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I think we all saw this coming.

Vlad in that stadium scares me.

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Agreed.

It seems like what Texas was already good at, got better at. And what Seattle was already good at, got better at. But neither team has made that next step.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces

by Jay Cal on Jan 11, 2010 7:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh balls.

The time is out of joint; oh cursed spite, that ever I was born to set it right.

by chairmanofthebar on Jan 9, 2010 5:10 PM PST reply actions  

+1

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces

by Jay Cal on Jan 11, 2010 7:52 AM PST up reply actions  

+1

"Precious in the sight of the Lord, is the death of His Saints." - Psalm 116:15 Rest In Peace, Nick.

by angels4adam on Jan 13, 2010 2:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Should be interesting

To see if losing Vlad and Figgins to division rivals, and Lackey to a hated playoff rival will come back to haunt the GM formally known as the ninja….

The additions of Rodney and Matsui are looking pretty insignificant right about now….

by mustard_man on Jan 9, 2010 5:16 PM PST reply actions  

Honestly, losing Lackey, Figgins, and especially VLad does not bother me one bit

The offense preformed better when Vlad was not in the lineup, Lackey has been injured and took about half a year to get going the past three years or so, and Figgins just isnt a good leadoff hitter save those two years he actually tried.

Whatever, I honestly think the Angels will still win 90+

I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....

by PhiSlamma on Jan 9, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

So do we

We’ve got 20-25 guys that are out to prove it’s their turn and have been shown how to do it for the last several years.

"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter / Part-Time Nemesis of the HH Reply Function

by Commander_Nate on Jan 9, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed

 Will miss Figgy at the hot corner for sure..
 
Vlad will be missed just off what he does,he didn’t take us to the playoffs last year.but will miss his smile and all.. Dissapointed with all the ppl saying he rejected this offer and demands to plsy OF.. No sourrces just bitter ppl who know it all..
 
We are by far still the best team in the division,but it has gotten better and I think may be as good as AL Least with Doc gone,and bad teams in TO and Baltimore..
 
We now have Cliff lee,Weaver,Harden,Vlad,Bub,Kedry,Hamilton,Felix, etc.. Lots of talent in the west…gonna be a wild yeah !

by raven191 on Jan 11, 2010 2:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Um...Arte and Reagins had been talking to his agents for all of '09

And couldn’t reach a deal. They stated this many times.

I’m not bitter, but it’s not like they didn’t try to bring him back.

"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter / Part-Time Nemesis of the HH Reply Function

by Commander_Nate on Jan 11, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

agreed.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces

by Jay Cal on Jan 11, 2010 7:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah but it is a differnt addition you are missing

Addition of:
Rodney for Oliver
Matsui for Vlad
Wood for Figgins
Kazmir for Lackey
mustard_man for Quinlan

by Rev Halofan on Jan 9, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

the only ones that worry me are

“Kazmir for Lackey”
and
“Wood for Figgins”

posted from a yellow submarine.

by Figgi4life on Jan 9, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I hear what your saying, and it's profound, and deep down I agree:

there is something “that feels a little raw” here, a little deflating. We ‘man-up’ , or buffalo-up perhaps, as you say, and we wave our Halo banners and bring on the Candide-esque best-of-all-worlds optimism to the table, and support our team come hell or high water, but…there is very much a current of deep tredidation flowing through the Halo pond and rippling the red waters. I do feel, however, that Matsui is more than “an ounce of inspiration”, and, if he stays healthy, will provide the kind of juice, elegance, legendary stature and clutchness to the team—if he can stay healthy—that sort of thing like Reggie brought to the team years ago). Wood can be a fan’s “darling.” And perhaps adding Washburn can resonate in several positive ways: to not only eat up innings and be our insurance pitcher, but sort of replace some of the 2002 guys we lost and remind us of that moment and team (and return a “major face” as you say), when it all came together in Zen perfection.

by Raaddad on Jan 9, 2010 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

RELAX TURK

I agree with you on Rodney. Lot of ink to spill on the bullpens 3rd or 4th most important arm.

