money that will be freed up
The Angels will have a good chunk o' change coming off the books this off season.
-- Guerrero - $15m
-- Escobar - $9.5m
-- Lackey - $9m
-- Figgins - $6m
-- Abreu - $5m
-- Oliver - $3.6m
-- Quinlan - $1m
I think that is a complete list. ---I didn't well in math in high school or college but that is 49.1 million.
Assuming obviously that we don't resign Q and Escobar, that leaves 49.1 million between Vlad, Lackey, Figgy, Abreu, Oliver
You have to assume that Vladdy wont get 15 mill on his next contract, People commonly believe he is done I don't, however, I just believe he is done in RF. You bring him back for 10 million for 2 years with the understaning that he will play Rf only 2-3 times a month to give guys a rest at the DH spot. I say bring it on
Oliver is our only lefty in the pen and even at 3 million maybe sign him to a one year deal. (his agent will probably want a 2-3 year deal)
That leaves 36.1 million to spend on Lackey, Figgy, and Abreu. without even raising what you have spent this season, and even then Arte has shown the ability to pull the string and bump up payroll.
My prediction is we sign 2 of the three with probably Lackey being the odd man out. I think with Figgy, holding down 3b and Aybar solidifying himself at SS that leaves Wood with no plave to go. Loosing our #1 stater + wood to me means that Halliday will definetely be on our radar. But which do you prefer, Halliday or Lackey?
You also have the issue of all of these Type A's we will have Abreu, Figgy and Lackey for sure and I think I heard that Vladdy might be one too. If we trade Wood + a bunch of prospects and get a Halliday in return might be a good deal in the end, since we would get two great picks for Lackey (and anyone else that doen't come back)
I want this team intact as long as possible I like the chemistry and the ability to win. If only there was a magical way to get rid of Mathis, GMJ and get some bullpen help in return but that is a pipedream
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but Holliday in the AL is not the same Holliday in the NL. Then, if we resign Abreu, like I think we should, where does Holliday play if Vlad is also resigned? Simply put, I don’t think we need to even look at Holliday. Our Abreu-inspired offense is best in the league. I don’t know whether Lackey is coming back, but I also think Reagins and Arte will make a push to keep him, and find another. As for Ollie, I thought he was playing it by year because he wanted to. He’s not done, but he might want to be.
If we resign Figgy, it might not be the first time we have a player win a gold glove and change his position the following year…
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by feNOMINAL on Aug 21, 2009 11:27 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
i'm thinking
he’s talking about replacing lackey with HAllAday..
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GG at SS for the Rangers last year, moved to 3B this year to make way for Elvis Andrus.
by George Kaplan on Aug 21, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
You might want to note how much money already came off the books this season, as well.
We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.
good point
Quit Bitching about Wood not playing, The guy does deserve his shot but quit pretending that we have Willie Mays riding the pine
by Sinatrasratpack on Aug 21, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. Dollars to donuts that if they took the money coming off last year and this
they could resign ALL of these guys and still hold payroll at 2008 levels, if not below.
It ain’t my money, of course, so I don’t know what the impact of the economy has had on their bottom line. That is the primary reason that I have not been complaining about this.
We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.
Tough guesses
I’ve been thinking lately that a lot of teams will want Lackey enough to pay him more than we will. I think that if hes going anywhere that hes going to sign with Texas, for two reasons.
A- Hes from Texas and loves it there. B- Nolan Ryan (President of the Rangers) will likely make a strong push at a guy that can pitch over 120 pitches like Lackey.
However, I don’t think the Angels will let him walk mostly because I think we all hate the idea of the Halos experimenting with both O’Sullivan and Bell in the rotation.
Figgy, on the other hand, probably has a better chance to walk. He’s said before that hes very excited for free agency, which says to me that he wants the biggest paycheck. A LOT of teams are looking for a player like Figgins this off season. He has so much talent in so many areas.
