothers and sisters were not so smart about it. Most of the family tree on that side does not branch, it twines.
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...and when you talk about the men riding mules for 5 miles...
…that doesn’t sound too good either.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
I meant the way my Grandpa Chester did in 1914,
when he went to court my Grandma Blanche.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/133200524_ee66793398.jpg
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It looks pretty smart.
Grandpa Chester was pretty smart, too. The note on the back says Easter Sunday and I would like to believe that that’s the name of the mule.
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Mr. Ed WAS done by an impressionist.
Mr. Ed was really a Zebra. Not kidding.
We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.
Oh yes, he WAS!!
We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.
No, he wasn't a Grevy's Zebra.
I thought you were kidding, but you’re not, are you?
Have you ever seen the show? Mr Ed was a Palomino. Does this:
http://www.horserides.org/mred.gif
look anything like this:
http://www.awf.org/files/3784_file_grevys2_Thomson.jpg
Second, this Urban Legend has been around for several years. Snopes debunked it a while back, which shouldn’t have been necessary for anyone who had ever seen the show:
http://www.snopes.com/lost/mistered.asp
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Oh heck, I forgot that Snopes ran it as a joke.
It may have originated with them.
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gotcha!
We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.
Whew.
You have no idea how many otherwise sane people have sent me that article and then insisted it was true. My father was one of them.
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That is why I rarely hand out my email address.
About 10 years ago, I spent way too much time replying back to “ALL” on those stupid rumor, urban legend. myths, and political diatribes. Pissed off a lot of people. I thought such a tack would get me filtered off those lists but, alas, no. It just gave those pissed off people a new target to send over more and more and more evidence that PT Barnum was right all along.
We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.
The problem is that I get this junk from my nearest and dearest
I can’t very well not give my dad or my close relatives my email address, and so I spend too much time replying to ALL. At least my dad is appreciative of my debunking efforts, the rest not so much. A lot of it was inflammatory political nonsense.
I have nearly abandoned one of my email addresses; I only check it once a week and ignore most of the mail. The people who don’t do this have the one I check every day.
My dad has my every day one but he sends his jokes and junk to the other one which really helps.
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Whew! here too...
…it took me a lot of years to accept a talking horse. Then you want me to believe zebras could talk too?
Too hard to believe.
since the team started 6-11...
having dealt with the adenhart tragedy… having lackey,santana, and escy on the DL… having a slow starting fuentes along with the entire bullpen struggling, having shields lost for the year, vlad gone for most of the year(so far), having howie struggle so bad, using a patchwork rotation since may, the angels are 46-27 since that start. and if you discount the 14-4 interleague mark that still leaves the halos a better than respectable 32-23 against the AL. As of monday the Angels were 1st in BA in the AL and 3rd in runs.. what more do you want? And finally yes the rangers have owned us so far this season but we have a soft part of the schedule coming up and the rangers are facing some summer heat and a tough part of their schedule. Lets make sure they can beat everyone else before getting crazy
Meet me @ the budweiser patio
by BigBangRobbDawgg on Jul 20, 2009 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Our Offense
can put up some numbers but wait until Vladdy and HK get hot, sweet damn should be beautiful. Hey Tony get us that ace…
So if the Yanks are missing A-Rod and Teix they still win?
I seriously doubt it.
Same with Red Sox. If they lose Youk and Bay they are done.
I was with you until your last smarmy comment
It’s the internet. And not taking a potshot at the word-salad with kamikaze punctuation that is your collective posts does not make someone a not-true Angel fan.
"I've got more action than my man John Woo
And I've got mad hits like I was Rod Carew" - Shure Shot, The Beastie Boys
Zoe
You are correct.
Also, next time i make a fan post… I will also, have the caveat that if anyone disagrees with what i am saying please don’t post.
Adenhart 1986-2009
Offense is Good
I didn’t think I’d say it this year, but we’re good. Let’s say Vlad AND Torii are off (since Vlad being off is a given, unless “slowchiro” is on to you). We still have big bats in Napoli, Rivera, and Morales. Faith in prospects and Johnny Rivers is paying off.
The bullpen isn’t a trainwreck anymore, but it’s certainly not running smoothly. A reliable arm would be great. I’d also take a good long look at Halladay, though Haren would have been a better grab.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart - Always an Angel
let me get this straight
You want to:
1) resign Lackey;
2) Trade for the biggest SP — Haren or Halliday;
3) Trade for a top Setup RP; and
4) Trade for a big bat
While you’re at it, why don’t you also ask for a house in Newport Coast, Jessica Biel & Alba, BMW, free from all US taxes, etc.
Be realistic for freaking once. Yes, trading for those pieces would obviously make us better. Every team would love to add a Halladay, a stud set-up guy and a big bat. But it’s not realistic. So just stop it already. It would take our whole farm and increase payroll big-time not just this year but the following 2-4 years because we’d have no cheap players coming in.
Go Angels!
That's not fair!
If you’re going to be realistic, then you can’t possibly understand that what the Angels need to do is trade for Miguel Cabrera and Jason Bay, then re-sign Lackey and add Haren, Halliday and Lincecum to the starting rotation.
by George Kaplan on Jul 20, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
And if you're going to be mean to me, don't reply
I’m not interested in your negativity, I’m interested in your supercool ideas for how to make the Angels the World Series winner in 2009.
What if we traded Willits and Quinlan to the Royals for Greinke? Then we wouldn’t have to go after both Haren and Halliday, since Greinke and Lincecum would be a good core to build around.
by George Kaplan on Jul 20, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Funk That
lets trade Weaver and Lackey for Manny…
They want power, We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Jul 20, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Weaver and Hunter
for Pujols
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Jul 21, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
While your writing skills seem to be improving...
Your posts would be better as responses to other posts. You pose no questions or lead any discussion, but instead just give a random opinion. Your opinions are welcome, but it isn’t necessary to start a new topic every time you want to express one.
Apologies in advance.
bottom line
Of course, all four moves cannot be made. But, the Angels have to make a move before the trade dead line. #1 priority would be a set up man, or middle relief. The red sox had injuries last year in the play offs . But, they had strong starting pitching. I also agree with a previous post, Figgy needs to be resigned. Valuable leadoff hitter who can play multiple positions. In closing, Wood, use him or move him. Amen.
by Ca1IFORNIA ANGELS on Jul 20, 2009 7:04 PM PDT reply actions
this bottom line
would have been much better — start and finish with it.
But certainly don’t start yet another thread and go all-wishful thinking on us.
Go Angels!
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