TUESDAY ANGELS ROUNDUP: No Movement On Roy Halladay, Angels Look To Cliff Lee

by WiHaloFan on Jul 28, 2009 8:26 AM PDT in Angels News

Up next for Angels: Tuesday vs. Cleveland - Los Angeles Times
Jered Weaver vs. David Huff

Indians stun Angels, Fuentes with big rally in 9th - FOX Sports on MSN
Juan Rivera, Kendry Morales and Mike Napoli hit consecutive homers in the second inning for the Angels, who lost back-to-back games for just the second time in July following an eight-game winning streak. Morales hit two homers and Rivera drove in two runs in his return from an eight-game injury absence, but the Angels' shaky pitching staff failed them again. The loss dropped Los Angeles' lead over Texas in the AL West standings to 2 1/2 games.

Indians-Angels Preview - FOX Sports on MSN
The Indians look to extend their season-high winning streak to six games when they continue a three-game road set against the AL West-leading Los Angeles Angels on Tuesday night.

TRADE RUMOR STUFF

Forget the Phillies, the LA Angels Need Roy Halladay Much More - Bleacher Report
According to Heyman, the Blue Jays asked for 28-year-old LHP Joe Saunders, 21-year-old RHP Sean O'Sullivan, SS Erick Aybar, and SS/3B Brandon Wood. Saunders and O'Sullivan are currently in the Angels rotation, Aybar is the starting SS, and the 24-year-old Wood is a promising power hitter who could be moved to third base, another position the Jays need to improve. If that Blue Jays' request is real, I make that trade in a heartbeat if I am Angels GM Tony Reagins.

Trade talk: Angels shift from Halladay to Lee - Yahoo! Sports
Frustrated by their inability to close the gap in trade negotiations for Toronto Blue Jays ace Roy Halladay, the Los Angeles Angels have shifted their emphasis to Cleveland Indians lefty Cliff Lee, a source said.

For his sake, Ricciardi better be bluffing - FOX Sports on MSN
This is what you need to know about Halladay: right now, he has more value to the teams that are trying to trade for him than he does to the Blue Jays. Significantly more.

Would keeping Halladay even make sense for Jays? - CBSSports.com
Even though the Blue Jays say they don't have to trade Halladay, and even though general manager J.P. Ricciardi keeps dropping hints that Halladay won't be traded, it hardly seems to make financial sense for the Jays to keep him. Hurt by the bad economy and a weakening Canadian dollar, the Jays dropped their payroll to about $80 million (in U.S. dollars) this year. They've suggested that they don't expect it to go much higher in 2010, and that in any case they don't see supporting a $100 million payroll in the near future.

Front offices, players, agents driven 'crazy' over trade rumors - USATODAY.com
"I can't keep up with all of it myself, and we're the ones who are making the decision," says Blue Jays general manager J.P. Ricciardi. "It's crazy what's going on out there. There are rumors, atop of rumors, atop of rumors, atop of rumors.

Halladay continues to go nowhere; other pitchers on the move - NBC Sports
Anyone else get the sense that the Blue Jays screwed up the Roy Halladay business? They've had him out there forever, no deals are happening, and the sense is that they're asking too much. Then, either as a result or by happy accident, Cliff Lee, Scott Kazmir (maybe), Jarrod Washburn and Bronson Arroyo all come on the market.

NON-TRADE RUMOR STUFF

Team Reports - CBSSports.com
OF Juan Rivera was back in the lineup Monday after missing the previous eight games and 10 of 13 with a right hamstring injury. Rivera hit a home run in his first at-bat and went 2-for-4 as the DH and will be eased back into the lineup in that role before he's used in the outfield, Angels manager Mike Scioscia said.

The one player they can't lose - Angels Unplugged - Los Angeles Times
Whatever happens, they can't let Chone Figgins leave. The gifted little leadoff hitter is in the final year of his contract, so he will be open to all bidders after the season. Arte Moreno has to make sure he at least matches, if not surpasses, the top offer. Figgins is that important. He doesn't just play for this team. He defines it.

