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Honoring Garret Anderson

 

Garret Anderson has been playing professional baseball at an extremely high level for nearly 17 years. That’s approximately 80% of my time here on Earth (yes, I’m a young one).  During this time, he has achieved a laundry list of accomplishments:

  • A three time All-star (2002, 2003, & 2005)
  • A two time AL Silver Slugger (2002-03
  • Finished 4th in the AL MVP vote (2002)
  •  All-Star game MVP and Home Run Derby winner (2003)
  • Finished 2nd in the AL Rookie of the Year vote (1995)
  • World Series Championship (2002)

Yet Garret still doesn’t get the respect he deserves.  "Lazy" and "lackluster" were common phrases that even Angel fans attached with the performance of the longtime Angel’s outfielder.  His hard work and dedication may have been overlooked by some, but his career numbers speak volumes.

 

In 15 seasons with the Angels, Anderson is the team’s career leader in almost every offensive category:

  • Runs, 1024.
  • Hits, 2368 (694 more than Tim Salmon, who is next on the list).
  • RBIs, 1292.
  • Doubles, 489 (Led MLB in 2002 with 56, Led AL in 2003 with 49).
  • Singles, 1572.
  • Extra base hits, 796.
  • Consecutive games with an RBI, 12.
  • RBIs in a single game, 10.
  • Games played for the Angels, 2013.
  • At bats total, 7989.
  • 2nd all-time with HRs, 272.

 

With that silky, smooth left handed uppercut swing, Garret was truly a poor-man’s Ken Griffey Jr.  So much like Griffey Jr., that I believe GA deserves Hall of Fame consideration.  Let’s take a look at the numbers.

 

Anderson currently has 505 doubles, which is 44th most in MLB history.  That’s more than Hall of

Famers Jimmie Fox, Reggie Jackson, Al Kaline, and only one behind Babe Ruth. 

 

Only four active players currently have more: Luis Gonzalez, Ken Griffey Jr., Ivan Rodriquez and Manny Ramirez.  All of which deserve some serious consideration in Hall of Fame voting (Lets disregard Manny’s recent suspension for performance enhancers).

 

At 37 years of age, Garret certainly has some gas left in the tank.  Let’s face it; Anderson left the Angels in the offseason because he still wanted to be a full time player.  So it is fair to assume that GA could play another two years. 

 

For the sake of argument, let’s estimate Garret will hit 25 doubles in each of the next two seasons.  This is a conservative estimate.  Anderson’s averages 39 two-baggers a season for his career, and 28 over the past three years.

 

Adding 50 doubles to his totals will put GA at 21st all-time, ahead of Tony Gwynn, Rodgers Hornsby, Lou Gehrig, Ted Williams, Willy Mays, Ricky Henderson and many other baseball greats.  Of the 22 who would be ahead on the list, 16 are Hall of Famers. Of the others, Craig Biggio and Jeff Kent aren’t yet eligible; Barry Bonds, Rafael Palmeiro, and Pete Rose will most likely never see the HOF for obvious reasons.

 

Anderson didn’t just hit doubles.  Many of his offensive statistics rank very highly in MLB history.

 

His 1,329 RBIs is 85th all-time.  That’s more than Roberto Clemente (HOF), Pete Rose, Todd Helton, and Ivan Rodriguez and one less than Hall of Famer Carlton Fisk.  With two more years averaging 70 RBIs (he averages 103 career, and 83 over the past three years), he could pass Jim Rice (HOF), Yogi Berra (HOF), Mark McGwire, and Robin Yount (HOF).

 

GA currently has 2,444 career hits, 14 away from becoming 100th all-time.  He has more hits than Manny Ramirez and has played one less year.  Over his career, Anderson averaged 190 hits per season, and 146 in the past three.  Using this number (146, another conservative estimate), two more years would put him at 50th all-time, ahead of Lou Gehrig, Ted Williams, and Jimmie Foxx.

 

While I’ll be the first to admit that #16 is my favorite Angel/MLB player of all-time, I do see both sides of this Hall of Fame query.  Garret is unlikely to reach 3,000 hits or 500 HRs.  He has never won an MVP, a batting title, or a Gold Glove.  He never led the league in runs, RBIs, or HRs.  He was never one to steal many bases, averaging only six per season.  Yet it was GA’s near 3:1 strikeout/walk ratio that was probably his biggest shortcoming. 

