Tony Reagins Off-Season Report Card
I think at this point the Ninja is probably done making moves barring some crazy trade. We've managed to address all the offseason goals by trading GMJ, getting a starter, a reliever, and at least one bat to replace any departing players.
I've broken down the moves made below and how the roster has changed position by position from last season.
- Designated Hitter: Hideki Matsui (6.5 million) vs. Vladimir Guerrero (6.5 million)
- Starting Pitcher: John Lackey (83 Million) vs. Joel Pineiro (16 Million)
- Relief Pitcher: Darren Oliver (3.5-6.5 Million) vs. Fernando Rodney and Brian Stokes (32.5 Million)
- Third Base: Chone Figgins (45 Million) vs. Brandon Wood (1-3 Million)
- Right Field: Bobby Abreu (5 Million) vs. Bobby Abreu (18 Million)
Had Reagins not replaced last years roster with more cost effective alternatives the budget could have ballooned, or we would not have been able to replace all the roster holes.
Matsui for Guerrero is basically a wash. I think Matsui might have more left in the tank but it's impossible to tell
if Guerrero can hit since Vlad has the higher ceiling. Matsui arguably is a more flexible pick since he may be able
to servicably play the OF a couple days a week but even that is a stretch. I don't hate the Matsui signing but right now without a medical report in front of me I can't say it's an improvement over Guerrero. We'll have to see if either player goes on the DL this season and if they do, Reagins could look either dumber or smarter based on results.
Grade: C
Pineiro for Lackey. Lackey is probably the better pitcher, but he's going to cost almost twice as much per season for 3 additional seasons beyond Pineiro's contract. The financial investment is considerable and it's why I consider the Pineiro signing the better move, even if we're getting a slightly lesser pitcher. Ironically Pineiro's numbers were actually better last year although he was in a weaker league. They are the same age and Pineiro was also healthier last season. I think this is going to look like a much smarter move 2 years from now when Pineiro is off the books after putting up respectable numbers and Lackey is still tying up Boston's payroll through 2014.
Grade: B+
Rodney and Stokes for Oliver. Overall these moves improve the bullpen, although at a much greater cost since
Stokes' contract is tethered to GMJ and Rodney was probably overpaid. Oliver is statistically the best pitcher, although Rodney has a bigger upside. Stokes is an improvement over the roster slot he replaced, OF #5. The bullpen was a weakness last season and these moves make an effort to improve it, but at a substantial cost. Reagins filled the needs here but he is awarded no value points for his efforts.
Grade: C-
Wood for Figgins. Figgins is almost guaranteed to have a better season next year than Wood, and he may even be better for the next 2-3 seasons. That said he probably won't be better for the next 5 and I'm almost positive he won't be 35+ million dollars better. If Wood is a quick learner this move was a very good one. If he's a flop he'll need to be replaced with another FA signing down the line. Izturis is a stop-gap. Either way, it's unlikely Figgins puts up 100+ runs a season for the next 5 so I like this move long term despite being cautious about it for the next two seasons.
Grade: B-
Abreu for Abreu. 9 Million dollar Abreu isn't as good of a value as 5 Million dollar Abreu but that just turns an A
signing into a B+ signing.
Grade: B+
Reagins didn't make any exceptional moves this offseaon but he made some good moves, some average moves and didn't make any bad moves. He also kept the budget in tact despite facing 8 players getting arbitration raises. The payroll is almost identical to last season and more importantly doesn't continue to tie up money in players beyond 2011. The money saved now is hopefully money that may be invested in FA classes later.
Final GPA: 2.6 (B-)
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Then there's the F
for not landing Doc Haliday…
But we won’t count that on his report card as everyone in the class but the cute chick in the front row from Philly failed that test…
Community reference.
+1
1 line siggy line because I was asked nicely. Go Angels! helpfindscottajob@gmail.com
you ae idiotic
we di NOT have the prospects to get Halladay. Get over it. You sound like a spoiled Yankee fan. I am not docking youpoints for all the chicks you did not lay becasue obviously it was impossible, you did not have what it takes.
by Rev Halofan on Jan 22, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
hilarious
"Precious in the sight of the Lord, is the death of His Saints." - Psalm 116:15 Rest In Peace, Nick.