But say we do offer him the biggest paycheck, what does that mean for Wood? It means, obviously, he’s displaced. There is no way we can just make a player of his potential just leapfrog between AAA and the show for yet ANOTHER year.
Sosh has said before that there will be a spot for Wood soon, not eventually, but soon.
Say Figgy walks, then who the hell is going to lead off?
Maybe its possible we could make a trade for a front of the line starter, like we tried before the deadline, including either Aybar or Kendrick so that Wood and Figgy can start, but that’s a BIG uncertainty.
Now, lets talk outfielders. We have GOT to do something about GMJ this off season, he just won’t fit anywhere, which makes nobody happy.
On to Abreu and Vlad. It would be difficult to let the Troll go after all hes done for the offense this year, he has been great. Vlad, however, is tricky because hes just not the 2004 MVP anymore. Although, the Troll might demand
Meanwhile, we have Napoli and Mathis to worry about. We can’t just let Napoli’s bat go waste anymore. Its either catcher or DH and, at this point, its looking like the only way he’s going to get his full season of at-bats is if he DH’s.
If they do make Nap the full time DH, then you can FORGET Vlad or Abreu. It would be one or the other.
Earlier this year, Matt Holliday expressed interest in playing with the Angels, saying he loved the way they play and he loved the area. Since he’s a free agent this year, he may sign on a discount if he really wants to play here. However, earlier this year he didn’t show much talent in the AL west, so that option may be out.
I personally think that the Angels with work something out with Lackey and Abreu and let Figgins and Vlad walk this offseason. But who the hell knows anymore?
Holliday < Vlad or Abreau
This year with Oakland exposed how inflated his NL stats were by playing in Colorado.
It will get a little messy
-Matt Holliday: Boras clients don’t sign for discounts. I expect the Cardinals will pay what it takes to keep him hitting behind Pujols.
-Expect Mathis and Napoli to continue as a tandem, like Ferguson and Yeager in days of yore. The old catcher knows the wear and tear the season brings to a catcher, and besides, Scioscia doesn’t feel that Napoli’s defensive skills are where they should be to have the job full time.
-Wood: If he goes to 3B, then Figgins to LF, that leaves too many OF. If they trade Kendrick and move Figgins over there, then they take a huge risk in giving up one of their most prized young players. Maybe Wood IS the odd man out, after all this time.
-Vlad: His renaissance at the plate after the horrible start to the season for him has been nothing less than miraculous. It is as if he bumped into Ponce de Leon a few weeks ago. He’s even running better than he has all season long. It will be very difficult for the Angels not to re-sign one of the most popular and productive players (on a per-year basis) in Angel history.
-Abreu: I think Arte will pay what it takes to lock him up for two-plu-an-option. Abreu has been the tonic the lineup has needed, especially ironic considering all the cries for the power bat over the past few years. Abreu’s power numbers are down, but his contribution to the offense is powerful.
-Lackey: I think he’ll get a better offer elsewhere, though the Rangers will need a new owner before they can start writing fat contracts.
by George Kaplan on Aug 21, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Holliday is getting a bad rap about playing in the AL West
The A’s fans were insistent his struggles were correlated to a bad suggestion Mark McGwire gave him about his swing and he eventually dropped it and that’s when his numbers picked up. Basically the guy had miserable April and has been nails since then.
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by Figgi4life on Aug 21, 2009 12:28 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I keep hearing bring Abreu back, ( which I agree with), but the argument against Matt Holliday is “nails with no HR’s” exactly how different from Abreu is that. They both have 12 I believe.
by Baylorsgroove on Aug 25, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Moot point
Matt Holliday is a Scott Boras client.
I think we all know how well that fits into Arte’s plans.
The team will gladly take Abreu for two years.
by George Kaplan on Aug 25, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
“Just say NO to Boras!”
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Aug 25, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess it all depends
I think the front office makes offers to all of them. Fair offers, too. But I don’t think they will get into bidding wars with any of them, primarily due to the fact that the Halos have options.
