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MLB Trade Deadline Thread Part 2

42 17  9 2 0 minutes remain... BUT deals get announced late as they finalize the correct spelling of prospect names...

The Tigers acquired pitcher Jarrod Washburn from the Mariners for pitchers Luke French and Mauricio Robles.

The Twins acquired shortstop Orlando Cabrera from the A’s for shortstop Tyler Ladendorf.

The Brewers acquired pitcher Claudio Vargas from the Dodgers for catcher Vinny Rottino.

The Red Sox are this°close to landing Victor Martinez from the Indians for Justin Masterson and Nick Hagadone

The Yankees get Jerry Hairston Jr. from the Reds

The Red Sox trade Adam LaRoche to the Atlanta Braves for Casey Kotchman

The Toronto Blue Jays trade Scott Rolen to the Reds for Edwin Encarnacion

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Angels should
Sacrifice the unclear future on the proven present
92 votes
Excuse me, but what does Option 1 in this poll even MEAN?
106 votes
Make a trade just to prove that they can make a trade
49 votes

247 votes | Poll has closed

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Roy Halladay to the Angels

PLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lets Go Win

Sign Halladay, mortgage the future blah blah blah.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A nice arm we could have added but the FO ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

The Rockies acquired lefty reliever Joe Beimel from the Nationals, according to Chico Harlan of the Washington Post.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey Rev... could you include the recent signings.

Just so we can see all the moves on oen page.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Blue Jays buyers???

From Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, via Twitter: the Blue Jays acquired Double A pitcher Sean Smith from the Pirates for future considerations

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

gotta get Bell....

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Jul 31, 2009 12:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope Arrendondo is healthy

If we don’t make a move, he can make an impact like K-Rod did in 2002.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We could always get some through waivers

although i have no idea how that goes

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Make a deal Tony,

WE NEED PITCHING NOW!

Mike Napoli speaks softly and carries a big stick.

by 44FAN on Jul 31, 2009 12:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Reagins is only a ninja

when it comes to contract signings. Teix was a fluke.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He got Garland

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

good point.

But that was pre-season. Maybe Stoneman is holding a golden challis and saying… NOW IS NOT THE TIME MY PROTEGE, not now.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He also got Palmer.

Not a small thing considering where we might be without him at the moment.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you can get somebody cheap, do it Ninja.

Otherwise, sit pat. We’re a goddamn .600 ballclub, we don’t NEED anything.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 12:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Dodgers are a .618 team

and they’re trying to improve.

by WiHaloFan on Jul 31, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I'm thinking.

Look if we can get better, why the h not? We don’t need to sell the farm, but if we can pick up a missing piece, lets do it.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What do you want to bet the Dodgers are back to being a .500 club in 2-3 years?

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it depends on what they trade away.

Because from what I’ve heard they didn’t lose much making their trades.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't matter what they traded, it's a mindset. Something will go wrong,

they’ll have no depth to cover, and BAM. .500 ball club.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

With a WS Championship?

What would you rather have, a .500 club 2 years from now and a WS Championship in 2009? Or a .600 club for 5 years with no championship?

by WiHaloFan on Jul 31, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ill take a trophie

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to have a WS ring.

Even if that means the following year we suck.

i.e. 2002, then 2003.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you're asking whether I'd rather be the 90's Braves or the 90's Marlins, I take the Braves

every time.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bingo

R.I.P. King Ad-Rock #34

by Seik1177 on Jul 31, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a bullshit answer

Are you saying the Angels would sell off everyone after a WS win to save cash?

by WiHaloFan on Jul 31, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was highlighting what you're talking about giving up,

the way it happened isn’t necessarily important.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm looking for where I wrote anything in this thread

about giving anything up. All I wrote was the Dodgers were a .618 team and they’re making moves.

by WiHaloFan on Jul 31, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No need to explain

Just let it be known that the Red Sox have been very active the last 5 years and they have not suffered because of trades made

Willie Mays Aikens is FREeeeeeeee

by Angel Aviator on Jul 31, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I said they'd be back to a .500 ballclub in 2-3 years.

Do we want to recap the whole thread? Look, you’re the one who asked the question, and I answered you. I look at it as a mindset thing. You’re either in it to be a perpetual champion, or you’re not.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Nobody mentioned dismantling.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a difference in approach. Don't like that one? Fine, how bout the '00s DBacks?

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We can do this all day

How about the 2004 Red Sox? Traded Nomar and others…I think they won something in October.

by WiHaloFan on Jul 31, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And traded...oh right, NOBODY, midseason.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, you win

You’ve convinced me.

The Angels shouldn’t try to improve their club.

by WiHaloFan on Jul 31, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At the expense of what? Value for nothing is rare.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean, sure, the Phillies just did it to the Indians,

but that’s like the Padres-Rangers trade a few years back. You can’t count on that kind of incompetence.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They traded Nomar, a clubhouse cancer, for Orlando Cabrera,

a statistically worse player. And won on Roidy McRoiderton’s Game 4 9th inning HR.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Besides, going .600 every year gives you a hell of a lot more shots than trading

everything for a slightly better shot 1 year.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not really advocating trading away the farm.

I’m talking about adding one bullpen guy or a pitcher if we can get a deal.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope, Ninja made sure we had a good backup plan.