I'm no reagins fan.
but this is stupid.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Jan 22, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
YEAH WTF WHY DIDNT THE JAYS TAKE OUR 500 PESOS
AND TOOK THE PHILLIES 500 DOLLARS INSTEAD!?!?!?
WHAT THE FUCK!??!?!?
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
or THE A PLUS for not gutting our entire farm system
Let's make it "another halo victory" for Rory...
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jan 23, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Lackey for Piniero + Kasmir
Don’t you have to include pre-emptive moves? Kasmir was just as much about winning last year as it was protection for not signing Lackey.
Great point. I wonder if this has been mentioned before.
Next to the Torii Hunter signing, getting Kaz was the best thing Reagins has done and certainly the shrewdest.
Tape an aspirin on it
Kazmir was a nice signing...
but I’m grading the off-season not last season.
True, but I think the FO knew...
That Kazmir was also insurance against Lackey leaving as much as he was supposed to bring order to our rotation last year when they got him.
"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter / Part-Time Nemesis of the HH Reply Function
by Commander_Nate on Jan 23, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
It's a joke, dude
Tell me you’re not a little bummed we couldn’t pick up arguably the best pitcher in baseball
it cuts like a knife
but it feels so right.
Driven into right-center field, Erstad says he has it...the Angels, world champions!
matsui for guerrero is a no brainer
walks and patience age well. free swinging does not. vlad is an easy out who GIDPs too much by overswinging. matsui makes pitchers work like abreu.
RIP Nick Adenhart
Matsui doesn't exactly have the best knees either
for your and his sake, I hope Matsui holds up in Anaheim. As a Yankee, he was awesome, and will be missed.
by FloridaownsFSU on Jan 22, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
I like Matsui better too...
but it’s impossible for me to really grade any better without knowing who is injured more.
If Vlad is still hurt and Matsui fully recovered then Tony is a genius. If Vlad comes back with a .900 OPS and Matsui still has bad knees he looks like a fool.
I have a feeling he was rightfully concerned about Vlad’s health and that’s why he signed Matsui in the first place.
I'd take Vlad over Matsui any year of their careers.
Vlad is ENTERTAINING. I follow baseball because it entertains me. When Vlad bats, I stop what I am doing and watch, or listen closer (radio). There are precius few players who elicit that response from me. Matsui isn’t one of them. I get the marketing aspect, but for me I don’t give a shit. Vlad can never be replaced, especially by someone who is , as this post states, ‘a wash’.
by Wally's World on Jan 23, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
lets face it the ninja is really making a bruce lee kinda 2010 for the angels
all hes moves look pretty good from all the way back here soo i think wood is gonna be the next k mo and k mo is going to be the next pujols maybe just maybe and i think kazmir is a better ace than lackey when hes in good shape
B
•Designated Hitter: Matsui vs. Guerrero – C, No improvement
•Starting Pitcher: Lackey vs. Pineiro (& Kazmir) – B, The 5 man is slightly improved
•Relief Pitcher: Oliver vs. Rodney and Stokes B+, I predict Oliver retires at the All Star break
•Third Base: Figgins vs. Wood – B, Inevitable transition, we need those dollars to improve elsewhere
•Right Field: Abreu (5M) vs. Abreu (18M), B+, He earned the renewal and makes those around him better. Plus, the deal increases our chances of making him our hitting coach one day.
Touch'em all
Matsui is an upgrade, all things considered.
I think Vlad’s at the end of his road, and while Matsui certainly isn’t in his prime anymore, he probably offers a little more than Vlad does, these days.