At that point, it will be up to the player, his agent, and his wife (!) to decide.
My best guess? Figgins and Lackey leave for greener pastures despite Tony’s best efforts. Vlad and Abreu stay, but I have no idea at what amounts/years. I don’t even think Oliver knows what he wants to do; if he continues to play, though, it will be in Anaheim.
Perhaps that would be a nice addition to this post: What would be your best offer to each of these guys to entice them to stay? We’re fans, it’s OK to speculate a little….
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes
This is what I assume as well
just like last year, we’ll make fair market offers but Ninja wont be used to jack up the price.
I hope to hell we resign Figgy, though…..
Tell your statistics to shut up
Oliver is retiring this year, I think.
I think I heard something earlier this year about him being coaxed to accept his current contract, and isn’t it only a one-year contract?
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
this is a great "problem" to have...
1) a lot of money coming off the books
2) 4 top in-house free agents who would all like to re-sign, granted only one (vlad) would need to take a cut.
3) w/approx. 75-80 million committed in 2010 payroll (this is counting raises for arb eligible players & speier money) we could realistically sign lackey for 13.5, figgy 10.0, vlad & abreu for 9.0 each and our payroll would be 118.5 million, only up 4.0 million from this year. this is before subtracting any players for a potential trade
4) if we can’t/don’t sign abreu or vladdy we could still after holliday.
I already have Lackey penciled into the Yankees rotation...
simpy because I’m a pessimist and they have a shitload of money to throw around. Hope he stays though.
Lackey going to the Yankees annoys me, but not as much as the idea of him going to the Rangers.
That said, I don’t think the Rangers can afford him.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
Question
Does Matthews No-Trade clause expire af the end of this season?
If it does, then it makes him a little easier to trade, although we have to get someone to take on the rest of that contract.
We're putting the band back togehter.
The dollars of that contract is the real no trade clause.
The actual NTC is pointless.
i have this pit in my stomach feeling that...
gmj will be with the halos for the 2010 & 2011 and will see the end of his contract. he will be outright released (and make every penny of that contract) before he’s traded.
2yr $10M is too cheap for Vladdy... ($5M per year)
he is going to command about $8M – $10M per season, at least.
I love this team.
8 mil sounds just about right
hopefully we thinks that too if he wants to come back
We Will Win With What We Got.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, Marquis Cooper, Steve McNair, and Frank Grimes, or Grimey, as he liked to be called
by JoseGuillenSux on Aug 23, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
i mean he instead of "we"
damn it..
We Will Win With What We Got.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, Marquis Cooper, Steve McNair, and Frank Grimes, or Grimey, as he liked to be called
by JoseGuillenSux on Aug 23, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I doubt we'll sign any non-Angel free agents this year
We’re in hoarding-draftpick mode, and meanwhile winning 100 games a year breaking in a generation of young talent. With that as backdrop (along with the always-important notion that Arte has kept payroll essentially flat when adjusted for inflation for the past five years) my predictions (which look a lot like my preferences!) are:
- We go after Abreu, and lock him up to a 2-year deal, maybe w/ option, for around $10 mil per. Both and the team and the player have expressed multiple times they want this to happen.
- Vladdie gets offered arb, not a new contract, and he accepts arb. Remember, the maximum pay cut is like 80% of last year’s salary. That’s still a big number. Meanwhile, Vladdy’s health is a huge question, so he may be interested in proving he can still play a full season. Also, he likes it here, and wants to stay.
- We go hard after Lackey, but not if it means five guaranteed years. This year has proven you can’t have enough rotation depth, particularly at the front end of it. Lackey is a clubhouse leader, and a helluva pitcher. But five years is too much, and the Yankees might outbid us for four.
- Bye-bye, Figgy. There isn’t a position he plays that we don’t have an answer for, and retaining a guy who has been a great leadoff hitter twice for $50 mil/4 is just too expensive. This is how we keep regenerating the team, by letting our 31-year-olds walk.
