Angels Face Some Tough Roster Decisions
With Matt Holliday signing with the Cardinals earlier this week, the last of the big-money free agents are now off the market, but there are still some holes to fill on this year's Angels. Below is the projected Angel roster if the season were to open today:
C - Jeff Mathis / Mike Napoli
1B - Kendry Morales
2B - Howie Kendrick
SS - Erick Aybar
3B - Brandon Wood / Maicer Izturis
OF - Juan Rivera / Torii Hunter / Bobby Abreu / Hideki Matsui / Gary Matthews Jr. / Reggie Willits
P - Ervin Santana / Jered Weaver / Joe Saunders / Scott Kazmir / Matt Palmer / Fernando Rodney / Jason Bulger / Kevin Jepsen / Scot Shields / Brian Fuentes
This major league roster consists of 23 players, leaving two roster spots open. To fill those 2 spots, the Angels are unlikely to sign any other free agents as they already have some tough decisions to make regarding players who are out of options. Outfielder Terry Evans, catchers Bobby Wilson and Ryan Budde, and pitchers Rich Thompson and Dustin Moseley must remain on the Angels major league roster or else be exposed to waivers in order to be sent down. With the exception of Moseley, who probably won't be ready for spring training due to injury and could open the season on the disabled list, none of the remaining five players would likely clear waivers. (Note: yeah, okay...Moseley was non-tendered this off season and is no longer with the team)
If the Angels are able to unload Matthews' contract, Evans would most likely open the season as the Angels 5th outfielder as he can play all three outfield positions. However the toughest question to answer is what to do with Bobby Wilson. Wilson, who turns 27 just before opening day 2010 (a week younger than Jeff Mathis), has nothing left to prove in the minors and could ably replace Mathis if the Angels are able to swing a deal that includes the arbitration-eligible catcher.
If the Angels decide to carry eleven pitchers, Rich Thompson would probably start the season in Anaheim...maybe. Of the players who are out of options, Thompson would probably be the easiest to replace and to be let go. Yet Thompson has one thing going for him the others don't; age. Thompson will turn 25 during the 2010 season while the next youngest of the group is Wilson at 27. The remaining player's ages are Moseley (28), Evans (28), and Budde (31). All of these players are too old to be considered prospects and should be thought of as nothing more than injury replacement-type players making the organization's decision a bit easier if they decide to let them go.
What off season article would be complete without some sort of free agent talk? If the Angels decide that none of the above, out-of-option players are worth keeping, who's still available to fill the utility role? How about one these, completely off the radar guys (age in parenthesis):
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umm moseley was non-tendered with brown. all s offseason so far i have been sure that the following (wilson, and evans)
would be on the 25 man roster because they were out of options. however i didn’t know that thompson was also. does someone have a link to where this is stated?? now assuming that to be correct i could see them going with thompson over wilson if they dont want to carry 3 catchers but i pretty much think that evens is a lock.
i also dont think we go after any of the agents you mentioned above
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Moseley was non-tendered??
Geez, where was I? Thanks for the update.
Yeah, I wouldn’t recommend the Angels sign any of the guys I listed, unless something drastic changes with the roster. Just wanted to throw a few guys out there who no one was talking about.
yep he was, it will still be a tough decision with these others though. i dont think budde will be given serious consideration with
wison, evans and thompson in the mix for the two spots. i think these three are the only strong canadites. but i do recall something about sandoval being brought up as utility
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
I disagree about Evans being a lock.
If they keep him, the roster will have 6 outfielders and one backup infielder.
right you would have either wood or izturis. but if wilson comes up you also got a backup 1st basman there as well (remember him
playing some first at the end of the season?). i just think he is more of a lock than thompson or wilson. are you completely confident that willits makes the roster? he did go back and forth a lot last year and if in spring training evans shows more he could jump ahead of willits i think.
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
Really not so sure Reggie makes the squad...
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby
not sure if your agreeing or not but no i am not sure. he has had trouble up here because of playing time i think, for the most part.
also with him going back and forth so much the last year i think that the coaches are not sure about him either. so considering that i think that it is possible that Evans in spring training could impress enough to take his spot.
now also this depends on what they do with wilson and the other catchers, because if they are not put on the roster then both Reggie, Evans and Thompson could be on it with no problem
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
It's time
to cut ties with Willits. I don’t care if he’s spunky and can lay down a bunt and the crowd chants his name. He’s barely a major leaguer, and that roster spot is better served by any of the other candidates mentioned above, with the exception of Budde. He gone.
