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Our Starting Pitchers Since Mid-July

On July 18, Scott Kazmir made his 3rd start after a 5-week stint on the disabled list. He'd been terrible up that point in the season -- 4-5 with a 7.11 ERA -- but he'd spent the time off getting healthy and re-locating his velocity under the tutelage of pitching guru Rick Peterson. It finally paid off, with his first quality start since April 24: 6 innings, 1 run. Including that game, Kazmir has racked up 7 quality starts in 9 games, going 4-3 with a 4.07 ERA, striking out 49 and walking 18 in 55.1 innings.

How have our other starting pitchers done during those past 7 weeks? Lackey, Santana, and Weaver have made 10 starts each:

JL: 5-3, 2.57 ERA, 57/19 K/BB, 73.2 IP
ES: 6-2, 4.31 ERA, 50/22 K/BB, 62.2 IP
JW: 4-2, 4.95 ERA, 50/21 K/BB, 60.0 IP

Meanwhile, Joe Saunders was stinking up the joint, then went on the disabled list, took some cortisone shots, and has won all three starts since coming back, giving up 4 ER in 17.1 IP.

Put those all together, and what do you get? Over 42 starts (everyone except Saunders from mid-July on; Saunders in his last three), that's 269 innings pitched (6 and 1/3 per start), 218 strikeouts, 87 walks, a 22-10 record, and a 3.78 ERA. And over their last 11 starts, none of these guys have given up more than 2 earned runs, posting a combined 1.51 ERA.

Who knew that there would ever be a time this year that we could feel almost good about the rotation?

Poll
If the playoffs started today, who would you drop from the rotation?
Kazmir
9 votes
Saunders
94 votes
Santana
193 votes
Weaver
7 votes
Lackey
5 votes
Nobody! BECAUSE I AM A CRAZY
35 votes

343 votes | Poll has closed

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Lackey is a lock to make the rotation. Kazmir is close behind. Although I would put Weaver and Santana ahead of Saunders, it probably will come down to the hot hand in the final 5 or so starts.

by Brody on Sep 7, 2009 9:05 AM PDT reply actions  

If Kazmir pitches like he did last game

he and Lackey are locks. They both have world series experience too, no brainer. The other three, well they will have to fight for it. I think if we play Boston in the first round the rotation goes:

Home:
1. Lackey
2.Weaver

Away:
1. Kazmir
2. Lackey

Kazmir has East road experience and I would feel comfortable with him at Boston than Weaver.

First we had a Salmon and now we have a Trout, let's see the same results.

by angelskid2210 on Sep 7, 2009 9:12 AM PDT reply actions  

This depends on whether it is a short series or not

Last year, the team with home field advantage (us) got to choose whether to have the extra off day. Using three starters, as you suggest, only works with the extra off day.

by Brody on Sep 7, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well if Soth gets the pick

I assume he will do the same as he did last year. And in that case the rotation would be set. If he does not take the extra day off then if Santana keeps throwin the way he has been I’ll take him for a game at Boston.

First we had a Salmon and now we have a Trout, let's see the same results.

by angelskid2210 on Sep 7, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would say Saunders...

The Red Sox would feast on all the runners on base Saunders allows.

My opinion:
1. Lackey
2. Kazmir
3. Weaver
Spot starter: Santana
Stricly bullpen: Saunders.

by matt92130 on Sep 7, 2009 9:41 AM PDT reply actions  

History

Saunders sports a career record of 4-1, with a 3.25 ERA against Boston. If he’s healthy, I absolutely want him to pitch against the Red Sox.

by jjackflash on Sep 7, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

and with the risk of Bad Santana showing up against the Red Sox, i’m going with The Colonel all the way.

Ervin vs. Sawx – 1-2, 5.67 ERA
Ervin at Fenway – 0-2, 7.53 ERA

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Sep 7, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

+2

Like howiestheman said. Good Santana is great, but bad Santana is unwatchable.

This team is our extended family, That's why we love them no matter what the record, no matter what the score.

by halofan4life on Sep 8, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I picked Saunders even though he's one of my favorite Angels.

He’s been too inconsistent, but I’m optimistic about his performance since his return from the DL.

Hopefully the great pitching continues and the hot hitting returns in time for some playoff domination.

by WiHaloFan on Sep 7, 2009 9:41 AM PDT reply actions  

I said Santana....

because out of the pen…..he’d be filthy.

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 7, 2009 2:26 PM PDT reply actions  

agreed

Angels 2009 WS Champs

by dan73962 on Sep 8, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I said Santana

but Saunders is a close 2nd. Let’s wait and see who’s hot in their last few starts. It’s a nice problem to have.

One thing, how does having 2 lefties in our rotation affect things? Would it be to our advantage to go R-L-R-L in the playoffs to possibly force the opposition to keep changing their lineup? Don’t know if that actually has any merit.

Of course, this is all assuming we make the playoffs. Let’s not get the cart before the horse here. We’ve still got 7 head to head with TX, gently nestled betwixt the Sux and the Spanks.

This season is my best chance to get called out of the stands to pitch.

by Rally Manatee on Sep 7, 2009 11:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Santana

For all the reasons above…. and then some.

The Big Red Machine V.2 is coming this Fall 2009. Go Halos!

by Slyintine on Sep 8, 2009 1:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Saunders is the worse pitcher

Santana has much better stuff. If he’s on, he’s great, if he’s off, you’re no worse off than if Saunders is having an off day. Saunders will always be at the mercy of balls in play since he doesn’t strike many out.

And though I like Santana’s stuff coming out of the pen, Saunders gives you another possible situational lefty.

I feel the need, the need...for speed!

by Gorbachav5 on Sep 8, 2009 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I would say Saunders

but my one caveat would be that the Yankees are SICK against righties in Yankee Stadium.

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

by Moondoggy on Sep 8, 2009 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

This is a good point

It would matter more if the Yankees were likely to be our first round opponent. As it turns out, however, unless we are the wild card and Texas is the division winner, we would not play the Yankees until the ALCS.

by Brody on Sep 8, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

true

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

by Moondoggy on Sep 8, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lackey???

Who on this site voted to drop Lackey from our postseason rotation? I want to know so that I can avoid responding to anything they write ever again.

by Brody on Sep 10, 2009 1:43 PM PDT reply actions  

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