(Turns out it was a GREAT backup plan). Otherwise I bet he never gets Teix.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We had no

guarantee that Morales was going to be great.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True. But we were pretty sure he could equal what Kotch had been

giving us. And that was what Tony was banking on.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We already saw last year that making a big trade at the deadline guarantees us jackshit.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It did make them a better team

Just wasn’t going to help HK who hit .118 or GA who hit a solid .158 or Aybar and his robust .111

Willie Mays Aikens is FREeeeeeeee

by Angel Aviator on Jul 31, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

600 club means nothing

we won 100 games last year, and could not get out of the first round. The first round is all about pitching and have two studs as your #1 and #2. Plus we need middle relief.

by Ca1IFORNIA ANGELS on Jul 31, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's about being hot at the right time

What 1-2 punch did we have in 2002?

R.I.P. King Ad-Rock #34

by Seik1177 on Jul 31, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup, that was solidified by a 19 yr old

called up in September. We may have the answer already

R.I.P. King Ad-Rock #34

by Seik1177 on Jul 31, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dunno if this is true, but if it is, it's a sad day

Hearing Adam LaRoche to the Braves for Casey Kotchman. Which means…

…Casey will be a Red Sock.

/inmouthvomits

Years later, Clutch still needs to chill.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, #34.

by cardinalwraith on Jul 31, 2009 12:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

sucks for him

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Jul 31, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kotchman to redsox

wtf…

-- RIP Nick Adenhart

by mjhsieh on Jul 31, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yuck.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why the fuck would the Red Sox do that?

It makes no god damn sense.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

they traded LaRouche to free 1B

for V-Mart Kotchman back-up in ATL

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Halladay

is worth it if it costs them no more than 2 guys currently on the major league roster. Plus up to 3 prospects, not all pitchers.

by jjackflash on Jul 31, 2009 12:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ESPN said Victor Martinez is tewnty miles away from Boston.

Mike Napoli speaks softly and carries a big stick.

by 44FAN on Jul 31, 2009 12:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's funny

I wonder if he had an idea.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Red Sox*

Mike Napoli speaks softly and carries a big stick.

by 44FAN on Jul 31, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LaRoche to Atlanta again?

Wonder what that means for Casey Kotchman.

by Monkeyspanked on Jul 31, 2009 12:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

See above, he's going to the Sox.

Years later, Clutch still needs to chill.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, #34.

by cardinalwraith on Jul 31, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it confirmed?

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

theres nothing on mlbtraderumors

i dont think details are final yet but i doubt Boston wants Kotchman

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

32 Minutes Left

Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Although really an hour

because so many get announced after 1 PM

by Rev Halofan on Jul 31, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah yeah true.

Could we get one of those Nazi/Hittler front office videos again.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that would be cool if its like 2:00

and they annouce we got Halladay and Bell…huhhhhh i can dream right

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

but highly unlikely.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trade on the way?

according to MLBtraderumors, both SRod and Bobby Wilson were recalled, even though there is only 1 open spot.. Maybe Wood/HK/Izzy and Mathis in a deal with SD for Heath Bell?

World Series '09 - In Memory of #34 Nick Adenhart!

by b0rd3rline on Jul 31, 2009 12:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

welcome to the discussion

Thoughts are Mathis might be hurt.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please no...
MLB.com’s Padres reporter Corey Brock is blogging that Heath Bell to Dodgers could be close. #mlbtrades

by Sweetmeats on Jul 31, 2009 12:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I kind of feel like

This is kind of like foreplay without the sex. If we don’t make a trade, its like we didn’t “finish.”

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

best trade ever

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doyle Alexander

Isn’t he on the World Poker Tour???

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BEAST

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what did John Smoltz do??

thats right

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but the Tigers made the play-offs by 2 games

Would they have done that without Alexander going 9-0?

by WiHaloFan on Jul 31, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And lost to the A's in the ALCS, giving up a HOF who could have led the club for YEARS.

Oops.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops, Twins. Same dif.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, we saw what that did for the Braves

How many world series did Smoltz win for them?

by WiHaloFan on Jul 31, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

1. Which makes it 1-0, by my count.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

An INFINITY % difference!

Holy Crap!

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Aug 1, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lot of questions answered today

Pretty sure now we won’t be big players for Figgins or even Lackey this offseason. FO is hoarding the young guys.

Need some ninjitsu.

by Wytelitning on Jul 31, 2009 12:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

agree 100%

We are passing on the trade deadline because we are sticking with a plan.

by Rev Halofan on Jul 31, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just because we arnt making trades doesnt me we wont resign are guys

Quinlan has to be the #1 priority though

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

Figgins and Abreu will be resigned. Lackey is a goner.

In Remembrance of Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson. Heal soon Jon Wilhite.

I want Andrew Thomas Gallo to be a pinata, and the Angels supply the bats...

by Slasher52 on Jul 31, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2:37pm: Rosenthal and Morosi report that the Marlins are no longer pursuing Johnson or Heath Bell.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Marlins bow out

of the Heath Bell pursuit, so says MLB Trade Rumors.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe i was wrong

2:38pm: Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports says LaRoche could be swapped for Casey Kotchman.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This would make me sad

and CKoD would probably go ape shit

R.I.P. King Ad-Rock #34

by Seik1177 on Jul 31, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN Radio

Scott Van Pelt show also reporting that Kotchman went to Boston for LaRoche

We're putting the band back togehter.

by billhune on Jul 31, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Reds acquired third baseman Scott Rolen, according to SI’s Jon Heyman. The next step is Rolen approving the trade.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Acuda would cry, but what about

Heath Bell and Adrian Gonzalez for Kendry and others?

by Monkeyspanked on Jul 31, 2009 12:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Pads want

3 times what the Jays want ill pass

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

just dreaming right now..

Actually love Kendry but that would be effen awesome

by Monkeyspanked on Jul 31, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Take it

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Jul 31, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about split the difference.

3 way swap. Pads, Marlins, Halos. Kendry to Marlins, Cameron Maybin to Pads, Gonzales to Angels. Add others as necessary, like Wood to SD, etc.