I tend to agree with the rest of what you say. If the Angels don’t win the division in 2010, I doubt it will be because they suffered vast regression from ‘09 to 2010. It’ll be because the Rangers and Mariners continued to improve.
by FloridaownsFSU on Jan 22, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
is not all about signings and trades...
the teams looks way better now with probably the same players everyone is healthy coming from a ALCS defeat and pretty hungry…. plus kazmir is a way better pitcher than lackey way better
If you actually look
At what Lackey and Vlad contributed last year, 11-8, 3.89 ERA from Big John and .295 with 15 home runs from Vlad, It seems very likely that Matsui and Kazmir and / or Pineiro will give us a significant improvement in both home runs and wins respectively. Then the fact that Kaz/Pineiro and Matsui combined cost less then Lackey would alone over the length of their contracts, I call this an A
Man is troubled not by events, but by the meaning he gives them........
Epictetus
I wonder
If Omar found a throwing star wrapped up in a Del Taco wrapper on his desk this morning…..
Man is troubled not by events, but by the meaning he gives them........
Epictetus
it was wrapped in 21.5million dollars
I think he might be getting the better end of the deal..
by shiftyeyedgoat on Jan 22, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, he's paying US 2 million that we wouldn't have had otherwise.
It’s more like he saw the throwing star then found 2M missing from his wallet.
~Till the Halo burns out...
by Zu Long on Jan 22, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
which covers the contracts of Stokes and the cash we would have gotten for releasing GMJ
So net, we saved $400,000 over the next two years- or a single year of a minor league call up- to get rid of a very average OF, and get a fairly average reliever. HURRAY, how freaking ninja can you get!! They could have just made the nachos 11 dollars instead of 10 and come out ahead.
by Balls and Strikes on Jan 23, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
You sir are an optimist
And I love it
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces
Not really sure you can add GMJs salary as part of the bullpens cost
Ya, we covered a LARGE part of his contract in exchange for Stokes. But we were on the hook for that money anyways. We actually save 2M and gain a serviceable reliever.
I say that makes the deal better, not worse.
Agreed
That analysis is moronic. Stokes is basically free. We either pay GMJ to provide negative value to the Angels, or we pay him to do nothing for the Angels, plus get bullpen help. Stokes, in my opinion, is completely free. The analysis would be between what we got from the Mets and what we could have gotten from anyone else, which looks like pretty much nothing.
Agreed sorta....
but the money is still on the roster and GMJ isn’t anymore so I’m counting it.
Reagins would have gotten a higher grade if he could have convinced the Mets to eat more of GMJ’s salary.
I gave him the minus more because I thought he overpaid for Rodney not because of Stokes.
It Also Opens a Roster Spot for Evans or Wilson
Remember, Evans and Wilson are out of options. So, by dumping GMJ, we can save at least one of those others from being picked up for free by another team.
Nope, it doesnt
That roster spot is stokes’ now, so no free roster spot unless we release stokes (hes outta options from what I understand).
by Balls and Strikes on Jan 23, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
But they can move down Bulger
There are other relievers with options who can now be sent down to make room for Evans or Wilson.
On Paper
the ninja’s moves this off-season are an F.
But it don’t mean shit. What will matter is what happens on the diamond this upcoming season. There are a boatload of unanswered questions. What we signed vs. what we had looks like 2 steps backwards.
It is going to be very weird this coming season not seeing big John, Vlad, and Figgy.
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
by Dono Romantico on Jan 22, 2010 9:36 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I can't understand how as an educated fan...
you would completely disregard payroll when making these assessments.
Obviously if money was no object ever the off-season could have gone better but ignoring the value aspects of these moves is completely unrealistic.
Signing Figgns and Lackey to long contracts now when you have better value options in the future can cripple the organization for years to come and turn us into the New York Mets.
Don’t you understand that?
well, it depends on how you are grading the ninja.
if in your case, all he is doing is cutting salary, then give him an A.
if you are grading him on how he replaced what we had, then I give him an F.
According to your logic, the ninja could not have signed anyone except who he already did because of the “value aspects” of the players available.
Since there are numerous players available this off-season their values can all be debated as to their projected return on investment.
Let’s talk after the end of the season. I hope you are right and the Angels win the division.