Evans looks like a natural to me. Smooth and rangy in the outfield, quick bat, good makeup.
And we need another starter. We’re one injury away from being in trouble. I agree with the post above, a 5th spot carousel of the kids would be dangerous. Bring back Garland. 4.00ish ERA, 12-15 wins, 200 innings. 1 year, 8mil with performance based option year. Wrap it up. We’ll take it.
also i think Evans can probably do all the things that Willits does, but has more power i think.
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
Plus he ran out there and caught my first pitch, so how horrible would it be for him to go now?!
Rest in peace, Rory. When I think of some of the greatest moments my Angels fandom, I hear your voice describing them. Thanks for everything you gave us.
No i got that i replied to AlanFalcon about his comment
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
Alan got to throw out a ceremonial first pitch. Evans was the "catcher" for it.
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oh that is very cool. Thanks for informing me i was wondering :)
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
I don't see any huge problems with that lineup.
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So what do you make of Sosh insisting several times on Mighty Mouse as next leadoff?
1. It was BS?
2. Way too early to take him seriously?
3. He just mentioned that as a move to suggest that Wood may not be the opening day starter?
4. Izturis may alternate with Wood at 3rd, HK at 2nd***, and occasionally spell Aybar, so that he can be the leadoff hitter most of the time/some of the time?
5. “Forgetabout it?”
i dont recall him insisting anything at all.
what i do remember is him saying that he would get a shot at third with wood in spring training which is the right thing i think. as far as lead off i think it will be aybar and izturis based on who is in the lineup.
i think wood wins 3rd base. and as you said in #4 izturis will take turns in those three spots but mostly 2nd and SS.
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
also i see izturis taking 3rd when morales needs a break and then wood playing 1st
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
Scioscia has seemed a bit manic/depressive in attempting to forecast his preferences.
For some players/positions, he’s incredibly loyal (playing Steve Finley when he was less than worthless, Jeff Weaver, keeping Vlad batting 4th last season, and so on).
At other times (not sure if this is the manic or depressive) he appears to key on a few factors;
1) Lefty/righty match-up.
2) Best match-up against particular pitchers.
3) Who is more currently more consistent defensively.
4) Who seems to need a rest.
5) Who has the hot bat.
So, I don’t think Izzy or Abreu or Erick (or Pettit ?)are a lock for lead-off. It just may depend on several other factors, known only to the mind of Scioscia.
no yea i agree no way we are getting figured out who is a lock we will get an idea of that in spring training i think. above
i was saying how i think he will be used if he doesn’t win the starting job anywhere (3rd). how it would likely pan out when morales needed a day off
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
7) Who picked up his tab at Bucca de Beppo the previous night
You left that one out, and you know it’s in there.
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by Commander_Nate on Jan 7, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
This is Soth territory
Your numbers are no good here.
Or what Rev said.
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by Commander_Nate on Jan 7, 2010 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
For some players/positions, he’s incredibly loyal (playing Steve Finley when he was less than worthless, Jeff Weaver, keeping Vlad batting 4th last season, and so on).
And sticking with Aybar.
It's Always Somethin'
Yes, this could go on and on.
How many time have we seen him roll Weber or Yan or Carrasco or Speier out to the mound when everybody knew what would follow? Scioscia has a hard-to-figure loyalty streak to some players.
I have no idea what the FO will do...
…but I’d hope they will sign one more decent, reliable SP…a Garland type pitcher.
My best guess is the FO will wait like they did last year (when they signed Abreu) to see how he market shakes out. I don’t want to go through a full season with Bell, SOS, and/or Palmer as the only backups in the event of injury or injuries.
Yeah, I don't think they're done making moves with the pitching staff.
I was just focusing on the offense in this post. There are quite a few decent pitching options still out there to either sign or trade for.
I would say one free agent left to sign in Chapman, but other than that, I think we're set.
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I wouldn't be opposed to that either
And depending what you believe, that seems like the most likely scenario right now.
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by Commander_Nate on Jan 7, 2010 7:18 PM PST up reply actions
GMJ will be released I think
Thus giving us 22 spots with Thompson, Evans, and Wilson making the club. I do have a feeling that Napoli or Mathis might be dealt this offseason though to give Wilson a shot.
there is no way he is released it is way to much money that would be suicide financially. he will be traded or go no where
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
We released Kevin Appier in 2003 while he was making approximately the same amount of money.
See also Edgardo Alphonso, who was making $7 million when we released him. Arte is not above cutting ties with people who aren’t producing.