In Remembrance of Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson. Heal soon Jon Wilhite.

I want Andrew Thomas Gallo to be a pinata, and the Angels supply the bats...

by Slasher52 on Jul 31, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Padres want THREE times what the Jays want for Halladay

12:26pm: A Jayson Stark source says the asking price for Gonzalez is “astronomical, three times the asking price on Halladay.”

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just shooting in the breeze.

In Remembrance of Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson. Heal soon Jon Wilhite.

I want Andrew Thomas Gallo to be a pinata, and the Angels supply the bats...

by Slasher52 on Jul 31, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time to cut the chord

Sorry Kotchman, I no longer love you.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah... but I have morales

And I can’t love anyone who wears a Red Sox logo.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what's funny

Is I was trying to spell morals.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm done

These deadlines only bring bad news

R.I.P. King Ad-Rock #34

by Seik1177 on Jul 31, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still love him.

I can kidnap him while he’s still in Atlanta.

In Remembrance of Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson. Heal soon Jon Wilhite.

I want Andrew Thomas Gallo to be a pinata, and the Angels supply the bats...

by Slasher52 on Jul 31, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stunned

Harold Reynolds.

In Remembrance of Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson. Heal soon Jon Wilhite.

I want Andrew Thomas Gallo to be a pinata, and the Angels supply the bats...

by Slasher52 on Jul 31, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Rolen is going to the Reds

Toronto needs a 3B. We’ve got extras.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Quinlan?

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Straight up, plus a case of Molsons.

In Remembrance of Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson. Heal soon Jon Wilhite.

I want Andrew Thomas Gallo to be a pinata, and the Angels supply the bats...

by Slasher52 on Jul 31, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

your pushing it

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right.

6 pack.

In Remembrance of Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson. Heal soon Jon Wilhite.

I want Andrew Thomas Gallo to be a pinata, and the Angels supply the bats...

by Slasher52 on Jul 31, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Need

they got Edwin Encarnacion (3B) from the Reds

by jjackflash on Jul 31, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2:56pm: FOX Sports says the Blue Jays will get Edwin Encarnacion and a minor leaguer. Rolen is expected to approve the deal.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

uh-oh.

No deal will be made.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing is happening for us

This sucks. We’re playing great right now, but we need pitching help for a potential playoff run. Not gonna get it done with pitching we have right now.

RIP #34

by linkbruin on Jul 31, 2009 12:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Definitely not winning the World Series with what we have.

Gonna be 07 and 08 all over again.

Let's win one for Nick

by moosemastr on Jul 31, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we get hot at the right time we could win it

if the Nats got hot and some how made it to the playoffs they could win it to its all about who is hot

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not with a pitching staff with an ERA over 6

…especially against the Red Sox (see Angels recent Playoff history)

Missing Garret "Groundout" Anderson

by dannyras on Jul 31, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

if a team gets hot they can have a 2.00 or below

ERA in the playoffs its who ever gets hot

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If only we could pull off another blockbuster like in 2002 to win it all!!!

Unfortunately I don’t see anybody out there as solid as Sal Fasano or Alex Ochoa

by Wytelitning on Jul 31, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked Ochoa.

In Remembrance of Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson. Heal soon Jon Wilhite.

I want Andrew Thomas Gallo to be a pinata, and the Angels supply the bats...

by Slasher52 on Jul 31, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kotchman is on the Red Sox

What a Shame

2009 Angels Season: Let's Do This For Nick

by trojanangelfan on Jul 31, 2009 12:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Shame is right :(

I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

by lightupthehalo on Jul 31, 2009 12:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

so is life

I don’t miss him. Honestly. He was good. But Morales is way better.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For those who might not get it...

Ninja’s doing nothing at the trade deadline like Stoneman used to do.

by Monkeyspanked on Jul 31, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You don’t do something just to say “we did something.” You do something if it will improve the club. If the asking prices are too high, you pass.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Jul 31, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Less than 4 minutes to go.

I really think they’re not going to do anything. Crap.

Let's win one for Nick

by moosemastr on Jul 31, 2009 12:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is so exciting.

:|

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Jul 31, 2009 12:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

so not exciting

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe frustrating is the term

I would use.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was exciting

key word was

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that leaves us and the Dodgers

2:54pm: USA Today’s Bob Nightengale, via Twitter, says the Twins’ talks for Bell are all but dead. However, they’re in on Arizona’s Jon Rauch.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 12:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

c'mon ninja!!

World Series '09 - In Memory of #34 Nick Adenhart!

by b0rd3rline on Jul 31, 2009 12:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope it doesn't come to that...

…and we let the Tigers or Twins take out the Sox.

Missing Garret "Groundout" Anderson

by dannyras on Jul 31, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish we'd trade for a better reliever.

In Remembrance of Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson. Heal soon Jon Wilhite.

I want Andrew Thomas Gallo to be a pinata, and the Angels supply the bats...

by Slasher52 on Jul 31, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What, are the Dodgers and Rockies in the AL West now?

Rangers haven’t done diddly.

In Remembrance of Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson. Heal soon Jon Wilhite.

I want Andrew Thomas Gallo to be a pinata, and the Angels supply the bats...

by Slasher52 on Jul 31, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I like your optimism.

In Remembrance of Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson. Heal soon Jon Wilhite.

I want Andrew Thomas Gallo to be a pinata, and the Angels supply the bats...

by Slasher52 on Jul 31, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Confirmation that happened?

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

VMart Great? Nah. Good, yes.

Responding only to the NL West acquisitions.

In Remembrance of Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson. Heal soon Jon Wilhite.