The rest of the saved money, I reckon, will be plowed into raises, and buying out arb years, and otherwise locking in our great young talent.
Oh, and I think we'll try to trade GMJ before spring training, and if there are no takers, waive him
Hard to see their eating $23MM.
How many times are we going to do this Appier/Speier thing?
I'm with you on all of the above, except...
I think after the episode of Hunter’s injury, the Angels might be inclined to keep Matthews as an insurance policy against another stint on the DL for Torii.
He isn’t Hunter’s offensive equal and certainly not his defensive equal, but who is in AAA and capable of stepping into the OF to cover some of the huge CFs in the league? Simply put, Matthews plays a better CF than anyone I can think of in the Angels org, aside from Hunter. Likewise, he can spell Rivera or Abreu (assuming he is RF in 2010) for a game, which gives Scioscia the lineup flexibility he craves.
I am sure Reagins will try like hell to trade GMJ, but if it doesn’t happen—and I don’t think it will, since I was counting on Matthews to have a return-to-2006 season to boost his value—I don’t think the team will be too unhappy.
by George Kaplan on Aug 22, 2009 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Sean Rodriguez....
is capable of stepping up in the outfield. Dude plays center down in SLC sometimes. Just as they goomed Kendry into a 1st baseman within one off-season, they can groom S-Rod into a premier outfielder.
Watch it happen….
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
doubt figgins leaves
not saying i agree one way or another, but i just dont see him leaving. they’ll resign him and probably look to package wood in some kind of deal for pitching
RIP Nick Adenhart
by ihearhowie2.0 on Aug 21, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Same here
Somebody’s going to go but it most likely won’t be Wood.
If they were going to trade him, they would have done it already.
i agree with everything here...
Figgy wont get re-signed especially where S-Rod and Wood are at. Also, someone’s going to cough up the dough for Lackey and we arent going to match it. But like i said in my comment below, for a guy who is the most outspoken character on the team, going into his 30’s and has started the last two seasons on the DL…then maybe thats not such a bad thing.
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree as well...
Abreu will be the Angels priority in the offseason. He will be resined.
I think most of a us would like to keep Figgins, but I doubt we will with Wood in the picture.
I hope to see Vlad retire in an Angel uniform. I think the front office could go either way with him though.
I’d love to keep Lackey as well, but being the best pitcher on the Free Agent market this offseason, I doubt we can outbid the other teams. We’ll see how much love Lackey has for staying put with the Angels. I bet the Angels make a serious offer, but not the best one…which usually means the player walks.
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by Angel Hawker on Aug 22, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree Figgins is a goner
Someone probably will give him $40M over 4 years. Teams that could afford him and use an upgrade at 2B include: Mets, Astros, Cardinals, Dodgers (if Hudson isn’t resigned), Toronto (Hill moving to 3B), Detroit (Polanco will be FA) etc etc. There will be no shortage of suitors for the guy. Good for him. He’s earned a big pay day.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes
by johnnyangel101 on Aug 23, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
It wouldn't surprise me if no Angel free agents are brought back
Note all the discounts and giveaways on Angel tickets this year in a 3 million or bust attendance attempt. The economy is bad and this has to be hitting the team in the wallet.
I think Wood is at 3B, and the only other places Figgy could go, SS and 2B, are locked up with Aybar and Kendrick. Figgy couldn’t cut it in CF which is why GMJ was acquired. I don’t see him in the outfield at all. So I think Figgy is gone unless Wood or Kendrick are traded. The Angels wouldn’t trade Aybar if a gun was put to their head. I think Aybar is the reason no trades could be made in July.
Abreu is the most likely returnee, because in part he has such a positive impact on the whole team.
Vlad has to accept a big pay cut for maybe a year + a club option. Hope so because I want his bust in Cooperstown with an Angel chapeau.