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
by Dono Romantico on Jan 23, 2010 8:07 AM PST up reply actions
Signing Figgins would in no way have 'crippled' us.
Figgins is in the prime of his career. Let’s say for your arguments sake that he has 2 good years, then the last 2 he is hurt/ and or sucks (he signed a 4 year deal). Ok. We get two more years of a premium leadoff hitter/3B man. Now, for the last 2 years, he gets paid 18-20 million. Now please tell me how this ‘cripples’ us considering that we had FIVE years of GMJ, only 1 of which he was decent/good (the first). Now we blew 40 million on him, and we just gave him away and ate about 20 million, of which we get absolutely nothing.
Did that contract ‘cripple’ us? Well we all know how we have done the last three years. I’d say no, it didn’t. The difference of course is that Figgy actually earned and deserves his contract. And he will have value. GMJ? not so much.
I don’t know about Lackey. His contract is over twice as big. Letting him go may turn out to be a wise decision (maybe not).
by Wally's World on Jan 23, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
GMJ's contract very well may have...
maybe if GMJ’s contract isn’t on the books we re-sign Figgins with that money.
Even so re-signing Figgins means we probably don’t sign Pineiro and then we have an unproven 5th starter and no rotation depth.
Palmer went 11-2 last season. Plus that with the continued development of our young pitchers,
and it is likely we could have the same production at a fraction of the cost, which would easily allow the team to retain Figgins.
If Pinerio is truly to be our 5th starter, don’t you think 16 million is a bit much? I see this as far more likely to ‘cripple’ us than Figgins. He has one good season (in the National League) in his whole career!
by Wally's World on Jan 24, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
Even if we contend that Palmer is as good as Pineiro..
which he isn’t, moving him to the rotation simultaneously hurts our bullpen which was our biggest weakness last year.
Pineiro statistically was 5 times the pitcher of Palmer last year using WAR. Even a “bad” Pineiro is statistically just as good as Palmer and that’s only comparing him to Palmers only MLB season.
If you’re remotely concerned about replacing Figgins with Wood then you should be downright terrified of replacing Lackey with Palmer.
The Ninja gets an A
You cant hold Arte’s budget restrictions against Reagans. He had little choice but to let Figgy and Lackey walk. Lackey was over rated any way. He managed to fill every hole with qualified players and still keep the payroll at Arte’s limit for this year and with the necessary flexibility to keep our arbitration players for the next few years. If one believes the payroll should be at 150 million, then blame the Boss. The Ninja can only spend what he is given.
Man is troubled not by events, but by the meaning he gives them........
Epictetus
by ArchAngel_7 on Jan 22, 2010 10:22 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Awesome. Finally. Somebody here on HH who knows what Arte's limit actually is.
(pulling up a chair, eager with anticipation…)
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
Is it so outlandish to deduce that since we didn't re-sign Lackey,
that Arte just plain didn’t have 85 million in one of his jeans pockets at the bottom of his laundry basket?
"Precious in the sight of the Lord, is the death of His Saints." - Psalm 116:15 Rest In Peace, Nick.
Not any more, nor any less, outlandish than deducing that Arte has decided to keep that 85 million for himself.
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
by Stirrups on Jan 23, 2010 5:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree.
No one knows for sure. But all the evidence points to the fact that Arte has some sort of ceiling, and it’s probably less than 20 million dollars above our current payroll.
But you’re right, it’s all speculation.
"Precious in the sight of the Lord, is the death of His Saints." - Psalm 116:15 Rest In Peace, Nick.
My speculation is that Arte is not a cheap ass, nor is he stupid.
But he certainly has decided to pass on this season’s top tier FA opportunities and rework his roster via his own youngters and whatever can be picked up among the leftovers. He won’t admit it, but he isn’t aiming for the WS this season. And that should put him in a very strong position to maintain his ability to financially compete for top talent over the subsequent 3 years.
So the payroll budget for 2010 is probably set lower than what it could be. Not because the money isn’t there. But so that the money always will be there.