I want Andrew Thomas Gallo to be a pinata, and the Angels supply the bats...

by Slasher52 on Jul 31, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, that's it.

Absolutely no movement from the Angels. Lame.

Let's win one for Nick

by moosemastr on Jul 31, 2009 1:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Give it another 30 min

before you give up

Although you probably don’t wanna hold your breathe while waiting

R.I.P. King Ad-Rock #34

by Seik1177 on Jul 31, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hopefully news of a trade is just coming in late for us..

grr..

World Series '09 - In Memory of #34 Nick Adenhart!

by b0rd3rline on Jul 31, 2009 1:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

dont hold your breath

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

not bloodly likely

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stop: Clearing Waivers Time.

In Remembrance of Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson. Heal soon Jon Wilhite.

I want Andrew Thomas Gallo to be a pinata, and the Angels supply the bats...

by Slasher52 on Jul 31, 2009 1:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not true. Trades continue to leak out for a couple of hours

They need to be submitted at 1 and approved

Play Wood already. Willits sucks.

by hauldog on Jul 31, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its true.

Anything submitted past 4EDT must clear waivers.

In Remembrance of Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson. Heal soon Jon Wilhite.

I want Andrew Thomas Gallo to be a pinata, and the Angels supply the bats...

by Slasher52 on Jul 31, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But they can be approved after 4:00edt

They just have to be received by 4:00edt

R.I.P. King Ad-Rock #34

by Seik1177 on Jul 31, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True.

And true.

In Remembrance of Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson. Heal soon Jon Wilhite.

I want Andrew Thomas Gallo to be a pinata, and the Angels supply the bats...

by Slasher52 on Jul 31, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No crap

But the information takes time to trickle out.

Plus I said they need to submitted at one. I understand that. Reporting is not instantaneous is my point

Play Wood already. Willits sucks.

by hauldog on Jul 31, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

In Remembrance of Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson. Heal soon Jon Wilhite.

I want Andrew Thomas Gallo to be a pinata, and the Angels supply the bats...

by Slasher52 on Jul 31, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kotchman/Halladay thoughts

Krotchman as my friend would call him- Ouch thats a good pick up for the bo sox. So we need to counter get Halladay and give them what they want. Enough. Arte is a great owner and will always be able to sign free agents. Wood, bye bye and who ever else Toronto wants give them, we need the best pitcher in baseball.

by Ca1IFORNIA ANGELS on Jul 31, 2009 1:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Whoa whoa whoa

ESPN just mentioned Halliday and the Angels.

Let's win one for Nick

by moosemastr on Jul 31, 2009 1:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

liers

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN NEWS

Willie Mays Aikens is FREeeeeeeee

by Angel Aviator on Jul 31, 2009 1:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jason Stark on ESPN, Halladay maybe to the Angels.

Mike Napoli speaks softly and carries a big stick.

by 44FAN on Jul 31, 2009 1:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

BS

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

heard it myself

Adenhart 1986-2009

by cupie on Jul 31, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

3:00pm: A 180 in this rumor – FOX now says the Marlins acquired Johnson for Double A lefty Aaron Thompson, with the Nats paying Johnson’s remaining salary.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 1:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No mention of the Halladay deal

On MLB Trade Rumors.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 1:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

source?

link to any of this? i am not seeing anything on espn?

"The Napoli-est Place on Earth."

by KyRod on Jul 31, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

RADIO

they cannot type as fast as they can talk

by Rev Halofan on Jul 31, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trade them

Willie Mays Aikens is FREeeeeeeee

by Angel Aviator on Jul 31, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get a faster typer

Willie Mays Aikens is FREeeeeeeee

by Angel Aviator on Jul 31, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just put on my lucky Red Angels jersey!!!

C’Mon NINJA!!

2009 Angels Season: Let's Do This For Nick

by trojanangelfan on Jul 31, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

bingo

ESPN is trying to get you to keep watching. theres nothing to this. theyre even going out of their way to say its unconfirmed – cover themselves

RIP Nick Adenhart

by ihearhowie2.0 on Jul 31, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A G R E E !

Mike Napoli speaks softly and carries a big stick.

by 44FAN on Jul 31, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who do you trade for Heath Bell?

He ain’t worth Wood and/or S-Rod.

I’ll stick with Bulger and his high K-rate and his stuff over sending a bunch of folks away. Bulger, Jepsen, Dondo (if healthy), Oliver and Fuentes are fine. Not the best we’ve had, clearly, but not awful. Let’s see how this bullpen does over the next 60 games. If they are healthy, have 1/2 year of experience in the younger guys and keep their stuff – which is very good – they could be just fine.

Remember, they can promote from within too.

Bullpen arms are expensive for little to no guarantee. You are better going with guys that are cheap and throw hard. It doesn’t pay to spend money (or prospects) on relievers. They are terribly flukey.

RIP Nick...

Jim Scully
Jim Scully Home

by jimmuscomp on Jul 31, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Insider

UPDATE: Halladay deal still alive?
Roy Halladay | Blue Jays
UPDATE: We’ve heard whispers from a couple places that the Angels might have a late push in for Roy Halladay. Will update soon.

Play Wood already. Willits sucks.

by hauldog on Jul 31, 2009 1:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ESPN Insider

Play Wood already. Willits sucks.

by hauldog on Jul 31, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is a good deal

I like it.

Play Wood already. Willits sucks.

by hauldog on Jul 31, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tease

I got all excited for a minute, too. I’m doubting anything actually happened.

by jjackflash on Jul 31, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Insider

Especially on days like today.