Equal risks? Reagins saw both medical evaluations and picked one set of sore knees over the other. Maybe Matsui hitting from the left side means a little more here.

We have to break in Wood at 4-A sometime.

Kazmir is younger than Santana, Saunders and Weaver. His best season ever coincided with a year of Mike Butcher as his pitching coach. You can turn that frown upside down Charlie Brown.

The inspiration is in the W’s… it ain’t 1990 in Anaheim.

by Rev Halofan on Jan 10, 2010 1:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Fans got thrown a bone with the 4-year G.A. contract

Don’t recall that turning out to be the wisest $48 million ever spent. Erstad got overpaid long after you could describe him as a plus player.

I’m more upset along the loyalty lines you suggest by the Frankie-for-Fuentes swap, given that K-Rod is still young w/ potential upside, and the money was pretty much equal. But even there, if overpaying Rodney buys us enough cover to get out of paying Fuentes a third year, that starts looking strategically ok, too, especially if it’s true Frankie was a horse’s ass & losing his stuff.

This is officially the Angels M.O. — develop good young talent, let it help you win while you underpay for it, then let someone else overpay for its decline years. Selectively extend young favorites, and selectively buy your own overpriced 30somethings to fill in gaps. It is a bit raw, for both loyal fans and the players. But on balance, it has been a good strategy. Acknowledging that has little to do with Nick Nolte’s underrated buffalo work.

by mattwelch on Jan 10, 2010 2:48 AM PST up reply actions  

one of hte ironies in all this

is that Angel fans have gotten spoiled with a lot of players staying around a LONG time this past decade. The turnover we are going through this offseason is atypical of the Angels of late, but it IS typical of most teams every other season or so. Thus I think the lamentations are not commensurate with how the 2010 team is likely to fare.

by Rev Halofan on Jan 10, 2010 3:24 AM PST up reply actions  

wow

you have so eloquently, yet succinctly stated everything I have been feeling about what this franchise has done since about midway last season. “But the tears shall come, brothers and sisters.” I truly hope you are wrong about that one.

by agent_99 on Jan 10, 2010 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

At some point

Faces have to change. And although Lackey, K-Rod, Vlad, and Figgins had great careers in Anaheim, at some point the leaves change color and fall. And at some point, new leaves will grow. And the face of the franchise has to change. You have to grow your new talent. Kendry Morales, Eric Aybar, Howie Kendrick, Juan Rivera, and Napoli/Matthews are all coming back. Weaver, Saunders, and Santana are coming back.

The entire franchise face hasn’t changed.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces

by Jay Cal on Jan 11, 2010 8:05 AM PST up reply actions  

That would be Erick* and Mathis*

"Precious in the sight of the Lord, is the death of His Saints." - Psalm 116:15 Rest In Peace, Nick.

by angels4adam on Jan 13, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd prefer to refrain from conceding defeat until we're actually, you know, defeated.

There has not been a single pitch thrown in Spring Training, let alone the 2010 season. All of this alarmist behavior is largely unwarranted and, quite frankly, it’s getting old.

Games are won on the field, not by stats, projections and the idle babble printed by eastern sports analysts who know nothing of the AL West other than that it exists. Nor are they won by how many millions of dollars were spent or not spent or by the taunting of ignorant blowhards who are excited because their team got a shiny new toy from a rival.

The fact is that all teams go through a turnover period. It was bound to happen to us because we had a lot of guys coming off of long-term contracts. And you know what, I’d rather have it happen now when we have plenty of guys hitting their prime and some veterans to hold us over.

Figgins and Vlad were great, but part of what made them great was the team they were a part of. The lineup and infield that made Figgins an All-Star still dwells in Anaheim, not Seattle. We have 3 starting pitchers that were All-Stars much more recently than Lackey. Texas, Oakland, and probably even Seattle would gladly take our starting rotation over theirs. So would many other teams. Hell, they’d all probably take our offense too. The teams of the AL West and most of MLB would LOVE to have the Angels’ “problems”.