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
I think we agree
"Precious in the sight of the Lord, is the death of His Saints." - Psalm 116:15 Rest In Peace, Nick.
Yeah.
I’m gonna Rec this.
Nick would be proud.
by halofan4life on Jan 23, 2010 12:40 AM PST up reply actions
Well ArchAngel...
Since this is true;
The Ninja can only spend what he is given.
Then maybe we should be grading Arte’s off-season performance as owner and not Tony’s as GM.
i think he did a good job
like archangel outlined, he took care of the team. we picked up a bit more depth in the pen, we picked up a fifth starter that is actually good enough to be in a Major League rotation, and we took out a slow contact DH for a slow power DH. wood finally gets his shot and someone else can overpay for figgins, who is a very good player but has to start regressing this year or next and, to be honest, really tried to kill us this postseason with his absent bat.
kasmir + pineiro > lackey for sure.
i think the angels are the third-best team in the AL as it stands, but we’re a real threat.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart - Always an Angel
C+ to B- looks about right
I still think the Matsui move was nothing more than a publicity stunt sham. There has got to be a bat somewhere that has a batter with knees left on him. That being said, I think one of his very good moves was the GMJ for Stokes trade, and not because of the player value of Stokes, but because of the message it sends to the future free agents in the league that we may be courting. If your not happy with your situation or playing time with the Angels, they will try and trade you to a situation you will be happy with without dragging your name through the mud and hurting your rep. GMJ handled himself with class even though his production was way off, and the Angels helped him into a new situation where he gats a chance to play everyday while eating a huge chunk of his contract. MLB players will be watching this move and liking what they see, they see a team treating a player under contract with respect and dignity. It just may help get us a few future free agents if the money is close to the same between a few teams.
One of the most well-rounded pitching staffs in the league...
Without getting into UZR’s and groundball ratios…lets just step back and look at some simple things….
1. All of our FIVE starters have the potential to win 15 games and have proven this by doing it before.
2. Do you find a younger staff out there with as much of a positive track record? How many teams have only ONE pitcher over 30 and still have a staff that includes 3 all-stars and four 15+ game winners? This staff is young as hell and probably will only get better.
3. Think about big competitors…They rely on two or three pitchers and fill in the rest with question marks and fingers-crossed. Sure, it worked for the Skanks last year and hell, it worked for us in 2002. That being said, I think we have a lot less question marks than the M’s. Imagine if Felix or Lee went down…who do they rely on? What if Beckett, Lester or Lackey goes down…the Sux are right back to where they started the 2009 off-season. It would take at least two Angels starters to go down at the same time before we got into “Oh Shit” territory and even then, as proven last year, we still can pull through….
4. SOS is a badass and will fill in if Pinata or one of the others goes down.
Let's make it "another halo victory" for Rory...
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jan 23, 2010 10:57 AM PST reply actions
in regards to # 1
Kaz hasnt won 15 games but damn if he couldnt….
Let's make it "another halo victory" for Rory...
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jan 23, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
He gets and A but....
Considering that Arte is generous but likes to stay on budget I think the Ninja did a good job. I think the best move was when the ninja sneaked past Boras and maneuvered a 4 mil contract for Weaver. Now my grade has a lot to do with the fact that we are hopeful for a big off season next year and the ninja didn’t tie all of our money up.
So he gets an A but if we have a similar off season next year I will have to correct his grade and slap a big fat F next to it.
Ninja don’t let us down and go Morales 2.0
He get's an A?
Wow, you sure have a lot of faith in his moves eh?
by Wally's World on Jan 23, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
well the reason stated is for protecting our future and keeping us in the game for the next off season
Sure I was pissed about not landing Halladay but the Ninja couldn’t control the fact that he wanted to play on the east coast. It would have been a worse move to trade a ton for a one year rental. Some times the best move is the one not made. And Lackey was not worth the money. So who was left? Considering the weak FA class this off season. I consider him to have done great. Now this doesn’t make me a believer that these moves have made us favorites to win it all but they sure have kept us in a position to get a top notch FA or two next year and then have a great edge over everyone in the west again.