 

Despite all of this, I still believe that Garret’s career numbers will put him right at the cusp of Hall of Fame entitlement.  He certainly won't be a first time inductee, and similar to one of 2009’s inductees, Jim Rice, Anderson might have to wait till the very end of his HOF eligibility before he gets the nod. 

 

He may also share the same fate as players like Andre Dawson, Mark Grace, Harold Baines and other stars that have eluded HOF induction.  Players with fantastic career numbers, who consistently performed, yet were often tagged "good, but not great." 

 

One factor that plays in Anderson’s favor is that he has never been associated with the use of steroids or performance-enhancers.  And with the players of today’s "steroid era" under constant scrutiny, the requirements for future Hall of Fame inductees may change, possibly favoring consistent offensive players like Garret over the power sluggers commonly associated with steroid-use.

 

Another aspect of GA’s potential Hall of Fame credentials includes his World Series ring from 2002; a series that Anderson played a pivotal role in. In a now-famous, must-win Game 6, down 3-5 in the bottom of the eighth, Garret singled and proceeded to score the winning run on a Troy Glaus double. 

 

In Game 7, GA doubled down the right field line with the bases loaded, knocking in the three game-winning runs. The Angels beat the San Francisco Giants 4-1 and won their first World Series Championship.

 

While that is likely one of Garret’s most memorable games, I was lucky enough to be in attendance for what was certainly GA’s most prolific offensive performance, as well as my most memorable sports moment.  It was August 21, 2007, a day before my birthday, and Anderson slugged an amazing ten RBIs against the Yankees.  Two homeruns, a grand slam and a three run shot, as well as a pair of RBI doubles led to the Angel’s record ten RBI game.

 

That night Garret received the first curtain call of his long and often overlooked Angels career. He had become just the 13th player in MLB history to have ten or more RBIs in a single game.  He was one RBI away from tying the AL-record, and two away from tying the MLB record. 

 

To put this rare feat in perspective:

  • More players have thrown a perfect game, 18.*
  • More players have hit 4 HRs in a game, 15. *
  • In fact, you are just as likely to see an unassisted triple-play.*

 

But most baseball fans are unaware of this fantastic achievement; just as many Angel fans aren’t aware of the amazing talent that was Garret Anderson.  In my mind, this underrated and underappreciated outfielder holds a place as one of the greatest players to ever don a halo.

 

Whether it is retiring #16, or inducting GA into the Hall of Fame, I am extremely hopeful that Angel fans and baseball fans alike will take notice to the great career of Garret Anderson, which continues to this day…

 

 -KE

 

 

 

*John Shiffery: "Garret Anderson and that Lucky 10 spot"

**Other Stats from Baseball-Reference.com

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jokes like “If GA weren’t so lazy…” are just jokes, making fun of the people that do call him lazy…

Figgins is an All-Star. Period. Congrats, Figster!

by Figgi4life on Jul 26, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions  

hoping

people realize this, but whatevs…

by Rev Halofan on Jul 26, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got mad once about that,

but someone explained….

Figgins is an All-Star. Period. Congrats, Figster!

by Figgi4life on Jul 26, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow....

that was a great fanpost….you are a great addition to the community……

GA is and always will be….The Coolest Cat in Baseball.

Figgins is an All-Star. Period. Congrats, Figster!

by Figgi4life on Jul 26, 2009 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

He came to sign autographs...

one Saturday morning in the early/mid 90s at a baseball camp. He was polite and seemed to have a great time. He chatted with me and other campers, basically, he treated us with respect.

Jim Edmonds also came along. Obviously hungover, he didn’t even crack a smile, and was rude to many at the camp.

I’ll always remember GA for his class…especially with that active comparison to his outfield mate.

In Remembrance of Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson. Heal soon Jon Wilhite.

I want Andrew Thomas Gallo to be a pinata, and the Angels supply the bats...

by Slasher52 on Jul 26, 2009 3:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Man IDK if G.A. does go into the Hall

Please get rid of Speier. "Yes, I suck."- Jose Guillen.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, Marquis Cooper, Steve McNair, and Frank Grimes, or Grimey, as he liked to be called

by JoseGuillenSux on Jul 26, 2009 3:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Great piece!