Lackey won’t play for what the Angels are willing to give him, and if I were the Angels I’d wonder about him missing the first month-6 weeks of the season two years in a row and some of his erratic outings. Don’t get me wrong, I want him back and think the Angels want him back enough to offer something out of their comfort range but still not enough to reel him in.
As wacky as it may sound, I’ll confess it has entered my mind that one reason Wood is being held back this year is for the purposes of ticket sales next year. If he played a lot this year and didn’t set things on fire, what drawing card do they have if few or no free agent signings take place?
by California Cajun on Aug 25, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Possible scenario
Figgins is re-signed, Kendrick is traded in a deal for a front-line pitcher, and Figgins is installed at 2B—his natural position. Howie has burnished both his value to the team in his resurgence, AND his value in a trade. He also doesn’t hit his free agency until 2013.
BTW, I don’t think anyone was lobbying for Figgins to play CF again, but LF is a distinct possiblity. As Manny and Adam Dunn have shown, one doesn’t need to be a magician with the leather or have a cannon arm to play LF. He’s do very well. The problem, of course, is that the team would want to re-sign Abreu, already has Rivera under contract, and most likely has a thought of keeping Vlad for two more years. Thus, there is no spot in the OF for Figgins, instead of not wanting to place him there.
by George Kaplan on Aug 25, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
The offseason is when this place fills up with all those mountains of implausible trade packages.
We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.
Holladay and Holliday
for Willits and Matthews. Straight up
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Aug 23, 2009 1:14 AM PDT up reply actions
GMJ was almost traded before ST for Bronson Arroyo. I know I’ve said it before, and you keep harping on the 4.% ERA, but at least Arroyo has a track record of winning some games. O’Sullivan and Bell have ERA’s higher and no track record. Plus if you trade GMJ for Arroyo you are saving about 4.5 mill on contract, and you at least get a decent end of rotation pitcher.
Yes, but
Arroyo is 32, whereas O’Sullivan is 21 (ALMOST 22) and Bell is 22. O and B have potential, Arroyo does not. He has shown what he can do.
Having O’Sullivan and Bell up this season has, I think, given them valuable experience that will allow them to make great strides in AA and AAA over the next couple of years and will make them that much more valuable to the Halos when they rejoin the big league club on a full-time basis.
It sucks that this valuable experience for them had to come in the middle of a season of uncertainty when almost every start counts in terms of reaching the playoffs and having success there, but as we’ve seen there have (thus far) been no truly detrimental consequences to the experiment. In fact, one might argue that they, especially O’Sullivan, have still contributed significantly to the Angels’ success this season. I would argue that Arroyo, on the other hand, would have been middling to mediocre at best and would have provided no long-term value. The way things have panned out, the team has gotten value AND given the young guys some great experience.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Lackey goes elsewhere...
He seems to be the most outspoken about this ball club…always complaining about how we rarely ever make moves come trade deadline. I just feel like hes gonna want the cash-o-la and his asking price isnt going to be where Ninja and Arte are willing to pay.
Which, for a starter going into his 30’s who has started the last two seasons on the DL, then maybe it is time to move on.
Do it for Nick '09
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 10:00 AM PDT reply actions
we've got to keep Lackey
Nothing is more important to the make-up of a team than starting pitching depth. He is without a doubt one of the better pitchers in Angels history and is very reliable. When he does get injured, he does so early in the year as opposed to later and in the postseason.
Let's go Howie...
Lackey typically appears fatigued late in the season.
I think he’s peaked.
I think Lackey walks. Maybe Baltimore
The angels trade for Halliday resign Figgins Guerrero and Abreu.
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
I don't think Wood's going anywhere.
Imagine……..
The Angels are lined up to have the prototypical perfect infield for a lot of years into the future:
Power switch-hitting 1Bman.
Power hitting, slick fielding 3Bman whom Ricciardi demands for Halladay.
All-Everything, switch-hitting SS whom Ricciardi demands for Halladay.
High average, possible batting champ 2Bman with hugh upside.