I'm still scared of Wood
That move is going to blow up. I see him as a AAAA player. But, I hope I’m wrong.
OK, I'm finally over losing Tex. Thanks Kendry.
I give him a "B"
He made one mistake – not offering Oliver arbitration. Othewrwise, he’d get an “A”
Everything else I’m OK with.
I’ll miss Vlad.
Lackey? Not so much.
And I’m all in favor of giving Wood 3B, it’s about time.
Why are we still calling him "Ninja"?
I thought he was renamed “The Turtle” right after Black Monday.
He has failed to do anything to maintain that title. Yes, getting rid of GMJ was a good move, Matthews was a cancer and that surgery should have been performed last-season. You can say nobody would eat the contract, but we are still paying a goodly portion as it is and we suffered with GMJ’s presence all last season. If Reagins were truly a “Ninj a” we would have made this happen.
Also, I hardly call signing Fernando Rodney, Matsui and Pineiro worth of being called “Ninja.”
I can’t believe so many people are giving this guy an “A.” I think a “C” at best or barely a passing grade. Saving Arte money doesn’t earn one an “A” in my book. Putting a highly competitive, Championship caliber team on the field in 2010 does. Reagins did not do that. To be fair however, he can only work within restrictions Arte has given him.
Still, he hasn’t been earning his previous moniker lately.
I'm not sure how the 2010 team is really any less competitive than 2009's
The only real question I see is the difference between Figgins at 3rd, and Wood/Izturis at 3rd.
We have 3 pitchers capable of doing what Lackey did or better.
Matsui should be just as good as Vlad, maybe better if he has better luck with his health.
And it seems our bullpen has improved.
You're already writing us off for the next season?
We were two games away from the WS. We didn’t really see a reduction in the competitiveness of our team; mainly just some lateral moves. Our organization has always been about player development and finding FA’s that may have gotten overlooked by others. We have never been about the big FA signing (notable exceptions of course).
I don’t see how this year’s team is any better or worse than last year’s. We’ll be favored in the division (which is more competitive than last year’s…I don’t see how that isn’t championship caliber, and how you can write this team off before the pitchers have even reported.
Figgy is the main point here....
1) Figgy: I see this as a major loss. I think time will prove me right on this one. Others have stated in this forum that you’re basically trading OBP and runs scored for SLG and RBI. I think the production of Figgy in 2010 is a much more bankable commodity than the so-called SLG and RBI from Wood. In fact, I think expecting big numbers from Wood is unrealistically optimistic. Is it possible: yes. Is it bankable, no. Let’s say Wood plays between 120-130 games next season, and he hits .270-.280 (highly dubious based on recent performance) with 20 HR and say 70-80 rbi,. If we compare that to a conservative number for Figgy, say, .290 with 90-100 runs scored,with probably an OBP in the .360-370 range (this of course would be assuming a drop-off from last years numbers) and Gold Glove caliber defenisve at 3B have you really helped yourself?
Also, remember, by moving Aybar up to leadoff we will in all likelihood significantly weaken the bottom of our order. Having good hitting at the bottom of the order has been a hallmark of the recently very good Scioscia teams, but that looks to change this year.
2) Lackey: Many people have mentioned Lackey’s recent injury issues as a reason not to re-sign him. But, remember, Kazmir hasn’t had a clean injury history himself. It is also true (at least through my observations) that Kazmir has lost velocity on his once very good fastball. Will he ever return to his form of 2007? Again, this is highly dubious since his ERA has gone up every year since 2007. And Kazmir has never won more than 13 games in a season.
But I think the real key when comparing Lackey to Kazmir and Pineiro is the post-season.