I have enjoyed GA through the years. A few days ago MLB network had that free preview of their “Extra Innings” package, and I got a chance to watch him as a Brave! I am thrilled that he doing well with that team, and not to mention that him, McCann, and Prado are on my fantasy team! As for the HOF, I put GA in the same category as Bill Buckner and most of all, Andre Dawson-damn good, but not great (which you could put 20% of HOF members in).

Gimme a cigarette

by tmat on Jul 26, 2009 4:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Back on Topic...

While GA might be one of my favorite angels ever, i don’t think he deserves in the HOF. I think Bobby Grich has a better argument.

Adenhart 1986-2009

by cupie on Jul 26, 2009 4:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Great article

Thanks for the link

by #1Angelsfan on Jul 26, 2009 5:45 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think Grich deserves HOF no doubt

Anderson is borderline at best IMO

That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey

by anaheim angels on Jul 26, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Angels.

In Remembrance of Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson. Heal soon Jon Wilhite.

I want Andrew Thomas Gallo to be a pinata, and the Angels supply the bats...

by Slasher52 on Jul 29, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

This post is, almost verbatim

the same exact thing I already have written out to submit to HoF voters every single year of his eligibility.

If he doesn’t make it, fuck baseball. There are far worse already in, and far less deserving on a human level, too.

In so many stats he is as good as, or better, than so many of the all-time greats.

As of right now, the only thing dividing him from the all-time greats in ‘average’ based statistics is walks. And I’ll be fucking damned if a man should be held out of the Hall of Fame solely because he didn’t see ball four enough times.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jul 26, 2009 6:03 PM PDT reply actions  

If GA weren't so lazy

this post would’ve been unnecessary.

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

by Moondoggy on Jul 26, 2009 6:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Because he would have posted it himself???

Please get rid of Speier. "Yes, I suck."- Jose Guillen.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, Marquis Cooper, Steve McNair, and Frank Grimes, or Grimey, as he liked to be called

by JoseGuillenSux on Jul 26, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

If GA played in New York or Boston,

We wouldn’t be having this discussion. The [CENSORED] East Coast Media would be all over “Future HOF’er GA”.

Angels fan since '67

by red floyd on Jul 26, 2009 7:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Exactly

Put his career numbers next to Jeter…they compare quite favorably:

Games GA 2089 DJ 2076
Hits GA 2444 DJ 2656
Runs GA 1049 DJ 1529
2B’s GA 505 DJ 430
HR’s GA 279 DJ 217
RBI’s GA 1329 DJ 1043
BA GA .296 DJ .316

by Idaho87 on Jul 26, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Probably not a lot of us up here

Grew up in OC…I’ve been in Blaine County for 18 years. Usually get down for one series at The Big A every year.

by Idaho87 on Jul 26, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool, there might be one more Idaho Angels fan on the site, I have seen somebody from Blackfoot

on the site meter and there is somebody on here that went to Boise State. I live in Pocatello.

Angels in 09!

by tanana40 on Jul 26, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good to know

I’m sick and tired of all the M’s fans in this area (although it has been fun watching them suffer the last many years). It used to be great having the Angel’s rookie team in Boise (if I remember correctly, GA played for the Boise Hawks, along with a bunch of other guys who made it to the big league squad). I used to go see games there all the time, now the Hawks are part of the Cub’s organization.

by Idaho87 on Jul 26, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes on the Hawks who were managed by Tom Kotchman, I get to see the Orem Owlz play at least once a year in Idaho Falls

and I make an annual trip or two to Salt Lake to see the Bees and thank goodness for the Internet. It was tough as a kid picking up the Angels’ games on the Internet on the Idaho desert but after dark I did and that is how I became a fan. Nice talking to you..

Angels in 09!

by tanana40 on Jul 26, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Keep up the support in Eastern Idaho

Nice visiting….Great screen name, I loved Tanana when I was a kid.

by Idaho87 on Jul 26, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

good research

never realized how much those two’s stats were alike

Please get rid of Speier. "Yes, I suck."- Jose Guillen.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, Marquis Cooper, Steve McNair, and Frank Grimes, or Grimey, as he liked to be called

by JoseGuillenSux on Jul 26, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish it were that easy, but Jeter plays at SS

wheras GA is a COF. It does make a huge difference.

That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey

by anaheim angels on Jul 27, 2009 2:22 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I understand and agree...