You can call me a homer or a buffalo or whatever you want, I don’t really care. I tend not to base my opinins based on what other people think of them. I consider my stance a realistic one. The tears and disappointment may come or not. However, this will be revealed in September or October, not now in January.

It’s January 11th and we are the defending 3-Time AL West Champs who just slayed the hated Boston Red Sox in their own sanctuary. We will remain so until someone stands up and proves otherwise. Until then, I suggest that everyone quit cryin’ and act accordingly.

-Your Friendly HH Morale Officer

"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter / Part-Time Nemesis of the HH Reply Function

by Commander_Nate on Jan 11, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

agreed… The Lackey loss is tough,but look at the rotation and the lineup up and down…You all know I love Vlad,but he hasn’t carried the team since 2007, and everyone walks over the mountain at some point..LuCKILY for Vlad,he landed in Texas,best of luck 2 him but I don’t see Texas winning the division ..wildcard maybne ?
I’mpraying Vlad for a .320 25 -75 and actually trhink he can do better if he takes advantage of his RBI situations,which he didnt do last year….

Figgy huge loss,but replaceable,his glove was phenomenal and he was a great leadoff guy,but ya have 2 move on….

Best of luck Angels 2010

by raven191 on Jan 15, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Another way of looking at it:

Rodney for Olliver……….$6MM vs $3.5MM (possibly $5-$6MM in arbitration). I’m sure Fuentes took notice.

Matsui and Abreu for Vlad……….$6MM plus $9MM vs. $15MM.

Wood for Figgins…….$.5MM vs. $9MM (Aybar’s gonna do just fine in lead off while Wood hits 27).

Kazmir and Weaver for Lackey……….$8MM plus ~$3MM vs. $$18MM. (We’ve got enough bodies for the #5 slot).

Sandoval for Quinlan…..$.45MM vs. $1.5MM. (Switch Hitter,versatile, good D).

by wumbug on Jan 10, 2010 1:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Totally agree.

Hope I’m wrong but it feels like this years team might be alot like the underperforming teams of the pre2000’s. Seattle is looking pretty threatening this coming season. Hopefully our young guys step up and are all they’re hyped to be. (That’s you Wood)

Happy Birthday to the ground!

by Monkeyspanked on Jan 9, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Seattle's offense doesn't scare a 5 year old girl.

Their pitching outside the first two isn’t all that spectacular either.

"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter / Part-Time Nemesis of the HH Reply Function

by Commander_Nate on Jan 9, 2010 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Not sure I agree

Suzuki
Figgins
Bradley
Lopez
Griffey
Guitierrez
Kotchman
whoever catches for Seattle
Wilson

That’s a lot of OBP up top, and both Gut & Kotch still have unexplored upide. IF they don’t have injuries (which is admittedly unlikely) then they might score some runs.

by mattwelch on Jan 10, 2010 2:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Seattle won 85 games last year

with the moves they’ve made this winter, it’s a reasonable expectation that their win total will go up – not down – in 2010.

by mustard_man on Jan 10, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCC

K.

That’s mine for January. Hope I won’t need it again this month.

Really, I wanted Vlad back but can see Matsui being better for the Angels in the long run. But I most definitely did not want Vlad on the f—ing Rangers. Dammit Reagins, at least drive up the damn price on him a bit, though that probably wasn’t even possible post-Matsui. Argh. Anyone else could have had him with no real complaint. Really, anyone. Even the Yankees. Even Boston. Just maybe not the A’s. But the Rangers? Really? Dammit.

RIP Nick Adenhart.