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Yeah, but
whom could we bring up that would be appreciably better than GMJ? Not being argumentative here; this is a sincere question. What I’m thinking is that since he will be paid either way, it makes more sense to at least get something out of all that money—unless not having him would make us appreciably better. This was the case with Alfonso, and Appier was let go for insubordination.
Certainly GMJ is not producing nearly enough to justify his salary, but he did do a good job filling in for Torii when he was on the DL. It seems to me that as a bench player, independent of salary considerations, he’s not bad.
yea i dont see anyone we would bring up that is better so id think we would want to trade if anything but that is just me.
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
I'm a huge Chris Pettit fanboy, for reasons I can't really justify. Call it gut instinct, but I've liked him from
year one with us. I feel like he can offer us just about everything GMJ can at this point, with the added bonus that Chris Pettit may actually be a legit major league player waiting to happen as opposed to a one-time fluke who is paid to much and unhappy with his playing time.
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i love Pettit to but i think the main thin GMJ brings over him is power and better plate discipline (something Pettit will get with time
i just think he needs more time and we are best served with trading GMJ. it also should be easier to do so mid way through the season or at the end of this season.
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions
There's also the fact that it's not just his bat.
The advanced fielding stats tell us that he is an absolutely horrendous fielder. He’s not just holding back younger talent, he actually HURTS the Angels defense when he plays.
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huh i never looked at the advanced states for him in particular. i always just thought he was a pretty good fielder.
so how do his Defensive numbers compare to pettit’s?
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
Pettit doesn't really have enough time for his numbers to show.
GMJ was worth negative 14.5 runs last year according to fangraphs. In other words, Gary Matthews Jr is slightly worse to have in the field than Jeff Mathis is to have at the plate (Mathis was worth -13.4 runs at the plate last year).
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Basically? It would be very difficult for Pettit to be as bad as GMJ was.
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hmmm this is interesting i have never seen these numbers. i am sorta suprized by these numbers but not totally.
he really has struggled but still somehow produced most in the clutch. this make no sense but that is at least what i seemed to see. Im going to go look at what you linked i dont know if i have ever been to that site?
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
Fangraphs is useful as a reference, but as with so many things
some rely on it too much and confuse its spreadsheets of pretty numbers for reality. GMJ was indeed quite clutch at the plate with men in scoring position, and that fact should hold merit.
What matters, after all, is not what GMJ is LIKELY to have done were the season played a million times, but what ACTUALLY occurred. What actually occurred is that GMJ contributed to several clutch rallies and assisted the Angels in winning.
What will happen THIS year though, we can only guess at, and the odds of him being that clutch a second season in a row aren’t good.
Anywho, always take fangraphs and other saberstats with a grain of salt and a dose of common sense.
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yea i dont know that id use it. the only source for states i really use is baseballreferences.com
i know that it is good so i trust it. yea you can’t use it as your total argument lol.
i agree with you though about GMJ, now my concern is still money cause isn’t he do somwhere in the teens both of the next two years??
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
Yes. 11 or 12 million. It would be nice to trade him before that happens, but I think it's more
likely we’ll just end up eating his salary.
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im ok with eating some but not sure about eating all of it that is a big piece to swallow
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
it is weird how my sig. just randomly disappeared just a bit ago lol
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
Just about everyone on the planet knew it was a bad contract the moment we signed it.
Sometimes that’s how it goes. I’d rather not throw good money after bad by wasting the opportunity to develop young talent. We’re likely going to pay him the money either way, so at least play someone who could turn into to something in a year or so.
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yea i can understand that i guess im just thinking about it as the could it happen to.
and it could but i think it is very unlikely that it does.
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 11:42 PM PST up reply actions
im ok with eating some but not sure about eating all of it that is a big piece to swallow
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
yea i went and looked at the stat we are talking about and this is what i saw. if you go by position first off he is
in no way consistent. In 08 the only time he was positive was when playing CF (about +8) and in 09 playing RF was (about +9). but besides these two positions in those two years he was basically hurting us. so yea id agree after seeing this that although he has more experience so is more polished it may not be a huge jump in production to go to a prospect. now it wouldn’t be pettit though cause Evans def. comes up for OF before Pettit)
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 11:20 PM PST up reply actions
Why Evans over Pettit though? Pettit brings better contact, patience and the ability to hit for average.
Evans mostly brings only power. Further, Evans is 4 years older than Pettit IIRC. If we want a young guy to develop into an eventual everyday player, my bet is on Pettit over Evans.