And now it seems the only way to read Stark’s columns. I love those wacky stats!

by LittleCupcakes on Jul 31, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

Plus you get their bitchin’ magazine!

by WiHaloFan on Jul 31, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, that Magazine

That’s the part of Insider I don’t enjoy. It’s perhaps the worst sports magazine on the newsstands.

by LittleCupcakes on Jul 31, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was kidding about the mag

I hardly ever even open it.

But I do like the Insider stuff.

by WiHaloFan on Jul 31, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No deal for Halladay

Ninja asked for a Tim Horton’s coffee. Ricciardi flew into a rage and ended all talks.

by Fan Since 1981 on Jul 31, 2009 1:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Let's win one for Nick

by moosemastr on Jul 31, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you funny guy

what casino your stand up act at?

by Rev Halofan on Jul 31, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was unable to land a role in Canada's most famous play

“We’re Gonna Be Alright You Creep, Leaving Home And All, eh?”

by Fan Since 1981 on Jul 31, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From Twitter:

fact rolen got done when jays execs said no rolen trade unless doc is dealt, makes me wonder if doc actually got moved

by WiHaloFan on Jul 31, 2009 1:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

huh? does any of this make sense?

Rotoworld is reporting that Austin jackson may have been the player going to the REDS for Jerry hairston JR

AND

The Reds gave up Encarnacion AND Yonder Alonso for Scott Rolen?

www.13stoploss.com

by feNOMINAL on Jul 31, 2009 1:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I followed Alonso at the U

Play Wood already. Willits sucks.

by hauldog on Jul 31, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Always liked Rolen.

Mike Napoli speaks softly and carries a big stick.

by 44FAN on Jul 31, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is nice but

Alonso is going to be a stud and Rolen is a FA in a year and 2 months

Play Wood already. Willits sucks.

by hauldog on Jul 31, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I need a Rolaids

Stay on the damn bag!!

by higdog on Jul 31, 2009 1:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I need a Halladay

2009 Angels Season: Let's Do This For Nick

by trojanangelfan on Jul 31, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

celebrate

We could use a Halladay. It would be, it would be so nice.

My Adam Sandler impression from Wedding Singer.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What the fuck is happening?

I would call Mead but his phone is gonna be too busy.

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Jul 31, 2009 1:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We're just about clear...

I’ll be glad when I see we get clear of this thing unscathed with our players in-tact. I hate the Kotchman/Teixeira trade last year and I don’t want to see the team derailed again when they are playing so well.

by thetooth on Jul 31, 2009 1:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

True...

That did hurt us a lot in the playoffs… but I felt the team played worse overall after the trade. They just didn’t seem the same to me.

by thetooth on Jul 31, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

huh?

what does that even mean?

by jjackflash on Jul 31, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't konw how to explain it exactly...

It seemed like Teix put up big numbers, but the team just didn’t seem to be the same. I think there weren’t any real trades for a long time, then they dumped off a guy that had basically grown up in the organization. I’m not saying that Teix wasn’t an upgrade, but I think his arrival screwed with team chemistry and hurt the team more than his extra offensive stats helped it.

by thetooth on Jul 31, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I repeat

what does that mean, “didn’t seem the same?” How do you quantify that? They won a lot of baseball games. You haven’t said anything…

by jjackflash on Jul 31, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, Jack...

I’m not a stat geek. I just watch the games and now I’m just commenting on a message board. I can’t necessarily quantify it for you. I’m just posting my observation. Take it for what it’s worth.

by thetooth on Jul 31, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

nothing

again, what did you see? I’m honestly asking. Because I saw the Angels scoring more runs than the teams they were playing, on a regular basis.

by jjackflash on Jul 31, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last year they seemed more down to business after the trade

and seemed to stop enjoying playing the game. IMHO that’s what I saw.

R.I.P. King Ad-Rock #34

by Seik1177 on Jul 31, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah... that's part of it

It’s like the trade reminding them that they weren’t a baseball family, but a business… and they better start looking out for themselves a bit. Maybe someone fails a sac bunt because they are trying to bunt for a hit instead. Little things like that.

by thetooth on Jul 31, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just an opinion

can’t be hogwash. Get off the high horse

R.I.P. King Ad-Rock #34

by Seik1177 on Jul 31, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's silly

because your opinion is not founded upon any kind of empirical evidence or reasoning; it’s based upon imagination.

by jjackflash on Jul 31, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If there was evidence

it would be a fact and not an opinion

R.I.P. King Ad-Rock #34

by Seik1177 on Jul 31, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is reasoning.

Just no stats to back up the reasoning. You disagree. You have no evidence that we would have done worse with Kotchman. It’s all a guessing game. We all watch the game and take away differing opinions. To think you can pull up some stats and assume they would hold true in different circumstances is foolhardy.

This is really winding you up, though, isn’t it? Relax, man. It’s ok for us to disagree. Message boards would be awful boring if one person posted something and it was followed up by 100 posts of “yeah, that’s right”. I can only come away with new insights if people share what they think and we can disagree.

by thetooth on Jul 31, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not

the one trying to make a point; you are. Of course you are entitled to your beliefs, but I’m curious what you observed that led you to those beliefs, or did you form them out of whole cloth?

by jjackflash on Jul 31, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We were both trying to make a point...

Obviously, what I saw on the field led me to those beliefs.

What you saw (whether on the field, or on the stats page, or both), led you to believe something different.