"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5

by Clutch on Jan 9, 2010 5:30 PM PST reply actions  

here is the deal

Reagins saw Matsui’s medical report. And he saw Vlad’s. If it had been close I believe he might have gone with Vlad, if only for comfort’s sake.

by Rev Halofan on Jan 9, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, yeah

I’m coming/have come to terms with that. I’m just annoyed he went to the damn Rangers.

RIP Nick Adenhart.

"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5

by Clutch on Jan 9, 2010 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

No matter how foreseeable that was.

RIP Nick Adenhart.

"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5

by Clutch on Jan 9, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

or

whatever his AGE really was.

It's Always Somethin'

by Funke5ive on Jan 10, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Good luck Vladdy.

I hope you hit .350 against the AL, and .050 against us.

1 line siggy line because I was asked nicely. Go Angels! helpfindscottajob@gmail.com

by Slasher52 on Jan 9, 2010 5:33 PM PST reply actions  

He will hit .500 against the Halos this year.

He will go on a hit streak like he had against the Rangers for so many years.

Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009

by boomer1 on Jan 9, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Really?

I’m ready to put cash down against that bet. But, I’ll have to break your legs in advance.

1 line siggy line because I was asked nicely. Go Angels! helpfindscottajob@gmail.com

by Slasher52 on Jan 9, 2010 6:18 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

FORTY FOUR GAMES

That had to hurt.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Jan 11, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Has anyone broken down the money situation lately?

I haven’t been paying close attention, but it feels like a lot of salary has been freed that hasn’t been spent.

by ReggieBullits on Jan 9, 2010 5:49 PM PST reply actions  

Money was freed up.

But there A LOT of arbitration raises coming. Off the top of my head, Weaver, Saunders, Naps, Mathis, Kendrick. I’m sure I’m missing some, but some guys are gonna get nice raises.

Nick would be proud.

by halofan4life on Jan 9, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, arbitration. Thanks.

For a minute there I understood what it must feel like to be a Pirates fan.

by ReggieBullits on Jan 9, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

$111 miIlion is what I've got for the opening day, 25-man roster.

Round numbers. Including arbitration-driven raises for Napoli, Izturis, Saunders, Weaver, Kendrick, Aybar, Mathis and Willits.

‘Course, I’m guessing at the exact arb/raise amounts, but using reasonable precedents for each I’m probably close enough for government work. Doubt I’m off more than a million total for the group. Together, they go from ~$6.4M last year to ~$19M this year if you want to compare/check/argue/whine.

Which ‘bring-ups’ you fill out the last few roster spots with makes no material difference to the final number – they are all right around minimums. Your mileage may vary.

"Sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."

by LAASurfin on Jan 9, 2010 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Vlad will probably put up the

same numbers as he did in Anaheim in 2009….no worries!!

You Better watch out, The Angels are War Machines!

by im4kiss on Jan 9, 2010 5:53 PM PST reply actions  

The Angels know the scouting report on Vlad.

Throw him pitches two feet off the plate outside and he’ll hit a dinky ground out.

"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana

by Chzburger Jones on Jan 9, 2010 5:57 PM PST reply actions  

DEFINITELY...

If anyone knows what pitches to throw to Vlad its Mike Scioscia.

Let's make it "another halo victory" for Rory...

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jan 10, 2010 12:59 AM PST up reply actions  

saundo is our #2 now.

  so will it be the 16-7 Santana? and the lead the league in K’s Kazmir? Or the weak ass 3 and 4 types that they were last season?
   I am pretty sure they can get him to swing and miss too. But can they do it 3 or 4 times?
And do you really feel comfortable with our waiter of a closer pitching to him?

by Wally's World on Jan 10, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

You mean the "weak ass Kazmir" that had a 1.73 ERA for us?

Come on, be real now.