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i understand what your saying and Evans only advantage over Pettit may be power as you say, however
one reason i believe it will be the case is Evans is out of options. If they were not going to have him on the roster would they not have non-tenured him along with Moseley and brown?? also they have brough him up a lot more making me believe they are going to give him a chance at full time first (Pettit just had his first at bats in the majors). also i dont know that Pettits ability is that much greater than Evans although as you said Petit is younger and will possible grow more.
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
i understand what your saying and Evans only advantage over Pettit may be power as you say, however
one reason i believe it will be the case is Evans is out of options. If they were not going to have him on the roster would they not have non-tenured him along with Moseley and brown?? also they have brough him up a lot more making me believe they are going to give him a chance at full time first (Pettit just had his first at bats in the majors). also i dont know that Pettits ability is that much greater than Evans although as you said Petit is younger and will possible grow more.
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions
It's not really that I would mind Evans (three years ago I argued we should give him or Willits a shot rather than sign GMJ), I just think smart money is on Pettit at this point.
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alright so your just taking Pettit over Evans because of your feeling about upside when it comes to them.
i think he could have more upside but right now would like to see what Evans can do first.
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 11:43 PM PST up reply actions
Check that. Evans is two and half years older.
Still, that’s a lot when you are talking about a players prime playing years.
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yea i knew the right number from looking when he came up earlier at the end of the season.
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions
Ok.
Keep Thompson, Wilson, and Sandoval on the MLB roster. Trade GMJ for Buca Di Beppo gift certificates or release him to free a spot. Seriously, Sandoval must make the roster. Izzy and Kendrick are too fragile, and Aybar plays a high stress position (how Cal Ripken made it every game for seasons is beyond comprehension).
As much as I like Terry Evans, like they told that Jewish carpenter, there is no room at this inn.
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ok yea sure trade GMJ. but like i said to the other guy there is no way he is released, use logic and you will see that. also
i dont see how izzy and kendrick are too fragile, and although i would like to se sandoval up in the majors i dont see it happening with evans, wilson, and Thompson out of options
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
The chances of him NOT being on the roster come April
Are about as good as the Colts beating the Chargers in the playoffs. It could happen, but not likely.
Izturis injuries: http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/641/Maicer_Izturis
Kendrick injuries: http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/709/Howie_Kendrick
Look on the right side of the page. They’ve both been injury prone, and neither have played more than 114 games in a season. Howie hasn’t gotten above 100 yet.
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Why did I write NOT
Fail. Too much whiskey.
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yes he was unlucky and was injured a bit but last year kendrick did good and missed no time or little with injury all season.
and also that is so not a good analoge because there is no bases for it (just cause they beat us twice in two very close games with us missing key players doesn’t make our chances slim now).
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
If I'm reading you correctly (remember, the whiskey)
I didn’t make a very good analogy because there is no basis for the Chargers beating the Colts…
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/lee_jenkins/01/04/Jenkins.Chargers/index.html
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like i said good luck believe what the media says if you think they know everything. half the time media doesn't know what
they are saying cause they dont watch all the games anyway. :)
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
Simply pointing out an article
that saved me some time explaining the recent history between the teams. The Colts are a very good team led by one of the best QBs of all time. Anything can happen.
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yes i know the history trust me, but thats the point i also know how and why we lost. and i know what is different about our team this year
but yes anything can happen we could lose
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dear HH (look i don't need to explain myself (writing wise) to all of you as i have with many here. if you absolutely can not understand what i am saying that is one thing but this is a blog and it isn't going to be A work every time especially when your typing a comment fast so get over it or don't read my posts
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
im just saying my comments are not going to be perfect especially when i type my comments fast
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dear HH (look i don't need to explain myself (writing wise) to all of you as i have with many here. if you absolutely can not understand what i am saying that is one thing but this is a blog and it isn't going to be A work every time especially when your typing a comment fast so get over it or don't read my posts
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
I'm saying we get one of Sheets, Chapman or Wang.
If we get one of those three we are then done. I think one of those three would be a good pickup and help shape up the rotation and again get us into the playoffs.
Let’s go Ninja! Get ’Er Done!
First we had a Salmon and now we have a Trout, let's see the same results.
If the Angels sign Chapman
Would he take a roster spot? Wouldn’t he be considered a minor league player?
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yes he would be a minor league player so wouldn't count on the 25 man roster
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
40 man roster, if anything.
Depends if he’s signed to a major or minor league contract. And I’m pretty sure he’ll get a major league contract, even if he doesn’t hit the majors until 2011 or so. HH geniuses, is this correct? GK, WI, Mr. Welch, Nate, Rev?