That’s basically where we are. It’s a discussion that I think has to end at us disagreeing because there is no clear numerical/scientific way to decide who’s right.

by thetooth on Jul 31, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

but

what did you see? That’s what I’m asking. I haven’t said anything one way or the other. You started by saying they were “not the same.” How and why? I’m not saying I agree or disagree. Otherwise, it’s just empty commentary, the kind of thing I expect from Bill Plaschke.

by jjackflash on Jul 31, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know who Bill Plaschke is...

but I don’t have concrete examples. If you were with me when I was watching the games last year, I could have pointed out the things that I based my perception on. At this point, I’m watching the 2009 Angels and don’t remember most of the minutiae of last years season. I just remember seeing it and talking about it with friends last year. Sorry I don’t have good specific examples.

by thetooth on Jul 31, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure if it's concrete, but here's

something interesting. Last year with Kotchman on July 29th, we were on track to win 100 games. We got Teixiera and all the improved batting he brought over Kotch and won…100 games. Would we still have made 100 with Kotch? Who knows. But it’s an interesting question. :)

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sigh...

I saw that as well… but I saw it with either first baseman. After the trade, it didn’t seem like the team fought as hard when they were down and they didn’t seem to have the same chemistry.

You’ve already said my observation is worth nothing to you, so why worry about it. It’s not a stat thing… I can’t quantify it for you. Maybe, if I had a bunch of extra time, I could look through the stats and see how players may have or may have not changed and how we did in games we fell behind pre-trade and post-trade or some such thing, but I don’t have time for that.

Why don’t you just assume I’m an idiot and let it go. I’m obviously not expressing myself very well.

by thetooth on Jul 31, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I seem to recall that

even that asshole Beckett noted that we were a different team with Izzy.

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Aug 1, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes you gotta roll the dice...

2009 Angels Season: Let's Do This For Nick

by trojanangelfan on Jul 31, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and other times you don't.

I know what you’re saying, but I still think we’ve got a great team without selling half of it off for a player that will likely be gone next year.

by thetooth on Jul 31, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Say what you will, that ultimately worked out well.

When it comes down to it, I trust Reagins to do what’s in the best interests of this club. Whatever he does, I believe things will work out.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope

they didn’t trade Wood.

Stay on the damn bag!!

by higdog on Jul 31, 2009 1:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

come on what the hell

why are they doing this to us?????

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 1:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Who's doing what to us?

Are we talking about ESPN?

by Wytelitning on Jul 31, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because they hate us

We’re not located within 300 miles of Bristol, Connecticut.

Let's win one for Nick

by moosemastr on Jul 31, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you

Arte eats dinner in Corona Del Mar; Tony Reagins eats dinner at the Corona Del Taco

by Higz on Jul 31, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

look its a win-win if you ask me

if we don’t get him we already have a great team… but if we do well then we have halladay and lackey 1-2 punch

don’t tease me with that 1-2

2009 Angels Season: Let's Do This For Nick

by trojanangelfan on Jul 31, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

word

Arte eats dinner in Corona Del Mar; Tony Reagins eats dinner at the Corona Del Taco

by Higz on Jul 31, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still fun to watch. :P

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Jays traded Rolin

so……..

Stay on the damn bag!!

by higdog on Jul 31, 2009 1:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

source???

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Jul 31, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN's lips

Arte eats dinner in Corona Del Mar; Tony Reagins eats dinner at the Corona Del Taco

by Higz on Jul 31, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

E S P N

jason Stark, other sources of theirs?

Mike Napoli speaks softly and carries a big stick.

by 44FAN on Jul 31, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

my stomach hurts

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 1:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The reason

for the change, per a story on MLB Network last night, was for the benefit of teams playing on the west coast – i.e., they’re playing games in the final hours of the deadline, meaning they are shorthanded, whereas east coast teams could play with full rosters, then make a deal later.

by jjackflash on Jul 31, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You people are crazy

The Angels don’t need any more pieces to win the division and the playoffs are a crapshoot no matter what. Let it go.

I feel the need, the need...for speed!

by Gorbachav5 on Jul 31, 2009 1:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I keep telling people this. If we can get somebody relatively cheap, great. Otherwise, I believe

we can win with what we have now.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get to the post season healthy

then get hot…that’s been the formula

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

by Moondoggy on Jul 31, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently

The Rangers, Yankees and Rays think the same thing.

by WiHaloFan on Jul 31, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'll find out who's right. It'll be fun.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awww man casey on the red sox???

Blehhhh

Please get rid of Speier. "Yes, I suck."- Jose Guillen.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, Marquis Cooper, Steve McNair, and Frank Grimes, or Grimey, as he liked to be called

by JoseGuillenSux on Jul 31, 2009 1:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is silence an indication of

confirmation or no deal

Stay on the damn bag!!

by higdog on Jul 31, 2009 1:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

bulster olney says no deal

damn

2009 Angels Season: Let's Do This For Nick

by trojanangelfan on Jul 31, 2009 1:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

no deal

didn’t happen.

by SactoFan on Jul 31, 2009 1:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

no deal

but they got us to watch for another 25 minutes

RIP Nick Adenhart

by ihearhowie2.0 on Jul 31, 2009 1:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

espn just said nothing happening according to Jason Stark

by Fordtrophytruck on Jul 31, 2009 1:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

no alonso

but still… a younger, cheaper Encarnacion, with more pop potential… with Roenicke and another for Rolen?

They must have really hated Encar…

www.13stoploss.com

by feNOMINAL on Jul 31, 2009 1:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lackey and O'Sullivan

and pray for rain

Stay on the damn bag!!

by higdog on Jul 31, 2009 1:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

OH GOD NO

Let's win one for Nick

by moosemastr on Jul 31, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

?????

!!!!!

www.13stoploss.com

by feNOMINAL on Jul 31, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea just heard

Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.

by princeton11loveshalos on Jul 31, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure what to make of this, but SI’s Jon Heyman tweeted that Padres pitcher Jake Peavy was dealt to the White Sox again. Heyman is not sure if Peavy OK’d it. He says the Padres get minor leaguers. Peavy is currently recovered from a torn ankle tendon.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMG WHY DIDN'T NINJA JUMP ON THAT?