The oldest, Morales and Kendrick, just turned 26 years old. Wood, the youngest, will be 25 going into the 2010 season. Excluding Morales, all are reasonably to exceptionally fast. All are home grown.
Imagine Figgy going down for the season with an injury tomorrow. Who in the Angels’ organization would you want playing 3B the rest of the way?
wood hasnt done anything yet. He’s a prospect, whose value is quickly falling. If we can trade him for halladay with other prospects, id do it in a heartbeat.
In Kobe we trust!
Since that 3-run bomb
Off of Pettite earlier this year Wood has gone 0-14. So I agree he hasn’t done much in the majors yet.
However, not many people expected Morales to have done so well this season either.
That, and
WOOD STILL HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN CONSISTENT AT BATS. THE ENTIRETY OF HIS MAJOR LEAGUE CAREER CONSTITUTES LESS THAN A FULL SEASON OF PLAY. HE IS 24 YEARS OLD.
Sorry, but I’m getting really annoyed by all this “Wood hasn’t proven himself” shyte. Give it a rest, people. It’s awfully hard to prove yourself if your track record is based on being thrown in during parts of two seasons—2007, 2008—before you’re ready, and then being called up to rot on the bench after you’ve shown you’ve got nothing left to prove in AAA.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
Explain how he got cheated out of a chance to break into the lineup during Spring Training.
We don't have a Bullpen. We have a Cowpen. Before we get to call it a Bullpen these guys gotta grow a pair.
That's not what I'm arguing
He’s blocked right now by the organization’s great positional depth—which is no one’s fault, it’s just the way it is.
What I take issue with is the conclusion that if he’s still in AAA, ergo, he must not be proven. Especially since he’s had a whole 40-50 at bats this year and was mediocre. Or maybe it was the 100 or so ABs he had last year, spread out over six months. Or perhaps the less than 50 the year before that.
Anyway, point is it’s ridiculous to say Wood “hasn’t proven anything.” He hasn’t been given the legitimate CHANCE to prove anything. Aside from the ability to hit 31 HR at AAA last year and 21 HR at AAA this year, or the ability to post a lifetime .896 OPS down there. Sure, that doesn’t translate exactly to an .896 OPS, or better, in the majors, but the man has to be given the opportunity to produce up here before anyone goes and writes him off, as so many are right now willing to do.
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
I did. I predicted 30 Hr, and 100 RBI from him. But I also predicted Abreu would break the single season doubles record. (ai’nt gonna happen).
by Baylorsgroove on Aug 25, 2009 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Bust out your highlighter
And highlight the words, not many people in that last sentence.
Congrats being not many people.
I was that not many people when I predicted that Abreu would hit about 15 Hrs, too early to tell if that will be the case.
He’s got 12, couls still happen. But 30+ more doubles nope
by Baylorsgroove on Aug 25, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree. Wood has shown nothing. In fact when the Angels talked to Toronto about Halladay, Wood was nothing more than a throw in to sweeten the pot. Do you really want that at third over figgy?
by Baylorsgroove on Aug 25, 2009 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Really?
You were involved with the negotiations?
by George Kaplan on Aug 25, 2009 5:52 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I was whispering in Tony’s ear the whole time we were on conference call. ;P
by Baylorsgroove on Aug 25, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
“Order the spicy chicken burrito, Tony. For $2.29, it packs quite a bit of fresh chicken and spicy goodness.”
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Aug 25, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
We send Bell, O’Sullivan, Matthews and Wood to Toronto for Halladay after his agreeing to a three year extension.
Toronto already said
No negotiations with Halladay prior to a deal. A team which takes him on can negotiate AFTER the deal is done. Otherwise, it causes things to drag out too long.
And there is no way in hell the Jays would want Matthews. Why do you think they dumped Rios’ contract?
by George Kaplan on Aug 25, 2009 5:54 AM PDT up reply actions
throw in
Throw in the spicy chicken burrito or two if they let us negotiate
by Baylorsgroove on Aug 26, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions

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