"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter / Part-Time Nemesis of the HH Reply Function

by Commander_Nate on Jan 11, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Cant say I like the direction of the team

Cant say I don’t. I LOVED letting figgy and lackey go. I hope Olive’s golden age is over. The facts are that all those guys were getting older and less valuable. Lackey at 82 million is a joke, if they get 3 full seasons out of that moley fuck i will be surprised. Figgins probably will never sniff the playoffs again, but if he does, I am sure he will promptly shit the bed. Oli, was the man, gonna miss him, but he is a 100. We have a shitload of good picks next year, and we need to pay up and make those picks come to realization in a few years. Also, we have a stellar free agent market, which i am glad we saved up for, in 2011. In the end, all is good.

by bruinbrah on Jan 9, 2010 6:13 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Awesome post

"Precious in the sight of the Lord, is the death of His Saints." - Psalm 116:15 Rest In Peace, Nick.

by angels4adam on Jan 13, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Vlad won't hit as well at Arlington this year

cause hit won’t be facing shitty Texas pitching.

Captain, there are doubt's...

by Match Day 5 on Jan 9, 2010 6:24 PM PST reply actions  

right, what everyone seems to constantly forget.

Texas has never been known for their ACE’s….

Let's make it "another halo victory" for Rory...

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jan 10, 2010 1:00 AM PST up reply actions  

decent pitcher but

he could only be considered an ‘ace’ on a staff like the Rangers.

Captain, there are doubt's...

by Match Day 5 on Jan 10, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

What's the allotment

on “lamentations”?

Makes me feel like I’m in church.

Captain, there are doubt's...

by Match Day 5 on Jan 10, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

deja vu

"Precious in the sight of the Lord, is the death of His Saints." - Psalm 116:15 Rest In Peace, Nick.

by angels4adam on Jan 13, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

What a shitty way for his career to end.

"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter / Part-Time Nemesis of the HH Reply Function

by Commander_Nate on Jan 9, 2010 6:33 PM PST reply actions  

Say that again when he hits 40 HRs in that park and then retires.

RIP Nick Adenhart.

"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5

by Clutch on Jan 9, 2010 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I will because that's not going to happen

He’s not going to be facing terrible Texas pitching from years past. He should have just agreed to whatever Reagins offered him instead of going to Texas for a year and then likely having to call it a career.

"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter / Part-Time Nemesis of the HH Reply Function

by Commander_Nate on Jan 9, 2010 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Duly noted and mark'd.

RIP Nick Adenhart.

"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5

by Clutch on Jan 9, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

.300/.347/.498 in the 2nd half of 2009 for Vlad

His first half of 2009 was ruined by a torn pec. If he’s recovered from his various ailments and the Rangers limit him to DH duty, I wouldn’t be surprised if Vladdy posts .320/.375/.550 in 2010. I hope he does well while the Angels wrap up another AL West title.

by XYZ123 on Jan 9, 2010 6:45 PM PST reply actions  

Good Luck Vlad,

We’ll miss you.

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Jan 9, 2010 6:57 PM PST reply actions  

It will be an interesting season series with Texas!

I see most of my Halo games in Arlington (in-laws live there, don’t need a motel) and have witnessed a few monumental shots out of that band box. Balls rocket out of there during the summer, not like in Anaheim where the denser marine air tends to put reverse thrust on well hit balls. My guess, educated or not, is that Vlad’s slugging percentage will show a significant improvemant over the last couple of years IF he can stay healthy.

by OMAHALO FAN on Jan 9, 2010 7:04 PM PST reply actions  

I would not be surprised if Vlade has a better season than Matsui

after watching Godzilla look a LOT worse limping around the field than Vlade for 3 years, I’m very nervous about this move. GMJ as DH anyone?

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

by Moondoggy on Jan 9, 2010 7:05 PM PST reply actions  

I realize that Vlad had a good post season in 2009.

However, try to visualize each AB during those games, replacing Vlad with Matsui.

I would have to go back to check the box scores, but it seems to me that there were an awful lot of runners left in scoring position that took the wind out of our sails.

