Jered Got Jobbed
by mattwelch on Jul 5, 2009 6:40 PM PDT
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The American League named 8 starting pitchers to the All-Star game today. Going into today's play, Jered Weaver ranked 7th in the league in ERA, 7th in Adjusted ERA+ (which adjusts for your home park), 3rd in wins, 2nd in complete games, 4th in quality starts, 5th in WHIP, 11th in strikeouts, and 12th in innings pitched. As you all know, he didn't make the team. Here's a list of the top 17 starting pitchers in the league, ranked by ERA+, who have thrown at least 100 innings this year. The All-Stars are in bold.
NM IP W L ERA ERA+ QS Last name
ZG 121 10 4 2.00 214 14 Greinke
EJ 115 6 4 2.59 172 13 Jackson
FH 117 8 3 2.72 162 13 Hernandez
KM 119 8 5 2.80 158 12 Millwood
RH 116 10 2 2.79 154 11 Halladay
MB 108 8 2 3.09 149 10 Buehrle
JW 107 8 3 3.10 144 11 Weaver
NB 107 6 4 3.10 131 11 Blackburn
CL 120 4 8 3.45 131 13 Lee
DB 106 6 7 3.13 130 13 Braden
MG 104 6 5 3.45 129 10 Garza
JS 116 6 6 3.50 127 10 Shields
JV 109 8 4 3.54 126 10 Verlander
JB 105 9 3 3.67 126 11 Beckett
AB 101 7 4 3.83 114 10 Burnett
CS 115 7 5 3.85 114 8 Sabathia
TW 103 10 3 4.30 108 10 Wakefield
What jumps out here, aside from the highway robbery on poor Kevin Millwood, is that it's not as if Joe Maddon had to pick Justin Verlander, Josh Beckett and Tim Wakefield to fill quotas from crappy teams. Edwin Jackson and Curtis Granderson were already representing the Tigers, and Lord knows there's never any shortage of Red Sox.
I actually don't mind the Wakefield pick, since he's a good old guy making the team for the first time at age 42, has probably deserved it before, and is certainly the winningest non-All Star active, if not of all time. Plus, he can throw 10 extra innings if need be. But did Beckett and Verlander really deserve it more than Jered Weaver? Oh hell no they didn't.
The silver lining, obviously, is that Jered will have extra rest over the break, and hopefully be kicked up the rotation in front of Joe Saunders, who looks like he needs a nap.
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WTF?
Weaver’s been so-so the past week, but WHAT? Don’t tell me Weaver can’t outpitch a 42 year old all-star virgin. Screw the league! Weaver will go all Cy Young on ’em, so we can just move along.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
by vlad IS my man on Jul 5, 2009 6:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Weaver should have
Taken Verlander’s spot. How JV got a spot and Jered didn’t is beyond me times 5.
What the HELL is wrong with Madden?
by TheAntiSox on Jul 5, 2009 7:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Verlander leads the AL in Ks, that's why he's in...
I have a problem with Beckett and Wakefield, though – poor decision by Maddon
I see red people
by The Limey on Jul 6, 2009 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Both Beckett and Wakefield have a lot of wins but Wakefield’s ERA is 4.30! Wtf?
by TheAntiSox on Jul 6, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In all honesty...
I’m kind of glad to see that WTY didn’t make the team. In a rotation where he and Lackey have provided a majority of the punch, I want to see them get some extra rest and like you said they can bump up Weaver so Saunders can get MORE of a break. Plus maybe this gets used by him to fuel him for the rest of the season. Have him pitch the next half with a Texas sized chip on his shoulder. Only good things can come from this. Also, as much as I hate the Sux, I am glad to see Wakefield on the all star team.
Phys: Well, Coon doesn't have a lot of power but he's a good bunter
Coon: F$%# That!
Thanks Zu
by halofan4life on Jul 5, 2009 7:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Boy
it’s a good thing that Tim Wakefield and the EAST COAST BIAS were finally overcome so that one of the best pitchers in the entire league this year could finally get a much-deserved all-star spot.
Oh wait…that didn’t happen.
Fuck the east coast bias. Fuck the “old guy finally getting his due for being really mediocre for a really long time” angle. Fuck the Sox Nation jubilation. Fuck the “it’s nice to see him there” crap.
If you want to be on the team, you earn it through performance. If Wakefield wanted to finally be on the team, it shouldn’t be enough to be really mediocre for years and years…how about you earn it like guys like Weaver do by actually PERFORMING.
