Indians Beat Angels while Talking Kendrick for Cliff Lee Trade
Final Score in Los Angeles of Anaheim: Angels 6, Indians 8
All Star closer Brian Fuentes blew a save for the first time in a long time as the Cleveland Indians shrugged off a 2HR night by Kendry Morales and a back-to-back-to-back HR outburst by Juan Rivera, Mike Napoli and Morales and came back with a 3 run Victor Martinez blast followed by a Jhonny Peralta solo shot in the 9th inning to win 8-6.
The Angels held Howie Kendrick out of the lineup on Monday and if he is in it tomorrow night at Angel Stadium, it may be in an Indians jersey. With a deal for Roy Halladay to the Angels dead on the Angels refusal to part with owner Arte Moreno's favorite employee shortstop Erick Aybar, the Angels are matching up well with the Tribe's need: a young 2Bman who is inexpensive and loves the fastball for a reliable #2 starter who could theoretically pitch deep into the playoffs.
But they won't be getting to the playoffs with the effort exuded tonight - starter Joe Saunders was lucky to get out of the game only giving up 4 Earned Runs and Closer Brian Fuentes was on the spot to allow the offensive flood that had been banging on the damn Angels dam all night. Carl Pavano could not accept the gift of early run support and allowed the trifecta HRs in the 2nd inning. Saunders put everythign in the heart of the plate and the Indians had a deja vu when Fuentes landed slow fastball after slow fastball for hearty hit to hungrey hitters looking to get traded to a winner.
Then Angels lead in the American League West shrank to 2.5 Games over the Texas Rangers.
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Sorry Brian.....
normally Im on your side………but tonight……no bueno, just not your night buddy
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 27, 2009 10:20 PM PDT reply actions
All Saunders.
Sick of watching this guy struggle through every inning.
Go away.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
saunders
5 innings!!!
i mean u know we have a shitty bullpen
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Jul 27, 2009 10:22 PM PDT reply actions
Oh,and HK for Lee....
Love you Howie, but DO IT.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
Hater!
Fuentesaurus just had a bad burrito prior to tonights game, he’ll recover overnight.
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Jul 27, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Mike Napoli speaks softly and carries a big stick.
by 44FAN on Jul 27, 2009 10:23 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Saunders may suck
and Fuentes may usually be rock solid, but you can’t come into the game with a 2 run lead, record no outs, and swap the leads.
All failure on the 9th inning blow-a-thon.
Bring back Torii.
by shiftyeyedgoat on Jul 27, 2009 10:24 PM PDT reply actions
let me use that magic spray
and heal torii this instant
i’ll be right back
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Jul 27, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw Torii hamming it up out in the bullpen. What the heck did he say that caused Fuentesauraus to suck? ;)
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 27, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuentes
and Fuentes may usually be rock solid, but you can’t come into the game with a 2 run lead, record no outs, and swap the leads.
All failure on the 9th inning blow-a-thon.
Swap out “Fuentes” for “Nathan” and you’d have what Twins fans were saying the other day. We said it about Frankie a few times, too.
It happens with any closer, no matter how good.
by George Kaplan on Jul 28, 2009 5:45 AM PDT up reply actions
as much as fuentes was the blame
he’s been doing great for us
but saunders has just been struggling and nothing new here today
Please get rid of Speier. "Yes, I suck."- Jose Guillen.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, Marquis Cooper, Steve McNair, and Frank Grimes, or Grimey, as he liked to be called
by JoseGuillenSux on Jul 27, 2009 10:24 PM PDT reply actions
Im very sad to say this but Funtues.
Your still the best but you pitched like a man with no arms.
Nick Adenhart.
by WillGoAngels27 on Jul 27, 2009 10:25 PM PDT reply actions
correction fuentes saunders reggie gmj and quinlan all suck 8============D
by Willtits on Jul 27, 2009 10:25 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
hey GMJ got 2 hits
just with nobody on base, the time a hit would have really changed the game he hit into a tailor made double play. If the Angels have any questions about Torii coming back they need to get another OF. GMJ doesn’t cut it out there.
Where's Nate Haynes when we need him?
Seriously GMJ is there strictly for his defense, Willits positively sucks and Q might’ve helped if Sosh allows hime to pinch hit.