Having said that, I’m as sad as anyone that Vlad is gone.

by wumbug on Jan 10, 2010 1:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe

but my recollection is that Godzilla had a pretty crappy ALCS and DS. I admit he turned it on in the WS. Still…

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

by Moondoggy on Jan 10, 2010 3:01 AM PST up reply actions  

just a fear

in my high, we re sign Vlade and he hits 35

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

by Moondoggy on Jan 9, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I hear you...

see my limerick (limerick the last)

by Raaddad on Jan 9, 2010 7:14 PM PST reply actions  

read it

if only

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

by Moondoggy on Jan 9, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I kinda' made my peace with this...

…after we signed Matsui.

OK, I'm finally over losing Tex. Thanks Kendry.

by 10 27 02 on Jan 9, 2010 7:25 PM PST reply actions  

I wish Vlad the best of luck

and I’ll enjoy watching him ground into a double play with the game on the line in Anaheim

by Epic Dean on Jan 9, 2010 7:32 PM PST reply actions  

Just hope there aren't two outs or he'll get the huge hit.

Rest in peace, Rory. When I think of some of the greatest moments my Angels fandom, I hear your voice describing them. Thanks for everything you gave us.

by AlanFalcon on Jan 9, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

This offseason sucks balls.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Jan 9, 2010 8:54 PM PST reply actions  

Far from surprised by Vlad signing with Texas.

Thanks for the memories, it was great while it lasted, I only wish we could’ve gotten that elusive second WS ring while Vlad was here. Although i’m sure Vlad will bounce back and have a solid year, I seem to recall many here, myself included, felt that Vlad wasn’t the same player or hitter that he once was. Losing Vlad to the Rangers sucks, and Matsui may or may not be the DH we want, but he’s the one we have. Truth be told we’ll probably miss Lackey and cousin Oliver more than Vlad. But i’ll still miss him.

YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....

by halofolife on Jan 9, 2010 9:25 PM PST reply actions  

Just in time to go into the Hall as a Ranger.

Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.

by Stirrups on Jan 9, 2010 10:14 PM PST reply actions  

yeah, whatever

man

Let it roll, baby, roll

It's Always Somethin'

by Funke5ive on Jan 9, 2010 10:24 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

hell yeah...rec'd.

Let's make it "another halo victory" for Rory...

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jan 10, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

In that lineup, in that park

Vlad will be the number 4 option at best. He will have a monster year, if he stays healthy. That is a big freaking if. When was the last time he was completely healthy. the guy is an animal, has the best bat speed I’ve ever seen. But like most non-juicers, he is slowing and breaking down as he ages. He will have big days in Texas but he will have a lot of small ones too. I just hope the small ones are against us.

Jerry and Omar assclowns for life

by Ghost of seven in a row on Jan 9, 2010 10:37 PM PST reply actions  

vlad is irreversibly declining.

he can’t run and his power stroke is fading fast he could certainly have a solid season, but the vlad that tore the ballpark a new one no longer exists.

that being said, he could put up matsui-like numbers (with a bit more avg) for home games as a ranger.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart - Always an Angel

by Kernel on Jan 9, 2010 11:02 PM PST reply actions  

Spot the Looney

Your hatred of the man is irrational, as it cannot be based upon facts. Fact: Reagins brought in Torii Hunter, who immediately became the face of the franchise and the locker room leader. Fact: Reagins dealt a slick-fielding singles hitter who plays a power position for one of the best hitters in the game today, in the hope of putting the team over the top. Fact: Reagins signed one Matt Palmer, a castoff from the Giants, who contributed several solid starts that nobody else expected at a point in the season when the team desperately needed it. Fact: Reagins brought in Bobby Abreu at a bargain basement price at a time when most teams didn’t think he had much left. Fact: the team has won the division every year Reagins has been GM.