Goddamn, this infuriates me. It’s one thing to get hosed by a bunch of chowdhead Bostonian retards. It’s another for a coach to overlook a MASSIVE statistical differential to give props to his own division.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jul 5, 2009 9:29 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Tim Wakefield making the AS team
… is the equivalent of pity sex. Except that the Angel’s fans [and Weaver] were the ones who got screwed.
There were a number of weird selections. Ted Lilly? WTF!
Torii Hunter: Best Halo Ever.
by LazorkoRules on Jul 5, 2009 9:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i don't think the rest of the league got the memo...
that jared weaver and jeff weaver are two different pithcers.
by thejd on Jul 5, 2009 9:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well I'm glad I no longer really need to watch the Red Sox invitational
How dare you Joe Maddon…I thought we were friends.
RIP #34
by linkbruin on Jul 5, 2009 10:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
When I heard on Baseball tonight that there are 6 (SIX!!!!) Red Sox I ALMOST PUKED!!!
WHY IS MADDEN SUCKING UP TO THE F-ING SUX!!!!?
Only 2 Starters, so they picked 4 more, the most from any team
All together now, to the folks that made the choice: FUCK YOU!!!! I HATE THE FUCKING RED SOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeez, you’d think Madden would a given a little love to the team that enabled him to become a manager. Especially when as has been described, regardless of his last few craptastic starts, Weaver is still top 10. But even if Weaver didn’t make the team, why so much sucking up Joe
P.S, My Cat Tiger Lilly, says T. Lilly was a great choice. I agree.
by Big Bad, 'Vlad'! on Jul 5, 2009 10:06 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Maybe Maddon is thinking ahead
I would love to see all those Red Sox pitchers throwing extending innings in the all star game while Weaver is resting up for a dominate 2nd half.
by LosAngel on Jul 5, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His division rivals...
he wants to tire them out. Good plan, Joe.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 6, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta admit they made it up to you guys by sending Fuentes there..
I’m not sure how he could have made it over Aardsma? Weaver deserved it much more than Fuentes did as well. Seems like Maddon went to MLB.com, stats, and sorted by saves leaders, and chose the top 4. Pretty damn bogus the Sox have 6 there also.
by seamariners85 on Jul 5, 2009 10:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
good point but...
when you lead the league in a stat come all-star break, I think you almost automatically get a nod. Fuentes has most saves so he goes. That being said, Aardsma has been good but not lights out and is borderline all-star material.
NOT to say Fuentes has been lights-out…just saying he leads the league in a big f-ing stat.
And yes, bogus the Sox have six players on the team but…you know…duh.
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jul 5, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aardvark didn't make it?
Bummer. Also, I don’t know how Kinsler gets selected ahead of Pedroia.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 6, 2009 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinsler didn't.
Kinsler’s only hope is the final vote
Phys: Well, Coon doesn't have a lot of power but he's a good bunter
Coon: F$%# That!
Thanks Zu
by halofan4life on Jul 6, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops... should have been:
“I don’t know how Pedroia gets selected ahead of Kinsler”
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 6, 2009 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuentes (so far) has posted a very good tRA*
Fuentes tRA*: 3.96
Aardsma tRA*: 4.29
(Now that I’ve jinxed him, watch Fuentes surrender a grand slam tonight)
At least the Fuentes selection has some merit.
But having Wakefield on the all-star team is absurd.
by Fan Since 1981 on Jul 6, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction.
I shouldn’t refer to Fuentes’ tRA* as “very good”. Decent, but not great.
by Fan Since 1981 on Jul 6, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take off the first 3 innings of Fuentes's season,
and he becomes damn near an all-star at least. 26.1 innings, 7 ER, 2.39 ERA, .611 OPS against, 1.11 WHIP and knock on wood a 12.1 inning scoreless streak going.
That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey
by anaheim angels on Jul 6, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, but it works both ways..
If we take off Aardsma’s blown save against you guys (still have nightmares from that one) where he gave up 3 ER in 2/3 IP, he is left at 37.2 IP, 3 ER, 1.01 WHIP, 0.72 ERA. (If everything was calculated right).
Still not sure why Wak put him in the third straight game against you guys there..
by seamariners85 on Jul 7, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not trying to take anything away from Aardsma.