Years later, Clutch still needs to chill.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, #34.

by cardinalwraith on Jul 31, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s on the DL. 50/50 for 09 return, right?
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Jul 31, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They are not sure if Peavy approved the deal yet though.

Mike Napoli speaks softly and carries a big stick.

by 44FAN on Jul 31, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Peavy's injured

Isn’t he? It’s a damn good thing we didn’t get him.

by TheAntiSox on Jul 31, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he has a long deal

its not like u lose him because he’s injured
you get him for a few year

Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.

by princeton11loveshalos on Jul 31, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

son of a!

Please get rid of Speier. "Yes, I suck."- Jose Guillen.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, Marquis Cooper, Steve McNair, and Frank Grimes, or Grimey, as he liked to be called

by JoseGuillenSux on Jul 31, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i guess we are good to go

well lets go get em

Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.

by princeton11loveshalos on Jul 31, 2009 1:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If Wood goes today

I bet you anything they resign Figgy.

by TheAntiSox on Jul 31, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My point was that Wood didn't go...

unless you know something we don’t.

by Wytelitning on Jul 31, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well again

There could have been something that hasn’t been reported yet but you’re right. No Halladay.

by TheAntiSox on Jul 31, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

GM jr.

could’ve been had for so little, I am suprised more teams didn’t offer. DP’s and weak defense are so valuable.

Stay on the damn bag!!

by higdog on Jul 31, 2009 1:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

After all that..

I think JP Ricciardi is probably gay. He gave great oral and he sure knew how to stroke everyone!

by Monkeyspanked on Jul 31, 2009 1:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I saw it on MLBTraderumors

Play Wood already. Willits sucks.

by hauldog on Jul 31, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Needs to be fired

Doing nothing good for that organization.

by Wytelitning on Jul 31, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Ricciardi blew it

He could have gotten a truckload for Halladay and came away with nothing. He’ll either have to settle for seeing a Cy Young pitcher throw for a 4th place team or take a crappy deal like the Twins got for Johan a couple years ago.

I think the Angels did the right thing by not selling the farm for Roy, but Ricciardi blew it.

I feel the need, the need...for speed!

by Gorbachav5 on Jul 31, 2009 1:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If we wanted to get Halladay

why would we wait till the last fuking second to try and make a trade wtf

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34

by Vladd#27 on Jul 31, 2009 1:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So the Jays

Would be desperate enough to settle with what the Angels had to offer.

by TheAntiSox on Jul 31, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mosenbach

back to Salt Lake. No word who is replacing him.

Stay on the damn bag!!

by higdog on Jul 31, 2009 1:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wilson and S-Rod....

apparently he counts for two.

by Wytelitning on Jul 31, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meh

Looks like he’s on the downslide anyhow.

Let's win one for Nick

by moosemastr on Jul 31, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's official

According to ESPNEWS…Roy Halliday will NOT be traded. Bastards.

Let's win one for Nick

by moosemastr on Jul 31, 2009 1:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Today

It was reported that the Marlins had swayed away from Nick Johnson, while within in hour it was com firmed that they had acquired him.

I’m done with rumors.

Almost every big deal the Ninja has pulled off came completely without rumors.

Who the hell knows anymore?

by TheAntiSox on Jul 31, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I heard somewhere

That the Angels and Jays are working on a late deal and that S-Rod and Bobby Wilson have been called up. Could be an injury but please… What are the odds that someone would be injured on the deadline?

So the S-Rod call up probably means any pick of the middle infielders and possibly Mathis gone? If it has anything to do with Napoli, then there better be a damn good explanation.

by TheAntiSox on Jul 31, 2009 1:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ESPN Red Sux boners

Now they talking about how hard did they try to get Halladay

Who cares!

by Monkeyspanked on Jul 31, 2009 1:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

DINGDINGDING!

In Remembrance of Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson. Heal soon Jon Wilhite.

I want Andrew Thomas Gallo to be a pinata, and the Angels supply the bats...

by Slasher52 on Jul 31, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

god this is ugly

the yankees are the only big competitor outside of us that didnt add anything, but the difference is they have the most talented team by far

kotchman going to the sux makes me sick almost as much as the lack of deals from the angels part

R.I.P. #34

by sctrojan13 on Jul 31, 2009 1:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

the rays are third in that division by far

and the rangers have no chance and they know it

R.I.P. #34

by sctrojan13 on Jul 31, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remind me what the Cardinals did.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DeRosa

Willie Mays Aikens is FREeeeeeeee

by Angel Aviator on Jul 31, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matt Holliday?

R.I.P. King Ad-Rock #34

by Seik1177 on Jul 31, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, OK, I deserved that one. Duh.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't claim perfection.

I merely claim that Reagins knows what he’s doing. ;)

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

bingo

If Chone Figgins was included in the deal that’s a deal-buster

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Jul 31, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not meaning to sound like the "Negativist"

But I’m not sold on Reagins yet. Too soon to tell for me.

by WiHaloFan on Jul 31, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont know if the rangers know they have no chance

even the mariners think they’re in this race. the al west is by no means a foregone conclusion

RIP #34

by linkbruin on Jul 31, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the m's are gearing up for a run next year

proven by trading away washy whose contract expires at the end of the year

the rangers in their hearts know they dont have it

R.I.P. #34

by sctrojan13 on Jul 31, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh shit we're badass

26 players on our active roster

Please get rid of Speier. "Yes, I suck."- Jose Guillen.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, Marquis Cooper, Steve McNair, and Frank Grimes, or Grimey, as he liked to be called

by JoseGuillenSux on Jul 31, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

on

Stay on the damn bag!!

by higdog on Jul 31, 2009 1:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Damnit!