The point was to confirm red’s point regarding the east coast bias of shoe-in, guaranteed, first ballot, etc., Derek Jeter vs the completely under-appreciated GA, who has put up similar offensive numbers and done a fine job fielding his position. Look at GA’s offensive production vs newly enshrined Bosux outfielder/DH Jim Rice:

Games: GA 2089 JR 2089 (weird)
Hits: GA 2444 JR 2452
Runs: GA 1049 JR 1249
2B: GA 505 JR 373
HR: GA 279 JR 382
RBI: GA 1329 JR 1451
BA: GA .296 JR .298

GA probably wont catch him in HR and RBI, and will never make 8 all star popularity contests,but IMHO, they compare favorably enough to merit discussion for GA as HOF material. Unfortunately, due to playing in obscurity on the West Coast, that discussion will only occur on HH.

by Idaho87 on Jul 27, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

That HR difference is pretty significant isn't it?

And it’s not as if Rice is considered clearly worthy of the Hall. You can’t compare someone to the bottom of the barrel who has better numbers and expect that to be a convincing argument to enshrine GA.

by snowhor on Jul 27, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Jim Rice could get inducted

I don’t see how GA could not get inducted. I was really hoping he would retire as an Angel, but economically it didn’t make sense…a point I don’t really like conceding. Maybe he’ll take some sweetheart 1-day/1-year deal after Atlanta so he can retire as an Angel.

RIP #34

by linkbruin on Jul 26, 2009 8:46 PM PDT reply actions  

No one gets into the Hall for doubles.

Of all the Angels that aren’t Wally Joyner, GA is my favorite. Unfortunately, the argument just isn’t strong enough and only puts GA in the “Best Player Not in the Hall” category. All the HOF and probable HOF players you mention were exceptional in some way, hits, HRs, BA or they were exceptional for their position. Without meeting even any of the traditional milestones for greatness (3000, 500, MVP, etc.) the HOF just isn’t a possibility.

That said, you do raise an interesting twist to the discussion: steroids. Had players not used steroids so extensively in this era would GA numbers be better? Would he have been a stronger MVP candidate against other non-juicers? Would he have gotten more hits of Roger Clemens? If voters in the future ask these questions then maybe there is a chance.

Captain, there are doubt's...

by Match Day 5 on Jul 26, 2009 9:08 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

If GA weren't so lazy

he’d already be in the hall.

*Ade-Rock 34*

by TheTypingFiend on Jul 26, 2009 9:37 PM PDT reply actions  

It was a shame to see GA go. I alway hate to see long time angels go, and his departure was felt right up their with erstad, edmonds, and perci.

If I were the owner I would have signed him just so he could retire an angel, but from a winning argument. He doesnt fit our offense anymore. His numbers were declining rapidly, and its prob smarter that the angels cut loose.

by robi s on Jul 27, 2009 3:41 AM PDT reply actions  

I was reallly conflicted too.

I love GA, but his production was in decline. As it turns out, Juan Rivera was the right move.

When he retires, I hope hope GA returns as a coach or in some other capacity. Thought his years as a Angel and even when the ties were severed, he showed a lot of class. He’s a good man.

by sothball on Jul 27, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd love to see him as a HoF'er

But he’ll need 3,000 hits to get in.

by Riverrun on Jul 27, 2009 9:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Are we allowed to appreciate GA and recognize that he wasn't good enough for the hall?

GA was one of my favorite players as a kid. I will continue to be a fan of his, but not make him out to be something he’s not.

by snowhor on Jul 27, 2009 10:57 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

We're all fans of Uncle Garrett's Sleepytime Jamboree

(love that name – kiped it from the Braves’ fans)

But I htink most of us conceeded long ago that he’s probably not a Famer.

Whatever.

Bottom 3rd, Game 7. That’s all I have to say.

"I've got more action than my man John Woo
And I've got mad hits like I was Rod Carew" - Shure Shot, The Beastie Boys

by Zoe Necrosis on Jul 27, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

GA needs to get back to the AL

If he wants a chance at the HOF, but my assumption is that his baseball clock is nearing midnight. He’s not having a bad year out here in Georgia (.292/.325/.756/7HR/37RBI), which is almost exactly what he did last year as he did as an Angel if his projections hold.

If he wants to hang around, and join an AL team as a DH, he has a shot.

In Remembrance of Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson. Heal soon Jon Wilhite.