Just saying its not like Fuentes wasnt deserving.
That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey
by anaheim angels on Jul 7, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Though Weaver deserves it more than Fuentes
Besides the saves, Fuentes was picked because he’s a left hander.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by stolenbases on Jul 6, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maddon also jobbed our dear Figgy
IMO his weirdest pick is Ben Zobrist as the super-utility guy. OK Zobrist is having a good year, taking over 2B from Aki Iwamura, but not All-Star quality. And the guy is a .241 career hitter.
Our Desmond, on the other hand, does it year after year and Maddon above all should know that. At least Maddon threw Figgy a bone by including him in the Final Vote 5 but there will be stiff competition there from all those stupid Texans who have nothing better to do but click Ian Kinsler’s name a million times.
And I really can’t understand Verlander or Beckett over Weaver. But … it’s just a Suxahibition game.
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Jul 6, 2009 4:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
you mean the guy with the .998 OPS and .598 SLG?
2nd in the AL in slugging. Zobrist deserved this as well.
That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey
by anaheim angels on Jul 6, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
weird selection.....
I was extremely stunned that those 3 pitchers were picked over several good pitchers including weaver. I know they have the name and all but this is about performance. You don’t have to be flashy or on a east coast team to be a good quality pitcher. Hell just imagine how us Ranger fans feel cause Millwood has been not only a good pitcher this year and deserved to go but also a mentor to our staff. The whole all star thing pisses me off to no end. Hell as much as I love the way Hamilton plays and I am a big texas fan, he should have not accepted to go. I know he would hav gotten backlash from MLB and fans cause they voted him in but hell he hasnt performed this year due to injury. It robs us of seeing the people performing and yes their names may not stand out but they are good players. Ok im done bitching lol.
by dubious on Jul 6, 2009 7:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maddon
I don’t know that it’s all Maddon here. Don’t the players decide the majority of the pitchers and reserves, and then Maddon fills in a few leftover spots?
by Sethy on Jul 6, 2009 7:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As a manager,
like Welch said, Wakefield can pitch 10 innings of an all-star game. Good idea, if you can’t have a tie ballgame, for a manager to have a guy like Wakefield on his side to win.
since 1961
by Chompo on Jul 6, 2009 8:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rivalry aside for a minute
I think it’s gotta hurt for Millwood a little more, I mean when you think Angels you think good pitching but when have you ever considered a Ranger for All Star status?
"Boy, did he drop a huge deuce in the stands!" (About a two-run homer)
Rex Hudler
by devildogamp on Jul 6, 2009 10:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The funniest thing
is reading dickhead Sox fans try to justify the pick with crap about how he’s “an ambassador” and “a great guy.”
Yeah, well…if fuckin’ Gandhi threw up a 5.70ERA, it doesn’t make him a great pitcher. Too bad. GTFO my all-star team, old man mediocre.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jul 6, 2009 11:03 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
you win for that one line
“Yeah, well…if fuckin’ Gandhi threw up a 5.70ERA, it doesn’t make him a great pitcher”
hahahahahaha awesome
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
by howiestheman on Jul 6, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad, but at least our tender rotation won't get screwed in a freak all-star incident.
This year, more than recent years, I do think the Angels need to be careful to protect our players. Fuentes is a better pick than Weaver for us in that, being a closer who is used to pitching 1 inning, multiple games in a row, his routine won’t get thrown off by throwing in the all-star game. Who knows what might happen with WTY, and if we lose him, I’m not sure we can pull it off this season.
Hunter, on the other hand, has proven that he can pretty much take a bullet to the spine, and still be in the game the next day. Fingers crossed, he should be fine as long as he doesn’t run through any walls or get beaned.
Keep those hammies limber, boys.
by Rally Manatee on Jul 6, 2009 11:41 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I believe Weaver's ERA went up a full run over his last two starts...
justified or not (clearly not based on the stats above) that’s probably what got him bumped off the roster.
by Nashdiesel on Jul 6, 2009 3:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I just lost a lot of respect for Joe Maddon and his baseball sense.
"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana
by Chzburger Jones on Jul 6, 2009 4:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish I could rile up some anger over this
But its happened to our guys so often for so many years, I’m not even surprised anymore
This team is gonna kill me.
by HaloDutch on Jul 6, 2009 5:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I've also learned to live with things like this.
Doesn’t hurt to have a few days off in the middle of a long season.