But we already know how you don’t like being inconvenienced by facts.

by jjackflash on Jan 10, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I think this sucks, along with everything else they have done in this off-season. I think Vlad deserved better than what he got. So long Big Daddy, thank you for everything. I will miss you terribly.

by TSamn15 on Jan 9, 2010 11:06 PM PST reply actions  

According to Zu, I think, the Angels may have offered Vlad a decent deal at season's end...

but he turned it down…
This was discussed in the “tough roster decisions” post (somewhere within its labyrinthian depths), but correct me if I’m wrong.
I’m just saying that it doesn’t appear to be just the Halos throwing dearest Vladdy to the wolves…or Rangers…
(great photo btw)

by Raaddad on Jan 9, 2010 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't hit on her lol

posted from a yellow submarine.

by Figgi4life on Jan 9, 2010 11:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

For the last three years

everyone has been saying that this is the year Vlad will bounce back. The fact is, though, he can no longer stay healthy, and this year it finally caught up to him as his power dropped significantly. Remember how he was supposed to be moving that much better (and therefore he’d have stronger legs) because he got his knee cleaned out last winter? No, Vlad is just about done. His bat has slowed down considerably. His strikeout numbers are way up. He’s not a bad player, but he’s just not going to be that good anymore.

by jjackflash on Jan 9, 2010 11:15 PM PST reply actions  

The only thing that keeps me from going bat-shit crazy

is our infield. Assuming Wood pans out, we’ve got an infield that is incredibly young and incredibly talented, on the rise and going to (God willing) be around for years to come.

Garvey, Lopes, Russell, Cey anyone?

I miss Hudler already.

by Teixeira Who? on Jan 10, 2010 12:41 AM PST reply actions  

Very sad to see him go.

Regardless of whether it’s a smart move or not, Vlad was THE most exciting hitter I have ever had the privilege of watching. He will always be tied with this glorious era of Angels baseball. I’ll miss you Vlad.

No matter what happens from here on, it has been a great season.

by Rally Manatee on Jan 10, 2010 12:48 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

I just cant believe the Vlad era is gone and we never won a ring with him...

Seems weird. Tainted, even. How did we not go all the way with the Impaler? So weird….

Let's make it "another halo victory" for Rory...

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jan 10, 2010 1:01 AM PST reply actions  

we never won a ring with in part because...

he never hit in october until this last postseason. and the fine folks at tbs made sure we never forget it.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart - Always an Angel

by Kernel on Jan 10, 2010 2:04 AM PST reply actions  

The fine folks at TBS

have a special spot reserved for them in baseball hell.

I miss Hudler already.

by Teixeira Who? on Jan 10, 2010 5:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Sad but true.

Captain, there are doubt's...

by Match Day 5 on Jan 10, 2010 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

He never had enough protection. You can't blame him for teamwide weakness.

  The strategy of the other teams was simple. Don’t give him anything to hit. wa la. Notice that in the last TWO postseasons he hit great. Whent he finally had protection (tex and Hunter), then (K-Mo and Hunter)

by Wally's World on Jan 10, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Protection?

I’m sure he could afford to buy his own condom factory.

Oh, you meant lineup protection? Yeah, sorry: that entire concept is a myth.

by jjackflash on Jan 10, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

How is that concept a myth?

"Precious in the sight of the Lord, is the death of His Saints." - Psalm 116:15 Rest In Peace, Nick.

by angels4adam on Jan 13, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

thats a load of shit and you know it...

NO TEAM should or can rely on ONE player…what a bullshit statement.

Let's make it "another halo victory" for Rory...

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jan 10, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

It's another sad day in Halo Nation

On the other hand it will be funny the first time Vlad rolls into a double play against us

by UCIHalo on Jan 10, 2010 8:26 AM PST reply actions  

yes, indeed.

i can see it now. bases jammed. one out. first pitch to vlad….weak grounder, double-play and Weaver is out of the inning.

Wont be missing that…

Let's make it "another halo victory" for Rory...

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jan 10, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

thank you.

“Nation” implies that the whole country is a fan of our team, which would make 90% of us band-wagoners. Just like Raider Nation, Red Sox Nation, and soon to be Laker Nation.

