My Final Offer for Roy Halladay

by Rev Halofan on Jul 31, 2009 1:28 AM PDT in Angels News

Dear JP:

Take it or leave it: Joe Saunders and Jeff Mathis plus choose one of Howie Kendrick or Brandon Wood. For this, you send us Roy Halladay.

I could imagine throwing in a pitching prospect but who the Angel internet analysts are looking at and who your scouts are looking at could be two distinctly different arms, so go ahead, toss in a name of a kid not named Sean O`Sullivan if you want to make it a four player deal.

You have until 1 PM my time today and remember that you have to get Roy to give this trade a thumbs up or a thumbs down. Because I will trade Mathis and Trevor Reckling to Cincinnatti for Aaron Harang if Mister Pinkyday nixes the deal.

Think it over your Molson Lite Breakfast and get back to me. Don't do something stupid like think Roy wants to pitch in Arlington only for him to turn you and Nolan Ryan down. And don't go strengthening the Red Sox like a fool idiot.

No offense if you already consider yourself a fool idiot like most everyone else already does.

Sincerely,

The Rev on behalf of the Ninja.

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just don't let him go to Texas...

I’d hate to see a pitcher of his caliber be sent off to where pitchers go to die

2009 Angels Season: Let's Do This For Nick

by trojanangelfan on Jul 31, 2009 1:38 AM PDT reply actions

If he goes to Texas, then they kill their future unless they then trade him at next year’s trading deadline and get a good deal. If we make the deal outlined above we strengthen our present while retaining our future. I don’t think JP wants the deal outlined above though, so I expect us to mostly stay put.

Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.

by AlanFalcon on Jul 31, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions

Your mouth to God's ears

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

by Moondoggy on Jul 31, 2009 1:38 AM PDT reply actions

We have to sign Teix

Whatever it takes!

by Funke5ive on Jul 31, 2009 1:54 AM PDT reply actions

Saunders or Weaver, Mathis, Wood,

and Your pick of minor leaguers EXCEPT for O’S and Dondo.

Not sure about Weaver. He just got a haircut.

Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.

by vladtheimpaler on Jul 31, 2009 1:59 AM PDT reply actions

Succinctly put...

Your job as GM J.P. is to make the Jays more competitive, not too sit idly by as offers for Halladay stream in, and you stubbornly refuse. Lets face it, he ain’t re-signing with Toronto. Let it go.

YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....

by halofolife on Jul 31, 2009 2:03 AM PDT reply actions

Then Jeff Mathis would have to fight the Maple Leafs hockey players for the local girly action.

Mike Napoli speaks softly and carries a big stick.

by 44FAN on Jul 31, 2009 2:07 AM PDT reply actions

Yes, Mathis needs to go

Yes, I like his defense but his offense is just unbearable to watch. If he doesn’t get traded, he needs to play scarcely as a backup catcher only. Napoli should get majority of the playing time.

by dan73962 on Jul 31, 2009 2:33 AM PDT reply actions

meh, I dont think Halladay is worth it anymore. Our offense is scoring 9 runs a game these days. Sure its gonna cool eventually. But I dont see us ever being as bad as the dodgers offensively.

All we need is Saunder/Santana to get their heads in gear so that their ERA is more in the 3.5 -4.5. Our offense is good enough to over come a 4 run deficit.

by robi s on Jul 31, 2009 2:42 AM PDT reply actions

No offense Rev, but that offer is horrible.

According to MLBTraderumors, we already offered Aybar, Wood, and Saunders and they rejected it. If what was reported that the Blue Jays asked for from the Angels was true, we could throw in either Trevor Reckling or Peter Bourjos to our offer that was rejected and it would be a done deal.

I don’t like the idea of giving up both Wood and Aybar though and I’m surprised that the Halos were willing to part with both.

"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana

by Chzburger Jones on Jul 31, 2009 2:45 AM PDT reply actions

They asked for Aybar, Wood and Saunders + another...

…and we rejected it

They rejected it for exactly that reason – not prepared to part with both.

I see red people

by The Limey on Jul 31, 2009 2:57 AM PDT up reply actions

I wouldn't trade Kendrick or Saunders

This trade is about winning this year and next, and we need all the major league starting pitchers we can get, instead of swapping them out for betters. And Howie is back to being a cheap .300 hitting second baseman, and those things don’t grow on trees.

Somehow all the other trades going on haven’t involved solid ML talent, so offer ‘em Wood/Rodriguez and O’Sullivan and Mathis and Reckling or whatever and if they don’t like it, screw ’em.

by mattwelch on Jul 31, 2009 6:14 AM PDT reply actions

I agree with Matt

Cliff Lee, although not as good of a pitcher as Halladay (but less expensive), went for prospects, I don’t get giving up 3 players from the Angels’ major league roster in a deal when all the other trades lacked proven major leaguers. Saunders is probably my favorite pitcher on the club, but I do think dealing him and Mathis plus anyone else in the minors (I count Wood as a minor leaguer even though he’s rotting on the big club’s bench) should be enough.

If not, as Matt writes…“screw ’em”.

by WiHaloFan on Jul 31, 2009 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions

I agree

..plus you are looking at 4 guys there who’s values have all gone down. I’m not sure the Jays would pull the trigger on that one, and I’m not sure I’d even want them to. I still want Kendrick Saunders and Wood on our team, and I think a few years from now when Halladay is long gone, we’ll wish those guys were still on the Angels if we trade them now.

by ponusbaum43 on Jul 31, 2009 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions

My Version

1. Saunders OR Weaver
2. Wood OR Sean Rodriguez
3. SO’S OR a Trevor
4. Mathis or Bobby Wilson.

Willing to listen to requests for different minor league pitchers in place of those listed above. You can have two of them instead of Saunders/Weaver. Alexi Amarista is also in play. So’s Hank Conger, but only if Wood & Rodriguez are no longer part of the deal.

by jjackflash on Jul 31, 2009 7:27 AM PDT reply actions

Maybe I'm an idiot.

But what if we shock the world and make a deal with the Astros? Roy Oswalt or Wandy Rodriguez? Similar deal, we’ll start with Joe Saunders. Add Sean Rodriguez in lieu of Wood. S-Rod can play center field as well as either middle infield spot. Add Hank Conger in lieu of Mathis or Napoli. He’s under play control and cheaper than either Napoli or Mathis. And could be ready as soon as I-Rod’s contract runs out. And round it out for a pitching prospect, O’Sullivan, Reckling, or Ortega.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 7:36 AM PDT reply actions