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I guess there are 2 different Comeback POY awards then?

I know that Liriano and Hudson won one a few weeks ago, but I think that one was voted on by writers.

by ~MMP~ on Oct 25, 2010 3:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Not to mention how much better Vlad looked in a Rangers lineup where you had good hitters

up and down the roster. Congrats to Vlad for having something to prove and delivering on it even though it was for another team.

Peter Bourjos is faster than anyone on your team.

by 44FAN on Oct 25, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vlad had

Torii and Morales hitting around him last season. not that big of a difference between Hamilton and Cruz if you ask me.

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by 2pintsofbooze on Oct 25, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hamilton vs. Hunter

BIG DIFFERENCE

"Don't turn the channel, ... no matter what the score is." -David Eckstein

by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 27, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Remember

He was still our best hitter during the 2009 postseason run. Angels management just gave up on him.

Plus, I think he was demanding a 2-year deal from us.

by Sethy on Oct 25, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know that this sentiment isn't popular,

But this is exactly how I feel. I grew tired of Vlad not being in shape, and his half-assed rehabs, and unless i’m mistaken(which I may be) he wanted to play RF still despite his lack of mobility, with a multi-year deal. So yeah, maybe I am bitter, but it’s really hard for me to be overly joyed for his CPOY.

YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....

by halofolife on Oct 25, 2010 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually think the sentiment is *very* popular.

I think it’s bullshit, personally.

Vlad spent 66 days on the disabled list in 2009 — he tore a pec, strained a hammy, and tweaked his knee. Of course his numbers were going to be down on the season.

The idea that a torn pectoral is due to willful laziness and his fucked-up knees are due to a lack of conditioning is absurd retrospective witchhunting. Vlad was in a contract year — there were zero assumptions for him of an extension. He didn’t willfully sabotage himself.

It was the only bad year in his five year contract for us. To get one bad half-season from a five year contract is remarkably lucky. Vlad delivered for us on many occasions.

He came back healthy in 2010 and delivered more or less the year he gave us in 2008. Why is that surprising, given he was in good health after a shitty year?

I just find it weird that people would rather pimp front office managers and tear down one of the Angels’ great players than just put it down to what it was: a decision that didn’t pay off like we hoped it would.

by Turks Teeth on Oct 25, 2010 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

Warning: The message above may or may not contain sarcasm. Read and interpret at your own risk.

by snowhor on Oct 25, 2010 8:46 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

yea

I bet he would have sucked had he resigned w. Us!

by wheres_bourjos_at on Oct 25, 2010 3:17 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Not to mention how much better Vlad looked in a Rangers lineup where you had good hitters

up and down the roster. Congrats to Vlad for having something to prove and delivering on it even though it was for another team.

Peter Bourjos is faster than anyone on your team.

by 44FAN on Oct 25, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

SBN reply fail

Peter Bourjos is faster than anyone on your team.

by 44FAN on Oct 25, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

mixed feelings

I still love Vlad but it’s tough to see this all happen with a rival. Feels like he could be 4 wins from entering the HOF with a blue hat :(

by GoHalosGo on Oct 25, 2010 3:38 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm ok with it

after all, I’d rather him play for the Rangers than the Yanks or BoSox. could you imagine him being the DH for the Yanks and winning a WS title? that would be awful.

although that first game back in Angel Stadium where he hit the GS really bummed me out…but I’ve moved past it. for now.

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by 2pintsofbooze on Oct 25, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

This news will give Dono Romantico a legitimate reason to run up and down his street

naked and yelling about how great Vlad is.

Peter Bourjos is faster than anyone on your team.

by 44FAN on Oct 25, 2010 3:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't know why.

Except for 2009, this (2010) was the worst year of his professional career. Setting aside 2009 as an anomaly because it was compounded by injury, he is still tailing downward from his 2006 season.

Dono may have spent the past year lamenting the loss of Vlad, model year 2004, but the rest of us had been lamenting the loss of that guy for years and had long since come to our senses.

"Wastin away again in Minor-Leaguer-Ville..."

by Stirrups on Oct 25, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can haz Angel Hall of Famer?

Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.

by Commander_Nate on Oct 25, 2010 4:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Comparison using BA/OBP/SLG and WAR

Player A
2009: .265/.304/.379 2.5 WAR (FanGraphs)
2010: .321/.365/.553 7.1 WAR

Player B
2009: .295/.334/.460 0.8 WAR (FanGraphs)
2010: .300/.345/.496 2.6 WAR

Player A is Adrian Beltre. Player B is Vlad.
As far as comebacks go, Beltre had a much bigger rebound than Vlad.

by Fan Since 1981 on Oct 25, 2010 6:37 PM PDT reply actions  

and really

if you put Player B in a real park and not Arlington, he probably would’ve duplicated his 2009 season.

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Oct 25, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vlad on the road

2009: .317/.363/.515
2010: .284/.336/.461

Arlington did indeed help elevate his overall stats. Vlad’s road numbers declined in 2010.

B-Ref source

by Fan Since 1981 on Oct 25, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

And most of those impressive road stats in 2009 were from Texas...

…and Toronto.

Arlington: 440/.500/.640
Rogers Center: 407/.429/.556

It was the one reason I feared the Angels not re-signing Vlad last offseason — because I figured his destination was Arlington, and I knew that his stats there weren’t simply a fluke. He just fits that park.

There are parks for certain players — I think Hunter fits Anaheim well, for example, and his stats have shown that. Vlad suits Arlington well — give the Rangers credit for understanding that.

by Turks Teeth on Oct 25, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

if vlad wins a WS with Texas does he go in Hall of Fame as a Ranger?

"Uhh yeah, GOLD might get you Jonas Brothers tickets. BLACK will have all three of them sucking your d***." Pat Anderson Assistant to the Assistant GM of Tampa

by DAD OF VLAD on Oct 25, 2010 7:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Nah

5 Playoff trips in Angels uniform (most of his career)
4 All-Star Games in Angels uniform (tied with Expos)
4 Silver Slugger Awards in Angels uniform (most of his career)
1 MVP Award in Angels uniform (only one in his career)

He became a star in Montreal and that franchise still couldn’t thrive. He came to the Angels and was part of dynasty that spanned most of the last decade.

Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.

by Commander_Nate on Oct 25, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

the only way I could see it happening

would be if Vladdy went apeshit in the WS and almost single-handedly won the WS for them. and that ain’t gonna happen.

although, if he puts in another 3 or 4 years and the Rangers keep winning the West and stay successful in the PS, anything could happen.

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by 2pintsofbooze on Oct 25, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

good

thats what I was trying to say, just used too many words

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by 2pintsofbooze on Oct 26, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

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