Co-BOTG=GMJ, Reggie, Sando and Sosh
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Jul 27, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Indeed...boring as ever, probably affected the team tonight
The team must win tomorrow as I’ll be there enjoying Retro Night!
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Jul 27, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
No big guys
I would rather loose a game with only one or two guys blowing it then watch the whole team struggle. we’ll be fine
we’ll be fine
I believe that was someone’s sig last year.
It’s a great sentiment. Thanks.
Angels fan since '67
I blame K-Rod
The time is out of joint; oh cursed spite, that ever I was born to set it right.
by chairmanofthebar on Jul 27, 2009 10:28 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, his playoff choke performances will be missed dearly.
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Jul 27, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuentes
Dude doesn’t mess around when he blows a save. Not the garden variety 1 run blown lead, this guy shits the bed when he has a bad night and it leads to a L.
At least frankie had the decency to keep it tied when he blew one.
Hoping Kendrick is an Angel still.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Jul 27, 2009 10:28 PM PDT reply actions
haha i was thinking the same
he had been SO good it was like he needed to get a bunch of bombs out of his system or something
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Jul 27, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Well remeber at the start of the season he gave up bombs. And didnt for a long time!
He gets thes out hes going to be good for along time!
Nick Adenhart.
by WillGoAngels27 on Jul 27, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
hahaha....right? Jesus, Fuentes at least make it interesting...
Load the bases and get like 2 outs before you blow it. Just dont come in pitching BP….
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jul 28, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
What are your sources on this Kendrick for Lee trade?
Just wondering…
R.I.P.N.A.
by TheAngelsAngels on Jul 27, 2009 10:29 PM PDT reply actions
It's a good trade but I still haven't given up on Kendrick
I was ready for him to be one of my favorite Halos. I am conflicted…
R.I.P.N.A.
by TheAngelsAngels on Jul 27, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Howie Kendrick is the Angels' version of Barack Obama...
He came in with all this potential and hype, and everyone loved him even though he hadn’t done a thing to deserve it. And now, despite his chronic failure to live up to expectations, people still make excuses for him. I say we get rid of Howie now before the rest of the league wakes up and realizes just how overrated he is.
"We're Rock Stars... We're Lakers."
-- Lamar Odom
"We had the skull-and-crossbones on our helmets, the black jerseys, and the whole bit... and we lived it."
-- George "The HitMan" Atkinson
"WE STOMPED YOU OUT!"
-- Michael Strahan
by 5_Giant_Raider_Clipper_Laker_13 on Jul 28, 2009 1:43 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, well cleaning up eight years of George W. Bush shitting the bed is going to take some time.
Mike Napoli speaks softly and carries a big stick.
by 44FAN on Jul 28, 2009 2:48 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
zing!
They want power, We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Jul 28, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Leave the politics out of it.
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
by hauldog on Jul 28, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also Freddy Sanchez was held out of the Giants game(hes 6-8 career vs Lincecum.)
Thats another trade going down.
Nick Adenhart.
by WillGoAngels27 on Jul 27, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Willits and GMJ are both amateurs!
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Jul 27, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Terrible fucking loss
Texas won, we’re in a close race, and we get a 2 run 9th inning lead on a shitty team, and we can’t hold it. Just awful, awful, awful stuff. This is the kind of loss that feels like it can really cool down a team that is coming off a hot streak…a win would have tempered yesterday’s loss as being a bounce-back. A loss makes it seem like a potential trend. It really hurts.
And fuck any trade involving Kendrick. He’s finally back, and I don’t have faith in Cliff Lee keeping this charade up.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jul 27, 2009 10:33 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah but you trust Howie Kendrick??????
Hes gets hurt every year.. Its getting old. i love howie but Izzy is better then Howie.
Nick Adenhart.
by WillGoAngels27 on Jul 27, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe not Better.
More Consistent
Nick Adenhart.
by WillGoAngels27 on Jul 27, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
howie's career numbers > izturis
check izturis’ injury report.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Jul 27, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
check Howie's injury report
and don’t forget his awful baserunning
by Fred Fredrix on Jul 27, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Check Howie Career Playoff numbers.