Since I think most Angel fans would measure success by post-season success (or lack thereof), I think it is fair to focus on relative performance in the post-season. Take a look:
Career Post Season ERA :
Lackey : 3.12 (78.0 IP)
Kazmir : 5.20 (36.0 IP)
Pineiro : 7.50 (6.0 IP)
What stands out here? Well, we can give Pineiro a break since his ugly 7.50 ERA is with a very small sample size of six innings pitched. But Kazmir can’t use that excuse. Lackey clearly superior here. Since Halo success is now measured in the post-season (not the regular season) I think you’d have to say we have clearly been weakened by the loss of Lackey. Coupled with failing to get Halladay, the loss of Lackey gives Reagins an “F” in my book for starting pitching in the off-season.
3) Bullpen: Wouldn’t we just have been better off paying Frankie instead of paying Fuentes AND Fernando Rodney???? I think our bullpen is much weaker now then it was two seasons ago in 2007. I think Reagins deserves at least some of the blame if not much of it. In short, what was once a team strength has now become a weakness. One which arguably cost us a birth in the WS in 2009.
4) Matsui vs. Vlad: Most folks call this a “wash.” I think that is probably fair. Of course, this ultimately will probably come down to who misses more games due to injury. I happen to believe that playing games in Texas will help Vlads numbers. I would not be surprised to see Vladdy put up 25 HR and 85-90 RBI. I do think his AVG. will drop and probably Matsui beats him in OBP’ but I think Vlad ’s power numbers will be better. Admittedly, only time will tell on this move.
5) GMJ: I think this was a good move. But again, as I stated in comment above it was WAY too late. Matthews should have been dumped long ago, even if it cost the Halos/Arte even more money. Scioscia clubs have always had good team chemistry and keeping GMJ around so long went against club philosophy.
As far as Figgins goes, you may have a point if Wood is the starting 3B.
If Izturis ends up getting that job, I think he’ll be a good deal closer to putting up numbers comparable to Figgins. And if Izturis ends up getting the job, he would likely lead off.
As far as Kazmir, he posted a 2.01 ERA in September of this year,which is better than any month in 2007, and a 1.73 ERA for his time here. . That could indicate he was having some issues this season with Tampa Bay, that he figured out and fixed in Anaheim. Also he’s apparently taken on a pretty intense training routine that’s supposed to make him more durable and he’s working on his slider with Butcher. I would say since he’s put up 3 seasons of mid 3’s ERA and one of higher 3’s(3.77) the odds are that 2009 was an off year for him, and a spring with Butcher certainly won’t hurt.
As far as postseason goes, Kazmir has had less than half the postseason time Lackey has, so I think it’s hard to say that Lackey is without a doubt the better postseason pitcher.
And failing to get Halladay? Really? Was Reagins supposed to hold a gun to Toronto’s GM’s head, and then move Spring Training to Florida?
As far as the Bullpen goes, yes Frankie would probably be better than Fuentes and Rodney, but if I recall correctly didn’t Frankie’s agent start blowing off the Angels at some point during that offseason? Also I don’t think most people expected that Fuentes would have dropped this much going from Colorado to Anaheim. And Frankie didn’t do all that great in 2009 either.
I agree with you on the last two points though.
Seriously, I give T.R. a B+/A-
He really worked his butt off and he certainly deserves an A for effort. Only time will tell how well the moves pan out, of course. If Pineiro’s new “one-seamer” works as well this year as it did last, and if Godzilla mashes the way I know he can (barring injuries), he gets the A. I definitely don’t agree that Matsui for Vladdy is “a wash.” I love Vladdy but he is not the same hitter he was at all, and was rarely the clutch power hitter we needed and that’s one factor Matsui definitely brings to the table. I don’t stats—sorry—but I’ve watched and listened to a lot of baseball and I can’t remember how many times Vlad just couldn’t deliver in the final 2 innings for us, while Hideki has been far more successful in late inning and bifg game clutchness-the 6 ribbies in the final WS game against the Phillies was no abberration, but symbolic of his baseball career.