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Dunno
I think the 40 man is who they are able to call up from the minors whenever they want, but I’m not real sure on how that works and who they get to put on it. Somebody else will have to confirm that.
However, I do like that I’ve only been here a month and people are already asking me stuff!
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by Commander_Nate on Jan 7, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
Really?
Only a month? Seems like longer. You can say that you’ve been on two years, or two decades now, though.
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Well maybe a little longer
But it was sometime after the World Series that I joined here.
I post under this name on the Official Angels website as well so maybe you might have seen me there. I came here for less censorship and more evolved discussion.
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by Commander_Nate on Jan 7, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
Well I didn't mean this year for Chapman whoops, I was just implying the Angels aren't done yet.
But on that note I do think he could be a september call up depending on the maturity and growth. But immediate impact, probably not.
First we had a Salmon and now we have a Trout, let's see the same results.
by angelskid2210 on Jan 7, 2010 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
I'm all for signing Chapman...
but he’s not going to help us this year.
He’s a bonus signing, not a signing that fills any needs for 2010. I’d prefer Garland at this point. He’s a sure thing inning eater and lets us put Palmer in the pen. Someone like that is a perfect signing.
You might have a point. While I'm not as sure that Chapman won't be able to fill some type of role on the major
league team in 2010, a Garland would help provide stability in the case that Kazmir gets injured or Santana has another meltdown.
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I don't like the Garland idea.
I think Palmer can put up similar numbers to Garland and is a lot cheaper, but like you said he could be used just icase someone does have a meltdown.
First we had a Salmon and now we have a Trout, let's see the same results.
by angelskid2210 on Jan 7, 2010 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
Palmer could put up numbers better numbers as the long reliever though.
I admit he WILL be cheaper though. Maybe go get someone like Bedard and just assume some combination of Bedard/Palmer will be needed to get to the 7th every game. Between the two of them you would actually have a pretty good 7-8 inning pitcher.
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Am I one of the few who wouldn't mind seeing Wash back?
I agree Palmer would be best for long relief or spot starter
i dont think id mind him back. I also do agree that palmer is best fit for long relief where he did his best last year.
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 11:09 PM PST up reply actions
Hey! You had a capital "I" there!
Do you see it? As that one dude in Saturday Night Live used to say:
“That’s the ticket!”
:) awe thanks for the props lol.
Like i said ill try to do better
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sorry, I'm new here, but
is it sort of an understood thing that my brother AF above may dispense with capital letters, basic punctuation and grammar in everything that he writes? Sort of like, well, one guy can run with ta sort of reckless Hunter Thompson-meets-Faulkner style and the rest of us behave ourselves linguistically? I mean, I’m fine with that if you all are fine with that—it’s been your blog long before I even started reading it (4/09), but…well, I’d be glad to offer some some basic grammar rules if that would be helpful; that’s kind of what I have to do all the time anyway…
by Raaddad on Jan 7, 2010 7:50 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, well.
Typing is hard.
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look i really don't feel like explaining my self to you as i have to so many people. also i dont need to. you can read my comments and this is a blog
the writing doesn’t have to be A work all the time
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
You should
put that in your signature block.
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well if I tell you to shape up or ship out
are you going to give ME the same snotnosed-kid type of reply?
come on i think you can understand my point if not im sorry mabye we can talk one on one
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dear HH (look i don't need to explain myself (writing wise) to all of you as i have with many here. if you absolutely can not understand what i am saying that is one thing but this is a blog and it isn't going to be A work every time especially when your typing a comment fast so get over it or don't read my posts
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
We at Halos Heaven feel that anyone who posts here understands that
omitting proper grammar will cause readers to think poorly of your intelligence and quite possibly to make fun of you. If you are all right with that, who are we to stop you?
~Till the Halo burns out...
so it's not just that the "shift" button is broken?
ok i mean i’m cool with it it’s the dude’s style and i still think he knows his shit, eh? just lazy…?…dwelling in counter-culture expressive mode? wtf? hey this is kinda cool, i feel liberated…
oh that is so nice of a thing to do to a fellow fan :)
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dear HH (look i don't need to explain myself (writing wise) to all of you as i have with many here. if you absolutely can not understand what i am saying that is one thing but this is a blog and it isn't going to be A work every time especially when your typing a comment fast so get over it or don't read my posts
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
Alabama broke Colt McCoy right in half......like omg!
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no as my sig may hint to i type my comments fast so many times will not capitalize things. it is not on purpose and grammar has never
been my strong suite, if i make a fanpost some time you will notice it is much better than my comments because i can take more time.