Nick Adenhart.
by WillGoAngels27 on Jul 27, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I would take Howie over Izzy any day of the week
younger, equally healthy, and one hundred times more upside which he is right in the midst of displaying the last two plus weeks.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jul 27, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed, unbelievable how quick people are to bury Angels players on this site
Howie struggles to start the season, and people are ready to bury him. Yeah, sure he sucked in the playoffs. Dude’s a .300 career hitter. He’s hitting like .370 since he came back from Salt Lake. I don’t get the thinking sometimes.
If people want to bury guys like Speier and GMJ, I get that. I don’t get the hatred for Howie.
NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!
The Fail Bus leaves in five minutes, please make sure you are under it...
shitty team
but they can hit. These things will happen. And I’m conflicted about trading Howie, too, but to call what Cliff Lee has done the last 2 years a charade is flat out wrong. The guy is a legit number 2, maybe even a number 1. He would help us immensely. Have you noticed how shitty our starting pitching outside Lackey and Weaver has been?
Give Fuentes a break, it was one shitty game.
That said, the Angels can’t continue to put up with the abysmal production from the starters. The offense usually comes up with some clutch hits, but for these two losses they’ve gone missing. Just let Soth do his job and right the ship tomorrow.
Let's win one for Nick
by moosemastr on Jul 27, 2009 10:33 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Could not agree with you more
I have been preaching this to the empty ear of my girlfriend for months now. There is no question of his effort, but his ability to make the great play is just not there. Simply put.
R.I.P.N.A.
by TheAngelsAngels on Jul 27, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Howie swapped for Lee works for me!
Send Sando down and call up O’Sullivan ASAP Sosh!
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Jul 27, 2009 10:34 PM PDT reply actions
Thats all reagins haha.
Nick Adenhart.
by WillGoAngels27 on Jul 27, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
When was the last time he was even good this season?
I honestly cant remember
Please get rid of Speier. "Yes, I suck."- Jose Guillen.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, Marquis Cooper, Steve McNair, and Frank Grimes, or Grimey, as he liked to be called
by JoseGuillenSux on Jul 27, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
it was when we played the NL West.
SD, LAD, and COL were all good starts…
They want power, We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Jul 27, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
and of course we can't play the NL west again...
darn! snaps fingers
Please get rid of Speier. "Yes, I suck."- Jose Guillen.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, Marquis Cooper, Steve McNair, and Frank Grimes, or Grimey, as he liked to be called
by JoseGuillenSux on Jul 28, 2009 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Saunders is currently the worst pitcher in the majors
Everytime he goes out chances are he is going to get shelled. There is just no way he can be kept in the rotation pitching like this can there?
NA 34
dude have you seen the nationals?
They want power, We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Jul 27, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
hes 40-21, career.
he has had 6 straight bad starts not making it past the 7th inning, hes just not good right now.
They want power, We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Jul 27, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not stating one way or another here
Because I think Saunders is just kind of in the middle. But W-L is a terrible indicator of how good a pitcher is.
RIP #34
by linkbruin on Jul 27, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
it just shows.
that when he pitches we have a chance to win.
They want power, We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Jul 27, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully we have a chance to win any game
I don’t think there’s as big a relationship to the pitcher on the mound and how many runs we score as you’re assuming, and that’s the problem with the w-l stat.
RIP #34
to be honest im just a big Saundo fan.
but id did say it would be good in Halladay trade. I became a big fan when we pitched a the Big A with a VT hat.
They want power, We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Jul 27, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I really like Saunders as well
I think if he didn’t consistently get so far behind in counts he could be the great pitcher he showed flashes off earlier this year and last year. That’s his biggest thing.
RIP #34
he needs to pitch like he has a chip on his shoulder.
he still needs to prove a lot.
They want power, We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Jul 27, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I would Take John Lannan anyday. He is going to be good.
Nick Adenhart.
by WillGoAngels27 on Jul 27, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I would Take Stephen Strasburg anyday. He is going to be good.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
by vlad IS my man on Jul 27, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I would Take Craig Stammenanyday. He is going to be good.
My brother played for the Vermont Expos(Nationals Low A) in 2006 These were his two roomates. So I have a little bit of favortism.