You are right about Halliday, of course; we were going to give away many of our young promising players but the Jays liked the Phillies package better. So I have to give the Phillies and the Mariners’ GM’s the ’A’s’ for acquiring Doc and Lee, respectively. Or perhaps they get A+’s and Reagins gets the A/A-. Like many of us, I felt that a pitcher of Halliday’s caliber was the missing ingrediant o take us to the promised land (see Sabathia, Hershieser, Beckett, Big Unit, Koufax, etc.) But, it’s true, Reagins busted his ass to try and broker the deal and it just wasn’t in the cards.
(BTW, did you ever wish you could take back an ill-advised email, texting, or posting (like on this site)? I hate it when that happens…)
live and learn my friend lol.
BTW, did you ever wish you could take back an ill-advised email, texting, or posting (like on this site? I hate it when that happens…
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 24, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
I think it’s foolish to grade anyone on the offseason until at least the All-Star break. Sure, hindsight is 20/20 but that is the whole point ;)
And since the All-Star break is in Anaheim this year, you know every media outlet will be dissecting things if the season doesn’t play out.
Might be a LONG summer :)
P.S. I give him a C, mostly in comparison to what Mr. Z has done (clearly the best in the league). If not for Mr Z. and his new 5-year plan, it would be easier to swallow getting the B and C level talent we did.
I give Reagins an A
He maintains about the same payroll for a team that lost money last year, he acquires two quality starters during the last six months, tries to get Halladay who wasn’t going to a West Coast team, doesn’t decimate the farm system, offers fair contract offers to Lackey and Figgins, the team can hold the line on ticket prices in tough economic times, and the Angels are still the team to beat in the West.
Could anyone else do better than that?
by California Cajun on Jan 25, 2010 11:59 AM PST reply actions
Biggs program, maybe newspapers
Jeff Biggs program reported it. He mentioned corporate sponsors were scaling back, so it was that and not necessarily the ticket sales to individuals (which were down as well) that caused this. I may have read about it either in the OC Register or LA Times, but don’t remember.
It’s something I believe based on the economy, the ticket discounts, and the ticket giveaways on the Biggs program. A caller asked why the Angels didn’t continue a certain promotion (which I don’t remember) and he said that UPS (“What can Brown do for you?”) pulled their sponsorship.
A season ticket holder posted on the MLB Angels board that he often saw the ticket that costs him $20 a game go for $5 on promotions. If that’s indicative of what it takes to maintain 3 million attendance despite fielding an excellent team, something’s got to give. And you probably can’t continue that if you want to keep your season ticket base, so yeah, I think the team is hurting economically and that makes Reagins job performance look even better.
by California Cajun on Jan 26, 2010 3:02 AM PST up reply actions
Ah.
So you are presuming that the team was close enough to being in the red in season’s past that the obvious economic downturn of which we are all aware, manifested by advertising changes and promotions and hearsay, has definitely resulted in the Halos losing money in 2009. Further, you presume that a loss of money in one season is a critical factor for a contemporary enterprise that might otherwise make profits all other years. And you presume that the primary way to protect financial health of such an enterprise in such a year is to cut back on the cost of products and services 3, 4 and 5 years from now.
I guess the fact that Arte is sitting on top of about $330 million in franchise equity alone means absolutely nothing to anybody.
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
Only grade that will matter is for the playoffs...
All this mental masterbation is fun I guess since nothing else to disect until the season starts, but in the end…all that will matter is the playoffs – assuming the team is strong enough to make it.
That is where the offseason potentially is a big F simply because of the loss of an ace and not picking up another.
Seattle, Boston, NY have their game plans covered…they just need to get there.
But I guess by the all-star break, you’ll know more about how the off season really went and since the ASG is in OC, you bet the media will be disecting it even more. Will be painful to listen to unless some of you are right :)
Actually we won't really know...
until about 4-5 years down the road how this off-season turned out.
Players are signed for multi-year deals in MLB. With that context you have to judge off-seasons over a long time-frame.
Getting 2nd in the West next year is fine if we have great success two, three and four years from now. What you don’t want to do is tie up your payroll, fall short again, and then put the team into financial ruin for the next half decade with bloated contracts and a gutted farm system.

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