"Precious in the sight of the Lord, is the death of His Saints." - Psalm 116:15 Rest In Peace, Nick.

by angels4adam on Jan 13, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Oops... '69.

Angels fan since ’67.

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Jan 13, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course.

My dad is an avid Lakers fan, and I have no problem with that. My main issue is with my generation of Lakers fans who have known nothing but winning, and therefore walk around with this Holier-Than-Thou attitude, disrespecting everyone they come in contact with. And yes, they are all over the country.

"Precious in the sight of the Lord, is the death of His Saints." - Psalm 116:15 Rest In Peace, Nick.

by angels4adam on Jan 14, 2010 12:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes,

but arguably worse.

"Precious in the sight of the Lord, is the death of His Saints." - Psalm 116:15 Rest In Peace, Nick.

by angels4adam on Jan 15, 2010 1:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Even though I convinced myself when we signed Matsui

that he was the better option numberswise, I’m still gonna miss Vlad.

Here’s hoping he goes into the hall with an A on his hat.

by ~MMP~ on Jan 10, 2010 9:04 AM PST reply actions  

well i doubt he'll go in as an Expo (considering they don't exist anymore).

  the question is can he have several more good seasons. Tony Reagins evidently doesn’t think so.

by Wally's World on Jan 10, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Why, fuck Tony?

You prefer Bill Stoneman and the killer deal he gave GMJjr? Or maybe you miss Bill Bavasi? Give me a break dude….

Let's make it "another halo victory" for Rory...

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jan 10, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

why blow your F-bomb on Reagins? Because he has eyes that can see that Vlad is only a shell of his former self? Oh yeah, I forgot, you’re one of the ones who think the Angels should outspend every other team and keep all of their players no matter how old, injured or washed up they are…and my guess is you’ll be the first to start whining when they double the beer prices to pay for it.

by jjackflash on Jan 10, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

You can put me in agreement with Reagins

Guerrero will light it up every now and then, provide some evening sports reel highlights on occasion, but he isn’t the guy we signed in 2004; he isn’t even the guy who showed up for Spring Training in 2008 and let it be known he was in fact a year older than he had pretended to be. His slugging percentage has tailed off every single season since 2004 and last season was the first that he didn’t carry the team for a stretch and make sure the Angels made it to the finish line.

I am sure he will hit a lot of singles and a few doubles in Arlington, and he’ll hit the occasional HR. But the days of his hitting 30 HR and driving in 100+ RBI would seem to be long gone, and considering the Angels needed a DH and not a RF, Matsui would be the better bet to produce from the DH slot.

BTW, Guerrero could go into the HoF as an Expo, just as Andre Dawson could. The problem is, there is no Expos team to hold a big “Andre Dawson Day” ceremony before a game, and having the Nationals do it makes little sense. But if Dawson (or Guerrero) has more warm fuzzies about their time in the Great White North than in the US, either could elect to enter as an Expo.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Jan 10, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Our dear friend

I know nothing of Vladimir Guerrero, sans what I see on television and read in magazines. Vlad will have a special place in my heart and I will have found memories of him. I’ll never trash my jersey, bobble head or my Vlad Faced ball cap.

I always wanted the Angels to do it for Vlad. And hoped this would be the year. I knew last year that this would be it for Vlad. 15MM is too much for a guy who looks like Frankenstein running the bases. I’m glad Vlad signed with the Rangers. I hope he tears the cover off the ball in the Lone Star state. I hope Vlad crushes the ball. And I hope the Rangers get real close with the Wild Card this year.

And whenever Vlad becomes a HOF candidate, he goes in on the first ballot. And I hope that its with a Red Halo on his head.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

I blog about the Angels at The Diamond Aces

by Jay Cal on Jan 11, 2010 8:48 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

I am sad to see Vlad go, especially to a division rival.

I think he will finish with 0.290 25HR 100RBI.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Jan 11, 2010 4:51 PM PST reply actions  

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