Nick Adenhart.
by WillGoAngels27 on Jul 27, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Indians are dangerous
Getting pasted by the Tribe is something of an Angel Closer tradition.
Fuentes was just getting jumped in tonight. He’ll go back to his regular self tomorrow.
Trade for a bullpen arm only- no major deals.
by Rusty Carew on Jul 27, 2009 10:49 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
probably would also take
a prospect like S-Rod
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
by vlad IS my man on Jul 27, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
* in addition to HK
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
by vlad IS my man on Jul 27, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
realistically
I think the Angels need to ALSO add-in a mid prospect with that for CLE to bite………
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
by vlad IS my man on Jul 27, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
I heard that guy’s a great burger flipper!
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
by vlad IS my man on Jul 27, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
He also does well with those paper bags
Please get rid of Speier. "Yes, I suck."- Jose Guillen.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, Marquis Cooper, Steve McNair, and Frank Grimes, or Grimey, as he liked to be called
by JoseGuillenSux on Jul 28, 2009 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Howie+Reckling+Willits.
I like it. Throw in Justin Speier to.
Nick Adenhart.
by WillGoAngels27 on Jul 27, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
We need true #4 and #5 starters pronto!
I would be willing to promote O’Sullivan to #5 and replace Sando and Ervin with Lee.
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Jul 27, 2009 11:04 PM PDT reply actions
bummer of a game
missed it, but kinda glad i did. Fuentesaurus had a rough game…
On the Lee front – i’d try for a 3-for-1 swap…
Lee for Kendrick, Reckling and one of Walden/Bell/Smith/just about any other pitcher not named O’Sullivan.
If we had to, I’d throw in one more low prospect, but not another pitcher.
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
Horrible Game but....
every team will eventually have a game like this… just thank god this hasn’t been a usual occurrence like it was in the beginning of the year… I will be at the game tomorrow and I have a feeling that they will bounce back like they have done plenty of times before.
On a lighter note… anybody got advice for some 80’s gear for tomorrow… I was born in 88 so i kinda missed out on that whole decade
O ya, and I am a fan of HK for Lee, I’d say throw in another mid-level prospect, maybe a good/great AA guy, and see if CLE bites
One more thing…
Go Halos!
2009 Angels Season: Let's Do This For Nick
by trojanangelfan on Jul 27, 2009 11:43 PM PDT reply actions
This shit made me laugh!
its Kazmir,Lee,and halladay Angels are looking for. here are trade samples Saunders for Halladay,Santana for Kazmir,o’Sullivan for Lee are rotation would look like this
1.lackey,2.Halladay,3.Weaver4.Kazmir,5.lee.Thats an Awesome rotation + good arms.
Posted by: Angelsfan451 | July 28, 2009 at 12:04 AM
quite possibly the stupidest trade proposals I have ever heard, these trades would cost at least 10 players. you cant run a MLB team like its damn video game…
They want power, We want respect...
Seriously?
Is there a source for this idea? The Indians already have a solid 2B/SS in Asdrubal Cabrera (.302 / .358 / .424 at age 23). Kendrick is probably a step back from that. They want a real shortstop or a third baseman. Maybe it makes more sense that Kendrick was on the bench because Scioscia wanted to go with the hot-hitting switch hitters against the righty Pavano? If a trade was up in the air, the Indians also might wanted to have, you know, have a chance to scout him.
The Angels starting pitching right now is a whole lot of ugly. Cliff Lee isn’t going to help that much. He’d get 11 or 12 starts in before the end of the year. Those are starts that would have been taken by Palmer or O’Sullivan. However, the Angels are 15-3 when one of those two guys starts, not because either of them are particularly good pitchers, but because the team scores a lot of runs. The point is, the Angels have a decent chance of winning at least half of those remaining 11-12 games already. How much better would they do with Cliff Lee?