*Ade-Rock 34*
by TheTypingFiend on Jul 6, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only a Suxhibition
Red Sox vs. the NL. I would really like to see Figgy go though …. vote like the wind, maybe our informal vote-swapping deal with the AZ Snakepit will help out!
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Jul 7, 2009 6:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tim Wakefield
I am okay with Tim Wakefield finally being on an All-Star team. At games I have been to Wakefield is 1-5. The one win was last August in Kansas City. It is a good thing for Wakefield that he will participate in the 2009 All-Star Game in St. Louis and NOT in the 2010 All-Star Game in Anaheim! His knuckleball doesn’t knuck when there is a marine layer!
Jered Weaver certainly should have been selected ahead of Josh Beckett, the Red Sox player I love to hate. Weaver the Younger will get a chance to Hang Ten at the beach over this year’s All-Star break. Wait until next year, Weav!
by Yetijuice on Jul 7, 2009 12:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Marine Layer
His knuckleball doesn’t knuck when there is a marine layer!
Have you ever spent summer in St. Louis? The humidity there makes our marine layer look like the middle of the Sahara Desert.
Angels fan since '67
by red floyd on Jul 7, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is nothing Mediterranean about St. Louis!
I saw three games in St. Louis in each of August 1971, May 1972, July 2005, and August 2008. That makes a total of twelve Cardinals home games I have been to. My first two visits in St. Louis I stayed at the YMCA and the Warwick Hotel, both of which were not air conditioned.
I don’t have the breakdown for Tim Wakefield’s games in the state of Missouri. At games I have been to Wakefield is 1-0 in Kansas City, 0-4 in Anaheim Stadium, and 0-1 at Dodger Stadium. Cool humid southern California air is much more comfortable than hot humid Mississippi River Valley air. Phoenix, Las Vegas, and the Inland Empire provide a triangle that is closer to the Sahara Desert than the city of Orange (where I am now) does.
My friend Ron Lewis and I were driving in St. Louis late at night on Memorial Day weekend in 1972 when we saw four policemen in the same patrol car. We figured we were in the wrong part of town and departed that area. East St. Louis Toodle-Ooo!
by Yetijuice on Jul 7, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Yo Holmes, do you know how to get back to the Interstate?”
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 7, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
East St. Louis Toodle-Ooo!
+1 Steely Dan
Angels fan since '67
by red floyd on Jul 7, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do we know if Wakefield was a mgr. pick
or one of the players’ picks?
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
by Moondoggy on Jul 7, 2009 2:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It just doesn't matter
No matter how revisionist all this “we love Tim” crap is, my indelible memory was at game 7, 2003 ALCS when I watched Wakefield throw one of his goofy knuckleballs to Aaron F’ing Boone to end Red Sox hopes for that season. I was immensely happy (and I’m not usually happy when Yankees win).
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
by Moondoggy on Jul 7, 2009 2:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I root for the Red Sox when they play the Yankees
Instead of Tim Wakefield, I wish Josh Beckett had given up that home run to Aaron Boone! I know, Beckett did not become a Red Sox until 2006.
by Yetijuice on Jul 7, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny. That's the *ONLY* time I root for the Yankees.
OK, I root for the Yanks on the rare occasion that they play the Doyers.
When the Sux play the Doyers, I want them both to lose.
Angels fan since '67
by red floyd on Jul 7, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I root for the Yankees when they play the Red Sox now.
up until 2004 it was the other way around
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
by hauldog on Jul 7, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I root for both of them to lose when they play each other
RIP #34
by linkbruin on Jul 7, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
your mouth to God's ears
In 1989, I was living in NY and I was asked who I wanted to win the world series between Oakland and SF. I said i hoped there was an earthquake and that both teams were swallowed up. The next day I went in to work and was looked with horrified stares and people proclaiming I was the most evil person on earth. I was pretty sheepish for a couple of days.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
by Moondoggy on Jul 7, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s eerie. Don’t make any more predictions like that, please! ;)
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 7, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about...
…a prediction that Joe West, Doug Eddings, Josh Beckett and Pierzynski the catcher for the White Sox will get kidnapped by aliens and rendered unable to participate in human-based activities ever again? Can’t he make that prediction? Pretty please?
by sothball on Jul 7, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
woah woah woah woah woah
WAY out of line. Not even taking GMJ with them?
That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey
by anaheim angels on Jul 9, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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