I want Andrew Thomas Gallo to be a pinata, and the Angels supply the bats...

by Slasher52 on Jul 27, 2009 11:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Garret Anderson is awesome

And if he can suck up playing DH, I really do think he could get 2- more years of solid production out before retiring, with a (very) outside shot at that magical 3000. I do think that the Stoid Area has completely screwed up what good power numbers are (the guy will probably eclipse 300 HRs but that means nothing because 500 now is what 300 was 20 years ago).

You cannot be a racist Angels fan. Our history is made up of all kinds of people, and I root for all of them when they don that cap. Garret Anderson is right up there with Tim Salmon as an all-time Angels great, and if he can vacate the outfield for the DH position, he really could put together a few more seasons that make him a solid candidate for the Hall. I’d rather see a clean GA than a dirty Barry or McGwire join the ranks of the greatest all-time players.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart - Always an Angel

by Kernel on Jul 27, 2009 11:54 AM PDT reply actions  

"You cannot be a racist Angels fan"

Yes we can!

Seriously, race has historically been a factor in fan treatment of some players, including maybe Garret now and again, but largely that period is behind us.

by mattwelch on Jul 28, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Careful

Posts will be deleted again!

In Remembrance of Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson. Heal soon Jon Wilhite.

I want Andrew Thomas Gallo to be a pinata, and the Angels supply the bats...

by Slasher52 on Jul 29, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

If GA happened to have been white, latino, asian, croatian, or pacific asian,

he would still be lazy.

Mike Napoli speaks softly and carries a big stick.

by 44FAN on Jul 27, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

About RoY

The Sporting News, at least, did name him RoY, and anyone who takes a single look at the lines knows he should have beaten Marty Cordova, hands-down.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart - Always an Angel

by Kernel on Jul 27, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions  

GA is not a hall of famer.

He is a stat compiler. He’s played forever so he’s bound to tally up large career numbers. He was a good player, but not a great one. His career .794 OPS for a middle of the order hitter will help establish his slightly-above-mediocrity career. I love GA as much as the next Halo fan, but realistically, he isn’t a hall of famer.

"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana

by Chzburger Jones on Jul 27, 2009 3:02 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

He may also share the same fate as players like Andre Dawson, Mark Grace, Harold Baines and other stars that have eluded HOF induction. Players with fantastic career numbers, who consistently performed, yet were often tagged “good, but not great.”

This is exactly how I feel. I love him, he’s one of the best Angels of all time, but he just isn’t a HOF caliber player IMO. However, we should most definitely retire his number. Of course, I think Salmon’s number should be retired too and that obviously isn’t going to happen.

RIP Nick. We will miss you!

by KingF15h on Jul 30, 2009 12:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Number hasnt been reissued

it will most definitely be retired

That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey

by anaheim angels on Jul 31, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Garrett Anderson vs Bobby Abreu

Baseball Reference provides similarity scores for players and Garrett shows up as one of the 10 most similar players to Bobby Abreu.

Looking at the two players thru age 35 (Bobby still has about 1/3rd of his age 35 season to play so I’ll project out the rest of Bobby’s season):

ABs Garrett 7432 Bobby 7100
BA Garrett .297 Bobby .301
Hits Garrett 2205 Bobby 2140
2B Garrett 462 Bobby 484
3B Garrett 32 Bobby 56
HR Garrett 257 Bobby 256
RBI Garrett 1208 Bobby 1196

Those are almost identical numbers

Now for the not identical:

BB Garrett 368 Bobby 1260
SB Garrett 71 Bobby 350
Runs Garrett 958 Bobby 1275

Bobby has walked a whopping 900 times more than Garrett. He’s also faster on the basepaths, but that’s pretty incidental in relation to the walk differential. Put it together and thru age 35 Bobby will have produced about 300 more runs while using 300 fewer outs than Garrett Anderson. That’s a pretty huge difference.

Of course, Bobby has a pretty big uphill climb to be considered for the HoF. He’ll have to pass 1500 runs and 1500 RBIs, 2500 Hits and 1500 BBs. Wouldn’t hurt to hit 300HRs and 400 SBs. His case would be that he brought all the skills for a long time. Uphill, but doable if he remains healthy and productive for about 3 more years.

Garrett’s only shot is to somehow last long enough to reach 3000 hits. That seems like an awfully long shot at this point unless he hire Julio Franco as a trainer.

Nice player though, he’d be identical to Bobby Abreu, if he could have only walked 900 more times (or at age 37 1000 more times).

by St.Philly on Aug 2, 2009 12:36 AM PDT reply actions  

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