The problem is with Saunders and Santana. These guys are supposed to be the core of the rotation, so Mike Scioscia doesn’t have a choice besides sending them out to get shelled. If they aren’t hurt you can’t do anything besides send them back to Salt Lake, but then who’s going to pitch? The team doesn’t have the flexibility to swap guys out of their spots in the rotation like they have with the #5 position. They have nothing committed to guys like Palmer, Loux, O’Sullivan, or Ortega, they’ve just been moving them in and out and going with what works at that point in time. But with Joe and Ervin all that Scioscia and Butcher can do is hope they do better next time. Cliff Lee won’t solve that problem. They need to get some production from the guys they’re already depending on and winning in spite of (except the last two games).
by Suboptimal on Jul 28, 2009 12:36 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I feel as though inserting Cliff Lee into the rotation...
would light a fire under the asses of Sando and Santana which could lead to a beneficial sense of urgency and competition in the rotation. Also i am not sold on Soth not demoting either Sando or Ervin if both of them continue to struggle (case and point Jose Arredondo). Lastly, I think Cliff Lee would be very helpful in the playoffs. Simply put he would add to our currently floundering starting rotation and howie kendrick, i am sorry to those HK supporters, might not be too much to lose for some insurance. We already have a logjam in the infiled between Maicer, HK, Aybar, S-Rod, Wood, and Figgy. I say trade HK, rotate Wood/Maicer/Aybar at Second and Short, and Extend Figgy at third (with Woody playing there if Figgy needs a break). Obviously K-Mo at first… that sounds like a pretty solid infield to me and you still have S-Rod at AAA ready to go. Of course if Reagins could swing a deal for Lee centered around S-Rod than do it but I just don’t see that happening…
lmk what ya think
2009 Angels Season: Let's Do This For Nick
by trojanangelfan on Jul 28, 2009 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions
all true
but if we actually reach the playoffs, a front 3 of Lee, Lackey, and Weaver would boost our chances alot more than if we were to replace Lee with Saunders or Santana. Of course, that’s more than 2 months away, at which point either of those two guys could be pitching great by then…
Fuentes threw 13 pitches in the 9th. ALL were fastballs. Why?
Was it explained anywhere why he threw nothing but fastballs?
It was explained in that Cleveland scored four runs and Fuentes got no outs
NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!
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Wow.
Howie Kendrick and maybe a prospect for 1 1/2 years of Cliff Lee (a #2 pitcher, really)? ahahaha
If you want Lee it’s going to cost a haul similar to the CC deal. The Indians will not be competing next year if they trade Lee and will be looking for players that are near major league ready … not guys that are nearing their arbitration years.
So, you would be looking at 2, top 20 prospects (one being a pitcher) a low A guy (MI) and a throw-in AAA arm. That’s the kind of deal that would land Cliff Lee. That’s why he probably isn’t moving this year (unless somone gets needy).
The Indians don’t really have a need at 2b as they have Cabrera, Valbuena or even Barfield (if he ever turns it around). So, Kendrick becomes even less valueable to us.
by Toxicadam on Jul 28, 2009 6:47 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
What makes me think this deal might be going down is...
I thought for sure that Kendrick would pinch-hit for Willits in the ninth last night after Gary doubled. He didn’t. Why? It makes no sense unless they are talking the trade-talk.
by V-Hawk Angelorum on Jul 28, 2009 7:33 AM PDT reply actions
Offering Kendrick to the Tribe...
…looks like it was an invention of the Times writer. Nowhere in there does it say the Angels are actually discussing trading Howie. Howie and Wood have been starting against left-handed pitching, last night with a righty on the mound they both sit. As for Howie not pinch-hitting, Rivera could have pinch hit for Willits the other night in the bottom of the 9th and didn’t, that’s just Scioscia.
For what it’s worth, and speaking as an SBN Indians blogger, I don’t think the Indians are especially looking for a middle infielder, nor do I think they’d go for one who generally has a very low walk rate and is headed into arbitration. The only believable part is that Kendrick is really talented, and the Indians do buy low and sell high when they can.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jul 28, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The blown save overshadowed
another solid effort by Kevin Jepsen, who got the four most important outs of the game. Inherited two runners from Oliver and got out of the inning. Then he pitched a shaky 8th, getting out of a 1st and 3rd, 1-out jam. That guy’s got great stuff.
NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!
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BOTG
Scioscia for leaving Willits in to bat in the ninth. Ugh.
Arte eats dinner in Corona Del Mar; Tony Reagins eats dinner at the Corona Del Taco

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