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dear HH (look i don't need to explain myself (writing wise) to all of you as i have with many here. if you absolutely can not understand what i am saying that is one thing but this is a blog and it isn't going to be A work every time especially when your typing a comment fast so get over it or don't read my posts
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
maybe
it is time for you to grow up and write like a man.
by Rev Halofan on Jan 7, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
really?? insults are just as much a little kid thing when it comes to this and is not necessary
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dear HH (look i don't need to explain myself (writing wise) to all of you as i have with many here. if you absolutely can not understand what i am saying that is one thing but this is a blog and it isn't going to be A work every time especially when your typing a comment fast so get over it or don't read my posts
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
calm down dude
all i am asking you to do is notice that the community here has standards and that you could take a little time to man up for us.
or you can go back to the kids’ table.
look i have had a guy (nice guy too) come to me and point things out and i do try, i also post comments a little slower now
trying to make sure i spell everything right, i cant change it at a flip of the switch. english isn’t the easiest thing for me.
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dear HH (look i don't need to explain myself (writing wise) to all of you as i have with many here. if you absolutely can not understand what i am saying that is one thing but this is a blog and it isn't going to be A work every time especially when your typing a comment fast so get over it or don't read my posts
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
That's cool--good for you
And I agree that calming down overall is a good idea. “Slow ride…Take it easy”
na i type fast because so often the open threads are going so fast, and i dont always what what im writing.
the best i can do is to work on it but i cant change just like that
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dear HH (look i don't need to explain myself (writing wise) to all of you as i have with many here. if you absolutely can not understand what i am saying that is one thing but this is a blog and it isn't going to be A work every time especially when your typing a comment fast so get over it or don't read my posts
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
Boy are you going to be in trouble come Game Thread time...
Those go very quickly sometimes…
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby
im typing fast now to because im use to it so it will be no diffrent
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sorry, dude, but this must be done:
by shiftyeyedgoat on Jan 7, 2010 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
"I saw two kittens riding a goat." LOL
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I saw the same.
At a bar in Tijuana. Maybe it was a burro.
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I love spaghetti.
Yay!
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This is the exact opposite
of what i would imagine a rad dad would say.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
Oh there are much worse than AF, much worse.
Just wait until the season starts. You will see.
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dude is all over every post and is usually, really annoying.
ignore him.
Let's make it "another halo victory" for Rory...
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jan 7, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
well im sure not the one that goes around and attacks people. i try and add to conversations, im sorry my writing isn't perfect but
this isn’t an blog for english work
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dear HH (look i don't need to explain myself (writing wise) to all of you as i have with many here. if you absolutely can not understand what i am saying that is one thing but this is a blog and it isn't going to be A work every time especially when your typing a comment fast so get over it or don't read my posts
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
y su hermana, si me querre?
Oops, my bad. ;)
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by Commander_Nate on Jan 8, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
Damn, I think I left out an "i"
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by Commander_Nate on Jan 8, 2010 9:06 AM PST up reply actions
Giggity.
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by Commander_Nate on Jan 8, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
READ YOUR COMMENTS...
Poor grammar is one thing. Making absolutely no sense half the time is another. Oh and please ADD to the conversation instead of writing incoherent responses to almost EVERY SINGLE OTHER COMMENT…
Let's make it "another halo victory" for Rory...
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jan 7, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
oh and please be realistic and dont exaggerate so much. every comment on this thread for me is coherent
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dear HH (look i don't need to explain myself (writing wise) to all of you as i have with many here. if you absolutely can not understand what i am saying that is one thing but this is a blog and it isn't going to be A work every time especially when your typing a comment fast so get over it or don't read my posts
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
If I may stick my nose in here. . .
I think the thoughts behind your words are coherent and sensible, but, respectfully, it often takes considerable work to figure out what you’re saying, and I don’t always have the time and energy to do that.
If you want to make sure you get your thoughts across, you should at least try to use capitals at the start of sentences, periods at the end, and commas once in a while in the middle. This would also show respect for your fellow HHers, by not putting the burden on them to punctuate your posts for you.
like i said above or was it below lol, the best i can do is work on it. and that i will try to do but in the process it would
be appreciated not to be slammed for each comment i made :)
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe just do the quick once over before posting it?
See if it makes sense to you before you show it to the world…
Check yo-self fo’ you wreck yo-self.
by Balls and Strikes on Jan 7, 2010 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
nice line. thats what i have begun to do for spelling to make sure that part is good. again once in a while i forget.
but i get your point and ill try but it will take some time
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
On a totally unrelated topic - what kind of dog is that in your pic?