Angels find new way to win - SweetSpot by Rob Neyer - ESPN
I've developed a tendency to believe in the Angels, because they find a way to win almost every year. But if I'm the Rangers and I'm looking for a glimmer of hope, it's this: the Angels might be winning yet again, but they're not supposed to win like this. And maybe at some point this summer they'll stop.

Kendrick thriving since recall - angelsbaseball.com
"Torii [Hunter] used to tell me all the time 'Watch, watch, you'll come out of it,'" Kendrick said. "When you are going through it, you just don't know, but now I look back at where I was and I think, man, he was right."

July 28 - BR Bullpen
Events, births and deaths that occurred on July 28.
1964 - The Angels' Jim Fregosi hits for the cycle to assure a 3-1 win over the Yankees. New York's only score is a Mickey Mantle homer over the CF fence at Chavez Ravine, one of only two hits off Dean Chance. It's the first homer given up by Chance in 69 innings.
1966 - Rick Reichardt, California's young hitting star, is sidelined with a kidney ailment. He will have a kidney removed in two weeks.

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To me and to a lot of other fans on this site...

I think it’s pretty evident the team needs pitching help. Another front-line starter would seem like a must, and so would another bullpen arm.

Just consider the playoffs for a second, who do we trot out as our playoff starters beyond John Lackey in Game One? Weaver would have been game one starter a month ago, but he’s gone off the rail like an Amtrak train. Who starts games two and three? You could make an argument for Sean O’Sullivan and Matt Palmer.

You can’t tell me the Angels Brass is beaming with excitement about that playoff rotation.

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

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by hk47 on Jul 28, 2009 9:02 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs

like is said yesterday..

HK for Lee makes too much sense… i realize it might take more than just HK but so long as its not an impact player, then I am all for it

2009 Angels Season: Let's Do This For Nick

by trojanangelfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions

Still got faith in Weaver.

What the hell has Moseley been up to? I thought he went on the 60 day DL like 3 months ago?

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Jul 28, 2009 9:23 AM PDT reply actions

Moseley's due back any day now.

The injury report says “late July” but also says he’s just playing catch, not yet throwing from a mound. So, I’m guessing he’s a little behind schedule, and will need a few more weeks to do rehab assignments.

This season is my best chance to get called out of the stands to pitch.

by Rally Manatee on Jul 28, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions

Saundo/O'Sully/Wood/Aybar, wow you gotta make that trade.

everyone can be replaced including Wood…

They want power, We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Jul 28, 2009 9:41 AM PDT reply actions

I think Arte is sweet on the Admiral

If we could do this trade with SRod instead of Aybar I think it is a go.

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by matthiasstephan on Jul 28, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions

personally I like S.Rod better than Aybar. but the organization knows more than me...

They want power, We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Jul 28, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions

S Rod sux!

Let the Halo power flow...

by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Jul 28, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions

they need to give him a full season to develop...

They want power, We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Jul 28, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions

same argument we hear with Wood

give the kids 300-400 consistent, everyday ABs in the bigs before we judge ’em.

SRod is currently OPSing 1.000+ in SLC. there’s something there… he just hasn’t put it together yet.

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Jul 28, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions

seriously I dont hate Wood or think hes a bust...

but I would trade him because of his hype.

They want power, We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Jul 28, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions

well there's a good reason...

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Jul 28, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions

It's foolish to trade Aybar given Izturis injury past.

Additionally, Aybar is much more athletic and defensively stable.

Let the Halo power flow...

by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Jul 28, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions

I just sat down and had a sincere talk with myself,

and I’ve decided that if we trade Sando/Sully/Aybar/Wood for Halladay, everything is going to be okay. I have to force myself to not think about how good those players we are giving up are or MAY become, but think if we have suitable replacements for each of them.

When I consider this, I realize it’s not a bad trade: Izzy takes over for Aybar, S Rod comes up to back up Izzy, Figgins continues at 3rd, Halladay fills Saundo’s spot, and Palmer or Loux cover for O’Sullivan at least until Moseley returns.