Yup the Jays issued a statement saying that Halladay stays.

Come on!

All this for nothing?!!!

by TheAntiSox on Jul 31, 2009 1:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

Screw it, I like this team anyhow. Mediocre pitching, but leave it to Soth to get things right.

Let's win one for Nick

by moosemastr on Jul 31, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It'll be funny when we win the WS.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We's waiting in the Shadows

Like Batman. That guys is going to crush people in the post-season.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I sure hope so

Please get rid of Speier. "Yes, I suck."- Jose Guillen.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, Marquis Cooper, Steve McNair, and Frank Grimes, or Grimey, as he liked to be called

by JoseGuillenSux on Jul 31, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe they're working on something with him in SL.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mortgage

Are the same people who wanted us to trade every under 27 player we have & all of the Bees to Toronto for Halliday, the same type of people who mortgaged a $500,000 house when they make $50K a year? It’s bad math. Just cause you want it doesn’t mean it’s wise to do it.

Nick, you will always be an Angel. And you will be missed.

by anaheimisnotla on Jul 31, 2009 1:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't want to deal everyone

I just wanted another top of the line starter. And a deal involving Wood, Aybar, Saunders, and a pitching prospect surely isn’t the entire future.

We have middle infield depth.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked being in first and winning without and I'll continue to like it that way

when we get our beloved ninja signed Torii Hunter back in the lineup it’ll feel like we made a trade

"Boy, did he drop a huge deuce in the stands!" (About a two-run homer)
Rex Hudler

by devildogamp on Jul 31, 2009 1:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Plus Vlad was rounding back into form when he went down again.

Getting Torii and Vlad for Juice and Quinlain/Willits will do a lot.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

also when beckett outduels lackey

and then the other sux pitchers blow away the rest of our guys (look at weav’s stats, he declines in the 2nd half of the year each year and is doing it again) while they have as good of a lineup as us, it will feel like we made a huge trade

R.I.P. #34

by sctrojan13 on Jul 31, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beckett ain't out-dueling Lackey this year.

Fact. Count on it.

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Jul 31, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

twice?

i can see him matching and maybe out-dueling him once in a series

but i consider it a great day to get 3 off beckett in 7 innings

ill eat my hat if im wrong, but i just dont see lackey outdoing beckett twice, and even if he did their bullpen owns theirs

it will take a lot of magic and or luck to win both of the matchups between the aces

R.I.P. #34

by sctrojan13 on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I remember correctly

It was freakin Lester who was killing us.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was both

and we still dont have a #2 starter while the sux have 2 guys that are arguable better than our #1

R.I.P. #34

by sctrojan13 on Jul 31, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Napoli with two bombs won the game off Beckett

it was lester who was killing us check it out

"Boy, did he drop a huge deuce in the stands!" (About a two-run homer)
Rex Hudler

by devildogamp on Jul 31, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats my bad

i swear i remember him killing us tho, did he in the past?

R.I.P. #34

by sctrojan13 on Jul 31, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'll just throw out Matt Palmer and his invincible run support.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

there you go.

That’s a winning move.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

its more comfortable than having saunders throw

Please get rid of Speier. "Yes, I suck."- Jose Guillen.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, Marquis Cooper, Steve McNair, and Frank Grimes, or Grimey, as he liked to be called

by JoseGuillenSux on Jul 31, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you know maybe this seems familiar to me

because isn’t this what 2002 looked like when we were known for comeback wins and the dramatic which just drains opposing teams confidence………. just a thought

"Boy, did he drop a huge deuce in the stands!" (About a two-run homer)
Rex Hudler

by devildogamp on Jul 31, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The difference is the last 2 years we got to the postseason and couldn't score, period.

This year might be the same, but I’m thinking with the O we’ve had the last 2 months, it won’t be.

#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We could still have a trade coming

Something that hasn’t been reported yet.

Poor Halladay. That guy has gone through so much crap lately, its a miracle he hasn’t gone completely nuts yet.

by TheAntiSox on Jul 31, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He did, look at his last start in Seattle.

Mike Napoli speaks softly and carries a big stick.

by 44FAN on Jul 31, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

If he shoots up the front office before his next start, I’d probably understand haha

by TheAntiSox on Jul 31, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

im so tired of hearing the analysts croon over halladay

they are still saying the phils and sux should have gotten him but they arent facing the facts

1.) jp was ridiculous in his asking price
2.)the phils stole lee without really giving anything
3.)pitching has never been the problem for the sux, they needed hitting and they got it

R.I.P. #34

by sctrojan13 on Jul 31, 2009 1:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

but getting Halladay

means never having to face him.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by Jay Cal on Jul 31, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

son of a joto

i hate the red sux

Please get rid of Speier. "Yes, I suck."- Jose Guillen.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, Marquis Cooper, Steve McNair, and Frank Grimes, or Grimey, as he liked to be called

by JoseGuillenSux on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Can't believe

Kotch is over there

You'll never win The Death Game.

by Figgi4life on Jul 31, 2009 3:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

There's a sale on Kleenex at Stater Bros, everyone...

jeez, you think we just got eliminated and the season is over today, judging by some of the posts here.

THIS WAS THE TRADING DEADLINE. There are 62 games and and entire set of playoff games still to be played.

While I would have like to have a Roy Halladay or a Heath Bell or BOTH, you have to give Soth and Reagins the benefit of the doubt. They had all the information on the table right in front of them and they know a lot more than we do about what it was going to take to get Bell or Halladay. So, STFU with the whining.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Jul 31, 2009 4:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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