It looks cool. I’m considering getting a dog sometime in the next year-year and a half.
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by Commander_Nate on Jan 8, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions
That's Lucky, World's Wonder Dog.
His mother was a Husky; we don’t know who his father was, but the shape of Lucky’s head was unmistakably houndlike, and he had a fearsome hound’s bark. He was indeed a cool dog. If you’d like, you can see more pictures of him here.
That's a little harsh...
He sounds like a giant run-on sentence, sure, but I’ll give him core knowledge of baseball.
I say he’s responding well to fairly harsh criticism, so we might want to lighten up if he straightens up.
by shiftyeyedgoat on Jan 7, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
I dunno...
when reading it as one big huge one on sentence, it doesnt make any sense to me. Even when I do take the time to input the periods in my head, I’m not really seeing anything immediately interesting.
Not that I always or even half the time, add something worthwhile. However, I see this is as a on-going conversation your buds at the bar. I see ANGELSFAITH as the schizo who rolls in and takes over the conversation. Then everyone loses their train of thought and gets, naturally, annoyed.
Let's make it "another halo victory" for Rory...
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jan 7, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
and here I go omitting words left and right...
Where are my goddamn glasses??
Let's make it "another halo victory" for Rory...
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jan 7, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
Holy F'n S**t...
…ANGELSFAITH may be he new Hostility Abounds. Is it possible?
Is that Wild Will in in the persona of another?
Oh please…please…
Hostility Abounds
If I ever start a metal band, that would be the name.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
Yeah, good stuff.
I found it funny how he caught flack for leaving Dondo off the post season roster.
Related to miss cleo maybe?
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Jan 7, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
I just looked at that post
i crapped my pants laughing
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Jan 8, 2010 11:11 PM PST up reply actions
haha yea first im not promoting anything nor did i start anything with anyone. also i didn't make a fanpost lol
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 7, 2010 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
That was the funniest thing ever
What a baby
by Balls and Strikes on Jan 7, 2010 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
Go the the Official Angels site, there are far worse things there than FAITH...

^^^^SUCH AS THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Faith is a good guy and has good things to say. He holds it down for the Angels in a good way.
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by Commander_Nate on Jan 7, 2010 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
Haha, I wish.
Currently my walls are full. Between various Angel memorabilia and mememtos from the USMC, some flags, various signed and un-signed punk band posters, and my old electric guitar, there’s not much room left.
Of course, there’s always right by the front door in the living room…
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by Commander_Nate on Jan 8, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
And if you must know, this is what I imagine SirChris looks like...
He’s the regular Ranger troll on the Official Angels site.
He’s annoying, not very smart and we tried to get rid of him at first but he kept coming back because his own team didn’t like him. Now we’ve sort of resigned ourselves to the fact that he’s our pet for life.
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by Commander_Nate on Jan 8, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions
haha sadly so :(
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions
This needed to be adressed, thank you
i feel kind of bad, but at the same time I think a lot of people felt the same way about this.
NA 34
Budde is an easy let-go...
dude is horrible. I think WIlson and Thompson make the team. Evans, is okay but when you already have Reggie Willits and, yes, GMJjr, then why keep Evans?
Let's make it "another halo victory" for Rory...
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jan 7, 2010 8:18 PM PST reply actions
at least he made the cover of SI (Spring 2003)
bye bye Budde. i say it too, but he’s an organization-type and probably be back at SLC if no one else takes him.
AS LONG AS WE HAVE MIKE NAPOLI ON THE ROSTER EVERYTHING WILL BE JUST FINE!!
Don’t worry fan members.
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by 44FAN on Jan 7, 2010 8:23 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I second that.
Let's make it "another halo victory" for Rory...
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jan 7, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
Thompson & Wilson make the squad
We go with 11 pitchers, with a late F.A. pickup (Ben Sheets?) holding down the 5th rotation spot. Palmer makes the Opening Day team because some other pitcher gets hurt. Budde & Evans either get traded for a sack of cheeseburgers or cut. If the latter, they’ll immediately get picked up by AL West teams.
Bench is Mathis-Izturis-Wilson-Willits-Matthews, since no one in their right mind will take GMJ’s salary off our hands, and he is yet more valuable than Evans or Willits. When any infielder goes on the DL, Sandoval gets the call.
I agree with you on everything, but
who’s going to back up Morales? And God forbid, what happens if he gets hurt? The Angels are about depth, but at 1B the Angels appear to be lacking.
Reply fail
See below.