So, really we are left with a little drop off at SS considering how Aybar’s been playing, but a huge upgrade in pitching.

This season is my best chance to get called out of the stands to pitch.

by Rally Manatee on Jul 28, 2009 10:14 AM PDT reply actions

I completely agree

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

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by hk47 on Jul 28, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions

+1

They want power, We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Jul 28, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions

personally I would rather

give up srod instead of wood, especially since it seems that srod is starting to get even worst in the strikeout department.

by semperfi1645 on Jul 28, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions

Shout over to the Cleveland dugout. Offer to throw in GMJ and continue to pay 90% of his salary. It's a sunk cost, anyway.

At this point, all he is doing for us is block Terry Evans.

We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.

by Stirrups on Jul 28, 2009 10:54 AM PDT reply actions

The latest gossip?

Angels likely looking at Freddy Sanchez. Perhaps because Kendrick going in another deal?

(source)

Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.

by AlanFalcon on Jul 28, 2009 12:31 PM PDT reply actions

I like it

as long as we get rid of an IF

no need to stack at that position

Please get rid of Speier. "Yes, I suck."- Jose Guillen.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, Marquis Cooper, Steve McNair, and Frank Grimes, or Grimey, as he liked to be called

by JoseGuillenSux on Jul 28, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions

AOL Fanshouse talking more Angels.

If the Angels and Rays are making a deal (Kazmir?) no players from Angels big league roster are involved.

and

Re: Angels and F.Sanchez. Source from 3rd team says he “wouldn’t be surprised” if LAA got him. Does seem like an odd pickup, though.

(source)

Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.

by AlanFalcon on Jul 28, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions

And what is a Fanshouse anyway?

A Brian Shous fan?

Of course I meant to type AOL Fanhouse.

Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.

by AlanFalcon on Jul 28, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions

interesing

I wouldn’t expect us to get Kazmir and Lee, but if we get Sanchez, Kendrick is gone (probably to CLE)

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Jul 28, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Dude … the Indians do not want Kendrick.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Jul 28, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions

oh im sorry

i didn’t realize you were Mark Shapiro. My bad.

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Jul 28, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions

Sanchez

I think this is an old rumor based on replacing infielders if we made the big stab at Roy Halladay.

If Kendrick and Wood go, the organization will probably get Sanchez to re-up the depth in the infield. Maicer’s hammys demand as much.

by Rev Halofan on Jul 28, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions

According to Heyman, the Blue Jays asked for 28-year-old LHP Joe Saunders, 21-year-old RHP Sean O’Sullivan, SS Erick Aybar, and SS/3B Brandon Wood. Saunders and O’Sullivan are currently in the Angels rotation, Aybar is the starting SS, and the 24-year-old Wood is a promising power hitter who could be moved to third base, another position the Jays need to improve. If that Blue Jays’ request is real, I make that trade in a heartbeat if I am Angels GM Tony Reagins.

That’s because you’re retarded, Mr. DelGrippo.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Jul 28, 2009 2:25 PM PDT reply actions

Heyman noted today that that proposal sounded over the top

i think that makes him the first…

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Jul 28, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions

Right on the money!

Let the Halo power flow...

by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Jul 28, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions

call me crazy

but for all those people that think srod and wood should get 300-400 AB’s in a season to see what they got, I think they should probably earn that right like all the other guys in the majors. They may have talent, but so far the only thing they’ve shown is that they can’t hit major league pitching.

by semperfi1645 on Jul 28, 2009 11:03 PM PDT reply actions

Angels fans know this.

Meanwhile trade target Jarrod Washburn just wrapped up what could be his last start with the Mariners. He tossed seven strong innings to lower his ERA to a sparkling 2.64 in front of scouts from the Yankees, Phillies, Brewers, and Rangers. Washburn, a Boras client and impending free agent, sure knows how to time his best seasons.

(source)

Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.

by AlanFalcon on Jul 29, 2009 9:54 AM PDT reply actions