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Wood and Wilson
If Morales got hurt, Brandon would slide over, Izturis would play 3B, and Sandoval would backup the infield spots.
Sir Juan is also available
to fill in at 1B when needed im sure….unless he is already playing 2B
by Angel Aviator on Jan 8, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
Yea but he would probably be a last resort there. i think after Morales that it is Wood, then Wilson.
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
Almost agree
except why carry three catchers unless Naps gets to DH? Unless one or two of our outfielders goes down, Naps will only get into the game wearing his catching gear. Which still doesn’t resolve what to do with Wilson, who may be to valuable to simply cut, but isn’t good enough to take AB’s from Napoli. I wouldn’t be opposed to simply non-tendering Mathis, as it seems dumb to pay anything over the minimum for replacement-level production, but I think we all know that’s not going to happen.
Trust me, I don't WANT to carry three catchers; it's just I think that's what Sosh will do
Wilson’s outta options, Scioscia loves his catchers, & Napoli does DH work as soon as one of Matsui/Rivera/Abreu gets hurt.
He will probably move to AAA this year but i don't think he makes it to the majors this year.
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 8:00 PM PST up reply actions
I think he'll be a september callup if nothing else.
I’m just wondering if scioscia would take two catchers with the idea being that there’s always a few hanging around in AAA if he needs more.
~Till the Halo burns out...
Not ready to what? Fill in as a backup in the case that both Napoli and Mathis go down for the count?
I think he’s as good an option as either Budde or Wilson in that situation. And being out of options doesn’t mean we can’t send them down. I don’t think too many other teams are going to claim either of those guys waivers, given that they are the definition of third-string, and most teams don’t bother with a third catcher.
~Till the Halo burns out...
I have a feeling that we'll see
A few Angels trying on the 1B glove during the spring. Howie Kendrick has done it before, and could be moved over in a pinch. Brandon Wood, Bobby Wilson, and Juan Rivera each have a perfect fielding percentage at first (ok, they’ve played like 10 innings between the 3 of them).
Mike Napoli needs to start getting some work in at first. Might be a good career move for him. If there are a plethora of DH candidates and they carry 3 catchers, why not make Naps the C/1B/DH guy?
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Meant as reply to WiHaloFan
Misclicked the reply button, apparently. I’ll take my lashings now.
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Free Brandon Wood!!!!!!!!
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 8, 2010 9:13 AM PST reply actions
here is another article from ESPNLA on the free agent chapman
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/news/story?id=4806004
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yep i got it through, just not what i originally wanted. But hey i still think it is a good one i choice :)
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
wow, Bane talking about chapman in A ball...
That kinda surprises me. I thought they would start him off in at least AA.
by Balls and Strikes on Jan 8, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
Makes sense to me.
That way he’s somewhat close to the watchful eye of the big league club, and his support network (Kendry and pals?). Kendry started in Rancho, and he’s been a success story. Starting in AA – Arkansas seems to fit his initial pro ball talent level, but its location doesn’t seem ideal, at least at first. So, get his feet wet near the big club, have him get good innings in Rancho, and promote accordingly.
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After the Colts lose to the Chargers
then what? ;)
(I like both teams equally, but Chargers are redhot right now))
"IF" that happens nothing will change im always going to be a Colts fan :)
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
Even if they pack up and move in the middle of the night?
Not that the Colts would EVER do that.
In Arte I Trust.
Yea seeing as i don't live in indy it wouldn't make a huge diff. to me.
There are other teams that just up and left just not in the middle of the night.
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
When I was 7
my mom just up and left (in the middle of the night)…killed herself at a hotel in Anaheim…gopher poison.
It's Always Somethin'
not this year, bro..
but I was a huge Colt fan back east when Irsay the elder ran off with the Colts and ruined the team. My boy Ted “Mad Stork” Hendricks jumped ship to the Raida’s and so did I…and I’m paying for it now…
and so was this lol
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
it's lean, not tough
the only thing ‘tough’ about the final roster spots this year is the fact that we are so thin compared to the previous decade, none of the options to fill those last roster spots are really appealing.
With that in mind:
- we keep GMJ.
- Wilson has made enough progress, Scios loves catchers, he is young enough, and and getting him some more MLB ABs will help us down the line in a potential trade of any of the three C’s.
- and we’ll take Thompson, but hopefully some youngun’ with more potential will just earn himself a roster spot in ST
I think we’re done with FAs, but there always could be an unexpected trade by the Ninja, especially dumping GMJ, though I wouldn’t be too surprised nor upset if we signed some one like Washburn or Garland for that 5th starter.

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